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Title: Nazism
Post by: MikeWB on July 03, 2009, 11:05:06 PM
Who here is a supporter of Neo-Nazis, Nazism and is a sympathizer of Hitler? Why do you support them?
Title: Re: Nazism
Post by: Yo Mama on July 03, 2009, 11:18:12 PM
Who here is a supporter of Cultural Marxism and the Jewish anti-Western agenda?  Why do you support these ideas?
Title: Re: Nazism
Post by: CrackSmokeRepublican on July 03, 2009, 11:20:50 PM
This gives a blueprint against Cultural Marxism:


Read pages 398-404 of this booK:

http://www.amazon.com/Coming-Third-Reic ... 1594200041 (http://www.amazon.com/Coming-Third-Reich-Richard-Evans/dp/1594200041)


QuoteEditorial Reviews
From Publishers Weekly
On March 30, 1933, two months after Hitler achieved power, Paul Nikolaus, a Berlin cabaret comedian, wrote disconsolately, "For once, no joke. I am taking my own life.... nfortunately I have fallen in love with my Fatherland. I cannot live in these times." How Germans could remain in love with their fatherland under Nazism and even contribute willingly to its horrific extremism is the subject of Cambridge historian Evans's gripping if overwhelmingly detailed study, the first of three projected volumes. Readers watch a great and historic culture grow grotesquely warped from within, until, in 1933, a dictatorial state was imposed upon the ruins of the Weimar republic. A host of shrill demagogues had, in the preceding decades, become missionaries to an uneasy coalition of the discontented, eager to subvert Germany's democratic institutions. This account contrasts with oversimplified diagnoses of how Nazism succeeded in taking possession of the German psyche. Evans asserts that Hitler's manipulative charisma required massive dissatisfaction and resentment available to be exploited. Nazism found convenient scapegoats in historic anti-Semitism, the shame of an imposed peace after WWI and the weakness of an unstable government alien to the disciplined German past. Although there have been significant recent studies of Hitler and his regime, like Ian Kershaw's brilliant two volumes, Evans (In Hitler's Shadow, etc.) broadens the historic perspective to demythologize how morbidly fertile the years before WWI were as an incubator for Hitler. 31 illus., 18 maps.
Copyright © Reed Business Information, a division of Reed Elsevier Inc. All rights reserved.

From The Washington Post
There is a certain way of writing about German history, and especially about Nazism, that is characteristically British. Soon after the demise of Adolf Hitler's "one-thousand-year Reich," such historians as A.J.P. Taylor, John Wheeler-Bennett, Hugh Trevor-Roper and Alan Bullock wrote influential accounts of the course of German history, the nemesis of Prussian militarism and the nature of Nazi tyranny. Aimed at scholars and the general public, these often elegantly written books avoided excessive footnotes, synthesized and generalized complex events and eschewed both high-flown rhetoric and convoluted interpretations.

By perceiving the Third Reich through their own rationalist and empiricist prism, though, British historians gave short shrift to the ideological fanaticism that was an inherent part of Nazism. It was impossible for them to believe that any more than a handful of extremists would have either taken Hitler's rhetoric seriously or willingly perpetrated the crimes he ordered. For some, not even Hitler himself could have meant what he preached. Rather, he was depicted as an especially ruthless but otherwise quite "normal" dictator whose main goal was to seize and hold on to power.

In the intervening decades, numerous studies have added greatly to our understanding of support and opposition to Nazism, the destruction of the Weimar Republic, the function of Hitler as leader of party and state and the role of ideological conviction and indoctrination. Indeed, so much detailed scholarship has been produced that it seemed appropriate to write an updated synthesis that would provide an overview of a regime for which the public's fascination has hardly diminished. Richard Evans, a prolific British social historian of Germany, has applied his considerable energies to this task. The Coming of the Third Reich is the first of a projected three-volume study intended to provide the definitive general history of Nazi Germany for the next generation.

Curiously, the British historian Michael Burleigh did just that four years ago. But his massive study, The Third Reich: A New History, presented Nazism as a political religion that took hold of the German population and manifested itself as a cult of violence and destruction. In contrast, Evans depicts the rise to power of a manipulative, power-greedy and violent political party that exploited the dire circumstances of the time to establish a dictatorship over a nation that never fully embraced Nazi rule and ideology.

The Coming of the Third Reich thus returns to older interpretations of the origins of Hitler's rise. For Evans, Hitler "seems to have regarded the conquest of power as the essence of the Nazi Revolution." While he concedes that "the Nazis not only seized political power, they also seized ideological and cultural power" and notes that their "ideas appealed directly to . . . the German educated elite," Evans has little to say about the Nazis' ideas beyond stating that "what mattered to them above all was race, culture, and ideology."

Though well-written and accessible, the narrative has some notable shortcomings. For example, Evans argues that while the rise of Nazism was not predetermined, its origins can be traced to Bismarck's imperial Germany. But even as he vividly describes the emergence of radical anti-Semitism in the late 19th century, he neglects to analyze the political structure of the empire, whose deficiencies contributed greatly to the failure of democracy in the Weimar Republic.

Similarly, while he rightly stresses the centrality of World War I to the rise of Nazism, Evans devotes very little space to the war itself. Nor does the German revolution of 1918 feature prominently, although it was the specific origin of political extremism in that country and imbued the German bourgeoisie with intense fear of social upheaval, both of which contributed to the Nazis' subsequent success. Finally, Evans has remarkably little to say on the expansion of anti-Semitism in the 1920s and tends to relegate the Nazi Party's rabid anti-Jewish rhetoric and violence to a secondary role.

