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Title: Was James Forrestal ASSASSINATED by Zionists?
Post by: Torquemada on January 03, 2009, 05:45:29 PM
The evidence seems to say yes. He opposed the creation of the criminal Zionist state, he was being watched and stalked by Zionist spies.


(http://www.islam-2012-newworldorder.com/fr/1947/James%20Forrestal.jpg)


http://judicial-inc.biz/1.0.19james_vin ... restal.htm (http://judicial-inc.biz/1.0.19james_vincent_forrestal.htm)
Title: Re: Was James Forrestal ASSASSINATED by Zionists?
Post by: rmstock on May 19, 2009, 01:36:21 PM
Certainly looks that way. Thanks for the judicial inc link.
Judicial Inc. claims that the Forrestal Diaries were confiscated by
Truman, but Walter Millis has published these through The Viking Press, New York, 1951
Here's my take on the story :

The National Security Agency (NSA)
http://crashrecovery.org/forrestal/ (http://crashrecovery.org/forrestal/)

James Forrestal, the 1st US Secretary of Defense
http://crashrecovery.org/forrestal/#springmeier (http://crashrecovery.org/forrestal/#springmeier)

Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2008 08:23:24 +0200 (CEST)
From: "Robert M. Stockmann"
To: http://conspiracycentral.net:6969/ (http://conspiracycentral.net:6969/) .

Inside is very interesting material. The chapter on Richard Nixon is
mind-blowing. The supposed hoax of MJ12 aka Majestic 12 is proven by
Springmeier to be very very real. But here comes the real kicker, on
page 542 Springmeier presents a Chart titled :

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(http://crashrecovery.org/forrestal/BASIC_U.S._POLICY_PROCESS-Fritz-Springmeier-s.jpg)

Apparently Springmeier has traced back todays Sanhedrin as the
top chief of the Bilderbergers :

page 539 :

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Also interesting is Springmeiers view on Catholicism, read
Chapter 2.2 CAPTURING THE CATHOLIC CHURCH  (page 381) in its entirety.
And Chapter 2.13 The Second Tower of Babel (page 538) in its entirety.

A quote from page 562

Forrestal."
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When searching for Forrestal a whole new Chapter is opened up, which
is actually the prelude for how the NSA came about :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armed_Forc ... ity_Agency (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armed_Forces_Security_Agency)

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Two days later James Vincent Forrestal, Secretary of the Navy commits
'suicide' :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Forrestal (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Forrestal)

James Vincent Forrestal (February 15, 1892  May 22, 1949) was a
   Secretary of the Navy and the first United States Secretary of
   Defense
. Forrestal's death resulted from a fall out of a Bethesda
   Naval Hospital window which has led to speculation and much
   controversy.

   Forrestal is alleged to be an original member of a group formed in
   1947 with the purported code name of Majestic 12.

   Forrestal himself maintained that he was being tracked and bugged
   by Zionist operatives. As Forrestal biographer Arnold Rogow puts it:

"...Forrestal, during his last months in office, harbored a
      conviction that he was under day-and-night surveillance by
      Zionist agents; and when he resigned as Secretary of Defense in
      March, 1949, he was convinced that his resignation was not
      unrelated to pressures brought to bear on the Administration by
      American Jewish organizations."

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   Arnold Rogow, James Forrestal, A Study of Personality, Politics,
   and Policy, p.181
 
   Rogow footnotes this passage, noting:

"While those beliefs reflect the fact that Forrestal was a very
      ill man in March 1949, it is entirely possible that he was
      'shadowed' by Zionist agents in 1947 and 1948. A close associate
      of his at the time recalls that at the height of the Palestine
      controversy, his (the associate's) official limousine was
      followed to and from his office by a blue sedan containing two
      men. When the police were notified and the sedan apprehended, it
      was discovered that the two men were photographers employed by a
      Zionist organization. They explained to the police that they had
      hoped to obtain photographs of the limousine's occupant entering
      or leaving an Arab embassy in order to demonstrate that the
      official involved was in close contact with Arab
      representatives."

