Ralph [Nader] has an absolutely fascinating talk with Harvard Business School professor, Shoshana Zuboff, about how Google, Facebook and other digital companies make money by watching every move you make, and how it can be stopped.
One-hour audio at this link: http://ralphnaderradiohour.libsyn.com/the-age-of-surveillance-capitalism
Here's another interview, this time with Harry Shearer. 53 minutes, beginning at minute 4, at this link: https://harryshearer.com/le-shows/june-02-2019/