TFC: Monday, 13 December, 2010 - DBS / M. Rafiq

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TFC: Monday, 13 December, 2010 - DBS / M. Rafiq

http://iamthewitness.com/audio/Muhammad ... 3-2010.mp3


00:00-10:00
DBS: gold is up in price today which is fairly unusual for commodities at the start of the week. Blame is being laid on China's tightening of its bank reserve requirements and interest rates to curb mounting inflation. Every time USA 's QE happens the insiders indulge in the carry trade and look for global opportunities so they have invested in China resulting in prices rising. Chinese investors conversely have been buying houses. But many unoccupied apartments despite a likely need from the badly housed. With the travails in Europe and America the Chinese Government has been trying to fan domestic demand but people are leaving the cities and returning to the countryside as demand is not sustaining employment levels. The Assange/wikileaks sideshow / pretext for an internet lockdown trundles on. Assange saying 9/11 should not be discussed and already sorted... Attacks on mastercard etc websites. Domestic fuel costs up 15-20%. Economic pressures.
MR: energy suppliers in UK are hiking their prices. Government saying retail price inflation is 2.5-3% but this is a nonsense. Example of a working man with a good employment record increasingly experiencing J-O-B--just over broke, now in the red being chased by creditors on the phone on Sundays despite not spending on anything other than necessaries and finding that year on year he can't tread water financially despite working as hard as ever.


10:00-20:00
He can see what the score is and that the Government is not telling the truth. The man is doing overtime, does not have time to explore issues like those discussed on TFC, but he knows the Government has made a mess and it's starting to hurt him. But things have got immeasurably worse so they can't be covered up with just lies.
DBS: lying statistics issued by government.
MR: the credibility of politicians, journalists, bankers is going down the pan.
DBS: H1N1 vaccine nonsense--vaccines are full of poison, the public did not buy the fear a couple of years ago when this particular drumbeat was sounding {listen to Dr Carley / Patrick Jordan on RBN on Saturdays.} Same for the global warming lie. Last, the wikileaks assault on credibility. People examined cui bono--who derives benefit from the disclosure--and deduce it has the fingerprints of the security services all over it, plus the Guardian newspaper (DBS believes an MI6 organ).
MR: on TFC we have done lots of analysis of the modus operandi of the opposition and as a result many people understand how the criminals try to sell their stories.


20:00-30:00
Now hundreds of thousands of people known what to look for to test if the latest story is true or not.
DBS: government hackers are the true supporters of wikileaks behind the attacks on websites like Amazon, FBI, mastercard. They may still try and push anti-internet freedom legislation despite the failure of their deception.
MR: 3/4 years ago it would have been hard to convince people it was a scam; now people know better and are better placed themselves to analyse events like this. The tipping point has arrived.  BBC Radio 4 swallows any answer from politicos being interviewed and accept it. Intellectually insulting to listen to. For cabbage patch minds only.
DBS: TFC numbers from Ireland growing exponentially. Regarding Irish banks bail out and budget, in the Dáil Fine Gail and independents are not yet 100% on board yet with approving the budget. Sinn Fein has said it will not vote in support of it. But Fine Fáil is 100% on board with the criminals. Looking like the budget may not be passed. {Since passed fairly comfortably.} Ireland a small country of 4.5mio, people know where their political representatives live... Real IRA one of only groups that fight for the Irish people unlike the IRA which was infiltrated and controlled by intelligence services {one wonders if Tony Cliff, a.k.a. Ygael Gluckstein, is still around from the 1970s fomenting communist disorder in Ireland; who are the current day pushers of communism? ID them and check out their affiliations--sure to lead to British security services and Israel.
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    MR: the Irish not duped into scams easily and once bitten, twice shy so the likes of Common Purpose unlikely to gain ground.