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   Arnold Rogow, James Forrestal, A Study of Personality, Politics,
   and Policy, p.181

   New light was shed on Forrestal's concerns in March 2006 when The
   Times of London, referencing newly declassified documents, revealed
   that a serious attempt by Menachem Begin's Irgun Gang to
   assassinate Britain's anti-Zionist counterpart to Forrestal,
   Foreign Secretary Ernest Bevin, had been thwarted by British
   intelligence in 1946. Forrestal had been the most conspicuous and
   forceful anti-Zionist in the Truman administration."
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From "The Iron Curtain over America" [2] page 24 :

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So Springmeier inside "Be Wise as Serpents" surely knows how to put the
reader into the right direction where to search for truth.

When glancing across the pdf one notices how different letters and
fonts are used, which made me wonder whether a nasty 'Phelps' job has
been applied to this PDF edition. As "Be Wise as Serpents" has had a
very limited readership, I even seriously doubted if there ever was a
proper print edition at all!

Note that not long after this SPECIAL PRE-PUBLICATION EDITION (for
private circulation only ......... ) Springmeier got in serious
trouble. The book is highly documented with numerous footnotes and
makes it worth a decent read. It's certainly not that wacko PDF job
like "Vatican Assassins" by Eric Phelps, where footnotes point to even
more questionable sources.

Best Regards,

Robert
--
Robert M. Stockmann - RHCE
Network Engineer - UNIX/Linux Specialist
crashrecovery.org  http://crashrecovery.org/forrestal/BeWiseAsSerpents.pdf (http://crashrecovery.org/forrestal/BeWiseAsSerpents.pdf)
 
[2] "The Iron Curtain Over America" By John Beaty
 First Printing, December, 1951 Eleventh Printing April 1954
 http://www.iamthewitness.com/books/John ... merica.pdf (http://www.iamthewitness.com/books/John.Beaty/Iron.Curtain.Over.America.pdf)
 http://crashrecovery.org/forrestal/Iron ... merica.pdf (http://crashrecovery.org/forrestal/Iron.Curtain.Over.America.pdf)
 
[3] Intelligence and National Security: A Reference Handbook
 (Contemporary Military, Strategic, and Security Issues)
 by J. Ransom Clark
 Hardcover: 208 pages
 Publisher: Praeger Security International Academic Cloth (August 30, 2007)
 Language: English
 ISBN-10: 0275992985
 ISBN-13: 978-0275992989
 http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0275992985 (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0275992985)
page14.png (http://crashrecovery.org/forrestal/page14.png),
page15.png (http://crashrecovery.org/forrestal/page15.png),
page16.png (http://crashrecovery.org/forrestal/page16-2.png),
page17.png (http://crashrecovery.org/forrestal/page17.png),
page18.png (http://crashrecovery.org/forrestal/page18.png),
page19.png (http://crashrecovery.org/forrestal/page19.png)

Majesty 12 (MJ-12)

Fritz Springmeier mentions MJ-12 or Majesty 12 frequently inside
his book "Be Wise as Serpents". He presents proof that MJ-12 most
certainly existed, maybe even today. When a lot of reseachers
began to touch upon MJ-12, secret service agencies began to put out
a lot of disinformation stories around MJ-12, most all of these
hooking MJ-12 up to some sort of secret UFO team. Well MJ-12 is
very real, but none of its members ever saw or wrote about UFO's
inside official MJ-12 paperwork. To understand the controversy one
needs to know the following :

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page 64 :

Jason Society - A branch of the Order of the Quest, this secret
                   group is extremely powerful in the United States.
   Some of its men sit on MJ-12, the body that rules the United States
   for the New World Order.
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page 104 :

level 3- Majesty 12, this is the Inner group that directs the U.S.  
            Other major western nations have an equivalent group of
   rulers. MJ-12 consists of:

   6 members of the executive committee of the JASON Group which is a
     group of intelligent men that began with the Manhattan project.

   6 members of the executive committee of the Council of Foreign
     Relations (CFR)- these men are known as "the wise men", they are
     also all members of the Jason Society, which is a branch of the
     Masonic Order of the Quest.

   6 other key people-heads of the FBI, CIA, etc. usually also Masons
     and CFR people.