Most troublesome is the contradiction between the author's central contention that the rise of Nazism was not inevitable and his simultaneous assertion that the republic was doomed from the start. "In writing this book I have tried to remind the reader repeatedly that things could easily have turned out very differently," Evans writes in the introduction -- only to later ask, in analyzing the fall of the Weimar Republic, "Where the law and its administrators were against it, what chance did it have?" He might have avoided this by focusing on the intrigues by the presidential "camarilla," the army, big business and the conservative elites, which eventually led to Hitler's appointment as chancellor. But here, too, the narrative flows too quickly, with the result of making the outcome appear all but unavoidable.

Evans has accomplished his goal of writing a readable account of the origins of the Third Reich from the unification of Germany in 1871 to the establishment of the Nazi regime in 1933. He provides many insights into the political culture of imperial and Weimar Germany, the mentality of the Nazi storm troopers and the impacts of the inflation of the early 1920s and the depression and unemployment of the early 1930s. But the book often skimps precisely on the themes it recognizes as crucial and weaves a plot that contradicts its central thesis. Most important, perhaps, it fails to explain the sense of rapture that seized the rapidly growing numbers of Germans associated with the "movement." Combining worship of the Führer, the nation and the Aryan race with extreme violence, racism and anti-Semitism, the "spirit" that imbued Hitler's followers penetrated far and wide into German society. By 1933 an evil but potent wind was blowing in Germany; within a few years it would wreak destruction throughout Europe.

Reviewed by Omer Bartov
Copyright 2004, The Washington Post Co. All Rights Reserved.


By    Kurt Harding "bon vivant" (Boerne TX) - See all my reviews
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I have read perhaps more than a hundred books on the Third Reich from almost every angle possible. This morning, I finished the Coming of the Third Reich then I read the reviews posted here to see just how different perceptions affect other readers' understanding of the material. After digesting some of the commentary, I wondered if we had read the same book.
This is the first time I've read a book by Richard Evans so I can't compare and contrast with his other work on the same subject. At no point did I detect excessive moralizing or self-congratulatory passages. I would urge those who have not yet read the book to read the preface. Its very important. Evans explains that he is breaking no new ground but that this book is primarily for the edification of those who know little or nothing about Hitler or the Third Reich. It is an overview with different angles than those of Shirer, Kershaw, and Burleigh and that is part of what makes this book so useful. Rather than dwell on the poverty of Hitler's youth and his anti-Semitism, though Evans does cover these, the focus is on the political, economic and social situation of the ill-fated Weimar Republic and how it became fertile soil for extremism.
Evans has written a coherent, interesting, and fast-paced explanation for the rise of the Nazis to the top of the extremist crop of political fringe groups that got their start following WWI. It is useful to remember that out of the ashes of defeat in the war, myriad extremist groups popped up in Germany like mushrooms in a Mississippi cow pasture after a spring shower.
The Weimar Republic was a fractious cacophony of partisan squabbling. Many Germans rejected its legitimacy and after twelve years of abject political failure despite the constant shuffling of Cabinets, millions were ready for a strong leader to take control and restore German pride and economic clout.
Many party leaders vowed to dismantle the Weimar system should they come to power, but only Hitler and his Nazi Party promised to do so while restoring Germany to its rightful place in the world. People increasingly began to see Hitler as a decisive leader and the Nazis as a youthful, dynamic movement that had the capabilities of fulfilling its promise. The Nazi Party was the first to use technology and science to further its aims and to build support.
Innovations like focus groups that we take for granted today were potent weapons in the Nazi political arsenal then. With the guidance of Goebbels and others, Hitler learned to tailor his speeches to his audience. Where his anti-Semitic harangues were not working, he dropped any talk of the Jews. When he spoke to workers, he spoke against capital. When he spoke to industrialists, he emphasized the party's program for individual initiative and profits for those who earned them.
The book shows that at no time was Hitler's appointment as Reich Chancellor inevitable, that the Nazis were actually seen by many, including some of their own worried leaders, to have already peaked in electoral support and that much of the support they had was soft. It was only a matter of tenacity coupled with luck on Hitler's part and stupid overconfidence on the part of others that got him a shot at running the country to begin with. Of great interest to readers are the electoral maps which show the relative strength of the Nazis around the country in a series of elections. It is interesting to note that one area where the Nazis lacked substantial support was in the south focusing on Munich and southern Bavaria, the birthplace of Naziism.
Evans brings to life the daily street violence from the left and the right that had ordinary people living in fear. Hitler had promised a dictatorship time and again, but no one was more surprised than the mass of the people when that is exactly what he gave them.
I highly recommend this book, even if you already think you know about all there is to know about Hitler and the Third Reich. Trust me. You don't. I sure didn't! And I'm looking forward to learning more in the next volume!
Title: Re: Nazism
Post by: MikeWB on July 03, 2009, 11:22:21 PM
Quote from: "Yo Mama"Who here is a supporter of Cultural Marxism and the Jewish anti-Western agenda?  Why do you support these ideas?


Make a different topic for that other leftist shit, this one discusses Nazism. Stop derailing topics.