    30:00-40:00
    DBS: Sigmund Freud said the Irish couldn't be hypnotised because they didn't trust anyone!
    MR: also impervious to psycho-analysis, no head games. They will retaliate.
    DBS: Portugal, Belgium next in default stakes like Italy which has 1.4trillion in debt. Germany unwilling to bail out more. The Zionist front men are looking nervous {check out B.S. Bernanke's performance when being quizzed by Rep. Grayson over who received TARP funds.} People less bothered about being called an anti-Semite since they know most of the people in the Middle East now are Palestinians!
    MR: the education process in this matter has led to a sort of new age of enlightenment. Don't forget Germany bailed out East Germany on reunification and have previously lived under austerity measures. They want a poverty holiday. Public-Private-Partnership government guarantees of private massively leveraged financings were non-disclosable in government financial reporting--misleading. Now find British Government is liable  for leveraged debt not 1:1 but 6:1.
    DBS: Germany's manufacturing--it is an export nation but their overseas customers are tightening up. {Remember "Judea Declares War On Germany" in 1933!} They also increasingly dislike their Zionist-friendly head Merkel.


    40:00-50:00
    Children the first to suffer in an economic downturn. A return to make do and mend. German mindset will soon start showing signs of dissidence. A painful education for all leading to the conclusion that a new system is needed after a series of jubilees cancelling debt and trying and punishing the perpetrators. If seen fit, at the level of treason, with the ultimate sanction. {Woh, does this mean hand amputations and beheadings like in Judeo-Saudi Arabia?!!} Only safe way forward is to ban the group from public / official roles. Take the Chinese approach to corruption... it's the only way to keep a lid on it.
    DBS: we do these broadcasts to bring forward the news of the day. Bullion banks fronting for the criminals.  JPM has huge silver short to depress the price, already seeing backwardation {price for delivery today higher than price in future, reverse of the usual situation} and while Bernanke has effectively shown commitment to bail out the banks without limit, someone said for every USD1 increase in price its a US$4billion cost to JPM. If silver price goes to US$50, the sky's the limit for costs. Will lead to hyperinflation. John Williams {www.shadowstats.com} video.
    MR: holding down price of silver and gold because USD is rising and this is being claimed as a sign of recovery. The effect of the silver shorts is to create the illusion that there is more silver than exists in reality so this lowers the price. Can other market participants force the position and initiate the rise of silver/gold prices and thereby huge costs to the banks? Theoretically, yes. But in reality the governments will bail out the bank's costs i.e. the taxpayer at large will pay so no real loss to the bullion banks. Other mechanisms will be sought to keep the price of metals down outside the markets, perhaps through publishing false statistics, false financial info.


    50:00-60:00
    DBS: hedge funds, wealth management companies etc need to show by year end that they were in the performing asset classes; this year it is gold so a lot movement by them into gold ownership.  {But conversely, any price reduction and sales of gold and silver as these companies realise profits by sale in December, especially in a year when the price has already gone up 20-25%?}
    MR: so a swing in the December month because bonuses get paid soon so impulse to maximise appearance of profit and losses are left to reappear in the new year. Gold, silver, platinum prices might benefit from this.  TFC has been recommending gold for 4 years.
    DBS: it's a hedge like buildings insurance against fire also not just for primarily for trading gains. USD and Euro are being debased. Gold rationale is to preserve wealth, maybe even with profit potential but primarily to protect against currency debasement.
    MR: hard nosed cynics of finance industry are now converts as they see gold and silver generating profits. Can also buy in currency ~x~ and sell in currency ~y~  for possible further gains.
    DBS: some currencies will do better than others, Canadian Dollar, Swiss Franc and Australian Dollar maybe better bets-- Canadian and Australian Dollars based on economies reliant on natural resources.  Swiss Franc is outside the US and Euro zone with a 1000 year history of stability and associations with the crooks themselves who might like to keep their SFr investments up! Argentine and Brazil currencies also doing moderately well, Jews buying land in Patagonia. DBS would avoid Euro, USD, GBP and Swedish Krona.
    MR: Swiss Franc historically was backed by gold and the disconnect was only recent, easy to go back to it.
    DBS: Swiss Franc 5/6 years ago was 2 to USD1, now it's 96c:1USD. But hope gold does not become the backing for some international currency.