   (Majesty 12 has been variously named by those in the U.S.  
    government in the know as 5412 Committee or Special Group
    (Eisenhower & Kennedy Admin.), 303 Committee (Johnson Admin.),
    40 Committee (Nixon, Ford, & Carter Admin.), PI-40 (Reagon Admin.).
    It has been seen in some intelligence messages as MAJIC.)
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page 543 :

DOCUMENTATION WITH EXPLANATIONS CONCERNING MJ-12

   My own secret sources of information indicate two items:

   a.  that the highest levels of Satanism, commonly known as the
       Illuminati, control the CFR and other top-level decision making
       groups in the U.S. government.

   b.  that the highest levels of Satanism have on-going direct contact
       with the aliens (actually demons) and work with them.

   c.  that a group of men commonly known as Majesty 12 or MJ-12 does
       indeed exist, and they direct the United States, and are aware
       of ongoing work with the "aliens".

   From this limited confidential information, I have proceeded to try
   to gleen more information to pad out my picture and hopefully the
   reader's too of what is happening. Further information on MJ-12 has
   come from a number of sources. The following documents pertaining
   to MJ-12 are included for the reader.

   DOCUMENT 1. Federal Register pages which are called "Presidential
               Findings" and are available to House and Senate Intelligence
   Committees. The first set of pages are Executive Order 10700 by
   President Eisenhower, Further Providing for the Operations
   Coordinating Board, February 27, 1957.
      The story behind these Federal Register pages are as follows:
   Nelson Rockefeller, member of the Illuminati, and Dwight Eisenhower
   began planning in 1953 for the creation of a secret governing
   committee from 13 to 19 men to rule the United States in
   cooperation with the aliens (demons).  Some type of authority had
   to be given the group from the executive branch and some type of
   cover had to be given it also. The secret Executive Memorandum NSC
   5510 set up a permanent Majority 12 committee. Soon afterwards in
   Mar. 1955, NSC 5412/1 set up the cover story-a group which had
   Nelson Rockefeller at its top. The cover group was entitled "the
   Policy Coordinating Group." As the PCG or Policy Coordinating Group
   actually was a front for a real group that did and still does rule
   the United States, people in government correctly realized its
   enormous power and have refered to this secret ruling body in
   different ways over the years.
      In 1974 Thomas Ross and and David Wise came out with the book The
   Invisible Government by Random House. Because this book revealed
   this group which was called "the Special Group" or "54/12" the name
   of the group was changed. Marchetti pointed out in his book CIA and
   The Cult of Intelligence that the Special Group changes its name
   each time its cover name is revealed to the public. The following
   are some of the names it has gone by:

   a. Special Study Group
   b. Wise Men
   c. Operations Coordinating Board (OCB)
   d. 5412 Committee - Eisenhower & Kennedy Administration
   e. 303 Committee - Johnson Administration
   f. 40 Committee - Nixon, Ford, Carter Administrations
   g. PI-40 - Reagon Administration
   h. The Unholy 13 - the name Brig. Gen. Exon claims to have used
   i.  Majesty 12, Majority 12, (its level of secrecy is labelled
       MAJIC)

   DOCUMENT 2. Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara's testimony to
               the Jackson Subcommittee about policy-making at the
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page 544 :

DOCUMENT 3. JK 516 A5- Cover page of Book V, and page 100 (which
               was Appendix C) show that the Study Group did formulate
   policy.

   DOCUMENT 4. USAF Office of Special Investigations document
               describing the analysis of film taken near the AFB of
   Kirtland in 1980 which refers to in paragraph 2

      "...OFFICIAL US GOVERNMENT POLICY AND RESULTS OF PROJECT
       AQUARIUS IS STILL CLASSIFIED TOP SECRET WITH NO DISSEMINATION
       OUTSIDE OFFICIAL INTELLIGENCE CHANNELS AND WITH RESTRICTED
       ACCESS TO "MJ TWELVE".

 
   SPECAT (special category messages) sent from MAJESTY CONTROL
   (evidently MJ-12) have been seen by intelligence officers with high
   clearances. Such SPECAT have been called MAJESTY ADVISORY. At other
   times a Majesty 12's orders have been called Majority 12
   Directives.  Intelligence people with Q clearance and Presidential
   approval were classified "MAJESTIC" on Project REDLIGHT. Extremely
   sensitive material is classified MAJIC. It appears from the
   numerous sources that the secret MJ-12 governing group uses MJ in
   connection with the words MAJIC, MAJORITY, and MAJESTIC.
   