PS: Also, don't be a pussy and stop hiding behind semantics. Are you not man enough to admit that you're a white supremacist, nazi, white nation or whatever the label you people use now? If I supported any of the ideologies you've mentioned, I'd be a man enough to admit it.
Title: Re: Nazism
Post by: CrackSmokeRepublican on July 03, 2009, 11:45:00 PM
Remember that who supports a "rightist" movement are those who are suffering most with the most at risk. In Germany, it was not the industrialists or city workers who were locked in "Class conflict". No, Hitler and the Nazis gained support from the farming communities and those alienated with Jewish Modernism.  I can't recommend reading the book enough. Evans gives a very even handed perception on the matter. It could have gone either way depending on a street fight at anytime in the early 1930s. It did not have to turn out the way it did but once the course was set, the Jews definitely were seen as cultural corrupters and they really didn't protest the charge. Hitler and the Nazis were not necessarily blindingly "White" nationalists until the Jews had relegated their "race" to death. Remember that millions of Germans died after the Jew Zionist Naval Blockade in 1919 (like the Jewish Gaza blockade today).  The Germans learned that the "fittest" really do survive and fight to the last man.

The Jews created the Nazi fervor. Always remember that. I'm White Nationalist but not of the "burn'em all" type.  I don't like to see lies accepted as truth - like 9/11.  Funny that the German Americans were the only nationality expected to "lose" their mother tongue since  1914. You know WWI was actually a civil war between Anglo-Saxons-US German-Americans against the Germans of Germany.  Pretty F****ing sad when you look at the percentages in the war. I blame the JEWS and their desire for ZIon. Never forget the Jewish Bolshevik (Neocon) factor... it always deserves a quick White fist to the Jewish Talmudic Face without compassion. They won't know otherwise in fact they probably expect it considering their global "overreach".    

http://www.reasonradionetwork.com/ (http://www.reasonradionetwork.com/)
Title: Re: Nazism
Post by: Yo Mama on July 04, 2009, 02:03:20 AM
Quote from: "MikeWB"PS: Also, don't be a pussy and stop hiding behind semantics. Are you not man enough to admit that you're a white supremacist, nazi, white nation or whatever the label you people use now? If I supported any of the ideologies you've mentioned, I'd be a man enough to admit it.

"White Supremacist"..."Nazi"..."White Nation"...  

I feel like I'm watching some Jewish produced show on TV.  :lol:
Title: Re: Nazism
Post by: Yo Mama on July 04, 2009, 02:07:40 AM
Quote from: "MikeWB"Who here is a supporter of Cultural Marxism and the Jewish anti-Western agenda?  Why do you support these ideas?

Admit that you're a Cultural Marxist.  Of course, you probably don't even know what Cultural Marxism is, but even so.   :roll:
Title: Re: Nazism
Post by: sirbadman on July 04, 2009, 02:08:52 AM
Not sure if this topic should be in the current news section.

Dont think we would have many ashekenazis...ahem.. i mean nazis here.

You cant really take the nazis too seriously. There is a case that Hitler was a stooge for the bankers but betrayed them by issueing non bank war bonds, or something similiar, forget what they were called.

But the nazis had so many jews in their organisation. Even the head of the SS was half jewish, and thats according to a history channel doco which somehow glossed over it.

Plus all the logos and symbols they used, with their eagles etc, it's all just been exported over to USA and you can see all the dodgy logos there eg CIA logo etc etc.

 And the SS had skulls on their uniforms and stuff other similiar stuff on them so people can see they are evil or whatever. It's pretty absurd when you think about it.

Obama is obviously a communist though, of course we know about the jewish origins of communism here at tiu. Obama even has a 1920s soviet commy style logo.

Nazis, neocons, communists, liberals, right wing, left wing, it's all bullshit. There are people who know about the jewish mafia, jewminati, or whatever you want to call them, and there are people that dont. Those who know either work for them, or are scared of them, and the rest that know either try and spread the word out or go into depression.
Title: Re: Nazism
Post by: scorpio on July 04, 2009, 02:12:25 AM
Give me a break!! Who gives a damn about Hitler. Everyone knows he was financed by JEWISH BANKERS!!  Many members of his inner circle WERE JEWISH!! :twisted:  
Remember, without Hitler there would be NO ISRAEL!! Facts are facts!

It has been my experience that the people on TIU are some of the most well informed bloggers on the internet bar none.
Why waste our time on resureccting this Hitler nonsense...
Title: Re: Nazism
Post by: Yo Mama on July 04, 2009, 02:13:35 AM
I see that the "Nazi" boogeyman is still alive and well at TIU.   :roll:
Title: Re: Nazism
Post by: Yo Mama on July 04, 2009, 02:14:46 AM
Actually, the absurd Paytriotard idea that Hitler was "financed" by "Jewish bankers" is taken directly from now thoroughly discredited Jewish Communist propaganda from the 1930's.   :lol:

You'd be surprised at the amount of Paytriotard ideas that are derived from Jewish Communist propaganda from the 1920's-1940's.  But it's not really that surprising, once you realize that the Paytriotard movement is a Jewish front operation.  :roll:
Title: Re: Nazism
Post by: sirbadman on July 04, 2009, 02:33:17 AM
Prove it yomama. got any references/links?
Title: Re: Nazism
Post by: scorpio on July 04, 2009, 03:03:03 AM
Yo Mama...You could be correct. Maybe Hitler was not financed by Jewish Bankers. (would appreciate any links you may have.)
 It doesn't really matter. They used Hitler as a tool and then pulled the plug when he outlived his usefulness. He does make a great boogieman... :o
Remember, the Zionist wanted Palestine after WWI, but they couldn't get it. There was no good reason for it....until the 'holohoax'.... :twisted:
Loved both of your posts on CFR and Bilderberg!!

We don't all have to agree on the details....the conclusions are undeniable....Sure there are a few Shabot Goys and Unlce Toms, but so what! They are never at the top!! :|

MikeWB: Calling each other nazis or neo-nazis is so old....yawn!!!.... :roll:
Title: Re: Nazism
Post by: Tomas O'Crohan on July 04, 2009, 11:24:32 AM
Come on guys, let's stick with the program. The program is how do we survive the final assault on the world by the three percent against the ninety-seven percent, or, failing to survive it, have we at least died while in the process of trying to destroy these would-be "Masters of the Universe" while attempting to dismantle all vestiges of their lying, thieving, murderous, corrupt organizations. That's the program. Everything else is bullshit and a waste everyone's time diverting precious energy needed for the fight to the death against these criminals. I hate all these fucking labels. They're just more bullshit designed to confuse the ignorant. These labels were invented by the criminals. Let's use our own language, not theirs.

Yo Mama: Excellent work on the Bildersuckers and the Council on Foreign Gyrations.
Title: Re: Nazism
Post by: gurdgieff on July 04, 2009, 12:54:05 PM
There is no leftwing and rightwing.Thats a illusion Its Up and down rich man poor man. rich man devides the poor man
in order to have them at each others throats by race or religion.enjoy youreself while you can
rich man.
the rich man interfears in middle east politics and when he doesnt get what he wants he bombs the crap out of it,he the opens the borders to the west ,allowing mideast people to come in as potential terrorist bombers.hoping that they are terrorist bombers.so the jew bastards can polint the fingers and  say "see I told you so the evil muslims are all terrorists !thats whay why we have to defend ourselves and send little 16 yearold idiot kids who just left school ,couldnt get a job so joined the army .and were sent to war With Iraq and afganistan.

First time I learned about the jew was through reading Mein kampf.
Please dont get mixed up with this hitler was a jew and that crap.
hundreds of thousands of People dyed of starvation in germany because of the world jewry boycot of german goods. Hitler was a victim of this.German antisematism did not come from hitler.Hitlers antisemitism came from germanys antisemitism.Wich is as much justified to him then as it is to us now and as it was In the  day of that "very evil man"Edward longshanks who expelled the jew 800 years ago

Why do some muslims Hate us so much I wonder why?
I feel that most muslims are more clued up on this situation than the average white man.
Title: Re: Nazism
Post by: Ognir on July 04, 2009, 01:25:33 PM
I thought this would be a good one for the Personal Thoughts section
Title: Re: Nazism
Post by: maz on July 04, 2009, 04:36:39 PM
Didn't Jewish bankers prop up Hitler and support the Nazis in some ways? What do Nazi supporters and white supremacists have to say about that?
Title: Re: Nazism
Post by: Rockclimber on July 04, 2009, 04:41:45 PM
Ahh fuck the nazi's, more socialist bullshit. I mean what a joke. Sounds like prostink shit all over again.

Socialism=communism=zionism. Give me limited government any day of the week.
Title: Re: Nazism
Post by: CrackSmokeRepublican on July 04, 2009, 05:27:40 PM
QuoteI thought this would be a good one for the Personal Thoughts section

I agree Ognir.

Also, try and get Jim Condit on a show sometime if he is willing to talk. He might know about Martin Bormann's finances and leadership within the Nazi Party and that Bormann turned out to be a Soviet-English agent at the end of the war. He like Hitler came from humble beginnings.

QuoteHitler's Traitor. Martin Bormann and the Defeat of the Reich. By Louis Kilzer. Presidio Press, 2000. 307 Pages. $29.95.

Inside Hitler's High Command. By Geoffrey P. Megargee. University Press of Kansas, 2000. 327 Pages. Reviewed by Colonel Christopher Timmers, U.S. Army, Retired.

As one might expect, Adolf Hitler is the central character in both of these excellent studies. Louis Kilzer painstakingly establishes a convincing case that Martin Bormann, the Fuehrer's top advisor and confidant, was actually a spy working in the service of Russian intelligence. Geoffrey Megargee advances the not implausible theory that the German general staff was of the collection of military intellectuals most of us have commonly accepted. In fact, after reading these two works, one is almost moved to remark, sarcastically, that it was a miracle (and a tribute to the German fighting man) that the Reich lasted as long as it did, especially after Stalingrad.
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m ... _89811401/ (http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0IAV/is_1_91/ai_89811401/)
Title: Re: Nazism
Post by: satya on July 04, 2009, 11:03:11 PM
"White nationailsm", Nazism, or any of these other ridiculous labels ruin the credibility of the anti-Zionist / anti-Jewish crime network movement.  Not only that, it works in their favor because that is what they would like to smear everyone in this movement as.  I am all for cultural pride, but I mean what are we, dogs bred for their genes?  No.
Title: Re: Nazism
Post by: Chargeemquick on July 05, 2009, 09:22:22 PM
Quote from: "satya""White nationailsm", Nazism, or any of these other ridiculous labels ruin the credibility of the anti-Zionist / anti-Jewish crime network movement.  Not only that, it works in their favor because that is what they would like to smear everyone in this movement as.  I am all for cultural pride, but I mean what are we, dogs bred for their genes?  No.
What a sad grey world in which all "dogs" are the same.Human genetic(national) preservation is MORE important than crop or animal breed preservation.
Why is the drive from the globalists to see maximum inter-breeding and national disintegration?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=AU&hl=e ... mHAYjxzLcM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=AU&hl=en-GB&v=SmHAYjxzLcM)
Title: Re: Nazism
Post by: Chargeemquick on July 05, 2009, 09:33:46 PM
Yeah,put me down on the Nazi list Mike.I don`t agree with all the N.S policies,but generally,they got society working together as a voluntary and happy team.Just look out your window in any Western country to see what "liberal" "dumb-o-cracy" does to a people.
Title: Re: Nazism
Post by: THE AQUARIAN 1 on July 06, 2009, 08:53:35 PM
Still can't see the reasoning behind pushing every Jew in the world into a corner and calling them criminals.  Is that not generally what Nazis believe?  That all Jews are culpable for an international conspiracy to create a world government?  

