"Mossad did 9-11" DEMONSTRATION Today in LA

Started by Christopher Marlowe, May 18, 2010, 02:44:43 PM

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Christopher Marlowe

The "We Are Change" groups get a lot of flak on this site and by DBS, but I am convinced that despite any "shill" control, the groups are mostly populated by truthseekers. Although certain chapters, (like the NYC chapter where the leader appears to have been appropriating funds for his own personal use) may be misdirected, this is offset by local autonomy.

The many videos presented by WeAreChangeLA show that they are onto israhell and the Mossad, and today's demonstration is an awesome idea.  (I might go if anyone here in SD is interested in sharing a ride.)

QuotePeople who believe that Israel's Mossad* did 9/11 will demonstrate in front of the Israeli Consulate.

(*Accusing the Mossad implies that it was ordered to do 9/11 by Israeli leaders and was aided by allies and helpers in the United States, both Gentile and Jewish.)

Zan Overall -

"We know how the atrocity was done. The American public and the world need to know who did it. Israel needs to know that more and more people are learning that Israel Mossad did 9-11. This is a truth whose time has finally come.

"Some of you are fully on board with the idea of Israeli guilt. Some of you are not. I urge people in both categories to study the evidence for Israeli guilt. The easiest way to do that is to go to: http://www.Rediscover... and read two articles at the top of the main page.
- Cui bono (Who Benefits)
- Who Did 9/11

"People who don't believe Israel's leaders did 9/11 may change their minds and join us.m People who believe Israel's leaders did 9/11 will be better informed and better advocates for the idea.

"We need to make a good showing! Please spread the word about this event, even to people not in the Los Angeles area. Those people can spread the word to their contacts, some of whom may be in the area.

"If you intend to be part of the demonstration, it is essential that you email me at [masked] and let me know. We need to know how many placards to prepare. To present a unified message we will provide placards and flyers to hand out. There will be a police presence so no one need fear violence.

"To hearten you and encourage you to come to the demonstration, let me conclude with the courageous statement of Dr. Alan Sabrosky, Marine veteran and former Director of Studies at the U.S. Army War College. He says, "It is 100% certain that 9/11 was a Mossad operation. Period."

- Zan Overall
[masked]
May  18    Tue  2:00 PM

Location
Israeli Consulate

6380 Wilshire Blvd.
Los Angeles, CA 90035
(323) 464-1636
And, as their wealth increaseth, so inclose
    Infinite riches in a little room

VoltaXebec

Yeah, I hope this old boy gets lots of support so he doesn't get intimidated by some thug like in that video posted a while back.

Christopher Marlowe

There were about 12 of us that turned out.  Not a great showing.  There wasn't a great deal of foot traffic in front of the israhel embassy.  About 70% of the people did not want to take leaflets. A few people got bitchy and I tried to inform them of the facts. They didn't want to know the facts.  

There were about 4 police there so there was nobody trying to get tough.  I met that old guy Zan.  He's serious.  Some of the people started talking about stuff because it is so unusual to meet people in real life who get it: about the holohoax, and the apollo magic ride, and that 9/11 was a mossad job.  But Zan was going, "Hey! Get busy! People are walking by and you're not saying anything."

So I made some connections. Everybody there lives in LA, so I don't know how helpful that was.  I figure it was better than doing nothing, which is what I usually do.
And, as their wealth increaseth, so inclose
    Infinite riches in a little room

§N9sh2bj

there is nothing that beats meeting people whom you might be able to meet again.

these people are your brothers, your sisters, your aunts and uncles.

'world jewry' has done everything they can to drive a stake in the heart of mankind.

The only problem is they are a part of the same family.
moved on.
the author does not adopt jewish \'race theory\' or \'darwinism\'.
and believes \'jewish culture\' is mostly one of supporting their organized crime syndicates, with a enough veneer and an organized system of destroying and reshaping other cultures, to obfuscate the truth to most people.

abduLMaria

Wilshire Blvd. gets a lot of traffic.

with the right signs, e.g. advertising IamtheWitness.com, and the right location - e.g., standing near a stoplight where cars are stopped and can look at the signs - one good demonstration can accomplish a huge amount of guerrilla advertising.
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http://www.PalestineRemembered.com/!

VoltaXebec

Quote from: "Christopher Marlowe"There were about 12 of us that turned out.  Not a great showing.  There wasn't a great deal of foot traffic in front of the israhel embassy.  About 70% of the people did not want to take leaflets. A few people got bitchy and I tried to inform them of the facts. They didn't want to know the facts.  

There were about 4 police there so there was nobody trying to get tough.  I met that old guy Zan.  He's serious.  Some of the people started talking about stuff because it is so unusual to meet people in real life who get it: about the holohoax, and the apollo magic ride, and that 9/11 was a mossad job.  But Zan was going, "Hey! Get busy! People are walking by and you're not saying anything."

So I made some connections. Everybody there lives in LA, so I don't know how helpful that was.  I figure it was better than doing nothing, which is what I usually do.

Great, it's a start, next time you guys might meet up somewhere first and get the chat out of the way, plan some tactics and hit the street as a unit  :up:

Christopher Marlowe

We could have used a little better organizing.  I'm not the "organizing" type.  

Also, maybe I should eat just a little crow here.  Very few of the people at this rally were actually associated with WeAreChangeLA. I don't know how the meet-up was organized, but the post above advertised that group.
And, as their wealth increaseth, so inclose
    Infinite riches in a little room

kolnidre

Kudos for getting out there and speaking the truth.

Any interesting comments or encounters to tell about?
Take heed to yourself lest you make a covenant with the inhabitants of the land whither you go, lest it become a snare in the midst of you.
-Exodus 34]

Negentropic

This Zan Overall guy is the same old guy from the Alex theatre video. Just checking around for about 5 minutes I found he's been active on the street level since 2007 and the signs  he wore went from people inside our government did 9/11 to Israel did 9/11 as he learned more and more.  That can't be his real name?

Not that demonstrations matter much anymore (see explanation below) but if the goal is to get some info out then  ten times better than demonstrating with 20 people in one spot would be to make hundreds of stickers with the strongest adhesive possible and with clearly visible links to all the websites and vandalize the whole town with them.  Freeway offramps are a good place. In the book "Get in the Van" Henry Rollins talks about how in the early days of the punk band Black Flag they used to use wheat paste and glue to put their fliers on telephone polls all over the place and the sun would dry the stuff so hard it would stay on for a year!  The  people doing it would have to disguise themselves good or they'd be arrested from camera footage and hassled by the pigs and possibly even thrown into an offshore terrorist dungeon without a trial or lawyer.   Hey, who's going to stop them?  I remember reading in the L.A. Weekly that a couple of Persian real estate agents from the San Fernando Valley were thrown into a dungeon without trial just for being at the wrong meeting.

The reason that demonstrations are useless for 9/11 truth is that everybody already knows.  Everybody already knows the official story was bullshit, they just won't admit it because it would throw their whole mental equilibrium into disarray and cause them lots of problems, self-esteem problems to begin with. This applies even more to "Israel did 9/11" inquiry than to the "9/11 was an inside job, Alex Jones variety inquiry." Steve Tesich identified this phenomenon way back in the early 90s with regards to the first gulf war:  

"The problems confronting us now are no longer seen as problems. Truth is perceived as the problem, as the real enemy, and more and more we look to our government to protect us from it.
 
When the War in the Gulf began we therefore not only accepted, we embraced with patriotic fervor, press censorship of the war. We would only see what our government wanted us to see and we saw nothing wrong with that. We liked it that way. Our government was looking after us. It wasn't that long ago, however, that we felt nothing but pity for the poor Soviet people whose undemocratic government controlled the media and censored all the news from the war in Afghanistan.
 
The wimping of truth took another step recently when the diplomatic cables of our Ambassador to Iraq were declassified by the State Department.
 
The justification for the entire war rested on the premise that war was unavoidable and that our Ambassador in the firmest of tones had warned Saddam Hussein not to violate the territorial integrity of Kuwait. Our State Department assured us that this was true. Our Ambassador, testifying in front of the Senate, reaffirmed the truth of this position.
 
