On Ramsay’s Nameless War: A Dissenting View

[RoaminLam]

I've read a number of books from The French Connection website. Archibald Maule Ramsay's The Nameless War is the only one I've got serious issues with. Now Smith has it posted as an audio file, and just this last weekend, on July 11, he gave it a resounding endorsement in his joint broadcast with Muhammad Rafeeq: "absolutely off the hook in its accuracy .... there is not a single error in any of his analysis."

Excuse me, Daryl. But I beg to differ.

I've got no problem with Ramsay's take on history up to about the Versailles Treaty. After that, he goes seriously astray – specifically on the matter of Poland's resurrection and Germany's consequent loss of territory in the East.

Whatever injustices were perpetrated at Versailles, and however malevolent the design of its authors, reconstituting a sovereign Polish state after the First World War was a good and proper deed. It was not in any sense a gift at Germany's expense, nor were the Poles unworthy of their liberation. Being surrounded by more powerful, rapacious neighbors ought not disqualify a people of their natural rights.

Poland had been wiped off the map and subjected to bondage since the late 18th century, by German and Russian autocracies. This is not the kind of circumstance that people in the "truth" movement would be likely to support in any other context. Why, then, are the ill-gotten gains of German imperialism so sacrosanct in the revision of history that's emerging amidst all of our newfound "truths"?

If Ramsay is to be taken seriously in his concern that justice be afforded to Germans and Germany, he must demonstrate an equal concern for the rights of those unwillingly subjected to German rule as well. He does not. Real justice is blindfolded; Ramsay tips the scales shamefully. The argument he presents at the end of his book on the German-Polish conflict is totally one sided; it's fundamentally specious to boot.

Complaining that many Germans had to live inside the reborn Polish republic is a biased argument. An equal or larger number of Poles wound up living on the German side of the post-war borders. Where is Ramsay's concern about this presumable injustice?

Fact is, ethnicities in the entire region that had for centuries belonged to Poland were mingled with great complexity, including countless families that were intermarried and countless individuals who spoke more than one language. No border could have been drawn through the region that would have put all members of this or that ethnicity neatly on one side or another – ignoring the fact that many people were happily multi-ethnic. Nor is there any good reason why people ought to be so segregated. We have often enough lived quite well in proximity to others unlike ourselves. Most progress, and most of what's most enriching to our lives, has at some time filtered across the membranes that separate one culture from another.

Fact is, drawing such divisions, while stirring up grievance and animosity on their basis, is the work of demagogues and war mongers – exactly the kind of agents our "truth" movement purports to be against. Why do these arguments obtain such noteworthy purchase in the case of German claims on Polish lands during the Hitler period? This is truly a major anomaly on our discussion boards.

That the German minority was oppressed in Poland during the pre-war period is an insolent lie of German propaganda. The Germans had an aggressive fifth column in Poland from the start – as did the Soviets – stirring up trouble and creating provocations. That's the essence of what was going on. Who was excessive, who was belligerent, and who was grievously oppressed by whom – the truth here is exactly the opposite of what's presented as the Imperial German Chauvinist Position, a notable expression of which is contained in the "German White Book" appended to Ramsay's text.

By March of 1939, it was clear that Poland would not compromise its independence or accept German vassal status. At this point, Hitler ordered plans for an invasion to be drawn up. All of the later diplomatic wrangling that led to Germany's aggression was a smoke screen searching for a pretext – and all of the arguments we hear today about how unreasonably Poland rejected Germany's "reasonable" demands are another thick and fluffy snow job. Hitler's strident claims against Poland were not acceptable, nor were they intended to be. Ramsay's concern for justice in this context is perfectly false and hypocritical. Daryl Smith is smart and well informed enough to understand this. Why doesn't he?

Same for the infamous "Polish corridor." If Poland was going to be viable, it required free access to the sea, i.e., port facilities not in the hands of its former imperial master Germany. If that little strip of land which separated East Prussia from the rest of Germany was an affront to belligerent German chauvinists, too bad. No material harm was done to anyone by its existence. Has anyone ever noticed that there's a very large "Canadian corridor" between Alaska and the mainland USA? Funny, I've never heard that we were ever troubled by it. Such "corridors" as this become intolerable when demagogues like Hitler make an issue of them, and when they find the followers they need to help them stir up conflict.

The essence of the matter is that these "issues" were trumped up by Germany. In fact, nothing would have satisfied the Nazi aggressors. That's how all complaints from this period about the insufferable "Polish border" need to be understood. "Polish border" is in fact a type of code word. The real problem was that there was any "Polish border" at all. I.e., only when Poland was again rubbed out would the Imperial German Chauvinists be satisfied.

Readers of this forum understand that FDR intended to get the US into the war, and that our policies in East Asia were aimed at engineering a Japanese attack that would supply the needed pretext. Hitler's demands on Poland, following the dismemberment of Czechoslovakia, were every bit as Machiavellian. There was nothing "reasonable" about them. Anyone who thinks otherwise is either deluded or just as conniving as Hitler and FDR.

Smith ought to know better. Why is he peddling this noxious nonsense so aggressively?

It's well known that the English upper classes in the 1930s and 40s included many Nazi sympathizers. A.M. Ramsay was one of them. Too bad he went to jail for being so bold as to express his views, a bit too publicly perhaps and at the wrong moment. I presume it was his critique of the Jews – not his anti-Polish stance in the German-Polish dispute – that got him into trouble. In any case, by 1941 the British government itself had become anti-Polish, though not yet overtly so, effectively replacing Germany as guarantor to Stalin's annexation of eastern Poland under the Nazi-Soviet pact of 1939.

Be that as it may, do please note that before the war was over, Ramsay got out of prison and returned to his former high class life, including his seat in Parliament. In other words, he was handled with kid gloves. Such was the lot of outspoken, pro-Nazi British aristocrats in time of war. I'm sure that prison life, as Ramsay knew it, would have been envied by the many anti-Nazi Polish patriots who fell into German or Russian hands.

Speaking of the mistreatment to which Germans were subjected throughout the World War II period, Smith mentioned – in this same, most recent audio file – the mass murder under Eisenhower of a million German POWs after hostilities had ceased. This is not an issue I've spent much time investigating, but I'm not prepared to take it as factual merely on Smith's authority.

This is not to say that I don't regard Eisenhower as capable of such a deed. His loathsome rise to eminence is well portrayed in another of the books available to readers of The French Connection (Barbarians Inside the Gates). It's just that it's a bit too fantastic to accept without a lot more basis than I've seen.

This alleged atrocity has only entered public discourse in the last few years. Why did we never hear about an event of such magnitude before? Is it because the Germans are too shy, or too controlled, to bring it up? That's hard to believe. Surely they would not be ignorant, if this were really true. I grew up in a heavily German Midwestern town, when memories of the war were fresh. Many were outspoken about their wartime sympathies for Germany, and anything but reserved on the theme of German grievances. Yet I never heard any mention of mass murder by the Western Powers of German POWs.

Since discovering Smith's website four years ago, I've invested more time and credence there than in any other six websites combined. I must say, however, that Smith's unreserved and aggressive promotion of the Ramsay document has given me serious pause. Likewise the **certainty** with which he spoke of this alleged Western atrocity against captured German soldiers. While I am willing to keep an open mind, the event seems anything but likely.

By way of contrast, I take it as factual that reprisals against German leadership – in the West at least – were very minor, that the mid and upper echelon people who ran Germany for Hitler pretty much continued in the same positions they'd occupied earlier, after Western Germany became a member of the post-war West. Fewer than a dozen men were hung at Nuremberg. I am not bloodthirsty or vindictive, but in light of Germany's aggression on every side; also relative to German savagery, above all in the Slavic East, the German ruling classes basically got off scott free.

I take it as factual that something like a "Ratline" was run, from the highest levels in the West, to get German war criminals and their families out of harm's way in the aftermath of Germany's defeat. How else could someone like Eichmann get to South America, where he was kidnapped by Israeli agents some twenty years later? He was hardly alone. I suspect that the anti-insurgency expertise possessed by many of these killers, if not their sentimental cachet, or their "superior" value as biological stock, were a priority to certain elements at the highest levels on the winning side – wherever those murky circles really were that "won" the war.

I take it as factual that wartime German elites were imported to the USA in large numbers immediately following the war. The US Army facility at Huntsville, Alabama, was thick with them. The entire Nazi eastern front intelligence apparatus, run by Reinhard Gehlen, the "spy of the century," was grafted onto the CIA – or maybe it was the other way around – about the time the CIA morphed out of the OSS. The Nazi rocket scientists were notorious. Even when I was growing up in the 1950s, everyone knew about Werner von Braun. How many tens of thousands of unfortunate – mostly Slavic – POWs were worked to death as slave laborers in places like Peenemunde, at the behest of men like von Braun and his distinguished colleagues? Our NASA program was built up by people like this ... which ultimately gave us the phony Moon landing, and Star Wars, and so much else that we'd have been better off without.

I just happen to be reading a little classic at the moment – None Dare Call It Conspiracy, by Gary Allen. Though published almost 40 years ago, its argument is very consistent with the case for diabolical subversion, spanning roughly the last century, that's been so exhaustively developed by Daryl Smith and his many well-informed guests at The French Connection. On page 95 of Allen's book, there's a photograph of Prince Bernard of the Netherlands conferring with President Nixon. In reference to his experience as a Nazi SS storm trooper during World War II, Bernard – head of the clandestine New World Order Bilderberg group around 1970 – claimed, "we had a lot of fun."  

I wouldn't doubt that average Germans – POWs and civilians alike – suffered abuse at the hands of their foes, both during and after the war. I wouldn't condone it either, whatever the real numbers might be, but I suspect that focusing on such issues today is a device of some nefarious psychological warfare campaign waged against thinking people like us. As usual, the real business is going on someplace else. What we ought to be more focused on is the criminals who ran an utterly disastrous war for Germany, and did terrible things to people in neighboring countries, then blithely moved on to other assignments, or perhaps just a comfortable, well-earned retirement, when their work in Europe was done. Peons like us can tear each other's throats out by the millions, on the basis of our ethnicity, whereas these privileged elites, like A.M. Ramsay, as a rule suffer little real harm regardless of which nation they ostensibly served (or betrayed) in the last "great" war.

Readers of this forum are all too familiar with how Zionist Jews have infiltrated our institutions over many years. FDR brought loads of these vermin on board. It's curious, though, how many Nazis were likewise seeded, in much the same fashion, into elite positions in our country and its empire, e.g., Latin America, during the postwar era.

There is surely much that we don't understand about the Second World War. Certainly immense deceptions have been practiced on the public mind in all or most participating countries. More and more our eyes are opening up to this, and it's quite an intriguing puzzle.  I suspect that one of the keys to understanding what was really going on is that the opposition between Jews and Germans, or Zionists and Nazis, is much less absolute than we've been encouraged to believe. I detect that both of these groups have been heavily represented in the treasonably corrupted US power structure, if not elsewhere too.

Smith at least does not inveigle us into the travesty of making a hero out of Hitler, as so many other leaders in the "truth" movement do. Evidently he's been exposed to Jim Condit's documentary, "The Final Solution to Adolph Hitler," as his July 11 broadcast contains much information from that source. I wonder why he didn't credit Condit for such a treasure trove of useful facts.

Again, however, Smith speaks with too much certainty when he insists that Hitler was a Jew. Condit's bottom line is that Hitler was an "enigma." He presents compelling evidence that Hitler had, at least, one Jewish grandfather. But in the final analysis, we really don't know. Smith is too quick with his certainty. And maybe Hitler's Jewishness is not all that important anyway. What matters is Hitler's authentic role, within the bigger picture. Condit makes an excellent case for his thesis that the real movers and shakers of the Second World War were not the famous wartime leaders, but unknown figures operating from the shadows. Adolph Hitler, knowingly or not, within this larger game was just a pawn.

This is where the real breakthrough in understanding comes. The war – in terms of its real, underlying purposes and definition – was not what we perceived it to be at all. This is another reason why A.M. Ramsay fails in his analysis of the WW II period: his partisanship for Germany misses all of the stunning insight that Condit has to offer.

Smith understands that the international bankers funded Hitler's rise and subsidized the rearming of Germany. He understands – as does Condit – that their real aim was to engineer another bloody cataclysm, to destroy the best and finest of all the nations, without much discriminating. Then, out of the resulting chaos, they would build their New World Order. How is it, then, that Smith buys into Ramsay's defense of Hitler's flimsily contrived pretexts for invading and annihilating Poland? This doesn't make any sense to me at all.

Advocates for the Imperial German Chauvinist Position in the German-Polish conflict, which sparked the second major conflagration in Europe, will often pretend that they don't know about, or will studiously ignore, German atrocities against the Polish nation. When assertions to this effect are made, occasionally the more open minded of their devoted acolytes will ask for proof. This is a bit like requesting proof that there's a large body of water between San Francisco and Tokyo. Just ask any Polish family.

But it's a fact that people in the West, with little access to Polish families, know Polish history largely through reports passed on by hostile parties, either those of the German chauvinist persuasion, which we hear all too much from in the "truth" forums these days, or those of Jewish establishment types, like the journalist who wrote, as follows, on the recent extradition of Uri Brodsky from Poland to Germany http://www.debbieschlussel.com/24366/19 ... amas-case/

Daryl Smith ought to know better, but it may be understandable if he doesn't. Others, whose knowledge scarcely approaches that of Smith, can likewise be forgiven. Patience is indicated.

So here is a bit of substance on German butchery in Poland during the Second World War – an injustice that could scarcely elicit more callously studied indifference on the part of such advocates for justice as A.M. Ramsay, "Brother" Nathanael Kapner, M.C. Piper, Rick Adams and all too many of the other leading voices in today's "truth" movement. I still hold out faith that Smith is not one of the many mind goons deliberately leading us astray, and that grassroots members of this forum are here because they hold principle above ethnic affiliation, and favor reasoned argument to emotional appeal.

For starters, check out the (unanswered) personal letter that caller Darius of Phoenix emailed to Rick Adams, following our conversation on air last May 5. It's appended to my "Varmint Watch" piece on Adams, posted May 16th at this forum. It would be hard to doubt that the letter is genuine, or to question the character of its author; it could scarcely be more heartrending and horrifying.

A good general overview of the period, which can be read in less than an hour, is available here:
http://www.piastinstitute.org/assets/li ... wski_t.pdf
For those who care to explore further, there's a decent bibliography of about two dozen sources at the end.

One of the books in this bibliography, Poland's Holocaust by Piotrowski, begins its second chapter, "Nazi Terror," with the following succinct overview: "If the Germans, in comparison with the Soviets, were inexperienced in wholesale political terror in September 1939, by the time of their invasion of the USSR they had learned a great deal. In fact, the Germans not only caught up to the Russians but soon surpassed them."

A word of caution is in order. The much-neglected Polish history of World War II will aggravate habitués of our "truth" forums on one account at least.

Outside the US, the world's largest Jewish population resided in pre-war Poland. Hence, there is much that overlaps in the wartime memories of these two peoples. Yet bitter controversy abounds. Also worth reading in this connection, or at least knowing about – and not listed in the pdf. file above – is a small volume by Stefan Korbonski, former head of the Polish Underground, reviewed here at amazon
http://www.amazon.com/Jews-Poles-World- ... 689&sr=1-1

The contemporary American historian Marek Chodakiewicz has also persuasively represented a Polish perspective on this fiercely contested wartime history, where the Jewish establishment enjoys vastly greater scope in propagating what it wants the disinterested public to believe. Much of Chodakiewicz's work has not been translated, but one of his books in English is sold (and reviewed) on amazon
http://www.amazon.com/After-Holocaust-P ... 013&sr=1-2

That being said, what you will be hard pressed to find – in any Polish sources – are denials that the mass murder of Jews, under German auspices, took place (leaving aside all questions regarding the sacred numerology of six million). This view has become so widely accepted in the "truth" movement that I hesitate to contest it, but it has to be done. This is just another reason for honest Truth seekers to make a foray into the exotic perspective of Polish experience in the Second World War. Truly, there's much more for you to learn in this domain than there is from the likes of Archibald Maule Ramsay.

The real hoax is the "holohoax" meme itself. The joke's on you, "truth" teller. But that may take some time for you to wrap your brain around. Be patient. No one who's honest about exploring this period has any excuse for avoiding the Polish sources any longer. Albeit many have not been translated, and never will be, there's still abundant material available in English.

Undoubtedly there remain colossal hoaxes and deceptions related to our understanding of the Second World War. The mass murder of Jews, however, is not one of them, albeit disgraceful exploitation and humbuggery attend to it. Choosing sides in the loudest and gaudiest controversies is seldom likely to advance the cause of Truth. We ought to know that by now, and we ought to be casting our gaze beyond the conspicuous polemics of "Holocaust denial," as it's presented both in and out of the "truth" movement. The deeper and more fruitful truths, as usual, are hidden someplace outside the box, turning up at last in the kind of thinking Jim Condit has put forth, and Daryl Smith has alluded to in his most recent broadcast.

Given all the Nazi propaganda that's being recycled, handed to us on a platter, it might make sense for thinking people to have a look at what the Nazi's first and foremost targets had to say about the conflict, especially as their perspective has been so conspicuously ignored.

If the average, decent, unprejudiced "truth" seeker were asked, hypothetically, to allocate his sympathy between two opposing countries at the start of a long and terrible war, based on the following information, wouldn't the choice be obvious?

•   G – in alliance with Soviet Russia (R) – attacked P.
•   P had recently emerged from well over a century of brutal colonial subjugation to the monarchical precursor states of G and R.
•   International bankers had devised and funded the Soviet takeover of R.
•   P had been victorious in a war with R, 20 years before the war in question began.
•   International bankers funded the military buildup of G.
•   In the year prior to its invasion, G outspent P on military preparations by a factor of more than 80 to 1.
•   G spent ten times more on her air force alone than P did on her entire military establishment.
•   G was a heavily industrialized country with twice the population of P.
•   G was relatively homogeneous, while P was exposed to destabilization through her large and restive minorities.
•   P was one of the poorest and most backward countries on the continent, already war ravaged in a way that G was not, having been a principle battlefield of the previous world war, welded together in its aftermath from three long-separated parts.
•   The Great Powers ostensibly allied with P, and committed to supporting her if attacked, did nothing, despite having a powerful army on G's undefended western border.
•   P raised and maintained her own military establishment, largely through the extraordinary commitment of her citizens to defend their precious, hard-won liberty.

In light of this, if nothing more, it's hard to understand why so many in our "truth" movement find the police state Nazi Germany so appealing, while the case for Poland elicits merely a profound disdain.

It's also puzzling that so many US patriot types, who show much propensity these days for hearkening back to our late lamented Constitution, have greater sympathy for Germany, with its far more autocratic tradition, than for Poland, which was the second country in the world after the United States to have a written constitution. Significantly, this entailed a society in which the principle of government accountability to the people held sway, no doubt an important factor in why the German and Russian autocracies worked as hard as they did to suppress Polish independence.

Much else could be said along these lines, but I hope this will suffice to cast serious doubt on the anti-Polish, World War II era material in Ramsay's book The Nameless War. And I hope Daryl Smith will be motivated to reconsider his unqualified endorsement of Ramsay's argument.

[kolnidre]

I never understood why Von Braun seems to get such a pass, almost like he's untouchable. He's even portrayed as a great hero in the Hollyweird film October Sky.

Recently I heard an interview with the director of photography at NASA from the mid-60s through some time in the 70s when he retired from the Air Force and went to work for Kodak. He encountered Von Braun only a few times and WVB only spoke directly to him once, simply informing him exactly what type and size photographs he wanted taken of a space mission launch.

This post was informative and better measured than previous ones, but still too long. I doubt I'm alone in preferring shorter posts on forums that people can respond too, whereas a massive data dump like this can be overwhelming. It's not about dumbing down or simplifying the content unnecessarily, but encouraging people to digest what is said and to respond with their own reflections and feedback.

[Roy Hobs]

Outside the US, the world's largest Jewish population resided in pre-war Poland.


Good reason for Hitler's Germany to be concerned with Poland.  Hitler wanted the Jews out of Germany.  Madagascar was the hope -- next door probably didn't seem far enough.  

Check out Carolyn Yeager's work over at www.vornetwork.com

Hard to believe Hitler and Hitler's Germany were monsters as you claim them to be.

[Roy Hobs]

In regards to "None Dare Call it Conspiracy"............

Not sure I would call it a "Classic".  

From the Back Cover -- "Since people of the Jewish faith have been the number one historical victims of the Communist Conspiracy, we wish every member of our faith woudl carefully read this book so they will become aware of the forces which often attempt to manipulate them."  Dr. Barney Finkel - President, The Jewish Right

Ummm.....................not sure an endorsement from a Jew is good propaganda for a Legitimate work on the Talmudic/Jewish Conspiracy.  

In fact, this endorsement is a detraction from the Conspiracy!  Such irony.  Jews have been "the number one historical victim" of Communism?  Are you out of your mind!!!???  

Certainly innocent jews have been victims, but to put them on the level as the number one victim?  Wow.

This kind of comment promotes the idea of kicking out the Zionist wire pullers and leaving the rest of the jews behind.  Guess what???  100 years later.......you'll have to do it all over again.

Getting off track...............

Another quote from the Book --

"One major reason for the historical blackout on the role of the international bankers in political history is that the Rothschilds were jewish.  Anti-semites have played into the hands of the conspiracy by trying to portray the entire conspiracy as jewish.  NOTHING COULD BE FARTHER FROM THE TRUTH." Page 39

Nothing could be FARTHER from the truth?!!!!!!!!!!  

And I have yet to meet an "anti-Semite" who is an 'anti-semite' for no good reason.  

Page 40, Allen writes, "as a group, jews have suffered most at the hands of these power seekers".  

I could go on and on on this book.  I about threw it out of my hotel window at the time when I read it.  And if I quote any more quotes like the one above, I'm really going to damage the book something fierce.  


Gary Allen is the Alex Jones of the 1970's.    Henry Ford is rolling in his grave on this guy!

Skip on the book dude.  

Also.............I don't think Daryl's endorsement of Ramsay has anything to do with an in depth analysis of history.  It is an easy to read, easy to understand "Primer", if you will, of the Jewish problem.  Period.  It is the kind of book that I am looking for to hand out to people who know nothing of the powers who wish us dead or starving.  Try handing Larry MacDonald's book "The Culture of Critique" to a Newbee!  

I recently purchased another great "intro" if you will -- Arnold Leese, "The Jewish War for Survival".  Short, concise, well documented.  Great Primer.

[RoaminLam]

Roy,

Carolyn Yaeger is a lightweight. I've heard her on Mike Piper's show and exchanged polemics with her Online. Promoting spokes-ladies of her caliber is yet another indication of how weak the Imperial German Chauvinist argument, vis-a-vis Poland, truly is.

You may have missed the – important – point I was making when I cited Gary Allen.

Nevertheless, your case about the Jewish memes in Allen's book is well taken. But I think you have to read between the lines.

Throughout the text he mentions abundant Jewish names in connection with the conspiracy. You also have to consider that Jews may be just one element of what we're looking at, albeit a central one. I have reached no firm conclusions about that; the matter is very broad and difficult. I also consider it a fact that millions of Jews were wasted in the Second World War. There are Jews and there are Jews. The deceptions we're exploring are nuanced and complex.

Allen makes a stupid comment about Columbus early in the book. Views on the "great explorer" have shifted considerably since Allen received his education. This is the power of "big lies"; we all give them currency to some extent, despite our best efforts. Allen was doubtless just repeating something he'd always heard and never questioned.

The same may apply to his line on the Jews. In any case, if you set this reservation aside, the broad outlines of conspiracy he provides are very close to what we've turned up in our own, more recent investigations. Where do you ever find a source that's right on every particular? We're forever picking and choosing – and setting each other straight – with even the best of our sources.

Speaking of which, it's Kevin MacDonald, not Larry. And now I have to contradict what I just said: I've encountered nothing in his extensive writings that I'd quibble about. C of C was the first book of his I read, maybe half a dozen years ago. I still think it was one of the biggest eye-openers I ever got.

And you're right – I don't know how you communicate substance like this with beginners. Handing it to them on a platter is almost always a waste. I don't know how you make people care either; so many don't. I guess you just have to be patient, and persistent. Remember too that it doesn't take a majority. 3 to 5% would be enough for us to win.

Finally, the anti-Polish discussion is a major part of Ramsay's book. I agree that his earlier chapters are valuable, especially since they're so concise and comprehensive. But the material I objected to is so widely accepted in our community, while the perspective which debunks it is so absent here, and has so much to contribute to our understanding of this period – perhaps also to how we might deal with our plight today – that DB Smith's **unreserved** endorsement of The Nameless War required challenging.

Bob

[CrackSmokeRepublican]

I pick apart one point on your analysis RoaminLam which I find a bit errant in many areas. I think Roy above is correct "In a 100 years.... it will happen again... kind of like Jews and the election of Obama or David Dinkins... "

1. James Jesus Angleton, an OSS agent operating from Italy and basically created "Ratlines" to ferry Germans to Argentina. Britain also had Ratlines as well. For expected American protection of the Catholic Church in Italy from Communists and Soviet agitators, they worked with the US OSS agents to get top Nazis out.  Remember, Angleton was a Zionist and a Crypto-Jew who worked for Wallstreet and the "Banking elite" (Jew talk for Jew Bankers). He trained the Mossad in the late 1940s.  The OSS Ratline team wanted German tech but the ultimate goal was not to have it to stop the Russians, but to get it eventually to Israel. Robert Maxwell was one of those Jews selling German patents to Jews globally after WWII.    

2. Everyone at the table at Versailles saw that the Jewish manipulators there wanted to trumpet the League of Nations and every nation will get their respective country and "freedom".  The Jews didn't give a "Ratliners" ass about Poland or the Polish at Versailles, including all remnants of Austro-Hungarian Empire, in fact it is like NeoCon Jews supporting the Kurds today -- simply Jew lies and promises.  They only wanted to set up the stage for creating Israel.  Getting the remaining Kings of Europe deposed was the objective of WWI for the Jews. This would settle what Napoleon had started with his Masonic Jews behind the scenes.

3. Bismarck sums up the Polish question better than anyone:
http://www.h-net.org/~german/gtext/kais ... peech.html

4. Germans, Russians, Italians, Brits, Americans all had guilt for slaughters, the murder of innocents, and slave labor in WWII. Germany particularly in the East. In the Eastern front the war was somewhat "imperial" but also an action to eliminate the "Soviet" threat for Europe. Russia was set to invade Poland-Germany and Eastern Europe before Germany struck first.  Uniting the Germans of Europe after the Napoleonic wars came largely at Russia's, Poland's and Austria's territorial expense. Most of Europe post WWI saw Poland as just another territory that could act as a buffer against Soviet attacks on Europe.  

5. Poles had insurrections and murders of Germans throughout the 1800s. And in 1939 with the same conflicting "accounts" both unofficial and official:

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bromberger_Blutsonntag

The "Bromberg Bloody Sunday" was an event on the third The "Bromberg Bloody Sunday" was an event on 3 September 1939, in which a Considerable number of the Polish Corridor since 1918 in the town of Bromberg / Bydgoszcz resident Indians killed. September 1939, in which a significant number of the located in the city since 1918 in the Polish Corridor Bromberg / Bydgoszcz resident Germans killed. This was two days after the attack of the German Wehrmacht against Poland instead. This took place two days after the attack the German army against Poland. The testimony of the historians on the number of dead vary varied considerably, and in support of the events there are contradictory statements. The testimony of the historians on the number of dead vary considerably, and in support of the events there are contradictory statements.