I don't see the point to that.  It's lazy and can't be proven.

Nothing will ever be accomplished unless you STICK TO WHAT YOU CAN PROVE.  Draw your conclusions, but don't build a basis for belief on theories.

If you can prove that there is an "evil gene" within the Jewish bloodline, please show the world.  If not, grow some balls, and prove something.

Yours,

THE AQUARIAN 1
Title: Re: Nazism
Post by: CrackSmokeRepublican on July 06, 2009, 09:00:44 PM
THE AQUARIAN 1 -- How much business do you do with Jews in a day, week, year?

They have a tendency to get all the SH*T they deserve coming at them. I don't need a theory, I know their dumbass nature up close and personal. They don't have the best interests of humanity at heart.
Title: Re: Nazism
Post by: CrackSmokeRepublican on July 06, 2009, 09:23:31 PM
Here Aquarian - grab a weapon and "show your balls" or whatever you got... I don't want to hear anyone whining about the Nazis.
If you are half as brave - launch in.
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Biden: Israel has right to attack Iran
By: JTA on: 05.07.2009 [14:18] (673 reads)

http://www.iraq-war.ru/article/201056 (http://www.iraq-war.ru/article/201056)
QuoteGood Day you zioheaded morons
by MmArRgDdOnN on 06.07.2009 [14:03]    
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You are definately in for another Bad Day.

@Richard
by verve on 06.07.2009 [16:11]    
ever meet a zioist; obnoxious is far too polite, really. Evil must be exposed at every turn and geddy provides no better a platform for exposing how utterly inhuman zioists and their hangerons and dead enders are. Geddy spams the same inchoherant spam over and over with the same fictional fantasy one might expect to get from a five year old.


Robert S. McNamara dead at 93
by Richard on 06.07.2009 [16:13]    
Lets start the napalm ceremonies.

Title: Re: Nazism
Post by: Rockclimber on July 06, 2009, 10:23:32 PM
Quote from: "THE AQUARIAN 1"Still can't see the reasoning behind pushing every Jew in the world into a corner and calling them criminals.  Is that not generally what Nazis believe?  That all Jews are culpable for an international conspiracy to create a world government?  

I don't see the point to that.  It's lazy and can't be proven.

Nothing will ever be accomplished unless you STICK TO WHAT YOU CAN PROVE.  Draw your conclusions, but don't build a basis for belief on theories.

If you can prove that there is an "evil gene" within the Jewish bloodline, please show the world.  If not, grow some balls, and prove something.

Yours,

THE AQUARIAN 1

I don't get this post. Who and the hell said EVERY JEW. I think most agree that evil Jewish leadership/Jew mafia is a small minority.

When it comes to zionism (it's international) It appears based on polls that 75% of Jews are zionists here in America alone. Zionism is a cruel, it's a failure and like so many isms should be thrown in the trash bin.

Yes, if you haven't noticed zionism is international. It's not hard to prove and the proof is all over this web site--mostly mainstream articles.

There is no 'evil gene' in my view. Nor do I believe  that there is a 'jew gene' per se. Jew is a religion, not a race. There are however, just evil people with evil beliefs and ways. A cult like mentality if you will (sayanim). Obviously evil itself is prevalent in all races and cultures and worst of it tends to represent the elite class--arrogant, proud and afraid of what they might lose. Their greedy and they want it all and we are in their way and are a threat to their existence. They fear us and that's why they want us out of the way. Most of these people who call themselves jews are not. They're basically mutts of no 'pure' identity.

Zionism btw is nazism in my view.

You have a lot to disprove so I say the burden of proof is for you to disprove all their various areas of power. Good luck, that's going to be a monumental task.

Bottom line. Jews are not immune to exposure and will continue to be exposed. I hope you can agree on that much.
Title: Re: Nazism
Post by: thirdeyewise on July 06, 2009, 11:37:53 PM
you know, it's almost amazing, with all the available information today, people still can't come to grips that the nazis and the bolsheviks were all
jews playing the same game they are playing today. assume positions of power in the preferred countries and send them to war against one another.
i mean if the rothschilds are behind every war, what makes you think this supposed nobody wildcard is not part of the package.
hitler is portrayed in history as a nobody coming out of no where, yet you can find pictures of him with ludwig Wittgenstein, one of the richest jewish
families of that era.

hitler - elite school...................obama - elite school.......................................hello!
Title: Re: Nazism
Post by: thirdeyewise on July 06, 2009, 11:42:54 PM
by the way, it is not every jew but it is without a doubt a jewish conspiracy. i don't call it a zionist conspiracy because:

The jews admit themselves that In Modern judaism the main focus is the talmud. The same talmud that says all gentiles are animals to be used for whatever

It was Jews not zionist Jesus called "children of the devil"
It was Jews not zionist Cicero called "rascals and deceivers"
It was Jews not zionist Cicero called "a dark and repulsive force"
It was Jews not zionist Seneca called "a criminal nation"
It was Jews not zionist Schopenhauer called "The Great Master of Lies"
It was Jews not zionist Voltaire called "ignorant and barbaric"
It was Jews not zionist Voltaire called "the most hateful and shameful nation."
It was Jews not zionist Napoleon called "the vilest nation"  
It was Jews not zionist Napoleon called "The carrion birds of humanity"
It was Jews not zionist George Washington called "societies greatest enemies"
It was Jews not zionist Nesta Webster called "a rebellious element in every state"
It was Jews not zionist Martin Luther called "the Devil's children & a satanic breed"
It was jews not zionist Samuel Roth called "the most deadly persecutors of man "
It was Jews not zionist who were thrown out of 80 countries, 109 times

Hardly a major Jewish community has not been expelled by its Host Country. Only to be let back in again, later to be expelled once more." (Jewish Almanac 1981, p. 127)


"We Jews, we are the destroyers" - Maurice Samuels
"Wars are the Jews harvest " - Chief Rabbi Reichorn
"We Jews regard our race as superior" - Goldwin Smith, Professor
"We Jews, who have posed as Saviors of the World" - Oscar Levy
"Jews are ontologically exceptional" - Professional Holocaust survivor Elie Wiesel      
"Jewish soul stems from holiness." --Lubavitcher Rabbi Mendel Schneerson


not one person has ever said, "we zionist "


Benjamin Freedman didn't stop being a zionist, he stopped being a Jew.

Brother Nathaniel kapner didn't stopped being a zionist, he stopped being a Jew.As a matter Of fact he was never a zionist, yet he is very familiar with Jewish treachery.
Title: Re: Nazism
Post by: satya on July 07, 2009, 01:32:43 AM
Quote from: "CrackSmokeRepublican"THE AQUARIAN 1 -- How much business do you do with Jews in a day, week, year?

They have a tendency to get all the SH*T they deserve coming at them. I don't need a theory, I know their dumbass nature up close and personal. They don't have the best interests of humanity at heart.

I know Jews, live in a neighborhood with plenty of Jews, and have had Jewish friends over the years.  I will tell you there is no way in hell you can blame ALL Jews, it just does not stand up to reality.  Also, associating blaming all Jews to the anti-Jewish criminal network movement will be the end of its existence, or used as more evidence of "anti-Semites".
Title: Re: Nazism
Post by: Yo Mama on July 07, 2009, 02:43:36 AM
satya,

Jewish group ethnic behavior is the problem, not the behavior of any one individual specific Jew.

This is about racial/ethnic group behavior.  It is not about individuals.   ;)
Title: Re: Nazism
Post by: Yo Mama on July 07, 2009, 02:46:23 AM
Jewish behavior has remained the same over countless centuries.  This is proof that Jewish behavior is genetically determined, just as all human behavior is genetically determined.  It's just simple biology and science.  There's nothing mysterious about it.  Don't try to make it more complicated than it is.  ;)
Title: Re: Nazism
Post by: thirdeyewise on July 07, 2009, 03:49:36 AM
of course it's not all Jews, these guys have proven that:

Mearsheimer-Walt                
Benjamin Freedman              
Myron Fagan                        
Jack Bernstein                      
Israel Shahak                        
Henry H. Klein                      
and others  ;)

but what they have also proven, that can not be denied, is that it is, a Jewish conspiracy. and so have these guys in their own special way:

Rabbi Marvin Antelman          Author           To Eliminate the Opiate Vol.2
Maurice Samuels                   Author           You Gentiles
Harold W. Rosenthal              politician        interview        
Marcus eli Ravage                  Author          article Century Magazine   :twisted:


Here is an enemy that is Proven to be ruthless and considers me no better than an insect but i have to watch my manners as to not offend the wrong Jew.
i think not, while i will excercise all caution to not cause harm to someone innocent, that will not be my primary concern!
Title: Re: Nazism
Post by: thirdeyewise on July 07, 2009, 03:55:00 AM
WHETHER COMMUNISTS OR ZIONISTS, THEY STILL RETAIN THEIR JEWISHNESS, AND THEY STAND UNITED AGAINST ALL NON-JEWS. AND ALTHOUGH THEY TRAVEL DIFFERENT PATHS, BOTH COMMUNISM AND ZIONISM HAVE THE SAME COMMON GOAL, DOMINATION OF THE WORLD. BOTH WORK AND PLAN FOR THE DAY WHEN THE "CHOSEN RACE" SHALL "INHERIT THE EARTH".   – MARCHING TO ZOG
Title: Re: Nazism
Post by: satya on July 07, 2009, 04:06:31 AM
Quote from: "Yo Mama"Jewish behavior has remained the same over countless centuries.  This is proof that Jewish behavior is genetically determined, just as all human behavior is genetically determined.  It's just simple biology and science.  There's nothing mysterious about it.  Don't try to make it more complicated than it is.  ;)

That is one huge leap to say that is "proof".  Regardless, Jews are not one race so your theory is debunked.  Don't make it so oversimplified it doesn't make sense ;)
Title: Re: Nazism
Post by: Yo Mama on July 07, 2009, 04:46:03 AM
Quote from: "satya"That is one huge leap to say that is "proof".  Regardless, Jews are not one race so your theory is debunked.  Don't make it so oversimplified it doesn't make sense ;)