It now turns out, just as we expected, that it was all a lie. But the fact that our government now feels safe in declassifying these tapes bespeaks another truth.
They are no longer afraid of truth because they know that the truth will have little impact on us. Their message to us is this: we've given you a glorious victory and we've given you back your self esteem...now here's the truth. Which do you prefer?
 
The implications are terrifying. We are being told that we can't have both anymore, truth and self esteem. We have to choose. One excludes the other.
 
The implications are even more terrifying than this. Our government now perceives that we are entering a new phase where we, in return for self esteem, are willing to lie to ourselves.
 
We are rapidly becoming prototypes of a people that totalitarian monsters could only drool about in their dreams. All the dictators up to now have had to work and work hard at suppressing the truth. We, by our actions, are saying that this is no longer necessary, that we have acquired a spiritual mechanism which can denude the truth of any significance. In a very fundamental way we, as a free people, have freely decided that we want to live in some post-truth world."
--- Steve Tesich – "The Wimping of America"



Now, remember, there was no Patriot act in the early '90s actually threatening with potential force but people were already freely and actively refusing the truth for self-esteem. People will refuse to talk about it when you bring it up.   The better your reasoning and logic, the more determined they will be to refuse to talk about it.  Soldiers do this all the time when they realize they've been duped into killing people for no reason at all and no glory and no imaginary country. They repress it and get mad at you. They certainly don't reason and accept conclusions.  


Everybody already knows about Alex Jones and his cronies in the 'truth movment' also. Willie Nelson, Charlie Sheen, Jesse Ventura, etc. They know he's there. His DVD was in the top ten at Amazon.com. It's only a small step from AJ to Rense and WHR but  they just don't care.  The stronger your proof the more they will refuse.  These people are brainwashed from birth through every moment of their lives to be like this. They are also cowards and sell-outs in addition to being brainwashed.  

What to do with these people since convincing them with reason and logic is impossible?

You ridicule them so that they will begin their own de-conditioning process. You laugh at them!  You ridicule them and you ignore them.  You let them know how unhip and square and cowardly they are to act the way they do with a knowing glance and a broad shit-eating grin. You refuse to acknowledge that their reality is the 'mainstream' one. The  truth movment is a counter-cultural force now with millions of woken up ex-zombies roaming the earth.  Pickles that will never be cucumbers again.  The truth movement is the cool and courageous place to be and they're the ones who are the 'losers' and 'geeks' who need to get a life, not us. The truth movement at this point in time is at the very least one of the main streams within all societies the world over that have access to the internet.  We have taken over.  That's what you've got to understand and we don't need to take insults from cowards and sell-outs on street corners and pretend we're a fringe element with only 20 people. We don't need to be made to look ridiculous because we're already kicking their ass all over the place. They are the ones who need to be marginalized and made to look ridiculous, which is easy to do with cowards, hypocrites and sell-outs. It's only because of Alex Jones that the facts about 9/11 are at a dead-end but it's also because of his lard-ass that so many people are sniffing around even if they're off the scent. It's only a matter of time now before lard-ass has to admit the facts or lose all credibility and his entire fan base to us, by that, I don't mean info-underground and DBS but the entire non-Alex portion of the truth movement from Rense and Rivero all the way down to DBS and everyone else.  This is a huge number of pickles easily in the millions who can be called the non-Alex truthers. Basically anyone who's posted "Israel did 9/11" and / or had Sabrosky on qualifies including Barrett and Fetzer.  


Whatever happened to the Luke Rudkowski College tuition embezzling allegations by the way? That story just disappeared off the radar>

Bela

I still like the rubber stamp on the dollar bills (or 5, 10, 20, etc) saying Israel did 9-11.   The problem is where to direct people (website?)