The event took place against the background of open and latent tensions between the young Republic of Poland, a majority of its Polish population and the numerically strong German minority with. The event took place against the background of open and latent tensions between the young Republic of Poland with its predominantly Polish population and the numerically strong German minority. The lost World War I and the major territorial concessions were among the German people even more than with the German Reich feelings of deep hurt and led to treatment unfair. The lost World War I and the major territorial concessions had resulted in the ethnic Germans even more than with the German Reich to feelings of deep humiliation and unfair treatment. Poland was for centuries under the influence of its powerful neighbors suffered. Poland had suffered for centuries under the influence of its powerful neighbors. Large parts of the Polish population were of German minority, at least suspicious. Large parts of the Polish population were against the German minority, at least suspicious.
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    * An official investigation by the German authorities, an official investigation of the 1939/40 German authorities 1939/40
    * 2 Official Official Polish Polish studies two studies
    * Three fatalities and several explanations three fatalities and several explanations
    * 4 4 Nazi propaganda Nazi propaganda
    * 5 References 5 References
          See also o 1.5 5.1 See also
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[Edit] Official investigation of the German authorities 1939/40 [edit] Official investigation of the German authorities 1939/40

One of the German Wehrmacht investigative body (Wust) carried out investigation into the events in Bydgoszcz included a survey of captive Polish soldiers, to ethnic German from Bydgoszcz and environs, and the survey of Polish civilians on the incidents on a 3 by German Wehrmacht study site (Wust) made investigation of the events in Bydgoszcz joined a survey of captive Polish soldiers, ethnic German from Bydgoszcz and environs, and the survey of Polish civilians on the incidents on 3 September 1939. September 1939.

The legal medical Gerhart Panning, under the head of the pathological department of the Academy of Military Medical Gerhart Panning 1, the legal director, in the context of the pathological department of the Academy of Military 1 May 1938 newly created court-medical examination body [1], led of May 21, 1938 newly created court-medical examination body [1], led of 21 September to 6 September to 6 Dezember 1939 133 sections and 11 at autopsy exhumed by. Dezember 1939 133 sections and 11 at autopsy exhumed by. The aim was to identify the victims, the causes of death and the murder weapon, but in particular the extent to which the Polish military guns shot wounds were caused. was [2] [3] Such identification of the victims, the causes of death and the murder weapon, but in particular the extent to which Polish military rifles, the bullet wounds were caused. [2] [3]

The interrogation of a Polish deputy sergeant was under German documents that the Bromberg stationed at the Polish troops, as a result of a city to be heard shooting, a patrol in the city had sent out the order to clarify the situation. The interrogation of a Polish deputy sergeant was under German documents that the Polish troops stationed in Bydgoszcz, as a result would have been sent out of town to be heard shooting, a patrol into the village in order to clarify the situation. At a final meeting informed the battalion commander, Major Slawinski, with his soldiers that no acts of sabotage or attacks have been identified by German nationals and instead retreating parts of the 9 final at a meeting said the battalion commander, Major Slawinski, with his soldiers, that no acts of sabotage or attacks have been identified by German nationals and instead retreating parts of the 9 and 27 and 27 Polish Infantry Division had fired. Polish Infantry Division had fired.

Judicial interviews with witnesses in the months after the incidents were often the participation of individual soldiers in Polish uniforms to murder. Judicial interviews with witnesses in the months after the incidents were often the participation of individual soldiers in Polish uniforms to murder. In these cases, the soldiers from civilians to the houses of ethnic Germans were led, from which shots were allegedly killed. In these cases, the soldiers from civilians to the houses of ethnic Germans were led, from which shots were allegedly killed. In particular, adult, male residents were allegedly killed after these statements by the soldiers, even if no weapons were found or if the accused did not act threatening or otherwise suspicious. In particular, adult, male residents were allegedly killed after these statements by the soldiers, even if no weapons were found or if the accused did not act threatening or otherwise suspicious.

The resulting panic, which is by German air raids and was fanned by the disordered parts of the city drawn Polish army units, then eventually the climate have created in where most killings and ill-treatment by Polish civilians and soldiers against ethnic Germans. The resulting panic, which is by German air raids and was fanned by the disordered parts of the city drawn Polish army units, then eventually the climate have created in where most killings and ill-treatment by Polish civilians and soldiers against ethnic Germans. Forensic examinations of victims documented by German authorities Subsequently, some severe mutilation of the bodies. [4] forensic examinations of victims documented by the German authorities and then some serious mutilation of the bodies. [4]
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According to a witness against 16 British were retreating on the clock parts of a Polish artillery unit during passage from the "German House" shot out. According to a British witness against 16 were on the clock retreating parts of a Polish artillery unit during passage from the "German House" shot out. They returned fire, but were shortly afterwards from the Tower of the Jesuit Church in Bydgoszcz from then taken under fire. They returned fire, but were shortly afterwards from the Tower of the Jesuit Church in Bydgoszcz from also taken under fire. Every civilian, in which a weapon was found, should have been shot by the soldiers afterwards. Every civilian, in which a weapon was found, should have been shot by the soldiers afterwards. Part of the German and Polish civilian population had fled into the woods. Part of the German and Polish civilian population had fled into the woods. The place had been under German air attacks while standing. [5] The city had meanwhile been under constant German air raids. [5]

Official Polish sources stated later, there were 238 Polish soldiers and 223 "members of a fifth column" had been killed. Official Polish sources stated later, there were 238 Polish soldiers and 223 "members of a fifth column" had been killed. On subsequent reprisal by the Nazis were killed and 10 500 Poland 13.000 in concentration camps were abducted. On subsequent reprisals by the Nazis had killed 10,500 Poles and 13,000 were deported to concentration camps.

The Polish Institute of National Remembrance (IPN) in June 2004, the investigation of the events in Bydgoszcz between 3 The Polish Institute of National Remembrance (IPN) in June 2004, the investigation of the events in Bydgoszcz between 3 and 5 and 5 September 1939 was added. September 1939 was added. Based on new documents and archival sources, it was found that Polish troops from defensive agents and members of the German minority were fired. Based on new documents and archival sources, it was found that Polish troops of defensive agents and members of the German minority were fired. This 40-50 Polish soldiers were killed. This 40-50 Polish soldiers were killed. The following pogrom were estimated on the city of Bydgoszcz 100-300 German inhabitants killed. [6] The following pogrom were estimated on the city of Bydgoszcz 100-300 German inhabitants killed. [6]
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No one would dispute that was shot in Bydgoszcz. No one would dispute that was shot in Bydgoszcz. Is disputed, however, and to whom it was German or Polish Whether partisans provocateurs. Is disputed, however, to whom and whether it was German or Polish partisans provocateurs. A not exactly to be determined number of Germans were killed in that context. A not exactly to be determined number of Germans were killed in that context.

Christian Zentner writes, the Polish military commander of Bromberg massacre of several thousand had commanded a German Bromberger. 7 [] Hugo Rasmus - a native Bromberger has - List of Germans killed in the city of Bydgoszcz created one. Christian Zentner writes, the Polish military commander of Bromberg had ordered a massacre of several thousand German Bromberg. [7] Hugo Rasmus - a native of Bydgoszcz - has created a list of those murdered in the city of Bydgoszcz Germans. This list contains the names of 358 people, including 39 women and 55 old people. This list contains the names of 358 people, including 39 women and 55 old people. Not included here are the murder victims of the surrounding villages and Bromberg in the other parts of the country of Poland. Not included here are the murder victims of the surrounding villages and Bromberg in the other parts of the country of Poland. The author Bernhard Linde sheet writ of "more than 1.000 Germans," the third in this, the author Bernhard Linde sheet writ of "more than 1,000 Germans," the third in this were killed in September and at Bromberg. were killed in September and at Bromberg. In summary, data are moving beyond the number of ethnic German victims in the literature, mostly 700-1200 people. [8] The variations arise in circumstances often out of the question of Whether only the victims of city Bromberg were even counted in, or Whether one the victims in the surrounding communities involves. Overall, the data moving on the number of ethnic German victims in the literature, mostly 700-1200 people. [8], the fluctuations often arise in circumstances from the question of whether the victims were only counted in the city of Bydgoszcz, or whether this includes the victims in the surrounding communities.

There have been awarded by the National Socialists, no awards or other honors to members of military units or special units for actions in the period in question in the space at Bromberg and all the regular presence of German troops in the area on 3 Because of the National Socialists no awards or other honors to members of military units or special units for actions in the period in question were awarded in the area of Bydgoszcz and at all the regular presence of German troops in the area on 3 September 1939 show so far been impossible, is the involvement of SS or Wehrmacht, the killings by most historians to be excluded. September 1939 show so far been impossible, is excluded the involvement of SS or Wehrmacht in the killings by most historians. Jürgen Runzheimer has this to say that there is any evidence to give, that this is such a provocation of the German SD could have acted. [9] This view contradict recent results of the IPN, which an employee of the Defense Agency Szczecin among the victims wish to have detected. [6] the documents found on planned and possible acts of sabotage and attacks of the German defense, which originated in pre-war tensions, were the result leaves from the presence of German provocateurs not in Bydgoszcz after Erich Kuby rule. [10] Jürgen Runzheimer has this to say that there was no evidence that it may have been here about a provocation of the German SD. [9] contradict this view, recent results of the IPN, which an employee of the Defense Agency to Stettin have identified among the victims. [6] From the documents found on planned and possible acts of sabotage and attacks of the German defense, which had emerged during the pre-war tensions, can be the presence of German provocateurs in Bydgoszcz not rule out even after Erich Kuby. [10]

The riots in Bydgoszcz are part of the Polish attacks on German minority in Poland at the beginning of the Polish campaign. The riots in Bydgoszcz are part of the Polish attacks on German minority in Poland, at the beginning of the Polish campaign. In a documentation of the Foreign Office in November 1939 Poland was the total number during the events of the murdered members of the German minority in 5437 death mentioned. [9] Hans Roos speaks of a total of 7.000 dead. [11] are now more historians has concluded that a total of nearly 4.000 German nationals were killed, of which 1200 to 1500 in Bydgoszcz. [12] The documentation of the Foreign Office in November 1939, the total number of killed during these events, members of the German minority in Poland indicated with 5437 dead. [9] Hans Roos speaks of a total of 7,000 dead. [11] Meanwhile, another historian has concluded that a total of nearly 4,000 German nationals were killed, of which in Bydgoszcz 1200-1500. [12]

    "Mass arrests after the prepared lists, unplanned marches, on which were mainly the elderly and children the hardships victims, executions, murders and arson were commonplace." Mass arrests after the prepared lists, unplanned marches, in which mainly the elderly and children to the hardships were victims, executions, murders and arson were common. The highlight was the infamous, Bromberg Bloody Sunday 'on 3 The highlight was the infamous, Bromberg Bloody Sunday' on 3 September, when about 1.000 German under the pretext that they had fired on Polish troops were killed. September, when about 1,000 German under the pretext that they had fired on Polish troops were killed. Overall, some 13.000 German nationals were killed. Overall, some 13,000 German nationals were killed. Later excesses of the Nazi propaganda led to reports that the actual events of all international met with disbelief. "[13] later excesses of the Nazi propaganda led to international reports on the actual events ever met with disbelief." [13]

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Victims of the Bromberg Bloody Sunday, recording of Heinz Fremke victims of the Bromberg Bloody Sunday, recording of Heinz Fremke

For the Nazi propaganda events proved to be in and around Bydgoszcz events as the war policies and the crackdown against the Polish population of its own people and to justify to foreign countries. The most popular work, the events shown in and around Bydgoszcz events as the war policies and the crackdown against the Polish population of its own people and to justify to foreign countries. Reich Minister Goebbels invited foreign journalists in order to give them the opportunity, even to document human rights violations. Reich Minister Goebbels invited foreign journalists to give them the opportunity to document human rights violations themselves. The number of victims of ethnic Germans in Poland, the foreign press should be notified, were official instructions via the corresponding German authorities at a multiple of the value actually determined to set, namely 58.000. [9] [14] The number of victims of ethnic Germans in Poland, the foreign press should be notified, were determined by official instructions to the relevant German authorities at a multiple of the actually determined value, namely 58,000. [9] [14]

An important propaganda function assumed the writer Edwin Erich Dwinger, whose book "Death in Poland. An important propaganda function assumed the writer Edwin Erich Dwinger, whose book" Death in Poland. The ethnic German Passion "has a circulation of 100 000 copies appeared. The ethnic German Passion "has a circulation of 100,000 copies appeared. Preliminary Dwinger writes: "This book was the most difficult of all tasks I set that as a chronicler of our time so far: It contains only the naked truth, each of his real name is the carrier on each describing a sworn statement." [15] preliminary Dwinger writes: "This book was the most difficult of all tasks that I previously presented as a chronicler of our times: it contains only the naked truth, each is the name of his actual carrier, any description on a sworn statement." [ 15]
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    * Jezioro Jezioro Jezuickie Jezuickie
    * Prady Prady

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    * Peter Aurich: The German-Polish September 1939, 2nd ed Peter Aurich: The German-Polish September 1939, 2nd ed. Berlin / Bonn 1985th Berlin / Bonn 1985th
    * Frederick Herber: forensic medicine under the swastika, Militzke Verlag, Leipzig 2002nd Frederick Herber: forensic medicine under the swastika, Militzke Verlag, Leipzig 2002nd
    * Markus Krzoska: Two murders. Markus Krzoska: Two murders. The Bydgoszcz events in September 1939, in: Inter Finitimos 7 (2009), p. 184-193. The Bydgoszcz events in September 1939, in: Inter Finitimos 7 (2009), p. 184-193.
    * Hugo Rasmus Pomerelia:, West Prussia. Hugo Rasmus Pomerelia:, West Prussia. 1919-1939, Munich, Berlin: FA Herbig, 1988, ISBN 3-7844-1596-6 (ISBN formally incorrect) (From "German" view). 1919-1939, Munich, Berlin: FA Herbig, 1988, ISBN 3-7844-1596-6 (ISBN formally incorrect) (From "German" view).
    * Idem: Before the Second World War in 1939, in: West Prussia Jarbuch-39 (1989), p.15-31. idem: Before the Second World War in 1939, in: West Prussia Jarbuch-39 (1989), p.15-31.
    * Wlodzimierz Jastrzebski: the Bromberg Bloody Sunday. Wlodzimierz Jastrzebski: the Bromberg Bloody Sunday. Legend and Reality, Posen (Poznan): Western Institute (Instytut Zachodni), 1990, ISBN 83-85003-38-X (Polish counterpart). Legend and Reality, Posen (Poznan): Western Institute (Instytut Zachodni), 1990, ISBN 83-85003-38-X (Polish counterpart).
    * Zygmunt Zielinski (ed): Polish, German. Zygmunt Zielinski (ed): Polish, German. Past Present Future, Katowice (Katowice): Wydawnictwo UNIA, 1995. Past Present Future, Katowice (Katowice): Wydawnictwo UNIA, 1995.
    * Günter Schubert: The company "Bromberg Bloody Sunday". Günter Schubert: The company "Bromberg Bloody Sunday". Death of a legend, Cologne: Bund-Verlag, 1989, ISBN 3-7663-2101-3 (Schubert argues Infiltrated, SS men had the discussion started). Death of a legend; Cologne: Bund-Verlag, 1989, ISBN 3-7663-2101-3 (Schubert argues infiltrated, SS men, the conflict had begun).
    * Alfred M. de Zayas: The Army investigation agency. Alfred M. de Zayas: The Army investigation agency. Documentation was Allied War crimes during the Second World, Munich: Universitas 2001 7, ISBN 3-8004-1051-6. Documentation Allied war crimes during the Second World War; Munich: Universitas 2001 7, ISBN 3-8004-1051-6.

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    * The "Bromberg Bloody Sunday" as a Polish film: neighbor The "Bromberg Bloody Sunday" as a Polish film: neighbor
    * The "Bromberg Bloody Sunday" as a film The "Bromberg Bloody Sunday" as a film
    * Thomas Kees: "Polish atrocities". Thomas Kees: "Polish atrocities". The propaganda campaign against the Third Reich, Poland; Saarbrücken: Saarland University, MA thesis, 1994, the propaganda campaign of the Third Reich against Poland, Saarbrücken: Saarland University, MA thesis, 1994

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   1st ↑ Frederick Herber: forensic medicine under the swastika, Militzke Verlag, Leipzig 2002, p. 268f. ↑ Frederick Herber: forensic medicine under the swastika, Militzke Verlag, Leipzig 2002, p. 268f.
   2nd ↑ Frederick Herber: forensic medicine under the swastika, Militzke Verlag, Leipzig 2002, p. 300 ↑ Frederick Herber: forensic medicine under the swastika, Militzke Verlag, Leipzig 2002, p. 300
   3rd ↑ ↑ Cf Cf So Gerhart Panning: The Bromberg Bloody Sunday. Also Gerhart Panning: The Bromberg Bloody Sunday. A forensic report in: German journal for the whole of Forensic Medicine 34, 1941, p. 7-54. A forensic report in: German journal for the whole of Forensic Medicine 34, 1941, p. 7-54.
   4th ↑ Alfred M. de Zayas: The Army investigative body. ↑ Alfred M. de Zayas: The Army investigative body. 6th 6th expanded edition, extended edition 1998 Universitas, Universitas 1998
   5th ↑ Erich Kuby: When Poland was German. ↑ Erich Kuby: The German Poland. 1939-1945; Ismaning near Munich: Hueber, 1986, ISBN 3-19-005503-3, p. 64-65. 1939-1945; Ismaning near Munich: Hueber, 1986, ISBN 3-19-005503-3, p. 64-65.
   6th ↑ from Jochen Böhler: prelude to the destruction of war. ↑ from Jochen Böhler: prelude to the destruction of war. The Wehrmacht in Poland in 1939, Frankfurt: Fischer, 2006, p. 136, n. 577, ISBN 3-596-16307-2. The Wehrmacht in Poland in 1939, Frankfurt: Fischer, 2006, p. 136, n. 577, ISBN 3-596-16307-2.
   7th ↑ Christian Zentner: World War II; Rastatt: Moewig 1998, ISBN 3-8118-1625-X, p. 46 ↑ Christian Zentner: World War II; Rastatt: Moewig 1998, ISBN 3-8118-1625-X, p. 46
   8th ↑ Hubert Fischer, the German Medical Service 1921-1945, vol.1, Osnabrück 1982, p. 236 ↑ Hubert Fischer, the German Medical Service from 1921 to 1945, Vol.1, Osnabrück 1982, p. 236
   9th ↑ abc Jürgen Runzheimer: Bromberg Bloody Sunday, in: Wolfgang Benz: Legends lies, prejudice. ↑ abc Jürgen Runzheimer: Bromberg Bloody Sunday, in: Wolfgang Benz: Legends, lies, prejudice. A Dictionary of Contemporary History, Munich: dtv 1992, p. 47-49, ISBN 3-423-03295-2 A Dictionary of Contemporary History, Munich: dtv 1992, p. 47-49, ISBN 3-423-03295-2
  10th ↑ Erich Kuby: When Poland was German. ↑ Erich Kuby: The German Poland. 1939-1945; Ismaning near Munich: Hueber, 1986, ISBN 3-19-005503-3, p. 64 ff 1939-1945; Ismaning near Munich: Hueber, 1986, ISBN 3-19-005503-3, p. 64 ff
  11th ↑ Hans Roos: History of the Polish nation. ↑ Hans Roos: History of the Polish nation. 1918-1978, Stuttgart: Kohlhammer, 1979, ISBN 3-17-004932-1 1918-1978, Stuttgart: Kohlhammer, 1979, ISBN 3-17-004932-1
  12th ↑ Christian Jansen, Arno Weckbecker: A militia in the "war of world views." Was the "German People's self-defense" in Poland 1939/1940, in: Wolfgang Michalka (ed.): The Second World. ↑ Christian Jansen, Arno Weckbecker: A militia in the "war of world views." The "German People's self-defense" in Poland 1939/1940, in: Wolfgang Michalka (ed.): The Second World War. Analysis, basic principles, research review, Munich, Zurich: Piper, 1993, ISBN 3-492-10811-3, p. 484 analysis, basic principles, research review, Munich, Zurich: Piper, 1993, ISBN 3-492-10811-3, p. 484
  13th ↑ Horst Rohde: Hitler's first "lightning" was and its impact on North-East Europe, in: Klaus A. Maier, Horst Rohde, Bernd Stegemann, Hans Umbreit: The German Reich and the Second World War, Volume 2: The establishment of hegemony on the European continent; Stuttgart: German publishing house, 1979, ISBN 3-421-01935-5, p. 144 ↑ Horst Rohde: Hitler's first "lightning war" and its impact on North-East Europe, in: Klaus A. Maier, Horst Rohde, Bernd Stegemann, Hans Umbreit: The German Reich and the Second World War, Volume 2: The establishment of hegemony on the European continent; Stuttgart: German publishing house, 1979, ISBN 3-421-01935-5, p. 144
  14th ↑ Thomas Kees: "Polish atrocities". ↑ Thomas Kees: "Polish atrocities". The propaganda campaign against the Third Reich, Poland; Saarbrücken: Saarland University, MA thesis, 1994, the propaganda campaign of the Third Reich against Poland, Saarbrücken: Saarland University, MA thesis, 1994
  15th ↑ Edwin Erich Dwinger, Death in Poland. ↑ Edwin Erich Dwinger, Death in Poland. The ethnic German Passion, Eugen Diederichs Verlag Jena 1940, p. 5 The ethnic German Passion, Eugen Diederichs Verlag Jena 1940, p. 5

[RoaminLam]

Giving Bismark last word on the Poles. My goodness. Let's not forget to condemn the bloodthirsty Irish for their violent outbursts against the civilizing rule of England.

Imagine ... the dirty, ignorant, quarrelsome Poles ... resisting the Germanizing Kulturkampf of old Mr. Blood & Iron himself. How ungrateful of them. Surely they deserved what they got.

Hitler was perfectly clear about his intentions to conquer and colonize the East. Please examine the glossy photographs of butchered Germans in this context. Also in light of other well-known propaganda lies, such as the false flag attack on Germany's Gleiwitz radio station, or the "Bromberg massacre" 3 days later, still, incredibly, being peddled by German apologists in "truth" forums today.

I suppose Hitler's accomplice, Stalin, was also motivated by humanitarian concerns for the long-suffering German minority in Poland. Or perhaps he was more interested in rescuing Poland's much larger Ukrainian population, among whom the Soviets had long been stirring up discontent over their Polish servitude – never mind the engineered starvation of millions of Ukrainians just east of there.

Remember the old Greek adage: "In war, truth is the first casualty."

If you believe the Polish atrocity stories that pretexted Hitler's reluctant, benign intervention, I'll bet you also bought into The 9/11 Commission Report by Philip Zelikow. And that you were moved by 15-year-old Nayirah's tearful testimony about Iraqis throwing Kuwaiti infants from their incubators ten years earlier. And were enraged at the tales of Hunnish soldiers eating Belgian babies in 1914.

With the Brownshirts and Goebbels' Ministry of Truth on our team, who needs Irgun peacekeepers or Noahide jurisprudence?

[Ahmed]

Hitler was perfectly clear about his intentions to conquer and colonize the East. Please examine the glossy photographs of butchered Germans in this context. Also in light of other well-known propaganda lies, such as the false flag attack on Germany's Gleiwitz radio station, or the "Bromberg massacre" 3 days later, still, incredibly, being peddled by German apologists in "truth" forums today.

If we take it as a given that all Bolshevik-Communist activity in Russia was Jewish we can then look at the alleged opposition.

The proponents of fascism post war (1919-24) may have genuinely believed that this was a good ideology to use against the Talmudic terror of the Bolsheviks. The carnage of Communism had already been witnessed in the streets and sent shockwaves through Christendom, but the terror of fascism was still to be seen by many.

Adolf Hitler was neither saviour nor satan: just an eloquent, charismatic, rank and file front man used and discarded by the Rothschild criminal network. A presumably patriotic German who sought to help his country regain its dignity. But one who didn't take long to sell out, he probably became independent later on and was then killed. If National Socialism achieved anything, it was the act of freeing Germany from the handcuffs of Versailles, albeit by chopping off its own hand.

From reading 'Mein Kamph' (or at least one of the many versions) you get an idea that Hitler was controlled opposition:

"I as a man of Germanic blood, would, in spite of everything, rather see India under English rule than under any other. As a volkish man, who appraises the value of men on a racial basis, I am prevented by mere knowledge of the racial inferiority of these so-called "oppressed nations" from linking the destiny of my own people with theirs"


Why didn't Hitler's knowledge extend to knowing that The British Empire was Rothschild controlled, and if he did know, why then advocate its occupation in Asia?

Hitler then goes onto make this now universally acknowledged point:

"For while the Zionists try to make the rest of the world believe that the national consciousness of the Jew finds its satisfaction in the creation of a Palestinian state (i.e. Israel), the Jews again slyly dupe the dumb goyim. It doesn't even enter their heads to build up a Jewish state for the purpose of living there; all they want is a central organisation for their international world swindle, endowed with its own sovereign rights and removed from the intervention of other states: a haven for convicted scoundrels and a university for budding crooks."

And then contradicts himself with almost every piece of National Socialist legislation from there on in. If Hitler understood the purpose of stealing Palestine was to establish an international Talmudic Jew crime network, why would he help facilitate the creation of that base?  


Hans Frank, The Bavarian Minister of Justice, quoted in 'The Nuremberg Parteitag'  and 'Nationalist Socialist Jewish Policy' p.p 263 says "...the best solution to the Jewish question, for Jews and Gentile alike, was the Palestinian National Home"


SS chief Reinhardt Heydrich in 'The Visible Enemy', for the SS newspaper 'Das Schwarze Korps':

"We must separate Jewry into two categories... the Zionists and those who favor being assimilated. The Zionists adhere to a strict racial position and by emigrating to Palestine they are helping to build their own Jewish state. The time cannot be far distant when Palestine will again be able to accept its sons who have been lost to it for over a thousand years. Our good wishes together with our official good will go with them."

"Zionism became the only other party legalized in the Reich, the Zionist flag the only other flag permitted to fly in Nazi-land."
Stephen Wise, 'Baal is not God, Congress Bulletin' (24 January 1936), p.2.[/i]

Hadn't any of them heard of Birobidzhan?

http://www.tellingfilms.netne.net/birobidjan.htm


So, whatever their reasons, Nazi Germany, along with the Brits (both Rothshcild controlled) helped lumber Palestine with this large criminal element of Jews, and not only were they shipping them over but sending Talmudic terrorists and fanatics with the sole intention of stealing land. Which is why Nuremberg wasn't so much a trial as it was a mop up operation to tie up the loose ends of an going criminal enterprise; to dispose of physical and breathing evidence and prevent anyone from putting a target on Rothschild.  

WWII served two purposes for the Talmudists IMO

1. The engineered clash between Fascism and Communism used to buttress Zionism into Palestine and steal the country to impose Israel (i.e. Talmudist criminal base)

2. To a lesser extent, they were re-fighting the Roman-Jewish war (look at the symbolism). Hadrian's resounding triumph over the Jewish insurgency in 136 AD is still a raw nerve for many of them.

[Ahmed]

Roy, Finally, the anti-Polish discussion is a major part of Ramsay's book. I agree that his earlier chapters are valuable, especially since they're so concise and comprehensive. But the material I objected to is so widely accepted in our community, while the perspective which debunks it is so absent here, and has so much to contribute to our understanding of this period – perhaps also to how we might deal with our plight today – that DB Smith's **unreserved** endorsement of The Nameless War required challenging.

Bob

DBS enthusiastically recommends a text so that we get the ideas at work and, more importantly, the measures enacted against the writers by those criminals in power who fear the truth. Certainly, his recommendation of Nesta Webster's 'Secret Societies And Subversive Movements' was one of the great literary rediscoveries of our time.

DBS is the Popeye Doyle of real news (I'm guessing that's where 'The French Connection' name really comes from!) Darryl sometimes jumps the gun but he's an invaluable broadcast journalist who gets down to brass tacks, staunch anti-Zionist and probably the reason why many of us are on this forum to begin with.

Ramsey's work is mostly top drawer and consistent with other maverick researchers of the era, his misguided love for the (Rothschild controlled) British Empire does, in a strange and befitting irony, make him guilty of embracing what Hitler called "the foul hurrah patriotism of our present bourgeois world".

Now as interesting a subject as WWII may be, does it really affect us in the here and now? No, it doesn't, knowing the facts is enough but getting into the convoluted minutia of every event only takes up time better spent closing in on the clear and present danger of Talmudic / Zionist criminality.

Alexander Carrington Hitchcock, though I disagree with some of his views, is an excellent researcher / historian and his timelines on the moneychangers and house of Rothschild (co-authored and researched by DBS) are as perfect an encapsulation of the main issues as I've read so far.

Whatever they did in WWII: mistakes, good intentions, treachery and betrayal. They, to use an old Germanic term: fucked it up good and proper, all of them. And now we've got to put things right. For if nothing else, the disasters of world war defined who the universal enemy of civilization is, and how all who value decency and freedom must resist the Rothschild criminal network.

[Negentropic]

Roamin Lam wrote: That the German minority was oppressed in Poland during the pre-war period is an insolent lie of German propaganda. The Germans had an aggressive fifth column in Poland from the start – as did the Soviets – stirring up trouble and creating provocations. That's the essence of what was going on. Who was excessive, who was belligerent, and who was grievously oppressed by whom – the truth here is exactly the opposite of what's presented as the Imperial German Chauvinist Position, a notable expression of which is contained in the "German White Book" appended to Ramsay's text.


Oh yeah?  "Insolent lie" ?  The 'truth' here, the 'truth' there? Where's your proof? You just keep making declarations without any links to any possible documentation or to any actual historians living or dead having researched and proven what you claim . If you're such a heavyweight why don't you provide references to the so-called historians you've researched who will prove your point?  Are we supposed to think YOU'RE  the historian now? If you're the budding historian and you have NEW BOMBSHELL EVIDENCE,  then why just give it to us? Collect all the 'documentation' (from other historians who quote other historians who quote other historians without any primary sources or actual physical documents backing it up, no doubt) behind your so-called 'facts' and 'insolent lies' and write your own history of World War II and become the big hero that finally proves David Irving wrong.  In fact, if you have any balls, why don't you write Irving a letter and explain your position and see what he says. You can bet your pontificating, know-it-all ass he'll back up his position with every document he has personally read that actually exists in the archives. Go ahead, I dare you to e-mail Irving, who is the foremost expert on WWII on the entire planet and get your answer in direct references to documented proof rather than hearsay from 60 years of goddamned non-stop anti-German propaganda !





David Irving -- Did Hitler Aim for World War?
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The Myth Of German Culpability
The 2nd World War
The True Sequence Of Aggression
By Michael Walsh
10-4-8
http://www.rense.com/general83/dett.htm
 
One of the great mysteries of life is that despite the evidence to the contrary millions of otherwise intelligent people still believe that Germany was the all powerful aggressor during the 2nd World War. Nothing better than these myths illustrate the mind-bending power of propaganda.
The provable facts suggest that Germany was the victim and not the perpetrator of naked neighboring aggression. The subsequent allied military triumph was followed by the triumph of the propagandists whose pressing need was to depict the victor nations as being the victim.
THE BRUTISH EMPIRE
"Germany is too strong. We must destroy her."
- Winston Churchill, Nov. 1936.
"In no country has the historical blackout been more intense and effective than in Great Britain. Here it has been ingeniously christened The Iron Curtain of Discreet Silence. Virtually nothing has been written to reveal the truth about British responsibility for the Second World War and its disastrous results." - Harry Elmer Barnes. American Historian
"The war was not just a matter of the elimination of Fascism in Germany, but rather of obtaining German sales markets." - Winston Churchill. March, 1946.
"Britain was taking advantage of the situation to go to war against Germany because the Reich had become too strong and had upset the European balance." - Ralph F. Keeling, Institute of American Economics
"I emphasized that the defeat of Germany and Japan and their elimination from world trade would give Britain a tremendous opportunity to swell her foreign commerce in both volume and profit." - Samuel Untermeyer, The Public Years, p.347.
On September 2nd 1939 a delegate of the Labour Party met with the British Foreign Minister Halifax in the lobby of Parliament. 'Do you still have hope?'he asked. 'If you mean hope for war,' answered Halifax, 'then your hope will be fulfilled tomorrow. 'God be thanked!' replied the representative of the British Labour Party. - Professor Michael Freund.
"In Britain, Lord Halifax was reported as being 'redeemed'. He ordered beer. We laughed and joked." - H. Roth. Are We Being Lied To?
"In April, 1939, (four months before the outbreak of war) Ambassador William C. Bullitt, whom I had known for twenty years, called me to the American Embassy in Paris. The American Ambassador told me that war had been decided upon. He did not say, nor did I ask, by whom. He let me infer it. ... When I said that in the end Germany would be driven into the arms of Soviet Russia and Bolshevism, the Ambassador replied: "'what of it? There will not be enough Germans left when the war is over to be worth bolshevising." - - Karl von Wiegand, April, 23rd, 1944, Chicago Herald American
"I felt sorry for the German people. We were planning - and we had the force to carry out our plans - to obliterate a once mighty nation." - Admiral Daniel Leahy; U.S Ambassador
MYTH 1. THE GERMAN NATION IS AN AGGRESSIVE NATION
The facts prove otherwise. A Study of War by Prof. Quincy Wright, shows that in the period from 1480 to 1940 there were 278 wars involving European countries whose percentage participation was as follows:
ENGLAND28%
FRANCE26%
SPAIN23%
RUSSIA22%
AUSTRIA19%
TURKEY15%
POLAND11%
SWEDEN9%
ITALY9%
NETHERLANDS8%
GERMANY (INCLUDING PRUSSIA)8%
DENMARK7%
Likewise, Pitirim Sorokin, Vol.111, Part.11, Social and Cultural Dynamics, shows that from the 12th Century to 1925 the percentage of years in which leading European powers have been at war is as follows. (p.352).
COUNTRY PERCENTAGE OF YEARS AT WAR
SPAIN67%
POLAND58%
ENGLAND56%
FRANCE50%
RUSSIA46%
HOLLAND44%
ITALY36%
GERMANY28%
Sorokin concludes therefore, "that Germany has had the smallest and Spain the largest percent of years at war." Of leading modern European states, England, France and Russia show clearly twice the aggressive tendencies of Germany.
From the years 1815 to 1907 the record stands as follows:
BRITAIN10 warsRUSSIA7 warsFRANCE5 warsAUSTRIA3 warsPRUSSIA-GERMANY3 wars
GERMANY DID NOT WANT WAR
"I believe now that Hitler and the German people did not want war. But we declared war on Germany, intent on destroying it, in accordance with our principle of balance of power, and we were encouraged by the 'Americans' around Roosevelt. We ignored Hitler's pleadings not to enter into war. Now we are forced to realize that Hitler was right." - Attorney General, Sir. Hartley Shawcross, March,16th, 1984
"The last thing Hitler wanted was to produce another great war." - Sir. Basil Liddell Hart
"I see no reason why this war must go on. I am grieved to think of the sacrifices which it will claim. I would like to avert them." - Adolf Hitler, July, 1940.
Winston Churchill agrees: "We entered the war of our own free will, without ourselves being directly assaulted." - Guild Hall Speech, July 1943.
MYTH.2 THE GERMAN ARMED FORCES
OUTNUMBERED THEIR NEIGHBOURS
POLAND
30 Active Divisions
10 Reserve Divisions
12 Large Cavalry Brigades
Poland had nearly 2,500,000 trained men available for mobilisations.
FRANCE
110 Divisions
65 were active divisions
Including 5 cavalry divisions, two mechanised divisions, one armoured division, the rest being infantry. On the German borders stood the French commandstood 85 Divisions and could mobilise 5,000,000-armed troops. These were supported backed by five British divisions.
BRITAIN
Britain's relatively small but high quality Regular Army was supported by the Territorial Army consisting of 26 Divisions with plans well in hand to boost this to 55 divisions. This of course was in turn supported by the then world's largest conscription army holding an empire 'upon which the sun never set.'
The British Empire consisted also of the former German 'empire' of New Guinea, Nauru, Western Samoa, South West Africa, Quattar, Palestine, Transjordan, Tanganyika, Iraq, Togoland and the Cameroons. These territories stolen from Germany added another 1,061,755 square miles to the British Empire, the equivalent of 35 Scotlands
GERMANY
Against these formidable forces Germany was able to mobilise just ninety-eight divisions of which only fifty-two were active (including Austrian divisions). Of the remaining 46 divisions only 10 were fit for action on mobilisation and even in these the bulk of them were raw recruits who had been serving for less than one month.
The other 36 divisions consisted mainly of Great War veterans over the age of forty who were unfamiliar with modern weapons and up to date military techniques.
THE BALANCE SHEET
On the balance sheets it can be seen that the Poles and French alone, not counting Britain and its Empire, had the equivalent of 130 divisions against a total of 98 German divisions of with 1/3rd were virtually untrained men.
In terms of trained soldiers the Germans were at an even bigger disadvantage. (Note at the outbreak of war over 50% of the German armed forces was horse drawn).
WAR IN THE AIR
"The superiority of the Luftwaffe has been greatly exaggerated to create the impression that Britain was the underdog; a David fighting Goliath. In the run up to the Battle of Britain (August 10th 194) the Luftwaffe had 929 fighters available; mostly single-engine Messerschmitt 109s. Of these 227 were twin-engine long-range Me110s which had a top speed of 350mph. Although it had a faster rate of climb it was inferior when turning or manoeuvring.
The ME109's range restricted its field of operation. Their real fields of operation ¬ out and back ¬ was a little over 100 miles, a flight time of barely 95 minutes and a tactical flight time of just 75 minutes. This was a sever handicap when it is considered that whereas the Luftwaffe pilots were operating scores of miles from their base, British pilots were often within sight of their own. This handicap was made more critical by the fact that downed RAF pilots could be rescued whilst Luftwaffe pilots were of course ¬ if they were lucky ¬ imprisoned.
The twin-engine ME110 was a slow flyer able to cruise at a little less than 300mph and was easily outpaced by the RAF's Spitfires. It was also 'sluggish in acceleration and difficult to manoeuvre.'
The greatest handicap for the Germans however was there primitive radio equipment. Unlike the British versions it was poor in air-to-air operation and could not be controlled by the ground.
On the British side a total surpassing 650 fighter aircraft had been amassed by mid-July, mostly Hurricanes and Spitfires although including nearly 100 of the older types. During that whole year Britain produced 4,238 fighters compared with a derisory 3,000 manufactured by Germany.
In terms of armaments the noted British military historian, B.H Liddell Hart noted: "What is quite clear, and became evident at the start, was that the German bombers were too poorly armed to be able to beat off the British fighters without a fighter escort of their own." ¬ History of the Second World War.
GERMANY AND OTHER FREE COUNTRIES ATTACKED
Poland carried out the first acts of aggression. In March 1939 Poland, already occupying German territory 'acquired' in 1919 invaded Czechoslovakia. During the months running up to the outbreak of war Polish armed forces repeatedly violated German borders. On August 31st 1939 Polish irregular armed forces launched a full scale attack on the German border town of Gleiwitz.
Within hours Germany retaliated resulting in Britain and France's declarations of war on the German nation on 3rd Sept 1939. In Britain's case this declaration of war was constitutionally illegal. It was not as it should have been ratified by parliament.  
Despite her borders being constantly attacked by the numerically superior armies of France and England, and economically strangled by world finance, Germany refused to be drawn, negotiated for peace and turned the other cheek for ten months.
Only when it accurately learned that England intended to broaden the western front by occupying the Low Countries and Norway, thus surrounding and threatening Germany's entire borders, did Germany carry out a pre-emptive strike.
Germany's defensive counter attack was launched on 10th May 1940. This resulted in the rout of 330,000 British and French troops by a significantly smaller army. It was one of the worst debacles in military history. (The British press called it 'a miracle).
Russia invaded Finland on Nov 30th 1939. Britain (not for the first time) and France invaded Norway's neutrality on 8th April 1940. To avoid attack via the Baltic Sea Germany counter-attacked. In the small battles that followed (Trondheim) 2,000 German troops routed 13,000 British troops. They were evacuated on 1st May. To save face Churchill disembarked 20,000 British troops at Narvik. They were driven out by 2,000 Austrian Alpine troops.
Canada declared war on Germany 10th Sept 1939. In June 1940 Soviet Russia invaded Latvia, Estonia, Lithuania and Rumania. In June 1940, Britain declared war on Finland, Rumania and Hungary whilst also occupying defenseless Iceland. All of these acts of aggression in gross violation of international law and previously signed treaties.
On May 10th 1940 in brazen defiance of international law Britain occupied Iceland. Icelanders regarded the British armed forces as an occupying force.
On 7th Dec 1941 a British backed coup overthrew the Yugoslav government. On 27th March 1941 British troops enter Greece. On 6th April 1941 Germany retaliated and Britain retreated again. In June 1940 Britain prepares to invade neutral Portugal.
The United States, supposedly neutral, consistently attacks German shipping and arrests or otherwise kidnaps German citizens, even those living in South American countries. In August 1941. Germany retaliated.
In 1940 alone Britain, supposedly standing alone and at bay, added 1.6 MILLION SQUARE MILES TO ITS WORLD EMPIRE occupying Italian and French colonies; Syria, Iraq and Persia. Britain's foremost military historian, A.J.P. Taylor conceded: "There can be no doubt that he (Hitler) broadened the war in 1941 only on preventive grounds."
Footnote on casualties: In terms of casualties the United Kingdom came in at number nine. Russia came first (official figures at 13.6 million, Germany 3.5, China 1.3, Japan 1.3, Romania 350,000, United States 252,000, Italy 279,000, UK 264,000, France 213,000, Hungary 200,000, Poland 123,000, Greece 88,000, Finland 82,000, Canada 37,000, India 24,000, Australia 23,000, Belgium 12,000, Czechoslovakia 10,000, Bulgaria 10,000, New Zealand 10,000 (another country threatened by Germany no doubt!), Netherlands 8,000, South Africa 6,000, Norway 3,000, Denmark 1,800, Brazil 943.
A FINAL EPITAPH FROM ONE OF ENGLAND'S FINEST POETS:
A curse for England, false and base,
Where nothing can prosper but disgrace,
Where crushed is each flower's tender form,
And decay and corruption feed the worm ....
... Sounds familiar?
Comment
Michael Rivero
The "Clash of civilizations" is not about religion, but about banking. How Hitler rebuilt Germany's economy was simple. He abandoned the fractional reserve banking system that was crippling post-WW1 Germany and instituted a currency with a fixed unit of value. Oddly enough, it was a financial system not very different from that of the United States prior to 1913. This allowed Germany to rebuild quickly, but was of course a direct threat to the bankers who had grown rich and powerful with legalized counterfeiting. This is the reason that "war" (actually a boycott; see attached) was "declared" against Germany. The bankers feared that people everywhere would see the immediate advantages of a non- reserve monetary system and force a change in their own countries. Germany, specifically the German economy, had to be wrecked in order to preserve the fractional reserve banking system everywhere else.
Oddly enough, when Putin came to power in Russia, he did pretty much the same thing; kicking out the oligarchs and restructuring Russia's economic system, and the end result is that Russia has paid off all her debts early (while the USA, still enslaved to the Federal Reserve, sinks deep into debt every single day), and not surprisingly, enmity against Russia by nations under the control of reserve banking systems and bankers is on the increase.
The same "war of money" underlies the push for Islamophobia. It's not really about religion but about the conflict between compounded interest versus loan-plus-fixed-fee financing.
Michael Rivero
What Really Happened
http://www.thenewsturmer.com
Hess on a secret mission landed in Britain to end the war with the West that Hitler did not want. Churchill concealed the nature of his mission because Churchill was taking order from Jews (Baruch and Morganthau as well as the merchant banking houses of The City) wanted the extermination of Germans and the threat of the usury-free Nationalist Populist dynamism.
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From: Dick Eastman
With the advantage of retrospect and the exposure of what really happened, I am sorry Hitler and Japan did not get a negotiated settlement (rather than a defeat) out of World War Two.
He could have done so easily. Instead of bombing London he could have bombed the mansions of the British aristocracy on their great estates, bombed them to rubble. The British elite did not care about the insufferable lower-class nobodies dying in the London Blitz. They would care about losing the family castle. And the strategy would have saved the Luftwaffe as well. The British always knew the German planes were headed straight to London and so had all of their anti-aircraft guns, barrage baloons and searchlights and RAF Spitfires there to intercept them. If they went after the gentry where they lived they would have had all Britain in which to select their targets. The RAF could not be everywhere at once. Before you know it the House of Lords would have renegged on their backing of Churchill (Baruch's pet bulldog) and his insistance upon unconditional surrender and would have settled for a negotiated peace that would have saved Europe from half-conquest by (Jewish) communism. Remember that when we are fighting the elites. Our enemy is not the stupid and depraved soldiers they send after us -- our enemy is the Money Power elite themselves.
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Munich Betrayal And Its Contemporary Lessons
Between 1932 and 1942, the USA used about 12 per cent of her gross income on military equipment. That was far above what Germany used and what Japan used. I call such high part of gross national income for propping up a country making it ready for war.



Here's a huge, loud, chanting and blood-thirsty demonstration against 1 German man in Canada. What did this one man do? Was he a child molester? Was he a serial killer?  Did he shoot unarmed civilians on a humanitarian mission in international waters and murder them in cold blood? Did he run over an unarmed American girl with a bulldozer and back up and run over her again on camera, making sure she was dead ?  Did he sell people's internal organs and refuse to pay them? No he just happened to present some facts about the massive, gigantic, non-stop and all-permeating anti-German propaganda and demonization throughout all western media:

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Here are actual recorded callers threatening to cut the balls off of and stab with an icepick in the stomach, the same polite German man, not to mention burn down his house and even rape his wife :

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Hitler arriving in Maribour Slovenia to a hero's welcome:

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As to who prefers what tyranny to what other tyranny, it's a question of degrees, isn't it?  Between Ahmedinejad's Islamic Fundamentalist Iran and Racist Israhell, I'd pick Iran because, as sexist and tyrannical as fundamentalist Iran is, at least it doesn't have an ethnic cleansing program of genocide against defenseless people living in enforced subhuman conditions.  I'd rather live in Jew-run Fascist-soon-to-be-Communist America where some minor remnants of freedom still operate rather than in disarmed and castrated Britain with its millions of cameras watching everyone 24 hours a day.  Between the shithole America of today and the America of 50 years ago, I would pick the latter without a second's hesitation. And by the same logic anyone who says they would rather live under Communist Russia rather than Hitler's Germany, Mussolini's Italy, Franco's Spain or the Shah's Iran, simply has no idea what they're talking about. Indeed, in some ways, National Socialist Germany was much less tyrannical and far more cultured, refined and polite than the paranoid, idiotic, SWAT-teamed, goonsquaded America of today. Just for starters, National Socialist Germans didn't freak out about guns in possession of respectable citizens even if they happened to be Jewish. Here's a first person account of how terrible life was in Nazi Germany written by a half-Jew who lived under it:

Nazi Terror: A Short Autobiography of a Jewish National Socialist is a myth-shattering account of what it was really like for a Jew in Hitler's Germany. Weichardt's father was Editor of the Berliner Morgenpost and his mother was a Jewess. His story, which is rich in detail, is a gripping read and a real eye-opener. 54 pages, £4.80 (approx $8), ISBN 1-901240-18-5, 2004.

A Typically Astonishing Excerpt from Nazi Terror (pp. 13-16)

The next anti-Jewish measure was the Arier paragraph, which eliminated non-Aryans from all government positions. Everybody with one quarter or more Jewish background was considered non-Aryan. Exempt from this law were all Jews who had fought for Germany in the World War or had lost sons during that war or who already held government positions before that war. Certain exemptions for meritorious individuals could be granted. All non-Aryans in government positions had to be retired (not fired!) with their pensions forthcoming. Businesses, large or small, were not affected; doctors could continue their practices but were not compensated for treating patients insured under the government-run health plan. Many, many – including high party officials – stayed with their Jewish family doctors who had treated them for a long time. The number of university students of three-quarter or all-Jewish ancestry were limited to the percentage of their numbers in the populace. Still pretty good, when compared with the experience of deserving whites under Jewish-imposed affirmative action in America. Students with one-half or less Jewish ancestry were under no restrictions at all, and even had, at a later date, to join the nationalist student organization. They were not permitted to join the SA or SS. Joining a nationalist organization became, in effect, obligatory for all Aryan students.

The immediate effect on the private lives of most Jews was in the beginning only minimal. Some personal experiences will show this. Since my early teens I had been an avid gun lover. In Austria, where we lived at the time, there were in effect no restrictions on the possession of handguns or rifles. If there were, they certainly were not enforced. At the age of fifteen I could walk into one of the finest gunshops in Vienna and purchase any weapon in the store, as long as I had the necessary money. Unfortunately I didn't, but after some time I had scraped together a sufficient amount to start my modest collection by acquiring three low-priced handguns. Shortly thereafter, in 1929, we moved to Berlin. In Germany, under the Weimar Republic, one had to register each gun with the police. There were no restrictions on possession except if you wanted to carry them. In this case you had to have a hunting licence which required a lengthy course in gun handling, marksmanship, game laws and the handling of bagged game. The police had absolutely no say or power to refuse you the ownership of your guns when you came to register. It was a purely bureaucratic measure which enabled the police to trace a gun involved in a criminal action.

My guns were registered in the name of my (Jewish) mother, who had contributed the money for their original purchase, because I was only fifteen years old and could not own firearms until I reached maturity (21 years). After Hitler came to power, nothing was changed in the existing gun regulations; nobody had to turn in the registered guns – period. My mother still had them on the day of her immigration to the US (May 1941) and gave them to a friend of mine because importation of firearms was prohibited under US law.

The laxness with which the firearm laws were enforced was clearly demonstrated in the days after the Reichstag fire, when most people feared an imminent Communist uprising. Suddenly untold numbers of veterans or members of patriotic organizations were seen walking around, proudly displaying their wartime military Mausers or Parabellums strapped to their sometimes paunchy bellies. After a while, after the communist threat had been eliminated, they were politely reminded that carrying of firearms in public was against the law and the guns were put back into drawers at home. The sale of ammunition was never restricted.

Suddenly a long-time dream of mine promised to come true: the ownership of a genuine Parabellum in good condition. One of my friends had heard of a deal whereby members of the many existing nationalist party organizations could purchase retired army pistols in lots of one hundred at a price of fifteen marks per gun. The price of a new Parabellum was one hundred and fifty marks in those days, which was about the monthly income of a lowly worker, if he had a job. My search for prospective customers was frantic. By charging an extra mark for my services I had to sell only fifteen guns to earn sufficient money for the purchase of a gun for myself! Alas, my plan was of short duration. Some envious or overzealous citizen felt obliged to inform the authorities of my dreamy deal. It was followed by the famous knock on the door, and on opening I faced three agents of the secret police (Gestapo). No hands in the pockets groping for hidden arms, no shouted orders or threats, only showing of identifications and the polite question if I had any firearms at home and if they could see them. I asked them in, got my guns and asked my mother to show the registration receipts. The disappointment of the rather mild-mannered gentlemen at the measly display was obvious and they asked about the whereabouts of the one hundred Parabellums I was suspected of harbouring. My heart sank and I told them about my, now surely aborted, hoped-for big deal, which as yet had not been completed. They looked greatly relieved and the man in charge said that a perfunctory search of our premises was in order. No drawers were ripped out and emptied, nothing was displaced or damaged – only a short look under beds, into armoires and storage cabinets. When they were ready to leave the man in charge spotted a letter on the table with a Jewish-sounding name of the sender and being obviously informed about my mother's racial background he very kindly admonished her that because of the new conditions prevalent to be especially careful and not to break any of the existing laws. With that they apologized for the inconvenience they had caused and left. My loaded guns remained on the table.

In order fully to appreciate this story you must remember that the Parabellum was at that time still the most powerful and sophisticated military handgun on the European market. Today's equivalent would be a fully automatic MP5 or Ingram. Just imagine somebody informing the "democratic" American government that I was stocking one hundred of those, possibly intending to sell them to some shady characters harbouring racist or otherwise non-PC views. Can't you just hear Janet Reno screaming and ordering her trigger-happy minions into action? The roar of armoured trucks loaded with SWAT teams in full battledress would be deafening and reinforced by the clatter of helicopter-gunships hovering overhead, in case any difficulties should develop. The headlines would shout: Gun Crazy Rightist Has Arsenal Endangering His Neighbourhood! Governor Might Call In National Guard! Remember the recent actions of the American government in the case of a man who sold a shotgun, allegedly one quarter inch shorter than the law permits, to an undercover agent, which resulted in the deaths of a mother holding a baby in her arms, one unarmed child, the family dog and a marshal. Or the one involving a religious nut who could have been arrested any day by a single cop while the former attended to his shopping in the local supermarket. Result: about eighty people, mostly women and children, incinerated alive. I think my imagined scenario above is an understatement.

My next run-in with the authorities of the Third Reich happened about three years later and was a little more ominous. I had just received the notification that my application for voluntary service in the newly-recruited army had been definitely denied and I was understandably very bitter because service in the armed forces was considered an honour and privilege, not an onerous duty. Instead of swallowing my badly injured pride I complained to everybody who would listen to me, ending my complaints with the caustic question: "Why me, when even the top general of the Luftwaffe, Erhard Milch, had a Jewish father?" Well it didn't take very long for the knock at the door...


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Under Two Flags
 
by Heinz Weichardt

Under Two Flags

Introduction

After years of urging my dear friend Heinz Weichardt to make at least a partial memoir of the vicissitudes of his interesting life, he finally was persuaded by Louis Beam, whom he met last year, to do so. This article was originally in the form of a letter to Louis.

Heinz certainly has had an unusual perspective of the Twentieth Century. A supporter of Hitler who left Germany as an unwanted non-Aryan, he became an enemy alien in America. As the years passed, Heinz became successful in his field of physics (electron-optics), retiring from IBM as a manager in its research division. As his article reveals, he never wavered in his support for National Socialism, even if he had himself been rejected by it.

Lately there has appeared a peculiar contempt for Historical Revisionism. The latter has undeniably been slashing and chopping the roots of contemporary Jewish power, so Heinz was very unsettled by such criticism. He told me often that when the Holocaust was beginning to be promoted in the 1960s he could only recall his school days in Germany. "I went to school with those fellows in the SS. I knew that they were simply not capable of behavior which the Jews were ascribing to them." He felt that Revisionism was crucial to the regeneration of his once-beloved Germany which has staggered under the libels of Jewish-American lies for fifty years. The same goes for this miserable country.

Heinz believed that our goal must be to disfranchise Jews, to dislodge them from government, medicine, law, education, the arts and, of course, from the media. He believes that to criticize those who have demonstrated the Holocaust to be a lie only helps to maintain the Jews as our overlords.
It doesn't matter if one genius today says he knew the Holocaust was phony in 1958 and because of that Revisionism is a waste of time. I don't notice any reduction of Holocaust poison in the media today; our children continue to receive it. They must be protected from deadly lies. We adults must grow up, too. The truth will make us mad. It may make us fight. The fighting may one day make us free.

J. B. Campbell

February 23, 1995


Dear Louis,


I felt that I should give you a somewhat more extended background to the political situation which led to the events of January 1933 in Germany, since most of the pertinent facts are only rarely realized by or available to the citizenry of this country.

First a few biographical notes about myself. My father, Dr. Carl Weichardt, of Frisian background, was among the dozen leading journalists of Germany, during the years 1911 to 1944. From 1912 to 1932 he was chief editorial writer and foreign correspondent for the Frankfurter Zeitung, the leading liberal German newspaper, Jewish owned. From 1934 to 1944 he was editor and in charge of reporting about all major cultural events for the Berliner Morgenpost, the largest German daily then and again today. During that time the Morgenpost was owned by the publishing house, Eher, which also published the Völkische Beobachter, the official government paper during the Hitler years. After the Second World War he became the co-founder of a small south-German newspaper. He died in the year 1955. His brother became an officer in the Imperial Army during the First World War and during the Weimar Republic he was the adjutant to General-Field Marshal and President von Hindenburg in the latter's honor regiment. His oldest son lied about his age to join the army during World War I and became a lieutenant at the age of eighteen. He remained with the Reichswehr during the Weimar years and became a high level officer in the Wehrmacht. He fell during the campaign in Russia. The next son was active as a radical nationalist as early as 1921 and was even jailed for a few months because of it during the Weimar years. Later he became a NS party functionary. The third son became a Reichswehr officer and later a lieutenant colonel in the Wehrmacht. He was seriously wounded in Russia but is still alive and well at the age of ninety-four. The fourth, my youngest cousin, fell as a member of Rommel's Afrika-Korps and is buried at Tobruk. A brother of my grandfather emigrated to South Africa and his son, Louis Weichardt, was the highly respected founder of the National Socialist movement of South Africa in the early thirties. During the war he was incarcerated by the British. At the end of the war he was released and became the senator of the province Natal. He was so highly respected that after his death in 1985, even the Zionist Capetown Times, which had fought him for sixty years, wrote a decent obituary.

My mother, of Jewish extraction, was a professional musician and renowned opera singer. Her father fought in the Prussian army during the Franco-Prussian war of 1871. Her brother-in-law was a professional soldier and captain in the Imperial Austrian army. He fell during the first six days of World War I when Russia invaded Austria and Germany. Her first cousin, also an Austrian officer, received shrapnel in his right lung on the same occasion and spent the following seven years as prisoner of war in Siberia. Another of her cousins fell on the Western Front and still another cousin survived all actions of the war in the Balkans and became, during the early thirties, personal adjutant to prince Starhemberg, the leader of the Austrian Nationalist, but not National Socialist, Heimwehren until the Anschluss.

I was born in 1914 and grew up in Germany, Switzerland and Austria, depending on my father's assignments. From 1929 to the end of 1938 I lived in Berlin where I finished my intermediate schooling and obtained my master's degree in engineering-physics from the Berlin Institute of Technology. I like to emphasize the military participation of the Jewish part of my family because this was by no ways an exception but rather the norm, especially among the more well-to-do Jewish families which strived to be Germans first and in many cases, such as my family's, to forget their Jewishness by letting themselves be baptized. It is generally well known that in no other country in the world was the Jewish community assimilated as well as in Germany. Examples: One of the best known German romanticists, H. Heine, was Jewish (baptized); the greatest Jewish composer, Mendelssohn, was another German romanticist and to this day his music cannot be performed in some synagogues because he too had himself baptized. The best friend of the Kaiser was Albert Ballin, the Jewish founder of the largest German shipping line and the only person who had a private telephone line into the emperor's bedroom. The famous Jewish chemist Haber was director of the Kaiser Wilhelm Institute for Chemistry where he developed the process for the production of ammonia from the nitrogen in the air. For this he received the Nobel Prize for chemistry. Without this process the German armament industry would not have been able to produce sufficient munitions within one year into World War I. As a fact, the condition of the 500,000 Jews among the sixty million Germans was such that at the beginning of the war in 1914 the American-Jewish press stood solidly behind Germany.

What happened then? Why was there virulent "anti-Semitism" in Germany only ten to fifteen years later?

The main reason that Jewry became so respectable and could aspire to be accepted by the highest levels of German society was the rigid structure of the Prussian dominated state. Within this environment there simply was no possible room to develop shady business methods so acceptable to the oriental mind; there were no corruptible officials which could be bought because to become an official did not entail the possibility to enrich yourself at the cost of the public. It was an honor, which had to be earned by hard and successful labor. A teacher, a soldier, a postal employee, a policeman or any other government worker had to be a role model and if he ever betrayed the trust given to him by the public he had to serve, he was finished. Today Prussianism is equated to despotism. Nothing could be further from the truth! The motto of Prussia and later of the German Reich was: Gemeinnutz geht vor Eigennutz. (The well-being of the people is more important than your own.) This might sound somewhat exaggerated for the citizens of a vast and immensely rich domain, but must be the mode of survival in a relatively small, overpopulated country, whose main resource was the diligent labor of its hands and the creativity of its brains. Nothing describes better the difference in the idea of statehood better than the declarations of Frederick the Great of Prussia and Louis XIV of France. "I am the first servant of the state," for the former and "I am the state" for the latter. The Jews of Germany, and especially of Prussia, being, if nothing else, quite smart, simply adapted themselves very successfully to the rules of the game and many of them became even more Prussian than the Prussians. They were greatly assisted therein by Prussia as well as by the rest of the predominantly evangelical north Germany, being by far the religiously most tolerant domain in all of Europe. Any remaining anti-Jewishness, anti-Semitism barely existing, was mainly aimed at some Jewish mannerisms which sometimes grated on the somewhat stiff Prussian form of social etiquette. Today we know, of course, that exactly those mannerisms expose a deep-seated character flaw and, if permitted to become the norm of societal behavior, will lead to the destruction of a whole culture. A Jewish acquaintance of mine during the Hitler years, when asked why the Jewish people everywhere and always are getting into trouble, put it quite succinctly. The answer: Wir sind leider ein zwar kleines aber äußerst mieses Volk. (Unfortunately we are a small but exceedingly obnoxious people).

While the Jewish question seemed solved, or at least dormant, in Germany and most of western Europe, real trouble began across the Atlantic. After the disastrous defeat of the more civilized half of this country by ruthless Yankeeism, the North soon found that the fleeing blacks of the South were essentially useless for cheap labor in a feverishly expanding industry driven by mercantile materialism. The search for easy profit led to the laying of a cuckoo's egg of such size that after it is fully hatched may yet lead to the final destruction of this country. I am referring to the massive introduction of the "huddled masses and refuse" (Emma Lazarus' desecrating inscription at the foot of the Statue of Liberty). Thereafter this country was never the same. These masses were a totally different breed from the docile, now "liberated" slaves of the South. Mostly the large numbers of eastern Jews with their inborn "smartness" quickly worked themselves out of the sweatshops and low-paying industrial jobs and became independent businessmen. Their ruthless and unconscionable business methods, possibly a necessity for survival in Russian and Polish ghettos, were permitted to develop without restrictions in a country where unlimited personal liberty was sanctified. This lack of restrictions on personal behavior culminated in the appearance of such financial "geniuses" (I am quoting the Wall Street Journal) as Milken, Boesky, Steinberg and Levine. In Europe, meanwhile, the political influence of the Jewish banking dynasties became so strong that a Mrs. Rothschild could state, "My sons can decide if there will be war or not." After the death of Queen Victoria, under the rule of the already somewhat degenerate playboy, Edward, this influence would become all-pervasive. The simultaneous growth of German industrial might under the wise political guidance of Bismarck was of course unacceptable to British self-esteem and the thought that the competition on the world markets could be met with a bit more of hard labor and diligence or by reducing the length of the extended weekends to which English upper classes had become accustomed, was simply too horrible to be contemplated. When the Germans committed the unspeakable crime of becoming financially nearly independent from the international banking system and began to build a high-seas fleet to assure access to their modest colonial possessions, this was the last straw and something had to be done to put them down for good. With the help of Russian imperialism and French chauvinism and revanchism (they still had not reconciled themselves with the loss of the war of 1871 which was started by them under typical French delusions of grandeur) it was easy to pursue a policy of encirclement against Germany.

Kaiser Wilhelm was an utterly civilized and peace-loving man. I know this from the British mother of my best friend; she was a close personal friend of Wilhelm who in turn was my friend's godfather. The Kaiser did suffer unfortunately from an inclination to vainglorious gab and this was used quite liberally against him by his enemies. At a much later time the similar afflictions of the warmongering criminals, Churchill and Roosevelt, were generally well accepted! After the Russians arranged the murder of the Archduke Franz Ferdinand through their Serbian dupes, the First World War was on. The American people wanted to stay out of the European mess, but since the country was, at the time, suffering from one of its strangely recurring recessions, the powers that were decided differently. The opportunity of reaping huge profits by supplying one of the fighting sides with liberal credits and massive infusions of war matériel was too tempting and could not be ignored.

Alas, the boys in New York and Washington bet on the wrong horse. The war went badly for them. By the year 1916 Russia was ready to collapse and on the Western Front the combined Anglo-French forces were fought to a standstill. The treacherous Italians (they were bound by a tripartite treaty to Austria and Germany until they found it to their advantage to switch sides) were losing in the south. The multiple declarations of war by many powers as distant as Japan and Brazil did not seem to improve the situation either and there were nasty rumors of a negotiated peace floating in the air. At exactly this point the seeds were laid to the future growth of German "anti-Semitism" (a euphemism for anti-Judaism) because the majority of middle-eastern Semites were still backing Germany at that time. The Jewish bankers in London and New York had Britain over a barrel and found it easy to extract the Balfour Declaration, which promised them a Jewish homeland--but not a sovereign Jewish state--in Palestine, which in 1916 still belonged to Turkey. The British, being famous for their fairness and integrity in all their dealings, made a similar offer to middle-eastern Arabs and even dispatched T. E. Lawrence to found the Arab Legion. At a later time when Lawrence reminded his government of this promise he suddenly and conveniently died in a motorcycle accident.
As an aside, a propensity for accidental death seems to be quite common among people not agreeing with the prevailing Anglo-American policy. You surely remember George Patton, who wanted to warn the American people that the war was not won if the Western Allies did not continue their advances until they reached Warsaw. He also was greatly impressed by the human quality of the personnel in the SS-Führerschulen and had the audacity to state so publicly. After these unpopular utterances the healthy, strapping general suffered minor injuries in a highly suspicious car accident and died shortly from the consequences. Or the court appointed Jewish lawyer, who was to defend Ivan Demjanjuk during the latter's show trial in Jerusalem. It was his misfortune to discover some items which disputed the claims of the prosecution and promptly and conveniently dropped out of a high-up hotel room window. It was declared a suicide but this was hotly denied by his family. There are many other cases, of course.

Back to 1916. After obtaining the Balfour Declaration the Jewish-American press and their followers made a sudden turnabout and began to pour their well-practiced venom on the still hard-fighting Germans, who were from now on to be known simply as barbarous Huns. This was not only a betrayal of Germany but also of their German co-religionists who were more accepted in Germany than anywhere else in the world and where most of their able-bodied men were still fighting for what they considered their fatherland. It was rather easy to convert the "idealistic" but feebleminded Wilson into a fanatic crusader for "democracy" and America joined the bloodletting with supposedly the best of intentions. As far as the public was concerned it was the job of the Jewish press, as well as others such as the Hearst press to release a never ending stream of anti-German hate propaganda which did a good job and the easily misled masses patriotically marched off to war. Russia had collapsed, the Jew Kerensky formed the first revolutionary government and decided to continue the war against Germany--a preposterous idea considering the condition of Russia at that time. Germany, eager to end the war in the east, decided to help a new and more radical revolution in Russia. Lenin, leader of the far left Communists, was residing in Zurich. He had promised to end the war with Germany as soon as he was in control of Russia and negotiations began for his secret transport through Germany to St. Petersburg. I am somewhat familiar with these occurrences because my father was at that time the top member of the German press corps in Switzerland and got involved in the above-mentioned negotiations. The Jews outside Germany decided to help Lenin along in his bid for power and sent his comrade Trotsky (Bronstein) and hundreds of Communist Jewish radicals from Brooklyn, armed with untold millions of dollars, to Russia. The rest is well-known history as far as the events in Russia are concerned.

Things began to look up for Germany because the Americans had as yet not arrived in telling numbers at the Western Front and there would be soon some two million battle-hardened German troops released from the east and available in the west for a final push. Paris was in panic and very drastic measures had to be applied to prevent mutiny in the French army.

Here now rises the curtain over the second act of Jewish treachery against Germany--this time unfortunately in Germany proper. This is the story: After the German army had driven the Russians out of Germany and Austrian Galicia it drove them out of Russian Poland and Ukraine. The Jews, in Poland a major part of the population, became fearful of the traditional severe anti-Semitism in those parts, especially since the Germans had the plan to create a new Polish state at the end of the war with Russia. A massive movement of Galician Jews, most of them being Austrian citizens, began their trek westward into Austria, mainly Vienna, whence they could freely enter Germany. A few thousands in the beginning swelled to hundreds of thousands towards and after the end of the war. Among the first arrivals there was a disproportionate amount of Communist agitators which wormed its way into Germany's Socialist movement, which already was dominated by Jewish intellectuals. In Germany, because of the Allied blockade, the suffering of the civilian population had already become severe and demoralizing and exactly after the Russians were forced to sign the peace-treaty of Brest-Litowsk, the unions struck a mortal blow to Germany's war effort by striking the munitions factories. The planned offensive was thereby sufficiently delayed to permit the Americans to arrive with their unlimited supplies and after another year of hopeless resistance and president Wilson's reasonable sounding peace offer, revolution broke out in Germany.

The war was lost and in Versailles Wilson's proposals were wiped off the table and a peace was dictated to the newly formed German democracy, the insanity of which doomed it to an early demise at the day of its birth. The Communists under their Jewish leadership (Liebknecht, Luxemburg, Toller, Eisner, Radek, Kuhn, etc.) started bloody uprisings in Berlin, Munich and Hungary. Hostages, including women, were being taken and murdered, thousands were dying in street fights with police and gendarmes. Toller, leader of the Red Army which formed in Bavaria, recommended that most Germans should be gassed (aha!) and received congratulations and promises of help from Lenin personally. The new Socialist president, Ebert, was finally forced to call on the remnants of the German army, and with the help of the newly formed Freikorps (mostly patriotic former members of the army), the Bolsheviks along with the incursions of Poles across the newly enforced German borders were finally defeated. It should be emphasized at this point that nearly all the leaders of the Communist terrorists were foreign Jews. During the accelerating inflation certain businessmen and well connected financiers, again the majority being Jewish, were able to amass fortunes, which helped the rise of anti-Semitism in the country suffering from defeat and incredible hunger, thanks to the continuing British blockade, which was prolonged for one year after the armistice and caused the deaths of approximately 800,000 Germans, mostly women and infants.
When the populace observed newly-rich Jewesses in their fancy fur coats, bedecked with jewelry, entering expensive nightclubs with their escorts while veterans with missing arms or legs are sitting on the sidewalks, shivering in their worn uniforms and trying to sell some pencils or whatnot to earn a few pennies for their modest needs, it did not go over too well with them, even if the majority of the professional Jews, professors, engineers, doctors, government employees, etc., shared the misery with the rest of the people. My mother's father, a retired small businessman, made the mistake to invest his savings in English industrial stocks long before the war and lost every penny of it when, after the war, the English, like all the other "victors," stole every bit of private German property they could lay their hands on. The Americans got away with "taking-over" all German patents and sold them to the public at a dollar apiece. An acquaintance of mine, Dr. Becker, a German immigrant chemist, bought a sufficiently large amount of them to found Allied Chemical Corp. on the basis of their content. The last time I visited him, in 1941, he was still president of Allied and resided in an incredibly beautiful, Roman style villa in Bolton-Landing on the shore of Lake George in upstate New York. A further boost to the rising anti-Semitism was given by a rash of large scale financial scandals caused by recent Jewish arrivals. Names like Barmat, Sklarek, Kutisker, Levy, Lewin were as well recognized by the public of those days as Boesky and Milken are today. Most of them wound up in jail and did not become lecturers on financial operations after short stints of incarceration as seems fashionable in our day. But massive damage had been done, not only to the tottering finances of the Reich but also to the standing of the Jewish community in Germany.


Next, consider the listening to foreign radio stations. In Europe, there were fewer transmitting stations than here in America, but they were much more powerful and in centrally located Germany you could always listen to the transmissions from Austria, Switzerland, France, England, Denmark, Sweden, Russia, Poland and Hungary. They all disseminated programs in German language and most of them contained vicious anti-German and specially anti-Hitler propaganda as well as outright lies about the terrible conditions in Germany under "Nazi terror." You were not supposed to listen to these radio transmissions but most people did and it was technically not feasible to jam the powerful foreign long- and middle-wave transmitters without causing disturbing interferences of your own radio programs. One evening, while listening to radio Moscow, the bell was ringing and there stood the lady living in the apartment below us. Her husband was the Blockward of our building and responsible to take care of all problems of or with the tenants and to make sure that everybody behaved nicely and in accordance with the rules and regulations of the new era. How did she phrase her demands and threats? "Dear Mr. Weichardt, if you have to listen to radio Moscow, wouldn't you be so kind and turn the volume down a bit in order to avoid possible trouble for you or us." In today's Germany, under the most democratic government in the country's history, if you are found to possess two or more copies of this letter you could wind up in jail up to five years for making light of "Nazi crimes" and inciting race hatred. House searches without warrant are the order of the day, confiscation of "incriminating" printed material and privately-owned office equipment are rampant and if you are lucky (and well insured), your insurance company will be stuck with the ensuing expenses if a bunch of paid ruffians burns down your place of business.

Let's go back to Nazi terrorism. There were, as everybody knows, concentration camps. Who were the inmates? Mostly vagrants, bums and, yes, some obnoxious politicians of the leftist variety (come to think of it, not a bad idea at all) who had previously caused the ire of the new rulers. Strangely enough--hardly any Jews, who after all, according to Hitler, where at the root of most of the country's troubles. According to a typically nasty postwar British anti-German propaganda movie (HISTORY OF THE SS), the pre-war population of the concentration camps never exceeded ten thousand inmates, out of a population of nearly seventy million! I should say this is pretty good, when compared with the twenty thousand penal institutions and camps (Solzhenitsyn, Gulag Archipelago) in Soviet Russia, which at the same time had--quoting President Roosevelt--the most progressive government in Europe. While confined in a camp the inmates had to perform labor, I am sure sometimes hard labor, which was tough on the mostly overweight politicians. They learned new skills, were well fed and had excellent medical facilities available in case of illness or injury. After their release some actually became useful citizens.
Here I must state categorically that during my nearly six years under the Hitler regime, living at the center of power in Berlin with my father, as a journalist in constant touch with the authorities (he had, e.g., to attend, together with other journalists, confidential monthly meetings with Propaganda Minister Goebbels to obtain political directives and listen to pep talks) and aware of all nasty anti-government rumors, I had neither a single personal contact with anybody who had suffered physical harm from the authorities of the Third Reich, nor did I hear from anybody among my rather extended acquaintances that they knew of somebody who had. Yes, yes, I know there was the nasty Röhm affair, which I shall discuss a little later, and which was an interparty affair. The exodus of Jews began immediately, principally of the well-to-do and the prominent, some of whom felt that they had exposed themselves politically. They could leave with all their property but had to pay a tax of ten percent on their liquid assets according to a law already enacted under the Weimar government. This caused a major hemorrhage of German foreign exchange reserves and forced a change in the law after which, a year later, emigrants had to pay a ninety percent tax on their liquid assets and were forced to sell all their real estate. Emigrants to Palestine were eventually exempted from all taxes. The not so well-to-do, while never hindered by the German government, were not so lucky, because no country was willing to receive them if they did not bring along sufficient capital to sustain themselves over an indefinite period. The remaining Jews also had to suffer from the vicious propaganda which was launched abroad by the Jewish-controlled press and by some of the émigrés.

Toward the end of 1933 Hitler took the first major step towards the resurrection of the Reich's authority and independence. He demanded from the League of Nations, that club of vacationing parasites on the shores of Lake Geneva, that after Germany had fulfilled all the onerous conditions imposed on her by the dictate of Versailles, including essentially total disarmament, the other signatories should now adhere to the agreed upon condition and begin with their much talked about disarmament. This was an absolutely fair demand, since Germany was surrounded by her former enemies possessing large and superbly equipped armies. Of course this is denied today, but France had the largest air force in the world, England the largest fleet, Russia the largest number of active soldiers and tanks, Poland heavily armed and sounding as aggressive as ever, the Czech army probably the most efficient of the lot and Italy, under Mussolini, was at that time still hostile towards Germany. The silence answering Hitler's demand was deafening, whereupon Germany left the League and suspended all future tribute payments coming due.

To survive economically Germany was forced to conduct most of her foreign trade on the basis of exchange and went off the gold standard. The last measure was probably the real beginning of World War II. The world's banking system simply could not permit that this upstart free his nation from their shackles. If his bold try became a success their whole empire would begin to crumble because others might be emboldened to try the same gambit. Horrors over horrors, it did become a success. Germany's economic recovery became meteoric, unemployment disappeared rapidly while the rest of the world was floundering in an ever-worsening depression. It would take a major volume to describe the details of changes which took place in the first year of the Third Reich and the enthusiasm with which the vast majority of the people greeted the new system. When, at the end of 1933, after leaving the League of Nations, elections were called for the approval of the new and forceful foreign policy, 92.5% of the eligible voters backed the new government. Since I voted in several elections, together with my mother (!), until the fall of 1938, when I left for the US, I can assure everybody that there was never any coercion or fraud involved in these elections. The only serious crisis developed during the spring of 1934, when Hitler had to make the surely agonizing decision to liquidate his close friend, Röhm. By then the SA ranks had swollen by millions, many of them former Communists. So many people wanted to become registered party members that during the previous year a moratorium had to be declared on all further applications for membership. Röhm, as the chief of the SA, was a major power factor and had greatly assisted the rise of Hitler by supplying arms and funds from the army and securing the safety of the streets from the attacks of the Bolshevik assassins with his storm troops. Because of the incessant hate campaign of such professional haters as Roosevelt, Churchill, Vansittart, etc. ("Germany is getting too strong, we have to destroy her again." "We will force a war on Hitler, if he likes it or not." "The coming war is not a war against the German people, but against Hitler and his Nazis;" and ad nauseam), it became obvious that Germany had to create an army which would be adequate to protect the Reich against her belligerent opponents. This was impossible without the complete collaboration of the small but very professional Reichswehr and its generals. Röhm wanted his SA incorporated into the new army and also eyed the position of minister of defense, which he considered due to him. This was anathema to the very conservative general staff. Among the SA there were many to whom the utterly peaceful takeover was distasteful and who would have liked a little more ruckus to get even with some of their former enemies. There also was a large segment among them which was left-leaning and desired a more "socialistic" approach to the country's problems. Hitler knew, of course, that, if he decided for Röhm and against the Reichswehr, he would face a major upheaval and possible destruction of all his hard-won gains. He was therefore forced to acquiesce in the generals' demands and liquidate Röhm. To avoid any revolt within the SA, this had to be done with surgical precision and cost the lives of eighty-eight men. Please compare this number with those of Stalin's contemporary purging of his army. [The homosexuality of the Röhm camorra had been reported to Hitler but the latter had been unwilling to believe it. When he learned that the clique planned to overthrow him he went personally to their den of iniquity that night and, armed with a pistol, arrested Röhm and others.]

Here is a little story about a Jewish lady victimized by the Röhm affair. Among the victims of the purge was a certain Dr. Schmidt. His was a case of mistaken identity. Not a too surprising occurrence with a name like Schmidt in Germany. His Jewish wife was understandably upset about this and went in a rage directly to Hitler's office. Greatly embarrassed by the lady's rightful complaint, he not only offered all kinds of compensations but also to make her an honorary Aryan with all the ensuing privileges. She took the compensations but declined the honorary Aryan and left for the US. When she told me the story she had become the wife of a colleague of mine at the company I worked for in Binghamton, NY.
In the meantime, back in the good old USA, Mr. Roosevelt's hatred of everything German in general and Hitler specifically, became pathological. To understand his rage one must compare the rapid recovery of small resourceless country which had been held down and ransacked by its enemies with the meager results of his policies as president of the then still richest nation in the world, which was suffering under a seemingly never ending depression. Whi

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Ahmed wrote:  

1. The engineered clash between Fascism and Communism used to buttress Zionism into Palestine and steal the country to impose Israel (i.e. Talmudist criminal base)

First of all, why should Hitler care about where the Jews went, as long as they got out of his own country where he didn't want them? It's not his problem if the Zionists plan on stealing someone else's country and forcing them to live there. Hitler only looked to benefit Germans first and Aryans of the world second if they were smart enough to stand with Germany.

Second, if the Rothschilds and the Warburgs financed Hitler to get the Jews out of Germany and he was such an agent of theirs, why the hell did they get so flaming, lunatic mad when he started issuing his own money in defiance of them?  Surely, he was still forcing Jews out of Germany as much as he could and accomplishing what the king-zio-jews set out to accomplish, so why such a big old fuss? Or could it be that getting Jews out of Germany was not nearly as important to them as continued domination of Germany, parasite to host, as well as every other central-banked country in the world?


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MAY 11, 2010 11:54AM
How Hitler defied the bankers


Many people take joy in saying Wall Street and Jewish bankers "financed Hitler." There is plenty of documented evidence that Wall Street and Jewish bankers did indeed help finance Hitler at first, partly because it allowed the bankers to get rich (as I will describe below) and partly in order to control Stalin. However, when Germany broke free from the bankers, the bankers declared a world war against Germany.
When we look at all the facts, the charge that "Jews financed Hitler" becomes irrelevant. Los Angeles Attorney Ellen Brown discusses this topic in her book Web Of Debt...
 
When Hitler came to power, Germany was hopelessly broke. The Treaty of Versailles had imposed crushing reparations on the German people, demanding that Germans repay every nation's costs of the war. These costs totaled three times the value of all the property in Germany.
 
Private currency speculators caused the German mark to plummet, precipitating one of the worst runaway inflations in modern times. A wheelbarrow full of 100 billion-mark banknotes could not buy a loaf of bread. The national treasury was empty. Countless homes and farms were lost to speculators and to private (Jewish controlled) banks. Germans lived in hovels. They were starving.
 
Nothing like this had ever happened before - the total destruction of the national currency, plus the wiping out of people's savings and businesses.  On top of this came a global depression.  Germany had no choice but to succumb to debt slavery under international (mainly Jewish) bankers until 1933, when the National Socialists came to power. At that point the German government thwarted the international banking cartels by issuing its own money. World Jewry responded by declaring a global boycott against Germany.
 
Hitler began a national credit program by devising a plan of public works that included flood control, repair of public buildings and private residences, and construction of new roads, bridges, canals, and port facilities. All these were paid for with money that no longer came from the private international bankers.
 
The projected cost of these various programs was fixed at one billion units of the national currency. To pay for this, the German government (not the international bankers) issued bills of exchange, called Labor Treasury Certificates. In this way the National Socialists put millions of people to work, and paid them with Treasury Certificates.
 
Under the National Socialists, Germany's money wasn't backed by gold (which was owned by the international bankers). It was essentially a receipt for labor and materials delivered to the government. Hitler said, "For every mark issued, we required the equivalent of a mark's worth of work done, or goods produced." The government paid workers in Certificates. Workers spent those Certificates on other goods and services, thus creating more jobs for more people. In this way the German people climbed out of the crushing debt imposed on them by the international bankers.
 
Within two years, the unemployment problem had been solved, and Germany was back on its feet. It had a solid, stable currency, with no debt, and no inflation, at a time when millions of people in the United States and other Western countries (controlled by international bankers) were still out of work.  Within five years, Germany went from the poorest nation in Europe to the richest.
 
Germany even managed to restore foreign trade, despite the international bankers' denial of foreign credit to Germany, and despite the global boycott by Jewish-owned industries. Germany succeeded in this by exchanging equipment and commodities directly with other countries, using a barter system that cut the bankers out of the picture. Germany flourished, since barter eliminates national debt and trade deficits. (Venezuela does the same thing today when it trades oil for commodities, plus medical help, and so on. Hence the bankers are trying to squeeze Venezuela.)
 
Germany's economic freedom was short-lived; but it left several monuments, including the famous Autobahn, the world's first extensive superhighway.
 
Hjalmar Schacht, a Rothschild agent who was temporarily head of the German central bank,  summed it up thus... An American banker had commented, "Dr. Schacht, you should come to America. We've lots of money and that's real banking." Schacht replied, "You should come to Berlin. We don't have money. That's real banking."
 
(Schact, the Rothschild agent, actually supported the private international bankers against Germany, and was rewarded by having all charges against him dropped at the Nuremberg trials.)
 
This economic freedom made Hitler extremely popular with the German people.  Germany was rescued from English economic theory, which says that all currency must be borrowed against the gold owned by a private and secretive banking cartel -- such as the Federal Reserve, or the Central Bank of Europe -- rather than issued by the government for the benefit of the people.
 
Canadian researcher Dr. Henry Makow (who is Jewish himself) says the main reason why the bankers arranged for a world war against Germany was that Hitler sidestepped the bankers by creating his own money, thereby freeing the German people. Worse, this freedom and prosperity threatened to spread to other nations. Hitler had to be stopped!
 
Makow quotes from the 1938 interrogation of C. G. Rakovsky, one of the founders of Soviet Bolsevism and a Trotsky intimate. Rakovsky was tried in show trials in the USSR under Stalin. According to Rakovsky, Hitler was at first funded by the international bankers, through the bankers' agent Hjalmar Schacht. The bankers financed Hitler in order to control Stalin, who had usurped power from their agent Trotsky. Then Hitler became an even bigger threat than Stalin when Hitler started printing his own money.
(Stalin came to power in 1922, which was eleven years before Hitler came to power.)
 
Rakovsky said:
 
"Hitler took over the privilege of manufacturing money, and not only physical moneys, but also financial ones. He took over the machinery of falsification and put it to work for the benefit of the people. Can you possibly imagine what would have come if this had infected a number of other states?" (Henry Makow, "Hitler Did Not Want War," http://www.savethemales.com March 21, 2004).
 
Economist Henry C K Liu writes of Germany's remarkable transformation:
 
"The Nazis came to power in 1933 when the German economy was in total collapse, with ruinous war-reparation obligations and zero prospects for foreign investment or credit. Through an independent monetary policy of sovereign credit and a full-employment public-works program, the Third Reich was able to turn a bankrupt Germany, stripped of overseas colonies, into the strongest economy in Europe within four years, even before armament spending began." (Henry C. K. Liu, "Nazism and the German Economic Miracle," Asia Times (May 24, 2005).
 
In Billions for the Bankers, Debts for the People (1984), Sheldon Emry commented:
 
"Germany issued debt-free and interest-free money from 1935 on, which accounts for Germany's startling rise from the depression to a world power in five years. The German government financed its entire operations from 1935 to 1945 without gold, and without debt. It took the entire Capitalist and Communist world to destroy the German revolution, and bring Europe back under the heel of the Bankers."
 
These facts do not appear in any textbooks today, since Jews own most publishing companies. What does appear is the disastrous runaway inflation suffered in 1923 by the Weimar Republic, which governed Germany from 1919 to 1933. Today's textbooks use this inflation to twist truth into its opposite. They cite the radical devaluation of the German mark as an example of what goes wrong when governments print their own money, rather than borrow it from private cartels.
 
In reality, the Weimar financial crisis began with the impossible reparations payments imposed at the Treaty of Versailles. Hjalmar Schacht – the Rothschild agent who was currency commissioner for the Republic -- opposed letting the German government print its own money...
 
"The Treaty of Versailles is a model of ingenious measures for the economic destruction of Germany.  Germany could not find any way of holding its head above the water, other than by the inflationary expedient of printing bank notes."
 
Schact echoes the textbook lie  that Weimar inflation was caused when the German government printed its own money.  However, in his 1967 book The Magic of Money, Schact let the cat out of the bag by revealing that it was the PRIVATELY-OWNED Reichsbank, not the German government, that was pumping new currency into the economy. Thus, the PRIVATE BANK caused the Weimar hyper-inflation.
Like the U.S. Federal Reserve, the Reichsbank was overseen by appointed government officials, but was operated for private gain. What drove the wartime inflation into hyperinflation was speculation by foreign investors, who sold the mark short, betting on its decreasing value. In the manipulative device known as the short sale, speculators borrow something they don't own, sell it, and then "cover" by buying it back at the lower price.

Speculation in the German mark was made possible because the PRIVATELY OWNED Reichsbank (not yet under Nazi control) made massive amounts of currency available for borrowing. This currency, like U.S. currency today, was created with accounting entries on the bank's books. Then the funny-money was lent at compound interest. When the Reichsbank could not keep up with the voracious demand for marks, other private banks were allowed to create marks out of nothing, and to lend them at interest. The result was runaway debt and inflation.
 
Thus, according to Schacht himself, the German government did not cause the Weimar hyperinflation. On the contrary, the government (under the National Socialists) got hyperinflation under control. The National Socialists put the Reichsbank under strict government regulation, and took prompt corrective measures to eliminate foreign speculation. One of those measures was to eliminate easy access to funny-money loans from private banks. Then Hitler got Germany back on its feet by having the public government issue Treasury Certificates.
 
Schacht , the Rotchschild agent, disapproved of this government fiat money, and wound up getting fired as head of the Reichsbank when he refused to issue it. Nonetheless, he acknowledged in his later memoirs that allowing the government to issue the money it needed did not produce the price inflation predicted by classical economic theory, which says that currency must be borrowed from private cartels.
 
What causes hyper-inflation is uncontrolled speculation. When speculation is coupled with debt (owed to private banking cartels) the result is disaster. On the other hand, when a government issues currency in carefully measured ways, it causes supply and demand to increase together, leaving prices unaffected. Hence there is no inflation, no debt, no unemployment, and no need for income taxes.
 
Naturally this terrifies the bankers, since it eliminates their powers. It also terrifies Jews, since their control of banking allows them to buy the media, the government, and everything else.
 
Therefore, to those who delight in saying "Jews financed Hitler," I ask that they please look at all the facts.

Maybe the  answer you don't want to hear because it will upset all your big-time conspiracy theories of all-powerful chessmasters on the grand chessboard is that Hitler was the genuine article and he used the Rothschilds, not the other way around. That certainly would be more in line with why they were so hell-bent on destroying his example, not just in WW II but through a massive, unending avalanche of propaganda in all the years since (see the previous post and specifically the second anti-german propaganda video). And no, he certainly wasn't ignorant of bankster power all over the world, including England and the USA (all central banked countries), as this speech given way back in 1922 proves:

http://theinfounderground.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=10864

MUNICH

SPEECH OF JULY 28, 1922

. . . IT IS a battle which began nearly 120 years ago, at the moment when the Jew was granted citizen rights in the European States. The political emancipation of the Jews was the beginning of an attack of delirium. For thereby they were given full citizen rights and equality to a people which was much more clearly and definitely a race apart than all others, that has always formed and will form a State within the State. That did not happen perhaps at one blow, but it came about as things come about today and always do come about: first a little finger, then a second and a third, and so bit by bit until at last a people that in the eighteenth century still appeared completely alien had won equal citizen-rights with ourselves.

And it was precisely the same in the economic sphere. The vast process of the industrialization of the peoples meant the confluence of great masses of workmen in the towns. Thus great hordes of people arose, and these, more's the pity, were not properly dealt with by those whose moral duty it was to concern themselves for their welfare. Parallel with this was a gradual 'moneyfication' of the whole of the nation's labor-strength. 'Share-capital' was in the ascendant, and thus bit by bit the Stock Exchange came to control the whole national economy.

The directors of these institutions were, and are without exception, Jews. I say 'without exception,' for the few non-Jews who had a share in them are in the last resort nothing but screens, shop-window Christians, whom one needs in order, for the sake of the masses, to keep up the appearance that these institutions were after all founded as a natural outcome of the needs and the economic life of all peoples alike, and were not, as was the fact, institutions which correspond only with the essential characteristics of the Jewish people and are the outcome of those characteristics.

Then Europe stood at the parting of the ways. Europe began to divide into two halves, into West Europe and Central and Eastern Europe. At first Western Europe took the lead in the process of industrialization. Especially in England crowds of farm laborers, sons of farmers, or even ruined farmers themselves, streamed into the towns and there formed a new fourth estate.

But here one fact is of more importance than we are accustomed to admit: this England, like France, had relatively few Jews. And the consequence of that was that the great masses, concentrated in the towns, did not come into immediate contact with this alien nation, and thus feelings of aversion which must otherwise necessarily have arisen did not find sufficient nourishment for their development. In the end the fifty or sixty thousand Jews in England - there was hardly that number in England then - with supreme ease were able so to 'Europeanize' themselves that they remained hidden from the primitive eye of the ordinary member of the public and as 'Captains of Industry,' and especially as representatives of capital on a large scale, they could appear no longer as foreigners but themselves became Englishmen.

This accounts for the fact that anti-Semitism in these States could never attain to any native vigor; for the same is true of France. And precisely for this reason in these countries it was possible to introduce the system which we have to represent to ourselves under the concept of 'Democracy.' There it was possible to create a State-form whose meaning could only be the mastery of the herd over the intelligentsia, the mastery over true energy through the dead weight of massed numbers. In other words: it must be supremely easy for the Jewish intelligentsia, small in numbers and therefore completely hidden in the body of the British people, so to work upon the masses that the latter, quite unconscious of whom they were obeying, in the end did but serve the purposes of this small stratum of society.

Through the press propaganda, through the use of the organs of information, it was possible in England to found the great model parties. Already in those early days they saw to it shrewdly that here were always two or three groups apparently hostile to each other, but in fact all hanging on a gold thread, the whole designed to take account of a human characteristic - that the longer a man possesses an object, the more readily he grows tired of it. He craves something new: therefore one needs two parties. The one is in office, the other in opposition. When the one has played itself out, then the opposition party comes into power, and the party which has had its day is now in its turn the opposition. After twenty years the new party itself has once more played itself out and the game begins afresh. In truth this is a highly ingenious mill in which the interests of a nation are ground very small. As everyone knows, this system is given some such name as 'Self-Government of a People.'

Besides this we always find two great catchwords, 'Freedom' and 'Democracy,' used, I might say, as signboards. 'Freedom': under that term is understood, at least amongst those in authority who in fact carry on the Government, the possibility of an unchecked plundering of the masses of the people to which no resistance can be offered. The masses themselves naturally believe that under the term 'freedom' they possess the right to a quite peculiar freedom of motion - freedom to move the tongue and to say what they choose, freedom to move about the streets, etc. A bitter deception!

And the same is true of democracy. In general even in the early days both England and France had already been bound with the fetters of slavery. With, I might say, a brazen security these States are fettered with Jewish chains....

In consequence of this widespread aversion it was more difficult for the Jew to spread infection in the political sphere, and especially so since traditionally loyalty was centered in a person: the form of the State was a monarchy, and power did not lie with an irresponsible majority. Thus the Jew saw that here it was possible for an enlightened despotism to arise based upon the army, the bureaucracy, and the masses of the people still unaffected by the Jewish poison.

The intelligentsia at that time was almost exclusively German, big business and the new industries were in German hands, while the last reservoir of a people's strength, the peasantry, was throughout healthy. In such conditions if, as industry grew, a fourth estate was formed in the towns, there was the danger that this fourth estate might ally itself with the monarchy, and thus with its support there might arise a popular monarchy or a popular 'Kaisertum' which would be ready and willing to give a mortal blow to those powers of international supra-State finance which were at that time beginning to grow in influence. This was not impossible: in the history of Germany princes had from time to time found themselves forced, as in Brandenburg, to turn against the nobility and seek popular support.

But this possibility constituted a grave danger for Jewry. If the great masses of the new industrialized workmen had come into Nationalist hands and like a true social leaven had penetrated the whole nation, if the liberation of the different estates had followed step by step in an organic development and the State had later looked to them for support, then there would have been created what many hoped for in November, 1918, viz., a national social State. For Socialism in itself is anything but an international creation. As a noble conception it has indeed grown up exclusively in Aryan hearts: it owes its intellectual glories only to Aryan brains. It is entirely alien to the Jew.

The Jew will always be the born champion of private capital in its worst form, that of unchecked exploitation.... Voltaire, as well as Rousseau, together with our German Fichte and many another - they are all without exception united in their recognition that the Jew is not only a foreign element differing in his essential character, which is utterly harmful to the nature of the Aryan, but that the Jewish people in itself stands against us as our deadly foe and so will stand against us always and for all time.

The master-stroke of the Jew was to claim the leadership of the fourth estate: he founded the Movement both of the Social Democrats and the Communists. His policy was twofold: he had his 'apostles' in both political camps. Amongst the parties of the Right he encouraged those features which were most repugnant to the people - the passion for money, unscrupulous methods in trade which were employed so ruthlessly as to give rise to the proverb 'Business, too, marches over corpses.' And the Jew attacked the parties of the Right. Jews wormed their way into the families of the upper classes: it was from the Jews that the latter took their wives. The result was that in a short time it was precisely the ruling class which became in its character completely estranged from its own people.

And this fact gave the Jew his opportunity with the parties of the Left. Here he played the part of the common demagogue. Two means enabled him to drive away in disgust the whole intelligentsia of the nation from the leadership of the workers. First: his international attitude, for the native intelligence of the country is prepared to make sacrifices, it will do anything for the life of the people, but it cannot believe in the mad view that through the denial of that national life, through a refusal to defend the rights of one's own people, through the breaking down of the national resistance to the foreigner, it is possible to raise up a people and make it happy. That it cannot do, and so it remained at a distance.

And the Jew's second instrument was the Marxist theory in and for itself. For directly one went on to assert that property as such is theft, directly one deserted the obvious formula that only the natural wealth of a country can and should be common property, but that that which a man creates or gains through his honest labor is his own, immediately the economic intelligentsia with its nationalist outlook could, here too, no longer co-operate: for this intelligentsia was bound to say to itself that this theory meant the collapse of any human civilization whatever. Thus the Jew succeeded in isolating this new movement of the workers from all the nationalist elements....

More and more so to influence the masses that he persuaded those of the Right that the faults of the Left were the faults of the German workman, and similarly he made it appear to those of the Left that the faults of the Right were simply the faults of the so-called 'Bourgeois,' and neither side noticed that on both sides the faults were the result of a scheme planned by alien devilish agitators. And only so is it possible to explain how this dirty joke of world history could come to be that Stock Exchange Jews should become the leaders of a Workers Movement. It is a gigantic fraud: world history has seldom seen its like.

And then we must ask ourselves: what are the final aims of this development?

So soon as millions of men have had it hammered into them that they are so oppressed and enslaved that it matters not what their personal attitude may be to their people, their State, or economic life, then a kind of passive resistance must result, which sooner or later will do fatal damage to the national economy. Through the preaching of the Marxist economic theory the national economy must go to ruin. We see the results in Russia: the end of the whole economic life of the State: the handing over of the community to the international world of finance. And the process is furthered through the organization of the 'political strike.' Often there are no adequate economic grounds for a strike, but there are always political grounds and plenty of them.

And to this must be added the practical political sabotage of the State, since the thought of the individual is concentrated on the idea of international solidarity. It is clear that a nation's economic life depends upon the strength of a national State: it does not live on such phrases as 'Appeasement of the peoples' or 'Freedom of the Peoples.'

At the moment when no people supports the economic life of a nation, ready to give it its protection, at that moment economic life collapses. The breaking in pieces of a nation's strength is the end of a nation's prosperity, the national existence must cease altogether.

And one can see constantly how wonderfully the Stock Exchange Jew and the leader of the workers, how the Stock Exchange organ and the journal of the workers, co-operate. They both pursue one common policy and a single aim. Moses Kohn on the one side encourages his association to refuse the workers' demands, while his brother Isaac in the factory incites the masses and shouts, 'Look at them! they only want to oppress you! Shake off your fetters....'

His brother takes care that the fetters are well and truly forged. The Stock Exchange organ seeks without intermission to encourage fevered speculation and unparalleled corners in grain and in the food of the people, while the workmen's newspaper lets off all its guns on the masses, telling them that bread is dearer and this, that, and the other is dearer: up Proletarians! endure it no longer-down with . . .

How long can this process last? It means the utter destruction not only of economic life, but of the people. It is clear that all these apostles who talk their tongues out of their heads, but who spend the night in the Hotel Excelsior, travel in express trains, and spend their leave for their health in Nice - these people do not exert their energies for love of the people. No, the people is not to profit, it shall merely be brought into dependence on these men. The backbone of its independence, its own economic life, is to be destroyed, that it may the more surely relapse into the golden fetters of the perpetual interest-slavery of the Jewish race. And this process will end when suddenly out of the masses someone arises who seizes the leadership, finds other comrades and fans into flame the passions which have been held in check and looses them against the deceivers.

That is the lurking danger, and the Jew can meet it in one way only - by destroying the hostile national intelligentsia. That is the inevitable ultimate goal of the Jew in his revolution. And this aim he must pursue; he knows well enough his economics brings no blessing: his is no master people: he is an exploiter: the Jews are a people of robbers. He has never founded any civilization, though he has destroyed civilizations by the hundred. He possesses nothing of his own creation to which he can point.

Everything that he has is stolen. Foreign peoples, foreign workmen build him his temples, it is foreigners who create and work for him: it is foreigners who shed their blood for him. He knows no 'people's army': he has only hired mercenaries who are ready to go to death on his behalf. He has no art of his own: bit by bit he has stolen it all from the other peoples or has watched them at work and then made his copy. He does not even know how merely to preserve the precious things which others have created: as he turns the treasures over in his hand they are transformed into dirt and dung. He knows that he cannot maintain any State for long. That is one of the differences between him and the Aryan. True, the Aryan also has dominated other peoples. But how? He entered on the land, he cleared the forests; out of wildernesses he has created civilizations, and he has not used the others for his own interests, he has, so far as their capacities permitted, incorporated them into his State and through him art and science were brought to flower. In the last resort it was the Aryan and the Aryan alone who could form States and could set them on their path to future greatness.

All that the Jew cannot do. And because he cannot do it, therefore all his revolutions must be 'international.' They must spread as a pestilence spreads. He can build no State and say 'See here, Here stands the State, a model for all. Now copy us!' He must take care that the plague does not die, that it is not limited to one place, or else in a short time this plague-hearth would burn itself out. So he is forced to bring every mortal thing to an international expansion. For how long? Until the whole world sinks in ruins and brings him down with it in the midst of the ruins.

That process today in Russia is practically complete. The whole of present-day Russia has nothing to show beyond a ruined civilization, a colony ripe for development through alien capital, and even this capital in order to supply resources in labor for its practical work must introduce Aryan intellects, since for this again the Jew is useless. Here, too, he is all rapacity, never satisfied. He knows no ordered economy, he knows no ordered body of administrators. Over there in Russia he is laying his hands on everything. They take the noble's diamonds to help 'the People.' The diamonds then stray into foreign societies and are no more seen. He seizes to himself the treasures of the churches, but not to feed the people: oh no! Everything wanders away and leaves not a trace behind. In his greed he has become quite senseless: he can keep hold of nothing: he has only within him the instinct for destruction, and so he himself collapses with the treasure that he has destroyed.

It is a tragic fate: we have often grown excited over the death of a criminal: if an anarchist is shot in Spain we raise a mighty howl over 'the sacrifice of valuable human blood' . . . and here in the East thirty million human beings are being slowly martyred - done to death, some on the scaffold, some by machine guns . . . millions upon millions through starvation.... A whole people is dying, and now we can perhaps understand how it was possible that formerly all the civilizations of Mesopotamia disappeared without a trace so that one can only with difficulty find in the desert sand the remains of these cities. We see how in our own day whole countries die out under this scourge of God, and we see how this scourge is threatening Germany, too, and how with us our own people in mad infatuation is contributing to bring upon itself the same yoke, the same misery.

We know that the Revolution which began in 1918 has covered perhaps but the first third of its course. Two things, however, there are which must scourge it forward upon its way: economic causes and political causes. On the economic side, the ever-growing distress, and in the political sphere, are not nearly all Germans in their hearts - let each one admit it - in despair when they consider the situation which leaves us quite defenseless in face of a Europe which is so hostile to Germany? AND WHY IS EUROPE HOSTILE? WE SEE HOW OVER THERE IN THIS OTHER EUROPE IT IS NOT THE PEOPLES WHICH AGITATE AGAINST US, IT IS THE SECRET POWER OF THE ORGANIZED PRESS WHICH CEASELESSLY POURS NEW POISON INTO THE HEARTS OF THESE PEOPLES.

And who are then these bandits of the press? The brothers and the relatives of the publishers of our own newspapers. And the capital source which provides the energy which here - and there - drives them forward is the Jewish dream of World Supremacy.

Today the idea of international solidarity has lost its force, one can still bring men out of the factories, but only by means of terrorism. If you ask for an honest answer the worker will confess that he no longer believes in this international solidarity. And the belief in the so-called reasonableness of the other peoples has gone too. How often have we been told that reason will lead them not to be too hard with us: true, reason should have moved them thus, but what did move them had nothing to do with reason. For here there is no question of the thought of reasonable peoples: it is the thought of a wild beast, tearing, raging in its unreason, that drives all of them to the same ruin as that to which we ourselves are driven.

So the masses of the people in Germany are becoming, in the political sphere, completely lost. Yet here and there people are beginning to get some practice in criticism. Slowly, cautiously, and yet with a certain accuracy the finger is being placed on the real wound of our people. And thus one comes to realize: if only this development goes on for a time, it might be possible that from Germany the light should come which is destined to light both Germany and the world to their salvation. And at that point the everlasting lie begins to work against us with every means in its power....

It is said, if one criticizes the state of affairs to which we have been brought today, that one is a reactionary, a monarchist, a pan-German. I ask you what would probably have been the state of Germany today if during these three years there had been no criticism at all? I believe that in fact there has been far, far too little criticism. OUR PEOPLE UNFORTUNATELY IS MUCH TOO UNCRITICAL, OR OTHERWISE IT WOULD LONG AGO HAVE NOT ONLY SEEN THROUGH MANY THINGS, BUT WOULD HAVE SWEPT THEM AWAY WITH ITS FIST! The crisis is developing towards its culmination. The day is not far distant when, for the reasons which I have stated, the German Revolution must be carried forward another step. The leaders know all too well that things cannot always go on as they are going today. One may raise prices ten times by 100 per cent, but it is doubtful if in the end even a German will accept a milliard of marks for his day's wage if in the last resort with his milliard-wage he must still starve. It is a question whether one will be able to keep up this great fraud upon the nation. There will come a day when this must stop - and therefore one must build for that day, before it comes.

And so now Germany is reaching that stage which Russia has drunk to the lees. Now in one last stupendous assault they will finally crush all criticism, all opposition, no, rather whatever honesty is still left to us, and that they will do the more rapidly the more clearly they see that the masses are beginning to understand one thing - National Socialist teaching.

Whether for the moment it comes to them under that name or under another, the fact is that everywhere more and more it is making headway. Today all these folk cannot yet belong to a single party, but, wherever you go, in Germany, yes almost in the whole world, you find already millions of thinking men who know that a State can be built only on a social foundation and they know also that the deadly foe of every social conception is the international Jew.

Every truly national idea is in the last resort social, i.e., he who is prepared so completely to adopt the cause of his people that he really knows no higher ideal than the prosperity of this - his own - people, he who has so taken to heart the meaning of our great song 'Deutschland, Deutschland uber alles,' that nothing in this world stands for him higher than this Germany, people and land, land and people, he is a Socialist! And he who in this people sympathizes with the poorest of its citizens, who in this people sees in every individual a valuable member of the whole community, and who recognizes that this community can flourish only when it is formed not of rulers and oppressed but when all according to their capacities fulfill their duty to their Fatherland and the community of the people and are valued accordingly, he who seeks to preserve the native vigor, the strength, and the youthful energy of the millions of working men, and who above all is concerned that our precious possession, our youth, should not before its time be used up in unhealthy harmful work - he is not merely a Socialist, but he is also National in the highest sense of that word.

It is the teaching of these facts which appears to the Jews as leaders of the Revolution today to constitute a threatening danger. And it is precisely this which more than anything else makes the Jew wish to get in his blow as soon as possible. For one thing he knows quite well: in the last resort there is only one danger which he has to fear-and that danger is this young Movement.

He knows the old parties. They are easily satisfied. Only endow them with a few seats as ministers or with similar posts and they are ready to go along with you. And in especial he knows one thing: they are so innocently stupid. In their case the truth of the old saying is proved afresh every day: 'Those whom the gods wish to destroy, they first strike with blindness.' They have been struck with blindness: therefore it follows that the gods wish to destroy them. Only look at these parties and their leaders, Stresemann and the rest of them. They are indeed not dangerous. They never go to the roots of the evil: they all still think that with forbearance, with humanity, with accommodation they can fight a battle which has not its equal in this world. Through gentleness they think that they must demonstrate to the enemy of the Left that they are ready for appeasement so as to stay the deadly cancerous ulcer through a policy of moderation.

No! A thousand times No! Here there are only two possibilities: either victory or defeat!

What today is the meaning of these great preparations for the decisive battle on the part of bolshevist Judaism?-

To make the nation defenseless in arms and to make the people defenseless in spirit.

Two great aims!

Abroad Germany is already humiliated. The State trembles before every French Negro-captain, the nation is no longer dangerous. And within Germany they have seen to it that arms should be taken away from the decent elements of the people and that in their stead Russian-Jewish-bolshevist bands should be armed. Only one thing remains still to do: viz., the muzzling of the spirit, above all the arrest of the evil 'agitators' - that is the name they give to those who dare to tell the people the truth. Not only are their organizations to be known to all, but the masses are to be incited against their persons. Just as the Jew could once incite the mob of Jerusalem against Christ, so today he must succeed in inciting folk who have been duped into madness to attack those who, God's truth! seek to deal with this people in utter honesty and sincerity. And so he begins to intimidate them, and he knows that this pressure in itself is enough to shut the mouths of hundreds, yes, of thousands. For they think, if I only hold my tongue, then I shall be safe in case they come into power. No, my friend. The only difference will be that I may hang perhaps still talking, while you will hang - in silence. Here, too, Russia can give us countless examples, and with us it will be the same story.

We know that the so-called 'Law for the Protection of the Republic' which comes from Berlin today is nothing else than a means for reducing all criticism to silence. We know, too, that no effort will be spared so that the last outstanding personalities - those who within Germany foresee the coming of disaster - shall in good time disappear. And to that end the population of North Germany will be scourged into opposition to Bavaria with every lie and every misrepresentation that comes to hand. Up there they have the feeling that in one corner of the Reich the spirit of the German people is not yet broken. And that is the point to which we National Socialists have to grapple ourselves. We National Socialists are, God's truth! perhaps the most loyal, the most devoted of all men to our German Fatherland. For three years we have waged a war, often against death and devil, but always only for our German Fatherland. We got so far that at the last, as crown of all our labors, we had to land in prison. But in spite of everything there is one thing we would say: We do make a distinction between a Government and the German Fatherland. When today here in the Landtag or in the Reichstag at Berlin some lousy half-Asiatic youth casts in our teeth the charge that we have no loyalty to the Reich, I beg you do not distress yourselves. The Bavarian people has sealed its loyalty to the Reich with its countless regiments which fought for the Reich and often sank under the earth two or three times. We are convinced, and that in the last resort is our one great faith, that out of this bitterest distress and this utter misery the German Reich will rise again, but not as now, not as the offspring of wretchedness and misery - we shall possess once again a true German Reich of freedom and of honor, a real Fatherland of the whole German people and not an asylum for alien swindlers. There is today constant talk about 'Federalism,' etc. I beg you not to abuse the Prussians while at the same time you grovel before the Jews, but show yourselves stiff-necked against the folk of Berlin. And if you do that, then you will have on your side in the whole of Germany millions and millions of Germans, whether they be Prussians or men of Baden, Wurttembergers, men of Saxony, or Germans of Austria. Now is the hour to stand stiff-necked and resist to the last!

We National Socialists who for three years have done nothing but preach - abused and insulted by all, by some mocked and scorned, by others traduced and slandered - we cannot retreat! For us there is only one path which leads straight ahead. We know that the fight which now is blazing will be a hard struggle. It will not be fought out in the court of the Reich at Leipzig, it will not be fought out in a cabinet at Berlin, it will be fought out through those factors which in their hard reality have ever up to the present time made world history. I heard recently in the speech of a minister that the rights of a State cannot be set aside through simple majority decisions, but only through treaties. BISMARCK ONCE USED DIFFERENT LANGUAGE ON THIS SUBJECT: HE THOUGHT THAT THE DESTINIES OF PEOPLES COULD BE DETERMINED NEITHER THROUGH MAJORITY DECISIONS NOR THROUGH TREATIES, BUT ONLY THROUGH BLOOD AND IRON.

On one point there should be no doubt: we will not let the Jews slit our gullets and not defend ourselves. Today in Berlin they may already be arranging their festival-dinners with the Jewish hangmen of Soviet Russia - that they will never do here. They may today begin to set up the Cheka - the Extraordinary Commission - in Germany, they may give it free scope, we surrender to such a Jewish Commission never! We have the conviction, firm as a rock, that, if in this State seven million men are determined to stand by their 'No' to the very last, the evil specter will collapse into nothingness in the rest of the Reich. For what Germany needs today, what Germany longs for ardently, is a symbol of power, and strength.

So as I come to the end of my speech I want to ask something of those among you who are young. And for that there is a very special reason. The old parties train their youth in the gift of the gab, we prefer to train them to use their bodily strength. For I tell you: the young man who does not find his way to the place where in the last resort the destiny of his people is most truly represented, only studies philosophy and in a time like this buries himself behind his books or sits at home by the fire, he is no German youth! I call upon you! Join our Storm Divisions! And however many insults and slanders you may hear if you do join, you all know that the Storm Divisions have been formed for our protection, for your protection, and at the same time not merely for the protection of the Movement, but for the protection of a Germany that is to be. If you are reviled and insulted, good luck to you, my boys! You have the good fortune already at eighteen or nineteen years of age to be hated by the greatest of scoundrels. What others can win only after a lifetime of toil, this highest gift of distinguishing between the honest man and the brigand, falls as a piece of luck into your lap while you are but youths. You can be assured that the more they revile you, the more we respect you. We know that if you were not there, none of us would make another speech. We know, we see clearly that our Movement would be cudgelled down if you did not protect it! You are the defense of a Movement that is called one day to remodel Germany in revolutionary fashion from its very foundations in order that there may come to birth what perhaps so many expected on the ninth of November: a German Reich and a Germanic and, so far as in us lies, a German Republic.

Every battle must be fought to the end - better that it come early than late. And he ever stands most securely who from the first goes to the fight with the greatest confidence. And this highest confidence we can carry with us in our hearts. For he who on our side is today the leader of the German people, God's truth! he has nothing to win but perhaps only everything to lose. He who today fights on our side cannot win great laurels, far less can he win great material goods - it is more likely that he will end up in jail. He who today is leader must be an idealist, if only for the reason that he leads those against whom it would seem that everything has conspired.

But in that very fact there lies an inexhaustible source of strength. The conviction that our Movement is not sustained by money or the lust for gold, but only by our love for the people, that must ever give us fresh heart, that must ever fill us with courage for the fray.

And as my last word, take with you this assurance: if this battle should not come, never would Germany win peace. Germany would decay and at the best would sink to ruin like a rotting corpse. But that is not our destiny. We do not believe that this misfortune which today our God sends over Germany has no meaning: it is surely the scourge which should and shall drive us to a new greatness, to a new power and glory, to a Germany which for the first time shall fulfill that which in their hearts millions of the best of our fellow countrymen have hoped for through the centuries and the millennia, to the Germany of the German people!

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"It's a good thing I'm not god for I would have crumpled this planet up a long time ago and tossed it in a scrap heap" Charles Giuliani - The Truth Hertz, July 15, 2010

Peace =  absence of all opposition to the NWO which as we all know is really the JWO

[Negentropic]

Two important paragraphs oddly missing from the previously posted link of "Under Two Flags" by Heinz Weichardt

"My next run-in with the authorities of the Third Reich happened about three years later and was a bit more ominous. I had just received the notification that my application for voluntary service in the newly-recruited army had been definitely denied and I was understandably very bitter because service in the armed forces was considered an honor and privilege, not an onerous duty. Instead of swallowing my badly injured pride I complained to everybody who would listen to me, ending my complaints with the caustic question: Why me, when even the top general of the Luftwaffe, Erhard Milch, had a Jewish father? Well it didn't take very long for the knock at the door. This time I faced three members of the Algemeine-SS. The situation was made more serious by my little Dachshund. She had a dislike for tall men in black uniform and immediately attacked the intruders, loudly barking and snapping. The SS retreated a few steps until I had taken control of the objecting animal. Precautionary shooting of pet animals was definitely not PC in Hitler's Germany. Besides, no member of a uniformed organization, except army and police, was ever permitted to carry firearms publicly in order to emphasize their non-military character. After the three men had entered our apartment, I was severely admonished for spreading insulting rumors about high-level army officers. All I could say was that I was absolutely sure that the father of General Erhard Milch was buried in the Jewish cemetery in Dessau, home of the famous Junkers aircraft works. I will never forget the stunned expressions on the faces of the three as they left, this time without apologies, in a huff. I did not hear from them again. Of course I knew that the statement to which they objected was true.

Another little story which characterizes the official attitude for behavior towards Jews was told to my by a very good friend. As a member of the stormtroops, he had to attend weekly meetings of his troop for political indoctrination and other matters. In Germany, as well as in most European countries, it was the custom that children and young men ceded their seats in crowded trains when a lady or elderly adult entered and could not find a seat. During one meeting of the troop the members were reminded to adhere to this rule and a wise guy asked the tricky question of what to do if the lady or elderly adult was obviously Jewish? After a short silence for reflection, the (pardon the expression) solomonic judgment was forthcoming: "Stormtroopers, in order to avoid this embarrassing situation, remain standing in trains which were apt to be crowded!" To some nice old Jewish lady I strongly recommend a ride on the New York subway or any other public conveyance. "


the complete link with the missing paragraphs incorporated is over here:

http://www.gnosticliberationfront.com/under_two_flags.htm

[Wimpy]

Negentropic, a long read but well worth it!  Thanks for the history lesson.

[Negentropic]

Some of the classier examples of nice Jew-directed and promoted anti-German propaganda. They set the parameters from the gutter to the sadomasochistic whorehouse and their asskissing shabbas goys like Quentin Tarantino can't get in line fast enough to take their bullshit and run with it:














































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[Ahmed]

Some of the classier examples of nice Jew-directed and promoted anti-German propaganda. They set the parameters from the gutter to the sadomasochistic whorehouse and their asskissing shabbas goys like Quentin Tarantino can't get in line fast enough to take their bullshit and run with it:

Fortunately, I haven't seen any of those  movies or read those  novels.

The criminals seem to hate Germany for the kindness her people showed them once. Germany made Talmudic Jews realize that they could be citizens like anyone else, it welcomed them into the fold; but a "Neschama" (superior) soul cannot co-exist with a "Nephesch" (inferior)  soul, "chosen people" can't work with 'goys' unless their function is prefixed with 'shabbos'. And thus psychosis manifests into rabid hate; for the Talmudist Jew thinks himself a human sent to rule a world of beasts, they can't stand to be shown that the accommodated, ordinary Jew can become an equal member of society free from delusions of supermacy. Their world, as it exists, is built on eternal conflict and destruction, sorcery, superstition, debasement, greed and violence; it's difficult for many of them to understand anything else. Evidently these sentiments are to be found in their artistic endeavours as well.

Another aspect of their Teutophobia is that Martin Luther was the most influencial European to stand up their system in so upfront a manner. The Talmudists feared, rightly so, that Germany would become an occidental bulwark that would insitagte the internal purge of criminal Jewry throughout Christendom. Israel Shahak and Bernard Lazare (quote below) have discussed these issues at length in  'Jewish History, Jewish Religion: The Weight of Three Thousand Years' and 'L'antisémitisme son histoire et ses causes'.

[Helphand]

A reply to the original poster. . .  

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  This article seems at best,  a bit of a vanity piece and, by its disparagement
of the entire book on the grounds of your professed disagreement with one
theme, at worst, intentional disinformation and smearing. Your article is
almost as long as the book!  Well, no--it just felt like it at times.

  1. The article is not about current "news" and does not belong in Urgent
News. Sanctum--Must Reads among others would have been more appropriate
for the subject matter--but Sanctum is TiU members's access only and you
wanted prominence for your message irrespective of its suitability for the forum.

  2. The article is inherently flawed because the source it purports to
criticise, Ramsay's "The Nameless War" (presumably as reproduced at
iamthewitness.com, given your strictures over Daryl Bradford Smith's
comments), is defective in some respects. Specifically the Appendix
containing the German White Book on the German--Polish crisis never formed
part of the 1962 (last?) edition of the hard copy. As far as I am aware it
also never appeared in any earlier edition. In other words it was not
Ramsay's work or part of his argument and instead reflects the handiwork
of Jackie Petrou or others. There is evidence of these other
"contributions" elsewhere in the online version.*
  A more accurate electronic version which has been carefully compared
with the 1962 edition hard copy is at:

 http://www.4shared.com/document/KhX24vh ... 1962e.html
 

  * The AAARGH electronic edition http://vho.org/aaargh /
http://aaargh.com.mx contains a note casting doubt on the copy from
http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/ "as it is severely truncated and heavily
censored. We have been using a printed (but undated) copy to which we have
imposed some slight corrections." I do not know if iamthewitness.com's
copy came from there but on examination against the paper edition it does,
as stated, contain some errors.

  3. Your references to sources I have yet to examine. For alternatives,
a random example might be Professor Carroll Quigley's "Tragedy And Hope"
(1966)--1348 pages--which devotes hundreds of pages to the inter-war period.
See also other extracts in Appendix 2 below.

  As to the reasons why Germany invaded Poland: I currently think Roy
Hobs has it in one. Pan-Germanism / Nazism may have had its
affinities with the controllers of the Soviet Union through the mixing of
Hun and Jew (see "Shylocracy or Democracy?" (1919) by Harold Sherwood
Spencer, pages 33, 70, 71 ** or conversely Germany may have been swayed
more by the wish to protect German communities in Poland or its lebensraum
expansion program. I defer to the opinions of others, to the extent they
are based on documented sources. Again, for further background see Appendix
2 below.

  ** http://www.datafilehost.com/download-26117461.html

  4. Having criticised one aspect of Ramsay's book--which argument is
necessarily undermined by the factors mentioned in #2 above--you then
disparage the whole book indiscriminately, implying that none of its
contents is trustworthy: "Smith ought to know better. Why is he peddling
this noxious nonsense so aggressively?"  If one accepted your view then it
would mean discarding the entire book which is absurd. Only at the end of your
piece do you recant and say ". . . I hope this will suffice to cast serious doubt
on the anti-Polish, World War II era material in Ramsay's book . . . "
--were you expecting no-one to get to the end to notice?

  5. Plainly Archibald Maule Ramsay was on the right wing of British
politics. However judging by the evidence I have seen, it is unsustainable
to argue that he was therefore actively involved in promoting Nazism, Pan-
Germanism or such like. Quite the reverse, in fact, is stated by the Duke
of Bedford in his House of Lords speech on 25 January 1944 which you will
find in Hansard***, and which states:

  ["Then there is the case of Captain Ramsay, M.P., who is still
detained, although he served with distinction in the last war and is still
suffering from the effects of wounds. . . .  It is, however, an open
secret that the real reason why he has been detained is that he is
anti-Semitic and anti-Communist and may perhaps know too much about
certain prominent people. Not a scrap of evidence has been produced to
prove that he is disloyal, for the very excellent reason that no such
evidence exists. . . . ]

 *** http://hansard.millbanksystems.com/lord ... lation-18b


  For more extracts from the speech report, see Appendix 1 below. It seems
quite probable that Ramsay owed his incarceration at least in part to his
pre-WW2 involvement in researching the money fraud, his involvement with
others advocating the possibility of its reform and tracing the buying of
politicians with gold, e.g. Bernard Baruch's influence over the nearly
bankrupt Churchill. As for his examination of the Polish question, I cannot
say more since I have not yet had time to read your sources and gladly
look forward to reading the remarks of others. See also the thread here
on Reg.19B:


  http://www.theinfounderground.com/forum ... 38&p=45096

  Your comment 'he was handled with kid gloves'...
 is unsubstantiated and
worthless. Why did you say that except out of splenetic malice?


  6.  ". . .what you will be hard pressed to find--in any Polish sources--are
denials that the mass murder of Jews, under German auspices, took place. . ."
  The more cynical--you would say dupes of the holohoax meme--would ask, why
would there exist any denials of an occurrence which never took place? Prove my
negative.
  Personally I would not agree with that, given humanity's--and specifically, the
Jewish--predilection for mass-murder--such as witnessed in the French Revolution,
the Armenian Genocide, the 1917 Russian Revolution, the Ukrainian 1930s
Holodomor, Eisenhower's murder by containment and starvation of German troops
post WW2. . . see "An Eye For An Eye--The Story of Jews Who Sought Revenge For
the Holocaust" by John Sack (1993) extracted in Appendix 2 below.


  Do you receive funding to support your writing?



APPENDIX 1

  From the Lord Chancellor's speech in reply to Bedford: [  "It is
amusing, in view of this assault upon the Home Secretary, to remind
ourselves that when Mr. Morrison released Sir Oswald Mosley he was
not assailed on the ground that it ought to have been done long before,
and that Order 18B was a perfect disgrace, or that the rights of
Englishmen were being gravely assailed. Not at all. He was attacked by all
sorts of people, including a great many people who did not like Order 18B
at all, for releasing Mosley! Such are the strange experiences in times of
war of a Home Secretary! . . . "]

  NB: Sir Oswald Mosely, head of the British Union of Fascists, was
released sooner than Ramsay -- he had been married to a Jewess who died
before WW2: Pierre Hepess, "Le Dernier Bal  . . La Republique Universelle"
&c. Note near the end of the Hansard speech report the Duke of Bedford's
references to active promoters of Fascism and their preferential
treatment:

  [The Duke of Bedford:] "I can only repeat that when men known to have
active sympathies with political Fascism are released, and those who have
no active sympathies with political Fascism are not released, it looks
as if the method of selecting those who are to be released is, to say the
least of it, somewhat haphazard."]

  Further elaboration of the likely reasons behind Ramsay's -- and certain
others' -- incarceration without charge or trial appears earlier in the
Duke of Bedford's speech:

  ["From the point of view of the old established Parties and from the
point of view of those financial interests which are so influential in
this country and in America, it [the British People's Party] had,
however, one very great defect: it included in its programme the
reform of the monetary system, and that meant that, unlike any of
the older political Parties, it could not only make election promises but,
if it came to power, it could also carry them out."]

  From the Lord Chancellor's speech in reply:] "An even greater joke,
however, was his allegation that he put people into internment because
they had certain new financial ideas and had a form of financial policy
which I understand the noble Duke himself favours. People who can say
things like that seem to be leaving all canons of good sense. . . . . . It
is not a crime to have foreign associations or to be of foreign origin. It
is not a crime to profess political opinions which appear to me at least
to be the height of folly, or to support a reform in our finances
which I at least am unable to understand. These are not crimes. None
the less, these people in the crisis of a war, although they are not
criminals, may be capable--some of them, at least--of doing an infinity of
mischief, without being criminals at all, and certainly without being
proved to be criminals; because our good English law--and here I hope that
no one is going to attack it--insists that however much you may have good
ground for suspecting that a man is a criminal, he must be discharged from
the accusation and go out as an innocent man unless the charge is proved
up to the hilt."]


APPENDIX 2

  The following extracts may provide some further background on the state
of popular opinion as well as on the geopolitical forces that led to the
invasion of Poland and WW2.


  Cecil F. Melville: "The Russian Face Of Germany" (Abmachungen)(1932)


  page 36

  General Hoffmann proceeded from the assumption which to this very day
represents the views of authoritative German military circles, that it
will be more advantageous to Prussia as a great Power in Europe to have
Russia as a direct neighbour, even should that country remain Bolshevik,
than Poland. He entertained the hope that by delivering Poland as a victim
to the Bolsheviks he would be able to save for Prussia the provinces of
which Poland had been robbed during the partitions.

  pages 41-41:

  The Berlin Government opposed the transport through Germany of arms and
munitions sent to Poland from the West, while German railwaymen stopped
the trains, and German dockers in Danzig tried to prevent the unloading of
munitions. Indirectly, in this way, Germans assumed their share of guilt
in the intended revolutionary attack of Sovietism on Europe. Lord
D'Abernon recorded in " The Eighteen Decisive Battles of the World" under
August 11th, 1920, that: "News from Paris is to the effect that the German
representatives there are constantly fishing for an invitation from the
Entente to use German military forces against the Soviet." Lord D'Abernon
is sceptical as to the authenticity of this information. Indeed, until now
it has never been either confirmed or denied by any reliable authority.
This much, however, is certain, that during the whole session of the Peace
Conference the German diplomats constantly used the Bolshevik bluff and
that they did so for a double purpose. On the one hand they tried to
represent to public opinion and to the statesmen and diplomatists in the
Allied countries that the hard terms of the Peace Treaty would force the
German people and its Government to throw themselves into the arms of
Soviet Russia; and on the other hand they asserted that it was Germany and
Germany alone who could become the protective dam of European civilisation
against the torrent of Bolshevism, and that therefore this dam should not
be weakened.


  "The Iron Curtain Over America" by John Beaty (1951)

  page 10:

  "It remains indisputable, however, that in what they agreed to in the
treaty made with Germany at Versailles (June 28, 1919) and in the treaty
made with Austria at St. Germain (September 10, 1919) the four American
delegates, dominated by President Wilson [sic -- read about the Kosher
Conference in Spencer, supra.], departed at least to some extent from our
tradition of humane treatment of a defeated enemy. The heavily
populated German nation was deprived of much territory, including vital
mineral areas and a "Polish Corridor" which, under the terms of the
treaty, separated the original duchy of Prussia from the rest of the
country. Germany was deprived also of its merchant fleet and was
saddled with an impossible load of reparations. As a consequence, the
defeated country was left in a precarious position which soon produced an
economic collapse. . . ."

  ibid., pages 37-8:

  "Many of those Jews [emigrating to the USA] are now referred to as
Polish Jews because they came from that portion of Russia which had been
the kingdom of Poland prior to the "partitions" of 1772-1795 (Modern
History, by Carl L. Becker, Silver Burdett Company, New York, p. 138) and
was the Republic of Poland between World War I and World War II."


  "Tragedy And Hope" by Prof. Carroll Quigley (1966)

  pages 388-9:

  "By 1920 Russia was in complete confusion. At this point the new Polish
government invaded Russia, occupying much of the Ukraine. A Bolshevik
counter-attack drove the Poles back to Warsaw where they called upon the
Entente Powers for assistance. General Weygand was sent with a military
mission and supplies. Thus supported, Poland was able to re-invade Russia
and impose the Treaty of Riga (March 1921). This treaty established a
Polish-Russian boundary 150 miles east of the tentative "Curzon Line"
which had been drawn along the ethnographic frontier by the Western Powers
in 1919. By this act Poland took within its boundaries several millions of
Ukrainians and White Russians and ensured a high level of Soviet-Polish
enmity for the next twenty years."

  page 572:

  "Hitler's ascension to office in Germany in January 1933 found French
foreign policy paralyzed by British opposition to any efforts to support
collective security or to enforce German observation of its treaty
obligations by force. As a result, a suggestion from Poland in April 1933
for joint armed intervention in Germany to remove Hitler from office was
rejected by France. Poland at once made a nonaggression pact with Germany
and extended a previous nonaggression pact with the Soviet Union (January-
May, 1934). This inaugurated a policy of balancing between these two Great
Powers which left Poland ripe for the Fourth Partition, which came in
1939."

  page 647:

  "Germany opened its negotiations with Poland in a fairly friendly way on
October 24, 1938. It asked for Danzig and a strip a kilometer wide across
the Polish Corridor to provide a highway and four-track railroad under
German sovereignty. Poland's economic and harbor rights in Danzig were to
be guaranteed and the "corridor across the Corridor" was to be isolated
from Polish communication facilities by bridging or tunneling. Germany
also wanted Poland to join an anti-Russian bloc. If these three things
were granted, Germany was prepared to make certain concessions to Poland,
to guarantee the country's existing frontiers, to extend the Nonaggression
Pact of 1934 for twenty-five years, to guarantee the independence of
Slovakia, and to dispose of Ruthenia as Poland wished. These suggestions
were generally rejected by Poland. They were repeated by Germany with
increased emphasis on March 21st. About the same time, the Germans were
using pressure on Romania to obtain an economic agreement, which was
signed on March 23rd.

  page 648:

  "If the chief purpose of the [UK's] unilateral guarantee to Poland was
to frighten Germany, it had precisely the opposite effect. On hearing of
it, Hitler made his decision: to attack Poland by September 1. Orders to
this effect were issued to the German Army on April 3, and the plans for
Operation White, as it was called, were ready on April 11. On April 28, in
a public speech to the Reichstag, Hitler denounced the Anglo-German Naval
Agreement of 1935 and the German-Polish Nonaggression Pact of 1934. He
also announced the terms he had offered Poland which had been rejected. As
a result, negotiations broke off between the two Powers and were never
really resumed. Instead, the crisis was intensified by provocative acts on
both sides.


  "World Revolution" by Nesta Webster, 6th revised edition 1971 by
Anthony Gittens.

  page 314:

  "A week later Germany invaded Poland on the eastern border and
thereafter there was a race between the German and Russian armies as to
which should gain the greatest portion of that unhappy country. Naturally
most members of the British and French public thought that England would
promptly declare war on Russia, for on August the 25h, 1939 the United
Kingdom and the Polish Government had entered into a Pact of Mutual
Assistance (Cmd. Paper 6101) . . .  Five years later, as the war was
drawing to a close . . .  His Majesty's Stationery Office in London
published a reprint of the Cmd. Paper 6101 with a new number, 6616. This
was to all intents and purposes an exact replica of the original but with
a significant addition on page 4 as follows: [basically the former
reference to either contracting party being attacked by a "European Power"
as laid down in the 1939 Pact was amended to read by "Germany" so an
attack by Russia was retrospectively clarified as not covered by the
Pact!]

  ". . . Years later, the Daily Express gave part of the truth in an
editorial in its issue of August 16, 1961. It said:
  "Britain gave a foolish guarantee to Poland . .  . Poland was not saved.
. . . but Britain was brought into bondage to United States bankers and
brokers after spending 227,000 million pounds in fighting that foolish
war, to say nothing of the terrible casualty lists."
  "And those bankers in the united States were the same bankers who had
backed the first Bolshevik revolution of Lenin and Trotsky in 1917."


  "An Eye For An Eye--The Story of Jews Who Sought Revenge For the
Holocaust" by John Sack (1993)

  page 214:

  "According to the International Committee of the Red Cross, in Geneva,
it wasn't allowed to visit the camps for German POW's in Poland until the
summer of 1946, and it was never allowed to visit the camps for German
civilians. At the order of the German Parliament, a secret study was made
by the German Federal Archives and was delivered to Parliament on May 28,
1974. The report concluded, "In the Polish camps and prisons, there were
probably 200,000 or more people, with a death rate of twenty to fifty
percent. This would mean that 40,000 to 100,000 but certainly more than
60,000 people perished there." Since at some camps the death rate was
fifty percent, 40,000 would be too low, and since at some camps the death
rate was twenty percent, 100,000 would be too high, and I've estimated
that 50,000 to 80,000 died. The number, in fact, may be higher, for though
the report doesn't say so, the death rate at some camps was eighty
percent. From 50,000 to 60,000 Jews died at Bergen-Belsen, and 43,045
people, both Jews and gentiles, at Buchenwald."

  This serves to illustrate the post-WW2 Soviet/Polish antagonism to the
Germans which had a long prior history.


  "Jewish History -- Jewish Religion -- The Weight of Three Thousand
Years" by Israel Shahak, 2nd printing

  Page 62:

    "But the most lasting and tragic results occurred in the eastern
provinces of Poland - roughly, the area east of the present border,
including almost the whole of the present Ukraine and reaching up to the
Great-Russian language frontier. (Until 1667 the Polish border was far
east of the Dnieper, so that Poltava, for example, was inside Poland.) In
those wide territories there were hardly any Royal Towns. The towns were
established by nobles and belonged to them -- and they were settled
almost exclusively by Jews. Until 1939, the population of many Polish
towns east of the river Bug was at least 90 per cent Jewish, and this
demographic phenomenon was even more pronounced in that area of Tsarist
Russia annexed from Poland and known as the Jewish Pale. Outside the
towns very many Jews throughout Poland, but especially in the east, were
employed as the direct supervisors and oppressors of the enserfed
peasantry - as bailiffs of whole manors (invested with the landlord's full
coercive powers) or as lessees of particular feudal monopolies such as the
corn mill, the liquor still and public house (with the right of armed
search of peasant houses for illicit stills) or the bakery, and as
collectors of customary feudal dues of all kinds. In short, in eastern
Poland, under the rule of the nobles (and of the feudalized church, formed
exclusively from the nobility) the Jews were both the immediate
exploiters of the peasantry and virtually the only town-dwellers."

[Ahmed]

"Negentropic  wrote:
 First of all, why should Hitler care about where the Jews went, as long as they got out of his own country where he didn't want them? It's not his problem if the Zionists plan on stealing someone else's country and forcing them to live there. Hitler only looked to benefit Germans first and Aryans of the world second if they were smart enough to stand with Germany

I read your posts with some interest and you make some valid points, however, I disagree with your view: I wouldn't send Zionist Jews to live amongst my worst enemy, much less allow them to set up terrorist training camps in the "Fatherland".

There was NO EXCUSE for the National Socialist movement promoting The British Empire or suggesting Palestine as a Jewish homeland. Especially since Birobidzhan was set up in 1928, and even more so when the purpose of such an invasion / state was made clear in 'Mien Kamph'.

If a revolution seeks to break the criminal system's power; they cast them to the four winds, disperse their leadership, liquidate their policies, they don't send them fully financed and armed to set up a squatters HQ abroad.

Second, if the Rothschilds and the Warburgs financed Hitler to get the Jews out of Germany and he was such an agent of theirs, why the hell did they get so flaming, lunatic mad when he started issuing his own money in defiance of them?  Surely, he was still forcing Jews out of Germany as much as he could and accomplishing what the king-zio-jews set out to accomplish, so why such a big old fuss? Or could it be that getting Jews out of Germany was not nearly as important to them as continued domination of Germany, parasite to host, as well as every other central-banked country in the world?

Absolutely, that's what I alluded to earlier with the line "...became independent which is why they killed him". Hitler worked within their system for some time and then tried to make his own moves. But the appeasement or collaboration with Rothschild had lasted so long that the criminals knew the ins and outs of every facet of Germany; probably knew where every bunker, every factory, every usable bit of land was. Let a jackal explore your house once, don't be surprised when he returns with the pack.

Maybe the  answer you don't want to hear because it will upset all your big-time conspiracy theories of all-powerful chessmasters on the grand chessboard is that Hitler was the genuine article

 :| As you'll soon discover by looking over some of my other posts, I'm certainly not for any "big-time conspiracy" or part of the 'Its All Hopeless Because They Rule The World' crowd

he used the Rothschilds, not the other way around. That certainly would be more in line with why they were so hell-bent on destroying his example, not just in WW II but through a massive, unending avalanche of propaganda in all the years since (see the previous post and specifically the second anti-german propaganda video). And no, he certainly wasn't ignorant of bankster power all over the world, including England and the USA (all central banked countries), as this speech given way back in 1922 proves

Which makes his support for the evil British Empire all the more bizarre. If it was made purely on the grounds of racial affinity, then Dresden, if nothing else, proved the futility of racial politics.

[CrackSmokeRepublican]

Notice that the baseball bat says "Knoxville" and not "Louisville"... this show is 100% Jew through and through...  

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[thirdeyewise]

The Jews have it spelled out pretty clear, I think:

Do not suppose for a moment that these statements are empty words: think carefully of the successes we arranged for Darwinism (Evolution), Marxism (Communism), Nietzsche-ism (Socialism). To us Jews, at any rate, it should be plain to see what a disintegrating importance these directives have had upon the minds of the GOYIM.     - PROTOCOL No. 2.3

http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/przion2.htm#PROTOCOL%20No.%201

The invisible Money Power is working to control and enslave mankind. It financed Communism, Fascism, Marxism, Zionism, Socialism. All of these are directed to making the United States a member of a World Government."       - American Mercury Magazine, 1957

Nietzsche was not even an antisemite. Let this Jew tell you how he feels about Nietzsche, the Nazi role model.
(Don't be spooked, but this Jew kind of looks like Ry from Rys2sense, could be his brother.)

[youtube:2lfl36dd]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfkjdLpXV6c[/youtube]2lfl36dd]



"They could bankrupt Egypt and Turkey. They could bring Russia to ruins. They could buy Jewish ne'er-do-wells. They could even buy the Pope but the only way to force Jews in large numbers to Palestine was to put Hitler andStalin in power and persecute Jews on a massive and unprecedented scale."

" To Eliminate the Opiate Vol.2 " by Rabbi Marvin Antelman.

[youtube:2lfl36dd]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNeuUmVuFTM[/youtube]2lfl36dd]
[youtube:2lfl36dd]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-ds9W89Cgw[/youtube]2lfl36dd]



Here are some sites making some good points:

http://www.coffinman.co.uk/hitler_was_a_jew.htm
http://thy-weapon-of-war.blogspot.com/search/label/Kosher%20Nazis

"We (Jews) create our luck and call it fate." - Benjamin Disraeli

[CrackSmokeRepublican]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VaxDiFJZo68

http://rexcurry.net/theosophy-madame-bl ... ciety.html
http://rexcurry.net/bellamy-edward-germ ... tions.html

[RoaminLam]

It's interesting that Helphand should end by quoting Israel Shahak's Jewish History, Jewish Religion: The Weight of 3000 Years – another book that's offered at The French Connection website.

I knew about – and read – this book when it first came out, thanks to one of my contacts on the Polish history scene. I was teaching on a Fulbright grant in Romania that year, when someone at the Polish Canadian Congress sent me a photocopy of it.

Shahak was no stranger to me, though, since I'd already run across him much earlier in my reading of the Polish ethnic press.

A Jew of great integrity and courage, also no small authority, he took issue with the Jewish establishment's unending, knavish defamation of the Polish people, e.g., lavishly expressed in Claude Lanzmann's 1985 documentary "Shoah," whose ugly stereotypes Shahak disputed in a lengthy exchange of letters published by The New York Review of Books.

On the authority of Israel Shahak, I invite you to read just one of those letters
http://www.nybooks.com/articles/archive ... ge/?page=1

You'll surely be challenged, at the very outset, by Shahak's self-stated credentials:

"I am myself a survivor of the Holocaust: I was born in Warsaw (the subject of a large part of the essay) and was in the Warsaw Ghetto almost till the end; then after various adventures that included a period of time "on the Aryan side," as it was called then (that is, being hidden by a Polish Catholic family and helped by other Poles). I finished in Bergen-Belsen where I spent nearly two years. I think that being a child of nine to twelve years old during the crucial part of those experiences (1942–1945) helped me to understand them afterward better than could those who were fully grown up; and of course children under such experiences grow up and mature beyond their formal age, without however losing a part of the openness to strange things which is one of the advantages of youth. In numerous talks in Israel with many survivors of similar experiences, of more or less the same age, I have found a confirmation of my opinions."

You'll also encounter such assertions as the following:

•   "Before the beginning of the actual [Warsaw Ghetto] extermination in the summer 1942, when of course the extermination of Jews in the other cities was known to many including the children (especially after the news came of the extermination of the Ghetto of Lublin)..."
•   "The same I could observe under even more harrowing conditions in Bergen-Belsen. For some months the platforms bearing hundreds of naked, emaciated dead bodies passed daily at a certain hour in the morning before our 'special' little camp."
•   "...another camp with people who were literally being beaten to death with clubs was situated in the shortest possible distance from our own compound where we could all see and hear the people being tortured to death with deliberate beatings and starvation."
•   "...the many small towns of conquered USSR, where most of the Jews had been already exterminated ..."
•   "...the correct perception of the actual horrors of the extermination of the Jews in their all too human and typical character can be, and should be, a powerful instrument of understanding and caution ..."

And so on and so forth. You get the idea.

This is a big one, but you're going to have to choke it down. Honest "truth" seekers in this movement – whatever your opinion of "the Jews" – must grapple with and eventually recognize the **fact** that Jews were mass murdered, mostly on German-occupied Polish territory, during the Second World War. We may speculate about the purposes and provenance of the "holohoax" meme, now so widely accepted among us, but it **is** a fraud.

Also on the authority of Israel Shahak, I offer the following with regard to Germany's treatment and ultimate intentions towards the non-Jewish majority:

"One should know that the Nazi aims in Eastern Europe were different than those in the West .... All Slav peoples east of Germany were intended by the Nazis for an ultimate fate not very much better than the fate assigned by them to the Jews, while the fate of the French and others in Western Europe was to be much less bad, because of a measure of respect and snobbery that the Nazis, including especially Hitler, had toward them."

Regarding Carroll Quigley, and aside from our debt to his forthrightness, he **was** a member in good standing, at a very high level, of the NWO intellectual establishment, and as such he had his biases. His formulation that in 1920 (sic) Poland "invaded Russia" begs the question.

Perhaps the best monograph on this war was written by Norman Davies – White Eagle, Red Star
http://www.amazon.com/White-Eagle-Red-S ... 0712606947

Davies claims that after the occupying German army was ordered to withdraw, in the settlement of WW I, it left a power vacuum in the region, which made it inevitable that Poland and Russia would collide.

The root meaning of the name "Ukraine," itself, is something on the order of "borderland," presumably between the more ancient and coherent Polish and Russian nations, possibly also the great Moslem empire to the south. With the dismantling of the old empires after WW I, there is no objective logic for claiming that the entirety of this region should have gone to the USSR and none of it to Poland.

Marshal Pilsudski, of Lithuanian origin, was not a Polish imperialist. His aim was to form a coalition of peoples that would have been strong enough together to withstand the rapacious encroachments foreseeable on the part of the defeated and diminished German and Russian states. From the standpoint of Poles, and the other smaller nations of Central Europe who desired to be free, Pilsudski's vision had a certain merit. It's not really fair or accurate to say that Poland "invaded Russia" in 1920.

The pornographic images and gutter diction from Negantropic demonstrate clearly enough which direction the moral compass is pointing in our debate. But in the interest of thoroughness, I'll take a couple of swipes at the bigoted balderdash he's so deeply invested in.

"The outmoded Polish air force was smashed in the first few hours of the conflict before it even could take to the air."

This is classic piece of legendary Teutonic nonsense. The "outmoded" – and ridiculously outnumbered – Polish air force gave a remarkably good account of itself. The Germans lost nearly 300 aircraft over Poland, most of them in air-to-air combat with, initially, some 160 obsolete P-11 fighters, flown by arguably the most skilled and intrepid fighter pilots of their day.

On the night of September 17, after the USSR had joined the war on Germany's side, the Polish government and more than 80% of their air force personnel, including ground crews, escaped in their remaining, bullet-riddled planes to neighboring Romania.

Flying state-of-the-art Spitfires a year later, these same Polish pilots made up the very best Allied units in the Battle of Britain, downing more German planes and losing fewer of their own than any other squadrons in the RAF.

The most readable and authoritative book on this topic was written by Adam Zamoyski – The Forgotten Few: The Polish Air Force in the Second World War
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss? ... _56&fsc=-1

In fact, this is a personal favorite of mine. It's vivid and poignantly human, as much of the material was drawn from journals and other personal accounts of the pilots themselves. World War II and military history buffs will find this a stunning and unforgettable read.

Here's another one.

"I had plenty of opportunity to observe the large amount of Polish officers swaggering through the streets in their impressive uniforms and boasting about how they would get to Berlin in less than two weeks and ride triumphantly through the Brandenburg Gate."

This is purely anecdotal, of course. How well – if at all – did this chauvinistic German observer understand Polish? How accurately did he pick up on what these numerous "Polish officers" were saying – on "the streets"? Or was he hanging out in the company of Polish officers, walking through "the streets" with and among them, so he could properly take down their measured opinions about the likely outcome of a war between Poland and Germany?

I've heard this line before. It sounds like triumphalist German hooey.

Note also the word "swaggering." How objective is this? I would say the Nazis were the experts when it came to "swaggering," and that most likely they kept it as a jealously guarded privilege of the Master Race. If the subhuman Poles at last had a country of their own, that would have been intolerable enough to men like the German observer in Warsaw here. But if they dared tip their chins a bit too high, I'm sure this would have qualified as "swaggering" – a capital offense for the Untermenschen subject to Germanic law.

Let's be reasonable. A child could understand the enormous disparity in strength between Germany and Poland. This alleged "swaggering" eagerness of the Poles for a war in 1939 is a variation on the myth of Polish cavalry charging German tanks. If these people were really that stupid, they would have become extinct a long time ago.

According to Zaloga and Madej in The Polish Campaign 1939
http://www.amazon.com/Polish-Campaign-1 ... 087052013X
the Polish general staff expected that, in the event of a war with Germany, their army could stay in the field for about two weeks. That was the maximum timeframe within which they were counting on relief from the West. Of course it never came, a critical and too-little-appreciated fact in understanding the deep politics of this period. The prospect of a two-front war with Russia was so hopeless that the Polish staff didn't even plan for it.

Here's one last example.

"Let's go back to Nazi terrorism. There were, as everybody knows, concentration camps. Who were the inmates? Mostly vagrants, bums and, yes, some obnoxious politicians of the leftist variety (come to think of it, not a bad idea at all)..."

I suppose that depends on your definition of "vagrants, bums." My grandpa's father died at Majdanek. My late father-in-law was a prisoner at Auschwitz for two years and survived the death march into Germany late in the war. He was well acquainted with another Pole named Tadeusz Borowski, who wrote a book about his experiences entitled This Way for the Gas, Ladies and Gentlemen and committed suicide in 1951, long before the Jewish Holocaust industry got underway. I've met and corresponded with Irene Tomaszewski, who was born in a Soviet gulag during the war, founded the Canadian Foundation for Polish Studies, and edited the prison letters of Krystyna Wituska. Wituska was a fluent German-speaker who joined the Polish Resistance, was captured in 1942 and executed by decapitation two years later. Her letters are the testament of a noble and unbroken spirit. Jozef Garlinski, another Auschwitz prisoner, wrote several books, including one on Auschwitz and Poland in the Second World War, an excellent summary of this subject.

"Vagrants ... bums." What unbridled arrogance.

Impudent lies.

Shame.

[Negentropic]

http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v16/v16n5p22_Weber.html

Gertrude Stein's Complex Worldview
Nobel Peace Prize for Hitler?

By Mark Weber

Scholars of the life of Gertrude Stein were recently startled to learn that in 1938 the prominent Jewish-American writer had spearheaded a campaign urging the Nobel committee to award its Peace Prize to Adolf Hitler. This was disclosed by Gustav Hendrikksen, a former member of the Nobel committee and now professor emeritus of Bible studies at Sweden's Uppsala University, in Nativ, a political magazine published in Israel. (Reports about this appeared in the New York Jewish community weekly Forward, Feb. 2, June 14, and Oct. 25, 1996.)

Hendrikksen, an avowed friend of Israel who is now in his late 80s, recalled that the Nobel committee rejected Stein's proposal "politely but firmly, citing among their reasons the attitude of the Nazi regime toward the Jews."

In the decades before her death in 1946, Stein was a widely acclaimed literary icon. As monarch of the "lost generation" of American expatriates in Paris during the 1920s and 1930s, she cultivated and influenced such literary figures as Ernest Hemingway and F. Scott Fitzgerald, as well as such artists as Pablo Picasso and Henri Matisse. Her Paris home was a mecca for writers and artists. Stein's own "modernist" novels, memoirs, lectures and plays -- once celebrated as stylishly avant garde -- have not aged well. Today she is remembered almost as much for who she was as for what she wrote.

Born in Pennsylvania of a wealthy German-Jewish family, she was raised in the United States, and attended Radcliffe and Johns Hopkins universities. But it was during her years of expatriate living in France that she made her lasting mark.

'Hitler Ought to Have the Peace Prize'

Stein's seemingly paradoxical views about Hitler and fascism have never been a secret. As early as 1934, she told a reporter that Hitler should be awarded the Nobel peace prize. "I say that Hitler ought to have the peace prize, because he is removing all the elements of contest and of struggle from Germany. By driving out the Jews and the democratic and Left element, he is driving out everything that conduces to activity. That means peace ... By suppressing Jews ... he was ending struggle in Germany" (New York Times Magazine, May 6, 1934).

As astonishing at it may seem today, in 1938 many credited Hitler for his numerous efforts to secure lasting peace in Europe on the basis of equal rights of nations. After assuming power in 1933, he succeeded in quickly establishing friendly relations with Poland, Italy, Hungary, and several other European nations. Among his numerous initiatives to lessen tensions in Europe, the German leader offered detailed proposals for mutual reductions of armaments by the major powers.

In a 1940 essay, Stein wrote positively of the appointment of "collaborationist" Henri Philippe Petain as France's Chief of State, comparing him to George Washington. As late as 1941, she was urging the Atlantic Monthly to publish speeches by Marshal Petain, which she had translated into English. In spite of her background, Stein continued to live and write in France during the years of German occupation (1940-1944).

She also maintained a friendship with Bernard Fay, who headed France's national library, the Bibliotheque Nationale, during the Petain era. According to a new biography of Stein, Favored Strangers: Gertrude Stein and Her Family, by Linda Wagner-Martin, Fay and Stein often discussed "the Führer's qualities of greatness" in the years before the outbreak of war in 1939. Even after the war, when he was convicted as a collaborationist, Stein and her close companion Alice Toklas remained good friends with Fay and lobbied to free him from prison.

Conflicted Sense of Jewishness
Like many of this century's Jewish American intellectuals, Stein's relationship to her own Jewishness was complex and conflicted. She was sensitive to anti-Jewish sentiment, and sometimes expressed criticism of Hitler. In 1936 she wrote: "There is too much fathering going on just now and there is no doubt about it fathers are depressing. Everybody now-a-days is a father, there is father Mussolini and father Hitler and father Roosevelt and father Stalin and father Trotzky ..."

Estranged from the organized Jewish community, in part because of her eccentricity and lesbianism, she nevertheless retained an acute and proud sense of her Jewishness. According to Wagner-Martin, Stein once said, "all men of genius had Jewish blood," and even developed a theory that Abraham Lincoln was part Jewish.

During the first decade of this century, Stein became enamored of Austrian-Jewish psychologist and philosopher Otto Weininger, whose major work, Geschlecht und Charakter ("Sex and Character"), had tremendous influence on European thinking. Following its first publication in 1903, the book was quickly translated into various languages, and went through 30 editions. Weininger contrasted the masculine "Being" of Aryanism and Christianity with the feminine "non-Being" of Judaism. Jesus was the only Jew to overcome Judaism, he argued. Zionism, in Weininger's view, is the negation of Judaism, because it seeks to ennoble what cannot be ennobled. Whereas Judaism stands for the world dispersion of Jews, Zionism strives for their ingathering.


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From The Journal of Historical Review, Sept-Oct. 1997 (Vol. 16, No. 5), pp. 22 ff.

[Negentropic]

This is a big one, but you're going to have to choke it down. Honest "truth" seekers in this movement – whatever your opinion of "the Jews" – must grapple with and eventually recognize the **fact** that Jews were mass murdered, mostly on German-occupied Polish territory, during the Second World War. We may speculate about the purposes and provenance of the "holohoax" meme, now so widely accepted among us, but it **is** a fraud.

Also on the authority of Israel Shahak, I offer the following with regard to Germany's treatment and ultimate intentions towards the non-Jewish majority:

"One should know that the Nazi aims in Eastern Europe were different than those in the West .... All Slav peoples east of Germany were intended by the Nazis for an ultimate fate not very much better than the fate assigned by them to the Jews, while the fate of the French and others in Western Europe was to be much less bad, because of a measure of respect and snobbery that the Nazis, including especially Hitler, had toward them."

The 'authority' of Israel Shahak? What authority is that? Is he the Pope or Moses or something? There is no such thing as 'authority' in history, there's only documented authenticated evidence and proof vs. bullshit artistry, deliberate exaggerations, lies & unreliable, often conflicting so-called first-person accounts based on completely unreliable memory.  Even if a million people testified to something and you had no physical evidence to back it up then you would have no case.  Either provide the physical evidence or you lose the case, PERIOD!  The "authority' of Shahak doesn't prove a damn thing anymore than the 'authority' of Chomsky proves a thing about his deliberate obfuscations about 9-11.  If you refuse to debate an unproven case and pass laws to prevent anyone challenging an unproven case by imprisoning them, then, not only have you not proven your case but have shown that your case must indeed be extremely weak.  Isolated massacres and death from disease and starvation do not make an 'extermination program of genocide resulting in 6 million deaths in gas chambers and ovens'  repeated over a trillion times since the end of Bankster-World-Massacre II.  Why don't you 'choke down' and 'grapple' with 'the purposes and provenance'  of some of these :


http://www.coffinman.co.uk/lets_stop_with_the_auschwitz_lies.htm

"Supposedly the most dreaded of German camps, Auschwitz was repeatedly visited by Red Cross inspection teams who were allowed to speak to prisoner representatives alone, in order to hear first-hand of any mistreatment, chicanery, interruption of mail and parcel delivery, health concerns, food and ration matters etc. The International Red Cross visited monthly. In a 1650 page report there was never a mention of gas chambers."  


Frederic Toben
The Alternative Tour of Auschwitz: An Independent Investigation of the Holocaust

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8424408632716421689#


This is a factual list of facilities available to prisoners at the
alleged Nazi death camp of Auschwitz in Poland. Most of these
facilities can still be seen in the camp today, including the cinema,
swimming pool, hospital, library and post office


Use your brain, if the Germans were taking people to camps just to
kill them, why would they provide any of this?


- Camp dental facilities,,attended by camp inmate dentists and nurses to deal with the inmates' dental problems.


- Camp sick barracks ,attended by camp inmate doctors and nurses to deal with the inmates' health problems - much like the now common walk- in clinics in modern US communities

- A camp hospital to which expert
surgeons even from the famous Berlin "Charité" Surgical Clinic were dispatched to deal with difficult cases.


- Camp kitchen -one of the largest service buildings in Auschwitz,
with state-of-the-art cooking facilities. There were twelve of these
throughout the camp


- Up to 16 camp orchestras with every conceivable instrument
available.

- A camp theater where live plays could be performed by camp inmate actors


- Camp sculture class conducted for interested, talented inmates by
professional sculptors.

- Camp art classes for inmates


- Camp university with lectures on every topic under the sun, from
health, the arts, philosophy, science, economic issues etc.


- A camp cinema - where every week different, mainly cultural and non- political films were shown.

- The camp brothel, just inside the main gate was a building used
during the war as a brothel for the inmates. It was not a secret that
the camp had a brothel; it was mentioned in books and its existence
was confirmed by the Auschwitz Museum officials.

- A camp library where inmates could borrow books from Forty -five thousand volumes available.

- Camp religious facilities made available on a rotating basis to
every denomination for religious services.

- A camp swimming pool for use by the inmates on Birkenallee, where there were walkways with comfortable benches for inmates to relax in the shade of the trees.


- Camp sport facilities like soccer fields, handball areas, fencing
classes and other exercise facilities.


- Auschwitz had an artist studio. The camp commendant provided a studio and the equipment which produced thousands of paintings and sketches. The Auschwitz museum has 1470 paintings, but none are displayed

- Camp incentive system where through extra work inmates could obtain coupons redeemable for cake or ice cream in the Camp Cantina, which also had extra toiletries etc



- Camp complaints office where inmates could register complaints or make suggestions. Camp Commander Hoess had a standing order that any inmate could approach him personally to register a complaint about other inmates such as "Kapos" and even guards. A system of strict discipline for guards and also for inmates, with severe punishment being handed out against those found guilty (for even slapping an inmate).


- Auschwitz marriages took place because worker inmates fell in love and married their inmate partners.



- Auschwitz maternity ward - Over 3,000 live births were registered there, with not a single infant death while Auschwitz was in operation under German rule.


- Auschwitz jail - Since the camp was a large, open facility,
transgressors could be arrested, tried and jailed right in Auschwitz
Jail.


- Auschwitz issued its own money. Prisoners were paid and could spend the money in canteens, brothels and stores.


- Camp post office with twice weekly pick-ups and deliveries.
Auschwitz was a major work camp that had forty different industries. The true reason for the existence of the Auschwitz camp is revealed in the little shown pictures of the industrial complex which surrounded the camp - most of it within full view of the interior of the camp itself. Above The Monowitz industrial complex, where most of Auschwitz's inmates were put to work in a variety of heavy industries, ranging from rubber manufacture, medical supplies, armaments and, as illustrated in the picture right, clothing.

This photograph shows the
tailor's workshop at Auschwitz 1, where prisoners would make up
clothing for use by the German army. "



Frederic Toben
The Alternative Tour of Auschwitz: An Independent Investigation of the Holocaust

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8424408632716421689#

David Irving: the Holocaust Lie Exposed

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1154851922811076341#

[thirdeyewise]

Use your brain, if the Germans were taking people to camps just to
kill them, why would they provide any of this? [/color]


- Camp dental facilities,,attended by camp inmate dentists and nurses to deal with the inmates' dental problems.


- Camp sick barracks ,attended by camp inmate doctors and nurses to deal with the inmates' health problems - much like the now common walk- in clinics in modern US communities

- A camp hospital to which expert
surgeons even from the famous Berlin "Charité" Surgical Clinic were dispatched to deal with difficult cases.


- Camp kitchen -one of the largest service buildings in Auschwitz,
with state-of-the-art cooking facilities. There were twelve of these
throughout the camp


- Up to 16 camp orchestras with every conceivable instrument
available.

- A camp theater where live plays could be performed by camp inmate actors


- Camp sculture class conducted for interested, talented inmates by
professional sculptors.

- Camp art classes for inmates


- Camp university with lectures on every topic under the sun, from
health, the arts, philosophy, science, economic issues etc.


- A camp cinema - where every week different, mainly cultural and non- political films were shown.

- The camp brothel, just inside the main gate was a building used
during the war as a brothel for the inmates. It was not a secret that
the camp had a brothel; it was mentioned in books and its existence
was confirmed by the Auschwitz Museum officials.

- A camp library where inmates could borrow books from Forty -five thousand volumes available.

- Camp religious facilities made available on a rotating basis to
every denomination for religious services.

- A camp swimming pool for use by the inmates on Birkenallee, where there were walkways with comfortable benches for inmates to relax in the shade of the trees.


- Camp sport facilities like soccer fields, handball areas, fencing
classes and other exercise facilities.


- Auschwitz had an artist studio. The camp commendant provided a studio and the equipment which produced thousands of paintings and sketches. The Auschwitz museum has 1470 paintings, but none are displayed

- Camp incentive system where through extra work inmates could obtain coupons redeemable for cake or ice cream in the Camp Cantina, which also had extra toiletries etc



- Camp complaints office where inmates could register complaints or make suggestions. Camp Commander Hoess had a standing order that any inmate could approach him personally to register a complaint about other inmates such as "Kapos" and even guards. A system of strict discipline for guards and also for inmates, with severe punishment being handed out against those found guilty (for even slapping an inmate).


- Auschwitz marriages took place because worker inmates fell in love and married their inmate partners.



- Auschwitz maternity ward - Over 3,000 live births were registered there, with not a single infant death while Auschwitz was in operation under German rule.


- Auschwitz jail - Since the camp was a large, open facility,
transgressors could be arrested, tried and jailed right in Auschwitz
Jail.


- Auschwitz issued its own money. Prisoners were paid and could spend the money in canteens, brothels and stores.


- Camp post office with twice weekly pick-ups and deliveries.
Auschwitz was a major work camp that had forty different industries. The true reason for the existence of the Auschwitz camp is revealed in the little shown pictures of the industrial complex which surrounded the camp - most of it within full view of the interior of the camp itself. Above The Monowitz industrial complex, where most of Auschwitz's inmates were put to work in a variety of heavy industries, ranging from rubber manufacture, medical supplies, armaments and, as illustrated in the picture right, clothing.

This photograph shows the
tailor's workshop at Auschwitz 1, where prisoners would make up
clothing for use by the German army. "

For most, those camps were nothing but transitory stations, with the final destination being......(you guessed it) Israel.
[youtube:14mzlxlv]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FeME45M0vW0[/youtube]14mzlxlv]

[Helphand]

So extravagant are RoaminLam's eulogies of the Poles that I hardly recognise these paragons of animals from their latter day representatives round at the corner Polski Sklep. Nevertheless I have persisted and read through the further posts by RoaminLam and his recommended reading, specifically the booklet

http://www.piastinstitute.org/assets/library/the_genocide_of_the_poles_1938_1948_radzilowski

Having done so I think this will be my last contribution to this particular topic as I'm now satisfied that the original post was little more than a smear to discredit Ramsay and his book The Nameless War under the guise of pro-Polish (or pro-Polish-Jewish?) solidarity; and furthermore to take us down a rabbit hole on the issue of (Jewish) holocaust numbers.

First The Genocide of the Poles, 1939-1948 at the above link.

No peace that assures the security of one nation at the cost of another's existence is just, nor is it going to endure. And such were the circumstances attending the carve-up at Versailles, the "Kosher Conference". But nary a peep is given at that fact in the booklet; gaze averted. The Poles themselves recognised the danger - see quotes from Fahey, Gwynne, Delassus below - but snapped at a bargain.

The booklet paints a beatific vision of co-operation in adversity between the noble Pole and the persecuted Jew which starts with the eyebrow raising incredible, transcends the eye-wateringly maudlin and crowns the inner citadel of hilarious disbelief, all the while feet shuffling and fumbling at any suggestion of WHY they had contributed to the predicament in which they found themselves. I don't condone mass murder - even of Poles or Jews (satire) - but the skein of threads of conflicting national, cultural, economic, racial, religious etc etc interests in this complex period of history isn't going to be unpicked by sporadic quoting of secondary sources here.

Some suggestions of the factors that may have played a role in later events didn't entirely escape the blue pencil though:

"...[Poland] became a haven for Europe's Jews either expelled from Western Europe or fleeing anti-Jewish violence during the Black Death and Crusades."

"...By the seventeenth century four-fifths of all of the Jews in the world were living in the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth."

"... Minority groups such as the Jews had significant autonomy and enjoyed official royal protection."  (Actually the European monarchies commonly used the hof-Jude and below for as their enforcers as you know).

"... Poland's powerful neighbors began to take advantage of the country's relative weakness and interfered in its internal politics seeking to increase its vulnerability. "
(Must have been weakened by all that "strength in diversity" oxymoron BS).

"... The final partitions came not just because of Poland's weakness, but because of her potential strength and because her reform carried the seeds of the dangerous new democratic ideas that at the same moment were driving the French Revolution. Catherine the Great called the Poles the "Jacobins of the East." (Aha, now we're getting to the more plausible reasons. Democracy; French Revolution ; Jacobins. The ADL redacteurs must have been asleep by now.)

"... Moved by the notion that where there was a fight for freedom there was Poland, they joined revolutions from the German and Italian states to Latin America to the Caucasus under the slogan, "For your freedom and ours." In exasperation, the German chancellor Otto von Bismarck called Poles [did he mean Eastern Jews?] "the general staff of world revolution." (So the Jewish revolutionary spirit pervaded the "Poles" and this was recognised by other nation hosts. Was Bismarck's amour-propre wounded when he called the "Poles" "the general staff of world revolution"; or rather, was he having a secret "chutzpah" moment? He was after all, it seems, a crypto Jew or half Jew (A. Cherep-Spiridovich: "The Secret World Government").

"... Chancellor Bismarck's Kulturkampf in Poland was designed not only to suppress Polishness but also to cripple the Catholic Church, which had become the bastion of Polish memory and culture. (Interesting aside on the RC Church but equally could be taken as an attack on Christianity which is equally plausible).

"... Poland's main goal was to force France and Britain into the war..."  (Echoes William Dudley Pelley ("sedition" conviction post-WW2), Leese (yes, another 18B victim) et al., that Britain was manipulated into abandoning self-determination and became prey to the banksters and munitions hawkers as soon as pen touched paper on the UK/Poland Treaty).

The depiction of a society of mutual cultural and racial adoration emerges:

"... A distinctive feature of Polish Resistance was the establishment of the Council for Aid to Jews in 1942. The group was known by its acronym "Zegota". It brought together representatives of Jewish organizations, members of the Polish underground and Polish political parties as well as deeply committed members of Polish society to try to provide assistance to the Jews of Poland after the Nazis began their "final solution".

"...Amid scenes of joy, the Polish officer who led the attack saw a file of men standing at attention. A former prisoner stepped forward, saluted, and announced "Jewish volunteer company ready for action!" The former prisoners were enlisted in the ranks. As the officer later recalled the Jewish volunteers were "exceptionally brave, ingenious, and faithful people."  

"... One of the greatest contributions to the defeat of Nazism was made by Polish military intelligence which had broken supposedly unbreakable German military codes and discovered the secret of the German coding machine Enigma. This secret was passed on to the British and proved vital to the Allied war effort.  (Um... Bletchley Park? Anyone know if this is correct?)

"In some cases, it was necessary for the rescued Jews to come to the rescue of their former rescuers who were brought up on false charges in communist courts by providing testimony in their favor. Many rescuers hid their involvement in saving Jews."


RoaminLam:

"there's a decent bibliography of about two dozen sources at the end"

.  I counted 18 paper publications but on closer inspection these did not represent the views of 18 different authors but the concentrated industry of a lesser number of authors who had each written more than one piece. Norman Davies: 2 titles; Richard Lukas, author and editor: 4 titles; and a title by John Radzilowski, who I take to be that same "J. Radzilowski, Ph.D." who co-authored the booklet itself. I ignore the sponsoring bodies quoted.

"The Genocide of the Poles" was moderately interesting but enjoyable mainly as an exercise in savouring the hyperbole of its double plus ungood disdain for anyone who had ever doubted the solid fellowship of the native Poles and their millenial cohabitants, the Eastern Jews.

Interesting that the introduction quotes Solidarity activist, Adam Michnik and "Timothy Garton Ash", both of whose names indicate they are likely/are, respectively, Jews. The Polish Solidarity movement has more lately been identified as part of a preordained state regression from bolshevism under the auspices of glasnost and perestroika, prop., one M. Gorbachev - a Jew.

To be accepted for mind manipulation in the Californian public school classrooms I guess the booklet had to satisfy the "usual requirements"; ADL / B'nai B'rith brownie points presumably earned in spades. Perhaps no wonder then the home schooling movement in CA. has been growing in strength. Eighteenth-century refrain: Cowper's "For Public Schools, 'tis Public Folly Feeds..."

RoaminLam:

It's interesting that Helphand should end by quoting Israel Shahak's Jewish History, Jewish Religion: The Weight of 3000 Years - another book that's offered at The French Connection website. I knew about - and read - this book when it first came out, thanks to one of my contacts on the Polish history scene. I was teaching on a Fulbright grant in Romania that year, when someone at the Polish Canadian Congress sent me a photocopy of it.

No particular relative importance was attached to Shahak's book, the list was ordered chronologically or so nearly as may be. And you might re-read the extract from Sack's book. Thanks however for answering my question by indicating one source of funds, I don't think it would be too mischievous to quote the Jew Myrom C. Fagan from his "The Illuminati and the Council on Foreign Relations" (1967 recording transcript).

 "One of the most notable Rhodes scholars we have in our country is Senator William J. Fulbright, sometimes referred to as 'half-bright'. His entire voting record spells Illuminati. All such scholars were to be first persuaded and then convinced that men of special talent and brains have the right to rule those less gifted on the ground that the masses don't know what is best for them physically, mentally, and spiritually."

Rhodes... Fulbright... 'nuff said.


Some different angles - unlikely to be encountered from cut and pasting on the web - regarding the relative importance of certain factors that preceded WW2:

Father Denis Fahey, D.D. D.Ph.

The Mystical Body of Christ and the Reorganization of Society (1945)

"Chapter XVI: Reactions Against The Naturalism of the French Revolution."

"POLAND'S REACTION.

"... Satan seems to have abandoned all hope of prevailing on the Poles to revolt against Christ the King, so he simply aims at crushing them to the earth and blotting out their country. ... The resurrection of Poland at the end of the Great War (1914-1918) did not proceed without serious opposition from the anti-supernatural forces. The Cause of World Unrest, published in 1920 with an introduction by the Editor of The Morning Post, Mr. H. A. Gwynne, is emphatic on the point. "It was notorious during the proceedings of the Peace Conference," writes the author of this work, "that whenever any decision favourable to Poland was reached, Jewish gentry from London hurriedly crossed the Channel for the purpose of trying to revoke it... Why? A strong Poland is not a Jewish interest. For one thing, how many Englishmen are aware of the enormous Jewish population which lives within the ethnographical boundaries of Poland? In 1910 the total number of Jews in the world was, roughly, 12,506,238, and in 1900 almost five million Jews lived in Polish territory. It is interesting, too, to note that since the Russian Revolution of 1905 there was a distinct movement in Poland to get rid of the monopoly exercised by the Jews in all commercial and financial activities in Poland, by the creation of Polish Cooperative Societies. It is perfectly clear that a strong national Polish Government would further develop that policy, and this might lead in time to measures which would by no means prove welcome to the enormous Jewish population concentrated within its territories.... Thus, Poland as created by the pundits of Paris, started badly. . . . The Bolsheviks were exceedingly anxious to secure their grip on a State which, with its Christian faith and Western traditions, barred their march towards the West. In the letter which Trotsky sent to the French Socialists as long ago as October, 1919, he made it clear in his bragging way that Poland's turn was to come next. That Bolshevist offensive was launched in March, 1920, and failed. ... To say, then, that Marshal Pilsudski attacked Russia, which all the Pacifists and Bolsheviks in England are trumpeting forth every day, is untrue. . . . From the very beginning a violent anti-Polish campaign was started in England, and the English-dockers and railwaymen were called upon to prevent the sending of munitions to Warsaw. . . .

"Dr. Dillon, in his book on the Paris Peace Conference, says: 'Of all the collectivities whose interests were furthered at the Conference the Jews had perhaps the most resourceful and certainly the most influential exponents.  There were Jews from Palestine, from Poland, Russia, the Ukraine, Roumania, Greece, Britain, Holland, and Belgium; but the largest and most brilliant contingent was sent by the United States.' With reference to that great achievement of the Jews at Paris, the Minority Treaties, he [Dr. Dillon] says: 'It may seem amazing to some readers, but it is none the less a fact that a considerable number of Delegates believed that the real influence behind the Anglo-Saxon peoples was Semitic. They confronted the President's proposal on the subject of religious inequality, and, in particular, the odd motive alleged for it, with the measures for the protection of minorities which he subsequently imposed on the lesser States, and which had for their keynote to satisfy the Jewish elements in Eastern Europe. And they concluded that the sequence of expedients framed and enforced in this direction were inspired by the Jews assembled in Paris for the purpose of realizing their carefully thought-out programme, which they succeeded in having substantially executed.' It should be remembered that the original claims of the Jews went much further than those which were eventually sanctioned by the Conference."

The Peace Conference certainly showed itself generous towards the Jews, in particular towards the Jews in Poland, as Mgr. Delassus points out in Les Pourquoi de la Guerre Mondiale (Vol. II, p. 363). "The Conference," he writes, "set up in their favour a regime which made them a State within the State, under the control of the Great Powers. This gave rise to the reluctance of the Poles to sign the Treaty which the Conference proposed to them for signature. .... Article 12 declared that these stipulations constituted international obligations and would be placed under the protection of the League of Nations."

...In some other respects, Poland has reacted against Naturalism. Towards the end of December, 1938, according to the Irish Catholic of January 5, 1939, a Presidential Decree was issued, dissolving all Masonic Associations and closing down all Masonic Lodges in Poland. According to the article, the most widespread were the Jewish (B'nai B'rith), German and Odd Fellows' Lodges. In closing down the Lodges, the writer adds, the police authorities published at the same time the names of their members.... "


Some Polish corroboration in the following:

Hennecke Kardel: "Adolf Hitler, Founder of Israel ["Israel In War - With Jews"] (1974) ISBN 3 85800 001 9 / Translated by the Oficyna Wydawnicza "Fulmen", Warszawa (c) Copyright 1996 Fulmen ISBN 83 86445 020 5 / introductory edition translated by the Publisher, Modjeskis' Society Dedicated to Preservation of Cultures, P.O. Box 193, San Diego, CA 92038, (c) Copyright 1997 ISBN 09657523-0-5.

"... on August 23, 1939 they signed the "German-Soviet Pact of Non-Aggression", which in reality was a German-Soviet pact of division of Poland. On September 28, 1939, the comrades Stalin and Ribbentrop put their signatures energetically on a map of conquered Poland (This map solidifies the Pact with the blood of the Polish Nation. The map shows the Eastern half of Poland assigned to one comrade, and the Western half to another - inset by the Publisher).

  ...not because of the English guarantees in a matter of the "Free City of Danzig" or the "Polish Corridor" (Inset: Giving Poland access to the Baltic Sea), to which Hitler waived claims several times, or to a land route from Germany to East Prussia. To Hitler's warlike preparations against this Poland, reborn after the First World War, was more important the fact that there lived the largest population of Jews in the world, and just across the Great Germany's border.

  Hitler planned expulsion of about four million Jews from Poland. Polish Government even sent a commission to Madagascar which after its return complained about the bad climate there. Foreign Minister of France, George Bonnet, acquiesced. Polish Foreign Minister, Jozef Beck, recognized that this question in the German-Polish relations is very important and decided at the right moment to make public the details of negotiations concerning the Jews. However, only on page 42 of the London's "Polish White Book" one might find a little mention of this matter. ...

  Almost one year later Poland was conquered. Its warfare with the Germans lasted only a few weeks. According to an agreement, which was made shortly before the War, Poland was divided between the Soviet Union and the German Reich.   The "Star Attorney" Hans Frank, a half-Jewish searcher of his Fuehrer's ancestors, moved into the Cracow's Castle of the Polish Kings and acted as if he was a Vice-King. His new title was: "Governor General and Reich's Minister". Others called him a "Polish Butcher." Then Heydrich and Eichmann forced their way into his domain of the "General Guberniya (Province) of Poland" with an attempt to create a State within a State - the Jewish State within the Polish body, the Guberniya. They chose the District of Radom as Eichmann postulated: "We told ourselves, that it was given to us, so again we said, why not resettle the Poles for not too many settlements are there anyway. So to the Jews will be given a big territory, especially for the Eastern Jews, who are extremely talented artisans, needing only a source of work. Also, this will be a territory for the Jews from Austria, Germany, Czechoslovakia / Boehmen, and from the Protectorate of Maehren, and with a developed agriculture, such will be a solution for a while."(67) "For a while", meant, "until Palestine will be ready to take them in."

  Those who arrived there were scared, first by Eichmann, and later by other "Founders" of this remarkable "State within a State". They were told: "Here the Fuehrer gave the Jews a new Homeland. ..." "

"Judaism and the Vatican--An Attempt At Spiritual Subversion" Translated from the French of Vicomte Leon De Poncins by Timothy Tindal-Roberts.

page 108:

"Finally, the heads of the Soviet regimes installed by Moscow in the satellite countries after the war were Jewish:

Rakosi in Hungary, Anna Pauker in Roumania, Slansky in Czecho-Slovakia and Jacob Berman in Poland.
For, as Arthur Bliss Lane, the former United States Ambassador to Poland (1944-7), said:
" . . . the growing anti-Semitism, even our Jewish sources admitted, was caused by the great unpopularity of the Jews in key government positions. These men included Minc, Berman, Olszewski (whose real name was said to be Specht), Radkiewicz and Spychalski. Our Jewish friends said that the Jews in Poland had little regard for the government and resented the implication that the Jews in it were representative of their people. I told the Department of State that, from the reports received, I believed there was bitter feeling within the militia against the Jews because the Security Police, controlled by Radkiewicz, dominated the militia and the Army, and a Russian general, Kiziewicz, dominated the Internal Security Police ( K.B.W.). It was known, furthermore, that both the U.B. and the K.B.W. had, among their members, many Jews of Russian origin." (A.B. Lane, U.S.A. Ambassador to Poland, 1944-7, in I Saw Poland Betrayed, pp. 250-1)"



RoaminLam:

" Wituska was a fluent German-speaker who joined the Polish
Resistance, was captured in 1942 and executed by decapitation two years later."

Ostensibly regrettable but beheading was a favourite not only of the Nazis but historically of the Jews, and one book - title eludes me for the present - comments that after Soviet influence hardened after WW2 one of the Eastern European satellites reintroduced death by decapitation under the auspices of some Justice Ministry Jewish female. The Jews were behind introduction of the Noahide laws into the US, idolatry (i.e. Christianity) punishable by beheading.


Last, as the questions of numbers of Jews in various contexts have been raised, here are some seldom quoted sources on just that subject:

"Judaism and the Vatican--An Attempt At Spiritual Subversion" Translated from the French of Vicomte Leon De Poncins by Timothy Tindal-Roberts.

page 182:

"Indeed, contrary to the estimates put forward at Nuremberg by Mr. Justice Jackson and at Jerusalem during the Eichmann trial by Professor Shalom Baron, the total Jewish population of Europe was far from being as high as 9,600,000, as the former claimed, or 9,800,000, as maintained by the latter.
Between 1933 and 1945 large numbers of Jews from Central Europe emigrated to other countries in order to avoid first the interference and later the persecution of the Germans. Recent statistics confirm this. In his book Le Drame des Juifs europeens, Rassinier deals with this point in the light of extremely precise information.
We recommend the reader who is interested to consult the work himself.
This is the gist of what he says:

Taking into account the constant flow of emigration, Mr. Arthur Ruppin, the most authoritative of the Jewish statisticians, estimates the population at that time at 5,710,000; the Centre de Documentation Juive of Paris and Doctor Korherr put it as respectively 5,294,000 and 5,500,000, and the latter would appear to be the closest to reality. Thus, omitting this calculation, the statistics of survivors established in 1945 are found to be completely false and the margin of error in relation to them represents about 40 per cent of the real figure. The number of survivors, therefore, was not 1,651,000 as was claimed at that time, but something in the order of 4,200,000 or more, which reduces the figure of the missing to between one and one and a half million, and represents a large percentage of the victims.

page 101:

In the last war, one and a half million people from Poland and the Ukraine were deported by the Soviet Union:

"Interrogated at Nuremberg on 21st March 1946, by General Rudenko, the Russian prosecutor, Field-Marshal Goering replied that 'one million people from Poland and the Ukraine were deported from territories occupied by the Soviet Union and taken to the East and Far-East' (C.R. des debats, vol. ix , p. 673) but he was not allowed to quote references or to proceed further. The first Polish government of London has however published a document according to which the number of Poles deported was between 1,000,000 and 1,600,000 of whom 400,000 died on the journey; among the dead were 77,834 out of 144,000 children according to information provided by the American Red Cross . . . the Russians extended the process to the Baltic States, whence they deported 60,940 Esthonians, 60,000 Latvians and 70,000 Lithuanians. . . "
(Rassinier, Le Veritable Proces Eichmann, p. 44)"


"Dupes Of Judah: A Challenge to The American Legion".
by Pelley of the Silvershirts (William Dudley Pelley)

Chapter VIII:

"According to the Jewish Statistical Bureau there were only 4,228,029 Jews designated as residents of the United States in 1927, ten years after we entered the war. But in 1937, ten years later, the number had jumped to 12,046,648 -- an increase of 8,818,639.
That's an increase of 17,000 Jews a week in this country, every week for ten years!
Have they got any right here? Have they come in defiance of immigration quotas or have they not? Have our immigration quotas broken down? Or has our government been turned so far Yiddish that no restraints can be put upon this influx even if illegal?"

  The 45 Questions Most Frequently Asked About the Jews; With the Answers by Pelley Copyright 1939 by William Dudley Pelley

"30. How many Jews are there in the whole world today?

  Answer -- Jewish populations are usually deceptive when given in the census figures, because Jews are forever trying to hide their Jewish nationality or race. Furthermore, when Jewish authorities compile a strictly Jewish census, they count males who have attained to their majorities only. As the average human family of any race customarily consists of five persons, we are safe in multiplying whatever figures the Jews give us of their numbers by five, or adding four times the original figure. Gentiles do not possess an accurate count of all the Jews in all the countries of the earth, but 80 millions -- men, women, and children -- would not be a wild estimate. Doubtless it is nearer a hundred millions, considering that the earth holds 2 billion inhabitants. That there are something like 25 million Jews, males and of age, within the civilized countries of the earth is a sound possibility. Of these, some 12,046,648 are in the United States at the present time. Only ten years ago, the figure, from Jewish sources, was set at 4,228,029. In other words, Jews in the United States have increased by 7,818,619 since 1927 -- an average of something like 15,000 a week! Fully half the world's Jews would seem to be within the United States at the present time. And arrangements are being completed under the American Jewish leaders and the Roosevelt Administration to bring the rest here as swiftly as it ran be managed!"

To similar effect see A.H. Lane: "The Alien Menace" (1934).


Basically, I confirm agreement with Roy Hobs: " The Nameless War" is a good concise primer and yes, Gary Allen = Alex Jones.

[Negentropic]

Helphand wrote:
Ostensibly regrettable but beheading was a favourite not only of the Nazis but historically of the Jews, and one book - title eludes me for the present - comments that after Soviet influence hardened after WW2 one of the Eastern European satellites reintroduced death by decapitation under the auspices of some Justice Ministry Jewish female. The Jews were behind introduction of the Noahide laws into the US, idolatry (i.e. Christianity) punishable by beheading.

If you're talking about Germans carrying out beheading by sword and axe and such, beep, wrong. If you mean the guillotine (or Fallbeil as the German version was called) ?  Yes, in some instances (see below). It sure is gruesome because of the blood and the imagery of losing one's head, but it was actually intended as a more humane execution device in opposition to hanging & beheading by sword. Gruesome and as a result causing more psychological suffereing for the condemned awaiting the blade for sure while in reality and in the strictly physical execution itself, it causes a much quicker death and less pain and  physical suffering.  If someone is already for the death penalty for certain serious crimes then the arguments for the inhumanity of beheading by guillotine are strictly psychological.


(GIL-uh-teen, GEE-uh-teen)

noun: A device with a heavy blade that drops between two posts to behead someone.
verb: To execute by guillotine or to cut as if with a guillotine.

Etymology

After French physician Joseph-Ignace Guillotin (1738-1814) who recommended its use. Ironically the instrument designed as a humane device has come to symbolize tyranny. Dr. Guillotin realized that hanging by rope or beheading by a sword were cruel and urged a more humane method of execution, one that was swift and relatively painless. Dr. Antoine Louis, secretary of the College of Surgeons, designed a device that was called a Louisette or Louison in the beginning, but eventually became known as a guillotine.




http://www.answers.com/topic/guillotine


The guillotine evokes images of horrifying and bloody public executions during the French Revolution in the eighteenth century. Many historians consider this device the first execution method that lessened the victim's pain and the first step in raising public awareness of the morality of the death penalty. It is difficult, however, to think of the guillotine as humane when descriptions of blood flowing in the streets of Paris paint such a gruesome picture.

The guillotine was used for a single purpose, decapitation. The device releases a blade that falls about 89 in (226 cm). With the combined weight of the blade and the mouton (a metal weight), the guillotine can cut through the neck in 0.005 seconds. Expert craftsmen, such as carpenters, metal workers, and blacksmiths, made parts of the guillotine separately and then others assembled the parts at the site of the execution. The guillotine was never mass-produced.


http://boisdejustice.com/History/History.html




Statements like this, however:

"The machine only was used in 18 executions from 1856 to 1917. After this time, the executions started becoming more frequent and when the Nazis took power in 1933 the Fallbeils started working around the clock claiming far more victims than the guillotine did during the Terror years of the French Revolution."

which they pull straight out of their ass, made on the same page about National Socialists using the Guillotine around the clock and claiming more victims than the French Revolution  are an absolute crock of shit to say the least. The reality was far different:

Throughout August 1943 the Reichsf¸hrer and Gestapo rounded up German dissidents.  The aged and infirm were let off with a warning.  The more able-bodied, "not more than 150 in all" Himmler boasted, were put to the guillotine.  The most dangerous group was, however, left at large :  in March, Himmler had warned Hitler that certain nuclei of ex-ministers and dismissed army generals were beginning to plot a coup d'etat.  There was General Franz Halder, whom he codenamed "Reservist" ("As he's holding himself in reserve to take over the German army," Himmler sneered in August 1944);  and he was also keeping watch on the former finance minister, Johannes Popitz, and his circle under the code name "Baroque" ("Because that's just what they were :  baroque !").  For months Popitz had been trying to establish contact with Himmler through an intermediary, a lawyer called Carl Langbehn.  The lawyer explained to the crafty Reichsf¸hrer that the war must be stopped, peace made with Britain, and the F¸hrer pensioned off.  Himmler at once told Hitler :  "I'll bump him off right now—what cheek !"—meaning Popitz.  But Hitler laughed.  "No, not that.  Hear him out first.  Send for him, and if in that conversation he puts his cards straight on the table, then you can arrest him !"  Himmler—appointed minister of the interior on August 20 in place of Dr. Wilhelm Frick, whom Hitler found infuriatingly timid and legalistic—sent for Popitz three days later and secretly recorded the entire conversation on magnetic wire.  Gestapo officials stood by to arrest the man, but—Himmler ruefully admitted later—Popitz would not be lured out of his reserve and he left the building a free man.(4)

from David Irving HITLER'S WAR  "Axis"

http://www.fpp.co.uk/books/Hitler/1977/html_chapter/31.html

[Helphand]

Yes, Guillotine, or to use its historical antecedent's name, the Halifax Maiden   :?    I remember seeing years ago on the Hitler Channel some mini guillotines arrayed for use which the hushed voiceover said were adopted by the Nazis on the grounds that Hitler regarded beheading as a sort of insulting way to be executed. Beats hanging by piano wire though I guess.

[Helphand]

Just an afterthought but I think an important one, otherwise over and out on this one.

While Ramsay's "The Nameless War" (1952) is a good historical primer, a more up to date document which draws on established writers is "The Longest Hatred--An Examination of Anti-Gentilism"  (1991) by the late Lady Jane Birdwood (dec'd. 2000). This has been discussed in Sanctum under Must Read Books/ Must See Videos. Hoffman's "Judaism Discovered" (2008) makes a couple of interesting remarks about her death-by-bicycle.

http://www.datafilehost.com/download-5b69e858.html

Subject Headings:

-- Publisher's Foreword.

-- The Banking Racket.
---- The Bank Fraud: How It Works.
---- The Bank Fraud: How It Was Invented.

-- Bank of England and the National Debt.
---- U.S. "Federal Reserve" A Similar Racket.
---- Behind Those Bank TV Adverts....

-- Control of Monetary Issue Must Return to the Crown.
---- "Her Majesty's Inspector of Taxes" A Lie.
---- National Independence: Japan Shows The Way.

-- The Rothschilds: Hereditary Princes of Usury.
---- A Russian Count On The Rothschild Dynasty.

-- The Banking System Corrupts "Democracy".
---- Banks Create Inflation and Recession.
---- Parliament: The Tool Of The Bankers.
---- The Centre Of The Money Power.

-- Tyranny Computerised in the "Cashless Society".

-- Communism is Jewish.
---- Banks Control Capitalism And Communism.
---- The "Cold War" A Fraud.
---- American Intelligence Officers Expose The Jews Behind Communism.
---- Zionism And Communism: Jewish Twins.
---- Why The Change In Eastern Europe?

-- The Real Reason For Coloured Immigration into Britain.
---- Race-Mixing Is Deadlier Than The H-Bomb.
---- The Race Laws.
---- Plans Formulated Years Ago.
---- Race-Mixing: The Lesson Of History Suppressed.
---- "Make Racism A Dirty Word".
---- Immigration And The Slave Trade: The Jewish Connection.

-- The Media: An Instrument of the Bankers.

-- "Anti-Semitism Caused by Jewish Anti-Gentilism.
---- Talmudic Blasphemies.
---- "Fundamentally, Judaism Is Anti-Christian" ("The Jewish World", March 1923).
---- "The Jews And Their Lies".
---- Organised Evil.

-- Masonic Secret Societies Are Controlled by Jewry.
---- Planned Chaos.
---- "Beloved Brethren Of Moses...".

-- Deliberately Contrived Wars.
---- The *Real* Iraqi Conflict.

-- The Truth Reversed in "Holocaust" Hoax.
---- Mass Extermination By Gas Chambers -- How *The Jews* Say It Was Done.
---- What Fred Leuchter's Evidence Revealed.
---- Anne Frank's Story.

-- The Jews Were Expelled From Britain Once Before.
---- Good Queen Bess Expelled The Blacks.

-- Publisher's Preface To Appendix.

-- The Bible and Multiracialism.

-- Zionists Misdirect Education.

-- Zionist Hoax Unmasked.

-- The Destruction of Evil -- The Triumph of Good.

         o0o

[Negentropic]

Germany 1939-1940 - Rare Color Photos LIFE Magazine

http://viewer.zoho.com/docs/uabXdT