understanding Ron Paul (for DBS, Ognir, etc)

[sirbadman]

If my memory is correct, I think RP let vote fraud take place with barely a whimper.

I used to think he was great until I saw that clip where he upheld his belief in the official 911 story which we all know stinks like the BS it is.

I really dont care about him. RP is irrelevant. He will achieve nothing. He also helped write some book with a PNAC member. Didnt he have jews everywhere in his campaign team? Does anyone really know what he did with all the $$ he raised?

Oh and a gold-based currency plays to the hands of the jewish banksters anyway. Even if they dont own as much gold as they used to, they still have heaps and can push through laws for the US govt to seize gold from private hands at whatever low price, like what they did during the Great Depression. And that gold in fort knox.. well no one knows as it has never been audited, so obviously it got looted a long time ago, probably by jewish banksters.

Didnt know RP is a 33rd degree mason though.. has anyone got any links/supporting info on that?

[scorpio]

If my memory is correct, I think RP let vote fraud take place with barely a whimper.

I used to think he was great until I saw that clip where he upheld his belief in the official 911 story which we all know stinks like the BS it is.

I really dont care about him. RP is irrelevant. He will achieve nothing. He also helped write some book with a PNAC member. Didnt he have jews everywhere in his campaign team? Does anyone really know what he did with all the $$ he raised?

Oh and a gold-based currency plays to the hands of the jewish banksters anyway. Even if they dont own as much gold as they used to, they still have heaps and can push through laws for the US govt to seize gold from private hands at whatever low price, like what they did during the Great Depression. And that gold in fort knox.. well no one knows as it has never been audited, so obviously it got looted a long time ago, probably by jewish banksters.

Didnt know RP is a 33rd degree mason though.. has anyone got any links/supporting info on that?

I agree 100%
That about sums it up for me.

As for RP being a 33rd degree mason, I don't know if there is a link for that. I know it from personal experience.
Several years ago, I was visiting a family relative in Washington DC.
I told my wife that I wanted to visit the Scottish Rite Supreme Council building to take some pics and look for symbols on the building.
We headed down there, and to our amazement the door was open.
We walked in and started looking around. With in a few minutes, this older guy came up to us and asked
what we were doing (The door was only open because they were doing some construction/repairs inside)
I promptly apologized, and told him that I was interested in Freemasonry because one of my grandfathers was a mason.
He asked me my grandfathers name, and said hold on a minute.
When he returned he asked if we wanted a tour. I told him yes.
He proceeded to give us a tour of the building, including the ritual room, which had HEBREW lettering all over the altar.
Anyway, the very last room was the 33rd degree room. It was wall to wall pictures of famous 33rd degree masons.
There were pics of Michael Richards (kramer from Seinfeld), Burl Ives, J. Edgar Hoover....and.....Ron Paul.
Each pic had their name and a brief bio.
The whole building was really creepy and had a bad 'vibe' to it.
Strange story, but 100% true.

[sirbadman]

Wow - that's a TIU scoop right there. If someone got a photo/video of it that would finish off this RP waste of space for good.

The funny thing about RP is that even if he isn't a false prophet, the guy is seriously old, he must have only a few years left in the tank. I think most RP supporters have seen the light anyway. Even prothink did, before he started holding hands with wannabe Nazis.

[LordLindsey]

I discussed this on Mike Piper's show tonight towards the end when he FINALLY took calls; this is on-the-record now.

LINDSEY

[Rockclimber]

I discussed this on Mike Piper's show tonight towards the end when he FINALLY took calls; this is on-the-record now.

LINDSEY

Tonight's show:

http://www.mediafire.com/file/wzgigywh0 ... 200000.mp3

[Christopher Marlowe]

Anybody who doesn't know the official 9/11 story is bullsh*t is too stupid to be in public office. Period.  If they haven't done the research, then they have no intellectual curiosity and they shouldn't be in public office.

If someone is afraid to speak out about israel because he might get shot, then he is too much of a p*ssy to be the President.  You need brass ones to be the President.

If someone can't keep track of $50 million or $20 million in campaign funds, then he sure as sh*t can't keep track of trillions of dollars. And he shouldn't be president.  

If someone is a mason, then he is either: a stupid c*nt who wants to be a secret spy and wear spiderman pajamas; or he is a secret asshole who makes secret deals with other secret assholes. And he shouldn't be president.  