Christopher Marlowe

QuoteAny interesting comments or encounters to tell about?
One guy who was there to protest kept saying over and over that he didn't hate jews.  He was not an anti-semite and he wanted everyone to know it.  He must have said that a dozen times that I heard.
He had served in the military, but had later learned that our government was full of liars who fought wars for israel.
I told him that I understood. He was just there to protest because mossad did 9/11 and there was no getting around that fact.
He was so happy  that I understood he didn't hate jews.  He was all smiles; a very conflicted man.  But you have to give him props: he saw his duty and he did it.

I think a lot of people get to that point of realizing that israel is wicked and then they just shut down. They can't handle it.  They've been told all their lives, by the movies and TV that Jews are all good and israel is our friend.  That stands in such stark opposition to the truth that it creates an irresolvable conflict.  

There were cops present so nobody tried to get rough.  One fat beanie-wearing Jewish guy came back to argue twice.  He didn't want to listen to the facts.  He just wanted to deny.
I got into a little argument with a Jewish guy who said we were crazy.  I started telling him the facts, but he didn't want to hear them and walked away.  

By and large, people don't "think". They do what they have always done to get by in a given situation. Whatever has worked in the past is what they will continue to do until it doesn't work.  That is why people will often vote the straight ticket.  It saves them from thinking.  
People don't want to reassess who they view israel and the jewish people.  Or 9/11. Or the moon landings. Or the holohoax.  They just want to watch TV and go back to sleep.  
One of my oldest friends is like that now. He just wants to take his Wellbutrin and watch "Lost".
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    Infinite riches in a little room

Bela

Quote from: "Christopher Marlowe"
QuoteThat stands in such stark opposition to the truth that it creates an irresolvable conflict.

That's "cognitive dissonance". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_dissonance

QuoteThey just want to watch TV and go back to sleep.  
One of my oldest friends is like that now. He just wants to take his Wellbutrin and watch "Lost".

And that's "denial". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial


Israel often engages in what is known as "DARVO" http://dynamic.uoregon.edu/~jjf/defineDARVO.html
 in short:

An acronym to describe common strategy of abusers: Deny the abuse, then Attack the victim for attempting to make them accountable for their offense, thereby Reversing Victim and Offender. Psychologist Jennifer Freyd[4]. writes:

"...I have observed that actual abusers threaten, bully and make a nightmare for anyone who holds them accountable or asks them to change their abusive behavior. This attack, intended to chill and terrify, typically includes threats of law suits, overt and covert attacks on the whistle-blower's credibility, and so on. The attack will often take the form of focusing on ridiculing the person who attempts to hold the offender accountable. [...] [T]he offender rapidly creates the impression that the abuser is the wronged one, while the victim or concerned observer is the offender. Figure and ground are completely reversed. [...] The offender is on the offense and the person attempting to hold the offender accountable is put on the defense.


Drug addicts and alcoholics often engage in DARVO.  Israel is essentially the black sheep of countries, the alcoholic nutter of the human family.

LordLindsey

""...I have observed that actual abusers threaten, bully and make a nightmare for anyone who holds them accountable or asks them to change their abusive behavior. This attack, intended to chill and terrify, typically includes threats of law suits, overt and covert attacks on the whistle-blower's credibility, and so on. The attack will often take the form of focusing on ridiculing the person who attempts to hold the offender accountable. [...] [T]he offender rapidly creates the impression that the abuser is the wronged one, while the victim or concerned observer is the offender. Figure and ground are completely reversed. [...] The offender is on the offense and the person attempting to hold the offender accountable is put on the defense."

This fits, in my non-humble opinion, Alex Joenz to an absolute "T."