All Jews share common genetics with each other, whether they are Ashkenazi, Sephardic, or Mizrahi.  So Jews are at the very least an ethnic group, and an argument can be made that they are a race.   ;)
Title: Re: Nazism
Post by: joeblow on July 07, 2009, 05:20:21 AM
Quote from: "Yo Mama"
Quote from: "satya"That is one huge leap to say that is "proof".  Regardless, Jews are not one race so your theory is debunked.  Don't make it so oversimplified it doesn't make sense ;)

All Jews share common genetics with each other, whether they are Ashkenazi, Sephardic, or Mizrahi.  So Jews are at the very least an ethnic group, and an argument can be made that they are a race.   ;)

No, they don't. We already had a thread about this and it was thoroughly debunked using science not debating skills.

Ashkenazis aren't Semitic and, after the Mongol invasions, even Palestinians have some Turkic genetics, though overwhelming are of Semitic stock.
Title: Re: Nazism
Post by: CrackSmokeRepublican on July 07, 2009, 10:04:35 PM
Here's the Jew (BTW, I never explicitly said I "hate" Jews only that they lie). A few of us there at IR believe he is a JIDF'er:

Quote@ CSR and others
by MmArRgDdOnN on 07.07.2009 [07:53 ]    
At least you have the cayjones to open admit that you hate jews,..., your another sick sack of sh*t,..., that's a given,..., but at least you have the integrity to admit your a stund bigot,..., not quite so sure if that doesn't just prove that your more intellectually challenged than these zioheads,..., and am not going to spend much time thinking about it either.

That still doesn't get you morons off the hook for using the terms zionist and zionism as a pejorative to diseminate antisemitic zioheaded hatemongered bigotry,..., nor does it change the fact that you morons still can not even define what the terms mean.

You idiotic ignorant morons toss the Z-Bombs around like the word nigger at a KKK convention and for the same purposes I might add,..., it's open bigotry,..., plain and simple trying to hide under an umbrella term you have deemed innoculous,..., well guess what,..., you are nothing more than a cabal of frindge lunatics that have hijacked this site from it's intended purpose of fostering peace and use it to foster violence as you oly your despicable terrorism apologist ethos,..., your mentally derranged.

Furthermore,..., the truths of page one on this thread I posted still stand,...,

You getting this you demented zioheaded hatemongers,..., your bigots spewing prejustical demonizations and I am starting to suspect that you don't even have the intellectual capacity to even comprehend that fact either

Ignorant F#@king zioheaded bigots,..., you have to hang on to your Z-Bomb pejoratives,..., it's all you have to practice your demented antisemitic hatemongering with isn't it,..., without your coveted little umbrella term you have nothing do you damn bigots

Go to wiki and do your own research FFS, (yes I still think wiki is a poor research tool,..., but hey,..., it's all there anyway),..., your damn anti-zionism and anti-semiticism are one and the same thing your FN morons.

And still more:

QuoteEver notice
by MmArRgDdOnN on 07.07.2009 [14:47 ]    
How the bigots,..., any type of bigots always try to invoke some purity of race as they ply their disgusting activities,..., a la shades of Hitler and his Pure Aryians.

Check out this latest offering from this antisemitic ziohatemonger iranian bullshiite'r,..., trying to make like the Jews are not some genetically pure peoples and that the squatters on their ancient homeland are,..., how f#@ked up is that logic,..., the Levant has as many bloodlines flowing through it's people as it is possible to accumulate in any one area anywhere on earth,..., check out the damn historical records of how many armies marched through there spreading their seed while killing all the Men and young boys.

Your so damn bigoted ziobullshiite'r it is almost beyond comprehension to a normal mind,..., absolutely horrendous.
Title: Re: Nazism
Post by: thirdeyewise on July 07, 2009, 10:22:18 PM
"Go to wiki and do your own research FFS"

yeah, for unbiased research based facts................................not!!
Title: Re: Nazism
Post by: THE AQUARIAN 1 on July 08, 2009, 10:51:45 PM
Disappointing and sad.
Title: Re: Nazism
Post by: CrackSmokeRepublican on July 09, 2009, 08:39:00 PM
QuoteIf you can prove that there is an "evil gene" within the Jewish bloodline, please show the world. If not, grow some balls, and prove something.

Aquarian, did you mean this as  E. Michael Jonesn describes it?  That Judaism prior to the coming of Christ,  was a "racial faith" as in the "Blood of Abraham".  But later, from the Christian perspective, Jews were simply categorized by the "Chruch" as "Rejectors of Christ and Logos".
Title: Re: Nazism
Post by: abduLMaria on July 11, 2009, 06:23:40 PM
Quote from: "MikeWB"Who here is a supporter of Neo-Nazis, Nazism and is a sympathizer of Hitler? Why do you support them?

how much of Nazi-ism is persecution of Gays & Gypsies, & how much is persecution/prosecution of Jews ?

one thing i didn't like about Hitler was the Reichstag Fire.  i have a hard time seeing an use for false flag terror.

if Hitler hadn't killed 3 1/2 million Jews, would we still have Israel ?

if Hitler had never come to power, would we still have Israel ?

those questions are so theoretical, we would need 3 different Earths to try various versions of Hitler & see how it turns out.

what's a little more down-to-earth that i wonder is - why did the so-called "good Germans" not speak out against the Holocaust more ?  is it because the Jews had made themselves un-popular in Germany, by being dishonest in their business dealings ?

i don't know the 'atmosphere' in war-time Germany.  i guess for that you would almost need the memoirs or diary of a 'good German' to see what was going through their head.
Title: Re: Nazism
Post by: Yo Mama on July 11, 2009, 10:17:06 PM
The Hollow Hoax is a massive fraud of epic proportions, abduLMaria.