   FALSE DOCUMENT. The pages of what is called the "Briefing Document:
           Operation Majestic 12 Prepared For President-Elect Dwight D.
   Eisenhower" are a CIA/NSC attempt to muddy the waters with a fake
   document. Because the public began to learn some real facts about
   MJ-12, a special operation called MAJESTIC to decieve the public
   was carried out by three intelligence men, Stanton Friedman,
   William Moore, and Jaime Shandera. Supposedly Jaime Shandera got
   some 35mm film and realized what he had after he developed it. It
   was labelled a briefing document for President-elect Eisenhower
   concerning MJ-12. The document has big errors in it, the dating is
   not written as per how it was done then, the Rosewell Army Air
   Field and Walker Air Force Base are misnamed Rosewell Army Air Base
   and Walker Field. The dating and the name of the base would have
   had to have been done correctly under real circumstances. Much
   information has come out exposing these three men who claim to have
   come upon this document as intelligence men. They and others have
   been actively trying to muddy the waters.

      Although a Study Group had been established even four years
   before the MJ-12 Study Group it appears it wasn't as all
   encompassing as the one established by Rockefeller in 1954. This
   prior Study Group (called ECG- Executive Coordination Group) can be
   identified in the National Security Council directive identifiable
   as the top secret annex to NSC-4 called NSC-4A. Later NSC-10/1 and
   NSC-10/2 superseded NSC-4 and NSC-4A and expanded the work of the
   Study Group. It appears the ECG was somewhat ad hoc, and that the
   people making up the group varied from meeting to meeting, and
   problem to problem, whereas MJ-12 is a fixed group. After Pres.
   John Kennedy tried to abolish MJ-12 as the control center, the
   Study Group retained its power but became acephalous.
      When the men of MJ-12 (the 5412 committee) began meeting, it was
   neccessary that extreme secrecy be established for it is hard to
   hide so many important men getting together. In 1954, the Quantico
   Marine Base was used. Later meetings were held at the Marine Base
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page 545 :

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page 661 :

THE PLANNED (MOCK) ALIEN INVASION

   Something big is happening. The whole subject of UFOs leaves the
   objective person bewildered. There are several key points that are
   verified beyond doubt on the subject.

   1.  There has been intensive interest by the movie industry about
       extraterrestrials, science fiction scenarios about their coming
       to earth. There have been lots of secret interest on the part of
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page 662 :

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page 676 :

FOR FURTHER STUDY FOR THE READER:

   Who's Running America? by Thomas R. Dye and Florida State
   University. This book was not the creation of some foundation
   grant, but developed out of a graduate seminar at FSU. This is one
   of the most exceptionally well-written well-researched books to
   instruct the public about the elite that controls their lives.
   Highly recommended for someone who wants more nitty-gritty details
   than this book provides. The book is a systematic look at the
   various areas of power. Don't expect any secrets to be revealed,
   the book's contents are not extremely controversial. Be Wise As
   Serpents goes beyond Who's Running America and reveals the secret
   groups such MJ-12 and the policy committee of the Bilderbergers who
   really make the decisions.
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Robert
--
Robert M. Stockmann - RHCE
Network Engineer - UNIX/Linux Specialist
crashrecovery.org  stock@stokkie.net
Title: Re: Was James Forrestal ASSASSINATED by Zionists?
Post by: scorpio on July 12, 2009, 12:09:21 AM
Quote from: "Torquemada"The evidence seems to say yes. He opposed the creation of the criminal Zionist state, he was being watched and stalked by Zionist spies.


(http://www.islam-2012-newworldorder.com/fr/1947/James%20Forrestal.jpg)


Just got ahold of Forrestal's book The Forrestal Diaries Haven't read the whole thing yet but there are supposed to be some rather revealing things about the zionist control of the US.

Just looking at his picture, he doesn't look the kind of guy to commit suicide, especially by jumping out of a window!...That's just my observation.I guess it's just a coincidence that he understood and disliked the zionist/Isreali influence on the US and just happened to end up dead in a very suspicious manner. :x   :shock:

The newspaper headline you show is also very revealing. Don't forget the book Germany Must Perish by Theodore Kaufman, Published 5 months before America entered WWII in 1941. Want a little taste of real Jewish Racism? Then read this book. Yikes! :twisted:  :twisted:  :twisted:
Gives an interesting insight as to who actually started WWII
Without WWII & the Holohoax, there would be no Israel....

Scorpio11