LINDSEY
The Military KNOWS that Israel Did 911!!!!

http://theinfounderground.com/smf/index.php?topic=10233.0

Negentropic

Yeah but can't you see, Lord Lindsey, Alex is bringing SO MANY millions of former zombies into the movement, bringing them right to the big gate of the gigantic castle and then giving them a Bilderberger/United-Colors-of-Mostly-White-Christian-Evil-Fucks / Nazi-Nazi-Nazi-Hitler-Fascist-Fourth-Reichers-with-new-DEATH-CAMPS / Germanic Death Cults lobotomy and re-brainwashing them as NEW IMPROVED !! zombie patriotards who will do anything but arrest the actual criminals.  If Alex is a self-created shill and useful idiot and does not have an actual handler then he thinks that by his actions he's perfroming the supreme good deed of protecting the every-day non-Zionist Jew against a pogrom or a new holycost, never mind the millions of Arabs slaughtered in the past 10 years, that doesn't count for fatboy shit-head, only those precious souls of SUPER-victim-sufferers related to his own wife and kids and his 16 advertisers and his lawyer's big time gangster family client.   How can you knock Alex after all the good he's done? !!!   Don't you bastards have any SHAME !!!!?  Benjamin Freedman & Jack Bernstein?  Never heard of 'em !   This is the real radio show punk!  I'm taking the gloves off !!   5 million views on Obama Deception!  You people are just jealous!  I WILL DESTROY SASQUATCH RENSE THAT VEGAN WIMP FOR DARING TO LINK TO THAT KAPNER BASTARD!  i OWN Ted Anderson's ASS !!   I'm taking this never-to-be-solved doom-&-gloom investigation to XM Satellite Radio OWNED BY ARABS  !!  I'll be investigating German Death Cults 20 years from now from my even bigger house in a more exclusive gated communnity when all you idiots are sitting around in hovels. Zundel? Who the fuck is Zundel? He deserves to rot in prison for 7 years for deenyin' the suffrin of my advertizers' & my woman's ancestors, I've done the reeeesearch folks, I know about that 6 million figure & especially them GAS CHAMBERS! It all adds up allright! YA!  Sabrosky? Who the hell is Sabrosky? Never heard of him! Listen to me ROTTHSCHILDD (GRR) , you're never gonna get away with this global warming tax!!  






This one is for Khanverse, Curt Maynard, the Muslim Brotherhood & all you bitch-ass CRACKAS out there:

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Here's a great song by a world-famous band with right-on anti-bankster lyrics

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"Psychiatrists and Lawyers destroying mankind
Drivin' 'em crazy...and stealing 'em blind
Bankers and Brokers ruling the world
Storing the silver and hoarding the gold
Ain't no use in preachers preaching
When they don't know what they're teaching
The weakest man be strong as Samson
When you're being held to ransom
Famine and hardship in true living colour
Constant reminders...the plight of our brother
Daily starvation our diet of news
Fed to the teeth with a barrage of views
Ain't no use in preachers preaching
When they don't know what they're teaching
The weakest man be strong as Samson
When you're being held to ransom
Black men and white men, and Arabs and Jews
Causing congestion and filling the queues
Fighting for freedom the truth and the word
Fighting the war for the end of the world
Ain't no use in preachers preaching
When they don't know what they're teaching
Weakest man be strong as Samson
When you're being held to ransom"


music & lyrics written by the two Mulatto Irishmen Gary Brooker & Keith Reid who know about such things  

http://community.livejournal.com/weirdjews/1887110.html

some ridiculous unnecessary fanboy detail here:

http://www.procolharum.com/tn+sq/ebaf_fn_strong.htm

jai_mann

Between Christopher Marlowe and Negentropic, I love the cynical posts. There's nothing like a little cynical humor to drive a point home.

Thanks again for going out there to demonstrate Christopher. I might recommend considering other places for such action in the future. It is no doubt a thorn in the Israeli's side to have people with such signs and messages outside of their embassy, but I think you'd reach more people with the message via other venues. Fuck those scumbags. I can't stand dishonest people nor people who create scenario's to get one honest group of people killing another honest group of people.

Christopher Marlowe

I've been thinking lately: we should do this at Every israeli embassy Everywhere on September 11.  

Every September 11, the intelligent people of the world should stand in front of the shitty little embassy and let them know that WE KNOW. I've been seeing online that a lot of people know about israel and 911.

Any thoughts?