As for the US Constitution, Article I, Section 8: "Congress shall have the power....To coin money, regulate the value thereof, and of foreign coin, and fix the standard of weights and measures."

Article I, Section 10: "Clause 1: No State shall enter into any Treaty, Alliance, or Confederation; grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal; coin Money; emit Bills of Credit; make any Thing but gold and silver Coin a Tender in Payment of Debts; pass any Bill of Attainder, ex post facto Law, or Law impairing the Obligation of Contracts, or grant any Title of Nobility. "

So just the plain meaning of the Constitution shows that STATES could not coin money or make anything but gold and silver coin a tender in payment of debts.  The Colonies had the power to create money, and the states had the power to create money under the Articles of the Confederation. That power was taken away by the Constitution and granted to the Congress.  

I have to agree with mgt23 on the money system. Ellen Brown has the solution.  Make state banks. Make the Fed a national bank owned by the people. Only issue money based on hours worked or goods created.  Spend money into existence. All that crap about: we can't trust our government to print our money.... Then we can't trust our government to run our courts, fight our wars, build our bridges, collect our taxes. If it comes down to an issue of trust, you can't trust anyone but your Mother and Jesus. That's why we have a system of checks and balances: Divide the power between 3 equal branches; Divide the power between State and Fed.

All that libertarian shit will get us paying 5 dollars whenever we want to go to the park.  Open government run by transparent regs. Keeps everything above board. I would rather have my bank run by people that I voted for than by some fat zionist f*ck. A state bank would have to balance its books regularly. State banks would have real assets: Land in the state. And really, what is more valuable: land or gold?

[Anonymous]

don't worry so much your leaders will be provided for you

[brandon dean]

regarding the money system, the constitution says "silver and gold are money"

the constitution also says congress shall regulate the VALUE of the currency.  it does not say we are to back our economy with gold or silver.  

the only successful currencies in history were fiat, not gold-backed.

ron paul's free market bullshit is what I dislike about the man.  he's always had a vested interest in a gold-backed currency.  he served on ronald reagan's Gold Commission in the early 80's, which found that the government should go back on the gold standard, after nixon axed it in 1974.

hell, ron paul brags about being close friends with reagan.

I understand the point the OP is making, but there are too many things about RP which will obviously not help us.  he would not help fix the zionism question, because he won't address it.  he certainly won't fix our economy - he wants to take us back to the dark ages with that gold shit.

and honeslty, given those two things--there is nothing he could really do to impress me.  he can wax poetic about liberty and the constitution all day.  he can bullshit about austrian economics and all that crap.  HE CAN PRETEND THE PRESIDENT WOULD HAVE THE POWER TO WITHDRAW OUR TROOPS FROM AROUND THE WORLD.  but the fact is they are no longer our troops, and they no longer serve our interests.  does anyone in their right mind think that if obama tried to recall our troops, anyone would listen?

[Ognir]

Say no more Brandon

ron paul's free market bullshit

They've controlled the FREE MARKETS for centuries
The guy is a knucklehead and to be avoided

[abduLMaria]

for me the politicians i admire are the ones that upset the apple cart enough to rile the Zionists.

John F. Kennedy & Paul Wellstone are 2 examples.

Cynthia McKinney is another.

that reminds me - i would sure love to see Cynthia run for Senator.

Wellstone was a huge obstacle to the Iraq War 2.  it is also probable that he was interested in investigating 9-11 properly.

one of the facts about his plane crash death is that the FBI van that went to investigate the crash left the office & started driving - before the plane left the ground.

it was reported in local Minnesota media at the time, on or about October 26, 2002.

as far as Ron Paul, i understand that elected representatives have to be Machiavellian.  e.g. say one thing to be elected - then do the right thing once in office.

given that Ron Paul has been marginalized anyway, what does he have to lose by telling the truth about 9-11 ?  he'd win millions of new voters; he's already alienated most of the Jewish voters by not supporting Rahm's agenda.

[brandon dean]

Say no more Brandon

ron paul's free market bullshit

They've controlled the FREE MARKETS for centuries
The guy is a knucklehead and to be avoided

the coolest thing ron paul ever did was tell that fat dude he should lose weight on the morton downey jr. show in 1987...  :mrgreen:

[superzebra]

ron paul is freemason proof:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9KTgv7O05U