 8-)
Title: Re: Nazism
Post by: CrackSmokeRepublican on July 12, 2009, 02:24:14 AM
Remember, hypocritical Israel is the only nation not "Globalizing" with imported Indian/Chinese/African/South American labor. Why is that?

It is a shame the Goy can't outsource their lazy Israeli asses as fast as idiot Jewish MBA/Project Manager assholes outsource across the USA and Europe. Putting the shoe on the other foot so to speak.  

But, hey, "interests" always seem to resort to towards the racial dimension when the real money, life or death, is on the line. It always reminds of the idiot Russian Jews importing Black Communists from New York during the first Bolshevik Soviet in the Duma in 1917-1919. Talk to the Russians about the Jews -- ask them if they had a lot of "ethnics" that the Jews used in their power schemes against the core group of "Racial" Russians for over 80 years.  

So, the American Jewish Question (AJQ) is first a Religious Question and then a racial question. Without a dream of the 3rd temple, organized Jewry would break up into secular sects each pursuing their own brand of Judaism (like the Protestants) each with a different flavor.  To believe in a Racially Pure Israel is to believe in a divine right to rule over Goyim Talmudic style. Corrupting others (religiously, morally, sexually, racially?)  is first and foremost in the game plan.  Therefore, any Globalizing Immigrant needs to ask themselves, "Am I working for the Jewish Zionist program?". Most likely at the end of the day in clear perspective -- they are working for the Jews and their program despite their own ambitions .

And yeah, the Holohoax is a massive money Scam on the West.  Parasitical Rats in Israel have gotten way to much than they deserve from the Goyim of Europe.  Jews engineered WWII and reaped the benefits from the WW I and WWII more than any other nation.
Title: Re: Nazism
Post by: thirdeyewise on July 14, 2009, 04:30:33 PM
the rothschild have planned & financed every major war since the french revolution, why anyone would think Hitler was some kind unexpected wildcard, is beyond me.

"Next, let me reveal to you a secret: Nazism is nothing else than an imitation and perversion of Marxism; there is nothing in nazism which was not taken from Marxism. Study Hitler's anti-Marxist Bible: Mein Kampf, read it carefully, and what will you find ? You will find that Hitler adopted the principles, the ideas, the policy and the method of Marxism. The National Socialist Party of Hitler was modelled after the fashion of the Communist Party of Soviet Russia, and both were fashioned according to the ideas of Marxism. Like the revolutionary Marxists, Hitler laid the emphasis upon the working masses. Where did the nazis get the idea of the National Socialist Party, where did they get the principles and demands embodied in the twenty-five demands of the National Socialist Party? And who were the theoreticians of nazism, were they not socialists, communists and men and women who received their education from Marxism ? Where did Hitler and his followers get the idea of international capital, exploitation, on the one hand, and socialism and national planning, on the other? Did they not get all this from Marxism? But what is most significant is this. If not for the great work that had been done by the Marxists, if not for the Russian revolution, if not for the ground that had been prepared by the socialists and the communists, Hitler, the nazis and the National Socialist Party would have never come into existence.    
- Rabbi Harry Waton: Nazism is an imitation of Judaism - A PROGRAM FOR HUMANITY
Published by
COMMITTEE FOR THE PRESERVATION OF THE JEWS
NEW YORK Ñ 1939




Whats more interesting is the opinion some of his early Party comrades had of him, including Anton Drexler, original head of the Party. They published a pamphlet/indictment of Hitler in 1921:

A lust for power and personal ambition have caused Herr Adolf Hitler to return to his post after his six weeks stay in Berlin, of which the purpose has not yet been disclosed. He regards the time as ripe for bringing disunion and schism to our ranks by means of shadowy people behind him, and thus futher the interests of the Jews and their friends.

It grows more and more clear that his purpose is simply to use the National Socialist party as a springboard for his own immoral purposes, and to seize the leadership in order to force the party onto a different track at the pyschological moment. This is most clearly shown by an ultimatum which he sent to the Party leaders a few days ago, in which he demands, among other things, that he shall have a sole and absolute dictatorship of the Party, and that the Committee, including the locksmith Anton Drexler, the founder and leader of the Party, should retire.

And how does he carry on his campaign? Like a Jew. He twists every fact....National Socialists! Make up your minds about such characters! Make no mistake. Hitler is a demogogue....He believes himself capable of filling you up with all kinds of tales that are anything but the truth.
Title: Re: Nazism
Post by: Yo Mama on July 14, 2009, 04:40:24 PM
Jews hate nationalistic movements, and especially National Socialism, because nationalistic movements specifically excludes Jews.  This is why the Jewish mass media in every Western nation constantly propagandizes against Nationalism and nationalist political parties.  :roll:
Title: Re: Nazism
Post by: thirdeyewise on July 14, 2009, 05:18:07 PM
did you read my post, Jews don't hate anything, it's all their doing, they put leaders in key positions in all the movements.

for all we know ognir is a jew...............just kidding ognir!