Sh*thole Embassy in Miami, United States
Consulate General of Israel in Miami, United States of America
100 North Biscayne (Yitzhak Rabin) Boulevard
Suite 1800
Miami, Florida 33132
Phone: 305-925-9400
Fax: 305-925-9455

TerrorState Embassy in San Francisco, United States
Consulate General of Israel in San Francisco, United States of America
456 montgomery street,
suite 2100,
San Francisco, 94104
Phone: 415 - 844-7500
Fax: 415-844-7555

SelfishBastard Embassy in Chicago, United States
Consulate General of Israel in Chicago, United States of America
111 E. Wacker Dr., Suite 1308
Chicago, IL 60601
Phone: 312-297-4800
Fax: 312-297-4855

HomicidalManiac Embassy in Houston, United States
Consulate General of Israel in Houston, United States of America
24 Greenway Plaza,
Suite 1500 Houston,
Texas 77046
Phone: (713) 627-3780
Fax: (713) 627-0149

LyingSackofSh*t Embassy in Los Angeles, United States
Consulate General of Israel in Los Angeles, United States of America
6380 Wilshire blvd.
Los Angeles CA, 90048
Phone: (323)852-5500
Fax: (323)852-5555

LandStealing Embassy in Washington DC, United States
Embassy of Israel
3514 International Drive, NW,
Washington DC 20008
Phone: (202) 364-5500
Tel: (Visas and customs) (202) 364-5527 E-Mail: mailto:ask@israelemb.org">ask@israelemb.org

Usury Embassy in Atlanta, United States
Consulate General of Israel in Atlanta, United States of America
1100 Spring St., N.W. Suite 440
Atlanta, GA 30309-2823
Phone: (404) 487-6500
Fax: (404) 487-6555

DeathEater Embassy in Boston, United States
Consulate General of Israel in Boston, United States of America
20 Park Plaza, Suite 1020
Boston, MA 02116
Phone: (617) 535-0200
Fax: (617) 535-0255
And, as their wealth increaseth, so inclose
    Infinite riches in a little room

Ahmed

Protesting is a good call (like their real names btw :lol: )  

Lets hope there won't be too many more anniversaries to protest. Hopefully these Zionist Jew criminals and their enablers will  soon be bought to justice, given a fair trial (something their enemies could never hope for) and sentenced to death for crimes against humanity.

Its great that people are going tête-à-tête with the criminals, but you're right; organization is key, it's the difference between 12 people turning up and 1200 on their door, and IMO it has to be relentless on every forum 24/7 with a few specific points (e.g. Israel did 9/11, Rothschild, Talmudic-world government etc) driven home continuously:
Repetition, repetition, repetition.

All the financial talk is worth understanding but only a small percentage of people are going to get it and its never the most exciting subject in the world, again, just the basic idea has to be conveyed that the paper money scam is the biggest con in history.

Then, as I've said before; establish an internationalist vanguard to assume leadership positions and marginalize obfuscators. People don't really want to follow Alex Jones IMO, they only follow him because he puts himself out there as a self-styled leader (false modesty and all). When people are given a serious leadership, they'll see the shills and attention seekers for what they are.

Genrally speaking, I've seen a big change in people's attitudes over the last 5 years: The anti-Semitism label has lost all meaning, neo-Nazi groups (often in the employ of Zionist Jew linked organizations themselves) are no longer a factor in the debate and almost every other person knows Israel is an illegitimate, evil parasite with no place in our future.

A lot of work is still required, but Zionist Jews who thought their crimes would hasten Rothschild's Talmudic world government, now realize that they're even further away from their demented goal then they were to begin with.



"The world must declare all out war against Zionism and all who work on behalf of this criminal enterprise. These Zionists and Zionist Jews must be arrested, tried and when convicted, put to death for treason".

The Book Of Smith, Chapter 1. Verse 1

"If this hostility, even aversion, had only been shown towards the Jews at one period and in one country, it would be easy to unravel the limited causes of this anger, but this race has been hated by all peoples among whom it has established itself. It must be therefore, since the enemies of the Jews belonged to the most diverse races, lived in countries very distant from each other that the general cause of anti-Semitism has always resided in Israel itself and not in those who have fought against Israel."

Bernard Lazare, \'L'antisémitisme son histoire et ses causes\'.