    60:00-64:00
    Also mises.org wanted gold backing so suspect. James Gibb Stuart / Bromsgrove Group was right with ideas on stable currencies and the absence of any need for gold backing.
    MR: waiting for the economic dam to burst.
    DBS: new recommendation to listen to Deanna Spingola at RBN:
      http://republicbroadcasting.org/
      http://www.spingola.com/
      http://www.newswithviews.com/Spingola/deannaA.htm
      {Michael Collins Piper is now off RBN, fired by John Stadtmiller or did he jump? Either way he is reportedly starting his own show at http://michaelcollinspiper.podbean.com}


  • {"The Irish Revolution now in progress is not the result of the Irish national movement; Sinn Fein is merely the tool of the International organization for carrying out the plan laid down by Marx.  As long ago as 1870 this secret message was sent by Marx from London to the Internationale in Geneva:

1. England is the only country in which a real Socialistic revolution can be made.
2. The English people cannot make this revolution.
3. Foreigners must make it for them.
4. The foreign members, therefore, must retain their seats at the London board.
5. The point to strike at first is Ireland, and in Ireland they are ready to begin their work.

This is what is happening today.  The chaos now reigning in Ireland is simply the prelude to the same condition of affairs in this country.  To cause revolution in England is the first and most essential point in the programme of the International revolutionaries.  'Every revolution on the Continent,' said Marx, 'that does not spread to England is a storm in a teacup.'  In other words, England is the pivot of the world's civilization.  If England goes the whole world goes with her. Marx was right in his surmise; he was right, too, in believing that English working men will never make this revolution.  'Foreigners must make it for them.'  They are making it now. Shall we allow them to accomplish their work?"

H.A. Gwynne--"The Cause Of World Unrest" (1920)}



   {"People may desire to change their names for many reasons... The most common reason of all, however, is business interest.  This device is employed by aliens, and especially by Jews, who find that they can trade better if they are called Jones or Gordon, rather than Rosenbaum or Mosenstein.  In reality these people are practising a deception on the public. We have the authority of Shakespeare for saying 'What's in a name? That which we call a rose by any other name would smell as sweet.'  I beg leave to doubt that assertion, in the present connection.
  The following extract from the Fermanagh Herald of September 1943 illustrates my contention:-
  'A resolution from Longford County Council, received and approved by Cavan County Council, urged that the Government's attention should be immediately drawn to the fact that a large number of foreigners, mainly Jews, have succeeded in changing their names recently by deed poll to names of Irish origin. The Chairman referred to a recent prosecution for fraud of a Mr. I. O'Hara, formerly Cohen.'
}.


Admiral Sir Barry Domvile: 'From Admiral To Cabin Boy' (1943; published post-WWII).}


 {A blast from the past: Irish politics in the 1970s:
  "The leader of the 'Provisionals', now called Sean MacStiofain (English born John Stephenson) was personally recruited to the IRA cause by none other than Cathal Goulding, a self-proclaimed Marxist of long standing, who is the leader of the 'Official' IRA. Many experienced students of Communist subversion feel that the IRA 'split' is a clever tactical sham that would have delighted Lenin.
  The Peoples' Democracy Group is, or recently was, one of the most influential of the side-shows in Northern Ireland, and it provided the machinery whereby the revolutionist Bernadette Devlin was elected to the Westminster Parliament.  Latterly Bernadette has become increasingly involved with the Trotskyite British based international Socialists, whose leader is Ygael Gluckstein, an Israeli citizen who operates under the name of Tony Cliff."

  You couldn't make this stuff up! Or rather, you could , because it's just such a cliché.  
  Renault's line 'Round up the usual suspects!'in 'Casablanca' springs to mind.}