Question About the Neturei Karta

[MonkeySeeMonkeyDo]

From the NKUSA site:

ACCORDING TO THE JEWISH FAITH AND TORAH LAW THE JEWISH PEOPLE ARE FORBIDDEN TO HAVE THEIR OWN STATE WHILE AWAITING THE MESSIANIC ERA!
http://www.nkusa.org/AboutUs/Zionism/ju ... ionism.cfm

I just have a quick question for people here. The Neturei Karta anti-Zionist jews base their ideology on a religious belief that God commands jews to be in exile until their messiah returns therefore a Jewish state is heretical and illegitimate. Now i'm not saying the NK are bad, and they do have a good message, but my question is, if the NK did not have that interpretation of the Torah would they still be protesting against Israel? Would they still be anti-Zionist if they ceased to have this fundamental religious belief? Wouldn't they be bobbing their heads against the wailing wall as I type this?

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[MonkeySeeMonkeyDo]

These are the typical catchphrases that anti-Truth "truthers" and/or faux anti-Zionist niche clinging pigeonholists love to spout:

"it's only the zionists" , "zionists are atheists", "zionists are ashkenazis", "Ashkenazis are khazars", "khazars are false jews", "Zionists are like nazis", "they are ashkeNAZIS", "sephardim are angels", "real semitic jews don't commit crimes", etc, etc.

Other bullshit terms that validate the Jewish fairy tale that the Nazis were pure evil, genocidal demons:

"Zionazis", "Ziofascists"

[MonkeySeeMonkeyDo]

According to demonic Jewish academic Judaism and Zionism are one in the same.

[youtube:30ulq2e3]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNsX9oMedB0[/youtube]30ulq2e3]

 So we have the Neturei Karta saying that Judaism and Zionism are "diametrically opposed" and this woman saying it's are the same thing. How could they end up at such opposite conclusions? Surely they both can't be correct. Who is trying to fool whom?

[Ahmed]

Now i'm not saying the NK are bad, and they do have a good message, but my question is, if the NK did not have that interpretation of the Torah would they still be protesting against Israel? Would they still be anti-Zionist if they ceased to have this fundamental religious belief? Wouldn't they be bobbing their heads against the wailing wall as I type this?

Probably not, religion appears to be the main motivator for their protests. That, and now, at least for the younger NK; the fact that Zionist Jews assault them with batons and daub swastikas on their synagogues. For information on how some Jews behave when they think their messiahs in town, see the Sabbatai Zevi debacle.

[Wimpy]

Neturei Karta Jews haven't gained any credibility from me due to their supposed and dubious opposition to Zionism.  They're still stereotypical indoctrinated Jews, and perhaps a worse threat than 'non-believer' Zionist Jews due to their fervent 'True Believer' status.  No, it may appear confusing but viewing Zionists, Judaism, Neturei Karta as the same, that is Jews, certainly helps keep the false dichotomy in check.  The masters of dialectic and the stirring up general confusion to keep the Goy off balance and distracted.

[MonkeySeeMonkeyDo]

Neturei Karta Jews haven't gained any credibility from me due to their supposed and dubious opposition to Zionism.  They're still stereotypical indoctrinated Jews, and perhaps a worse threat than 'non-believer' Zionist Jews due to their fervent 'True Believer' status.  No, it may appear confusing but viewing Zionists, Judaism, Neturei Karta as the same, that is Jews, certainly helps keep the false dichotomy in check.  The masters of dialectic and the stirring up general confusion to keep the Goy off balance and distracted.

Yea. They spend most of their time trying to combat the idea that all Jews are Zionists and that Judaism and Zionism are the same thing. They're reputation salvager's in essence, not much more. They don't really care about the palestinians, that's just an ancillary cause that they've taken up to make themselves look more legitimate. They're fundie Jews, and Talmudists, orthodox rabbinical scholars, Zoharites, etc. They are hardcore Jews basically. But the problem is they've actually convinced a lot of people that there is nothing wrong with Judaism at its core. They've softened people up and turned them into little wimps who won't even say the word Jew in fear of offending one of these Beard boys. The NK are like gods to the pigeonholists.  :eh:

[MonkeySeeMonkeyDo]

don't you guys hate wimpy little liberal hippy anti-Truth "truthers" who cringe and become spastic at any hint of "jewish conspiracy"? These clowns openly question every historical event except for the Holoco$t and then denounce "holocaust deniers" like this is an honorable thing to do and act like they are repulsed by such an odious "conspiracy theory". I think they're a bunch of two-faced faggots!  :shh:

[anarchore]

According to demonic Jewish academic Judaism and Zionism are one in the same.

[youtube:x61gnd5e]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNsX9oMedB0[/youtube]x61gnd5e]

 So we have the Neturei Karta saying that Judaism and Zionism are "diametrically opposed" and this woman saying it's are the same thing. How could they end up at such opposite conclusions? Surely they both can't be correct. Who is trying to fool whom?

She is trying to fool us, to discredit criticism of Zionism.

[anarchore]

These are the typical catchphrases that anti-Truth "truthers" and/or faux anti-Zionist niche clinging pigeonholists love to spout:

"it's only the zionists" , "zionists are atheists", "zionists are ashkenazis", "Ashkenazis are khazars", "khazars are false jews", "Zionists are like nazis", "they are ashkeNAZIS", "sephardim are angels", "real semitic jews don't commit crimes", etc, etc.

So, what's wrong with that... I wouldn't say it's only the Zionists, but it is mostly the Zionists.  The degree of percentage of Zionist sentiment in the J-wish community is a measure of their pernicious potential.

Other bullshit terms that validate the Jewish fairy tale that the Nazis were pure evil, genocidal demons:

"Zionazis", "Ziofascists"

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Very pugnacious tone out of you today, and here you are once again queuing up for a deserved bitch-slappy...  

fascism = communism = state control = sucks = boot on human face for eternity

NO to fascism, state communism, and Zionism.  Fuck capitalism, too.

[MonkeySeeMonkeyDo]

These are the typical catchphrases that anti-Truth "truthers" and/or faux anti-Zionist niche clinging pigeonholists love to spout:

"it's only the zionists" , "zionists are atheists", "zionists are ashkenazis", "Ashkenazis are khazars", "khazars are false jews", "Zionists are like nazis", "they are ashkeNAZIS", "sephardim are angels", "real semitic jews don't commit crimes", etc, etc.

So, what's wrong with that...

Because it's a bunch of baloney and you know that...

Other bullshit terms that validate the Jewish fairy tale that the Nazis were pure evil, genocidal demons:

"Zionazis", "Ziofascists"

Very pugnacious tone out of you today, and here you are once again queuing up for a deserved bitch-slappy...

fascism = communism = state control = sucks = boot on human face for eternity

NO to fascism, state communism, and Zionism.  Fuck capitalism, too.

I never said fascism was good,and i dont like it, but when you use homosexual terms like that you are indirectly validating Jewish lies about WWII.

[anarchore]

"homosexual terms"

OK, now you've done it!

[MonkeySeeMonkeyDo]

"homosexual terms"

OK, now you've done it!

I assume this is your masturbatory material, no?  :eh:

[VoltaXebec]

Concrats to MSMD on being promoted to Site Admin, I'm glad to see it :up: