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[LatinAmericanview]

thanks bro! I have had limited internet service. Cheers
Latin

[Ognir]

Pretty decent show there LaV, some excelelnt points made, got me thinking about a few things

Og

[LatinAmericanview]

Thank you.  My next show will hopefully be even better.

[Anonymous]

I'm sure it will be  They always have good info and views packed in

[GordZilla]

Hi Latin,

 Finally got around to listening to your Number 7. Again, another good show. But of course the inevitable 'However' ; It seems the comments about the Bible – it's references to the evil we're experiencing now-  and the reference to Khanverse's site we're completely disregarded. That is a shame. There's tons of material there to be had on the subject. As for the question of soul? Well you admit you're a philosophy graduate, that's too bad - never has a great philosopher ever been a 'graduate', except for the modern and often dismissed ones. Like most higher education, it is only purpose is to program the end user, teach them how to think LESS critically by focusing more into a specific course of study, it serves to build confidence and blind faith, it does teach them to speak and write well but in the end it's greatest achievement is to make the end user feel their money wasn't wasted. But back to the soul, the greatest 'proof', as it were, is your conscious.  You dismiss it, because it's not physical? Well then the idea of God would certainly be lost on you. But as for imperial truth? Even the best minds in astrology , and cosmology (yes again, not a big fan of either study ...I don't need a astrologist to tell me there's stars anymore than I need a weatherman to tell me it's windy) but back to the point; even their best minds have to conclude the universe has a point of creation, which must have existed outside of the physical, outside of time, matter and energy. You're right, we can't know for sure, but we will later. All I know for sure is nobody has better insight into the human, especially when pertaining to topics like those discussed on this forum, than the old book itself – nobody full stop.

  It cannot be ignored, and the tide is changing out there, not to a growth in religion but rather to a healthy fear of God. "Wisdom begins at the fear of God" there is no truer statement.  The more one investigates our current situation, the more one realizes these people who "are of their father, the king of all lies" are wrought with evil and deception.One also realizes that He told you about this over 2000 years ago – at a time when NONE had an inkling of what the 'Khazars' would later do in Jacob's name.  There are numerous insights into their evils to be found within that book, but never mind that - just look for yourself, they ARE different, they do things to people our CONSCIOUS would never allow us to do (in general – as they act as a group to perpetuate these evils  try to imagine the gentiles doing the same – fricken IMPOSSIBLE!  the very word 'gentleman' comes from the word gentile as does gently, etc)  Are they actually different inside? I wager YES! ...but we've been there before; you cannot believe that argument as it would also argue the case for the 'soul', or - in their case- lack thereof. Too bad again, as your missing the bigger picture. Seriously look more into it before dismissing it out of hand.  I'm not trying to convert you – I don't recommend church either, but as for God? I think it would be best to revisit 'Pascal's wager'.
I think I may have dropped this link here before, but if you want to look at the scientific evidence for creation this site is solid, check this video for example;

http://evolutionisfalse.blogspot.com/20 ... ation.html

-Gord

P.S. don't feel the need to address this on your radio show, You handle other topics just as well, the more we harp back and forth on this debate the less interest we'll garner. As we all know we should never argue religion, at least not on the air!   Here, if admin allows, we can.  I agree with your summarization of why  DBS is not bringing this up; it will detract from listeners. But investigation is a two way street.

 P.S.S. if not for God's faiths, the Talmudic Jews would have long since won. Islam and Cristianity have been their only stumbling block. But yes 'religion' can hide criminals – BUT God exposes them, even those within the church.

"Not trying to make you a believer, don't want a little piece of your heart" –The Tragically Hip –Lake of Fever

[Anonymous]

What I believe - Bertrand Russell addresses the soul in 1925.  You may like to read it.

Also I am into John Allegro - The Mushroom and the Cross opened my eyes quite a bit.

[high_treason]

I agree with Gordzilla, if Islam and Christianity weren't such an obstacle to them they wouldn't have been pushing to destroy them both. Look at all the media coverage that goes to pedophile priests and muslims mistreatment of women and you will see that it is organized and whenever someone starts talking shit about how bad and abusive religion especially muslims these days they show them as heros to be followed. But I have never heard a mention of the pedophile rabbis until I stumbled on a link from one of the posts here.

For instance Europe historically has always been a Christian continent but look at what Chirac and Schruder did to keep God out of the EU charter, samething happened with the UN charter article 25 the supereme authority is with the security council no mention of God. So religion to you maybe a form of control but to them it is a big big obstacle because it warns us of them. Besides there is no Christian or Muslim governments left in the world today, they are all secular but the people are still Muslims and Christians.

P.S. Saudi Arabia and Iran might say they apply Sharia law but they both have banks and other Un-Islamic laws and Saudi Arabia is a Kingdom which is against Islamic law which preaches elections (Sho'ora).

[Anonymous]

Also I am into John Allegro - The Mushroom and the Cross opened my eyes quite a bit.

The Sacred Mushroom and the Cross
and
The Dead Sea Scrolls and the Christian Myth

They are awesome books everyone should read!  Want to wake up to the manipulation?  Read them.  Fertility and mushroom cult mystery school origins of religions.  Look at my avatar, that is Eve with the snake rapped around... hmmm... mushrooms?  Where does it come from?  It is Christian iconography from Plaincourault, France.  Look at some more:  http://johnallegro.org/main/index.php?m ... Album_id=1

A fair warning, to truly understand The Sacred Mushroom and the Cross, you will need to at least learn the Hebrew alephbet and Greek alphabet.  Without being able to read the words and see their philological roots as they relate to each other you will not be able to grasp the complexity of the relations between words from different languages and the roots of their meanings.  Buy the book.  The version on scribd.com and on the net does not have the reference section, which makes up 1/3 - 1/2 of the book!  If you are just gong to read the PDF version, you don't need to know those Greek and Hebrew letters, but you are going to have to take his word for it when he makes a claim.

He also uses Aramaic, Phoenician, Arabic and Persian to relate words for the many languages.  But I couldn't get the hang on the curved Arabic structure, I gave up on trying to read those letters.  Hebrew and Greek are much easier to read, with Greek being the simplest.

Peace.

[LatinAmericanview]

Dear Gord,
I am genuinely offended by your comments. In the end your argument is an appeal to authority.

You're right, we can't know for sure, but we will later. All I know for sure is nobody has better insight into the human (condition), especially when pertaining to topics like those discussed on this forum, than the old book (surely you mean the Schofield bible?) itself – nobody full stop.

Your proof?  I would also like to use the quote as an example of DOUBLE THINK.  However, bad reasoning aside, I reply to comments and objections because some of criticism of my shows are valid. I am sincere in my quest for understanding.  Unfortunately, there is very little that can be known with any degree of certainly. Lastly, thank you Gord! Your comments and criticisms force me to defend my position.  

Mister Savage-
To claim that Jews hate Christianity and Islam and want to destroy them; therefore, these religions are somehow valid or true.  Deep sigh-

You win!  I am at a loss for words.

[LatinAmericanview]

Europe historically has always been a Christian continent

What where the people of Europe before the Christian conquers? My people had various natural beliefs or Mayan beliefs.  We have been a Christian people only 500 years.

[joeblow]

Latin, Kurds such as myself became Muslims 1200 years ago, before we were Christian and Jewish, but I do not think that amoung Muslim Kurds that there are any tendancies or traditions left over from our previous religions (other than the common fire-jumping that all Iranic people share). After even a couple of generations, the new religion will remain and the worshipers will probably not regress to their former faiths. I should mention that current genetic studies show that a majority of Latin Americans are majority "White" with "Indian" mixture. The only area with majority "Indian" genes are Central America and the top of South America. I saw a picture of you wearing glasses on the comment section of another blog, I have been to Mexico many times (Monterrey and Reynosa) and seen full-blooded Indians. You appearance does not seem very similar to the Native Americans that I have come across in the USA or Mexico.

[Anonymous]

What does Latin being more white or Native American or Latino or what not have to do with this religious discussion?  I just fail to see the point in bringing it up...  please clarify your position.  Latin's identity is that of the culture he chooses to belong to, as far as I see it.  There are other aspects of identity, and if we go with race, well he can still identify with the white man and "latin" mans racial identity as they both make up who he is.  In saying his people, his people are the people he lives amongst (which he can or cannot be racially identical too), and those people have a history going back to when the Mayan or Aztec culture existed before Cristian conquistadors came over here...

No offense Latin.  Feel free to blast me on this one

[joeblow]

I applogize if I caused any offense. It is just that when one says "my people", one generally assumes the racial ascept of group membership. As I have discussed with Latin privately, the Metizo race is the newest human race in existance and seperate from its Mesoamerican ancestor.

It does bring the issue of Ashekanzi claims of Semitic ancenstry to mind, but in this case there is a definite link.

[Canard]

Latin, please take a look at Derren Brown Messiah, he goes undercover under 5 beliefs systems and convinces experts in these areas that he is also an 'adept' when knowing nothing and playing their assumptions.  Its quite clever and since you are so into philosophy and faith I thought you'd love this.  I also have my suspicions about who Brown works for as the Rothschild bank is featured in a high profile manner in one of his big TV specials.

[LatinAmericanview]

I applogize if I caused any offense. It is just that when one says "my people", one generally assumes the racial ascept of group membership. As I have discussed with Latin privately, the Metizo race is the newest human race in existance and seperate from its Mesoamerican ancestor.

It does bring the issue of Ashekanzi claims of Semitic ancestry to mind, but in this case there is a definite link.

Look I am mostly white.  At least, 50 percent.  Most of the people in my country Nicaragua are biracial as Agent Joe Blow described them.  However, as my ex-wife's relatives are quick to point out- I am not white!  Moreover, culturally I am more western than anything else.  I am also fairly good looking. If any ladies are reading this please feel free to PM me.  I guess what I am saying is bring back Kublakan worship and the human sacrifices. :lol:

[LatinAmericanview]

Latin, please take a look at Derren Brown Messiah, he goes undercover under 5 beliefs systems and convinces experts in these areas that he is also an 'adept' when knowing nothing and playing their assumptions.  Its quite clever and since you are so into philosophy and faith I thought you'd love this.  I also have my suspicions about who Brown works for as the Rothschild bank is featured in a high profile manner in one of his big TV specials.

Thanks canard!  I did look into it and I joined the opentheology forum just discuss D. Brown.  It is some very thought provoking material.  Thank you.

50% White latin

[GordZilla]

Dear Gord,
I am genuinely offended by your comments. In the end your argument is an appeal to authority.

You're right, we can't know for sure, but we will later. All I know for sure is nobody has better insight into the human (condition), especially when pertaining to topics like those discussed on this forum, than the old book (surely you mean the Schofield bible?) itself – nobody full stop.

Your proof?  I would also like to use the quote as an example of DOUBLE THINK.  However, bad reasoning aside, I reply to comments and objections because some of criticism of my shows are valid. I am sincere in my quest for understanding.  Unfortunately, there is very little that can be known with any degree of certainly. Lastly, thank you Gord! Your comments and criticisms force me to defend my position.  

Dear Latin,

 "Offended" really? Just what offended you? You interjecting words while quoting me? Calling anyone who believes in a God an f'n idiot? Just what exactly?

 "Proof" ? I left you many links now, and references to the bible describing 'Khazarian' behavior in full detail, you have continued to ignore that. I also provided you with a great site which looks into the science behind my argument, and lastly I invited you to check Khanverse's forum to look closer into this debate.  There are many threads there that have been opened on this topic while in this forum we're not encouraged to debate God and religion.  And finally, the proof is everywhere; as they are exactly the same people with the same traits (to the letter) as described in that book  some 1500 years before Shakespeare's Merchant of Venice. In fact there is no where you'll find anything that remotely describes the Talmudic Jews -in all their evil- than in that book. Not for almost 2000 years will we see that type of human insight. This is what your ignoring, and that's a rather huge point to ignore.

"Appeal to authority" ? What cause I said we won't know for sure till later? Or perhaps it was the 'nobody full stop' bit?  If it's the later than please refer to the above paragraph, or simply; It's the FACT of the matter and cannot be dismissed just because it doesn't fit into your particular puzzle.

"Double think" ? On that one you got me, but only because I was entertaining you. I was being a little dishonest to save from having an argument. See I do know for sure there's a God (but that comes off sounding 'preachy'). In fact it's that part that scares me the most!  As I'm a full blooded sinner. Also the first sentence was a type-o it should have read;  "You're right, we can't know THAT for sure, but we will later "- pertaining the question of there being a supreme being or God.

"Schofield bible"? – Now we're just having fun with each other.

I like your shows, Latin, and I encourage you to keep them going. But in the same way DBS won't talk about God for the fear of alienating a few listeners (a good point of yours by the way), you should also know you could alienate a few by doing just the opposite.  Attack the cancer, not the cells. Christians and Muslims, as dumb and as brainwashed as most may be, will in the end be our biggest allies. The cancer is left standing on its own , when you look at it in this respect.  Most of the religious are GOOD people, not all sure, but most (regardless of which religion -except one). They just need REAL leadership,  not the church, TV  etc. These are not the people to alienate from our collective message  - the message of the truth.

 And please don't take offence to this post, I started off abrupt and crudely only to make a point - not to further aggravate this. I sincerely do like you work, I'm just very weary of church and God bashing. There's a lot of it on all sides and frankly as stupid as most of the religious tend to be, they are still not the REAL problem.

-Gord

"  'A generation's always dumber than it's parents'  came crashing thru the window" –The Tragically Hip – The Hundredth Meridian

[LatinAmericanview]

El Gord,
I love your posts. And no you don't offend me.  My frustration with religion is that fact that it has  such a large affect on a large portion of countrymen.  Love of God has taken the starch from their shirts.  They are not willing to fight.  They say it is all god's divine plan.  This coming from my next door neighbor- a Jehovah Wittiness.  Lastly, I have been looking at religious beliefs as weapons. Consider the idea that someone handles John Hagee.  Hagee can put political press on the system because he influences such a large number of followers. Consider the radical Islamic or the submissive Jehovah Witnesses a wide arrange of effects can had.  Lastly what if we can prove that some of these beliefs were the product of Rothschild propaganda then we would certainly have to warn our brothers.  Food for thought

Cheers
Latin

ps my next show will be religion free- I hope

pps I recently read an interesting book- Iron Curtin over America- The author talks about Judiazed Khazars.  I think his undertone was that the khazarians were weaponized Jews.  Religions are life instructions for people. The Talmud or the kabala is a training manual for terrorists.

[GordZilla]

El Gord,
I love your posts. And no you don't offend me.  My frustration with religion is that fact that it has  such a large affect on a large portion of countrymen.  Love of God has taken the starch from their shirts.  They are not willing to fight.  They say it is all god's divine plan.  This coming from my next door neighbor- a Jehovah Wittiness.  Lastly, I have been looking at religious beliefs as weapons. Consider the idea that someone handles John Hagee.  Hagee can put political press on the system because he influences such a large number of followers. Consider the radical Islamic or the submissive Jehovah Witnesses a wide arrange of effects can had.  Lastly what if we can prove that some of these beliefs were the product of Rothschild propaganda then we would certainly have to warn our brothers.  Food for thought

Cheers
Latin

ps my next show will be religion free- I hope

pps I recently read an interesting book- Iron Curtin over America- The author talks about Judiazed Khazars.  I think his undertone was that the khazarians were weaponized Jews.  Religions are life instructions for people. The Talmud or the kabala is a training manual for terrorists.

Ok cool, I hate making enemies (so easy to do anymore isn't it? When you bring topics like these up in mainstream ..you're bound to be hated real fast ....."Kill the Nazi!" The fascist cry).

-Gord

p.s I do have to say this, sorry   , Haggee, and Jehovah's etc ...ALL of them are ALLOWED to exist, Haggee is on TV as he's allowed to be ...yes he has power, but only as long as (and not a second longer) as it serves their purposes. Sorry just a bad example, Haggee's 'power' is given and controlled.

[Canard]

Latin, please take a look at Derren Brown Messiah, he goes undercover under 5 beliefs systems and convinces experts in these areas that he is also an 'adept' when knowing nothing and playing their assumptions.  Its quite clever and since you are so into philosophy and faith I thought you'd love this.  I also have my suspicions about who Brown works for as the Rothschild bank is featured in a high profile manner in one of his big TV specials.

Thanks canard!  I did look into it and I joined the opentheology forum just discuss D. Brown.  It is some very thought provoking material.  Thank you.

50% White latin

Link?

100 % American Canard!!!!
 :ugeek:

[kolnidre]

pps I recently read an interesting book- Iron Curtin over America- The author talks about Judiazed Khazars.  I think his undertone was that the khazarians were weaponized Jews.  Religions are life instructions for people. The Talmud or the kabala is a training manual for terrorists.

Ok cool, I hate making enemies (so easy to do anymore isn't it? When you bring topics like these up in mainstream ..you're bound to be hated real fast ....."Kill the Nazi!" The fascist cry).

"Weaponized Jews." I read Beatty's book, too, but wasn't witty enough to come away with that concept. Awesome.

I recently got the "Kill the Nazi" treatment on a more mainstream forum. Well, actually I was simply banned without notice or fanfare, and all it took was a post with tons of facts on the USS Liberty attack. I'm offended that I wasn't at least allowed to kick dirt on the umpire's shoes and throw stuff out onto the field.

Glad to see Gord and Latin douse the flames. Both of you are valued members here.

[LatinAmericanview]

p.s I do have to say this, sorry , Haggee, and Jehovah's etc ...ALL of them are ALLOWED to exist, Haggee is on TV as he's allowed to be ...yes he has power, but only as long as (and not a second longer) as it serves their purposes. Sorry just a bad example, Haggee's 'power' is given and controlled.

We Agree! However I think of him as a piece on the board.  Some rules over him. Can be seen as a weapon pointed at the Muslim community.

[LatinAmericanview]

kolnidre, I will try to expand on weaponized jew concept during the next show.

latin

[Ragnarok]

Once again nice show, Latin.  I especially appreciated your discussion near the end about the Armageddon ritual.  I trek through many of these forums, and one thing I notice consistently across the board is infection with prophesy crap.  All the monotheists, the new-agers, the alien people and other niche groups all have their own prophesies.  It is a major psychological weapon being used against people, and nobody wants to expose it.  I see the issue as one of prime importance and I appreciate you discussing it.

[LatinAmericanview]

And no one will expose it since everyone has a piece of that power pie.  That is how you know that i am honest.

[shZ]

Inductive v.s. deductive reasoning... this is right up my alley . Are you a Computer Science or Philosophy student?

[LatinAmericanview]

Philosophy student. I guess that would be a way of describing me.  Thanks for the comments and listening.