And so the 'grand deception' begins???

Started by GordZilla, October 14, 2010, 11:04:44 AM

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Wimpy

Consensus and circumstantial evidence points to an airliner contrail by a flight from Honolulu to Phoenix.  A similar contrail was video taped at the same time, same location, on the next day.
I will gladly pay you Tuesday for a Hamburger today.

Panoptimist

From page 55.
"434/10(18).

EASTERN NORTH PACIFIC.
CALIFORNIA.
MISSILES.

1. INTERMITTENT MISSILE FIRING OPERATIONS 0001Z TO 2359Z
DAILY MONDAY THRU SUNDAY IN THE NAVAL AIR WARFARE CENTER
SEA RANGE. THE MAJORITY OF MISSILE FIRINGS TAKE PLACE
1400Z TO 2359Z AND 0001Z TO 0200Z DAILY MONDAY THRU FRIDAY
IN AREA BOUND BY
...

3. VESSELS INBOUND AND OUTBOUND FOR SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA PORTS
WILL CREATE THE LEAST INTERFERENCE TO FIRING OPERATIONS
DURING THE SPECIFIC PERIODS, AS WELL AS ENHANCE THE VESSEL'S SAFETY WHEN PASSING THROUGH THE VICINITY OF THE SEA RANGE
IF THEY WILL TRANSIT VIA THE SANTA BARBARA CHANNEL AND WITHIN
NINE MILES OFFSHORE VICINITY OF POINT MUGU OR CROSS THE AREA
SOUTHWEST OF SAN NICOLAS ISLAND BETWEEN SUNSET AND SUNRISE.
WRH Webmaster's Commentary:

According to this official US Navy document the US Navy is indeed conducting live fire testing of missiles off the coast of California. This is a repeat of the situation with TWA 800 in which the US Navy at first denied knowing what missile it was that witnesses reported seeing only to have to admit to the ongoing tests of Aegis-CEC when the NOTAM surfaced days later.

Now, with this confirmation, I want to address this rumor being seeded all over the blogs about a Chinese nuclear submarine. This story tracks back to only one dubious source and the story is that a Chinese Jin class nuclear ballistic missile submarine launched the "Mystery Missile" as a show of force to the United States.

This rumor needs to be stopped right now.

First off, while the Jin is much quieter than its predecessor the Xia (the running joke here in Hawaii is that you can drop a hydrophone off Kauai and hear the Xia subs idling at their base in Jianggezhuang), the Jin is far from the silent machines that the Ohio class subs are. And like all nuclear boats, the Jin leaves a thermal trace on the surface of the water in its wake that is detectable by satellite, as is the surface disturbance created by its submerged passing. Indeed, the ability to detect and track submerged submarines b y their surface wakes using synthetic aperture radar of the ocean surface was discovered back with SeaSat, which is one reason why the SOSUS networks have been turned over to the cetologists to track whale migrations.

Second, the Jin would not need to approach the United States to make their point. The Julang 2 missile launched from the Jin has an 8000 KM range.

Third, and most importantly, why would China do such a stupid thing? They have the upper hand at the G20. They do not need to show us a missile; they can destroy the United States with the IOUs. Provoking a war with China plays to the US' advantage as it gives the US Government an excuse not to honor their debts.

Fourth, we know from the NOTAM that the US Navy was in the area, which makes the possibility of an undetected approach even more unbelievable. Plus there is the inevitable fact that had the source of the Missile been anyone other than the US Navy, the Navy would have given chase to find the launch platform. It's the old "dog did not bark" logic. The Navy did not act like the source of the missile was unknown to them.

Personally I think this "Chinese sub" story is being planted to give the US Government a scapegoat when they come back from the G20 with their tails between their legs.
The Orthodox Nationalist [11/18/10] - Berdayev and Dostoevsky; Modernism and Materialism; The critique of the bourgeois [Must Listen]
"[W]ithin himself / The danger lies, yet lies within his power]PL[/i] Book IX, ln. 349-356.

Whaler

I think RIvero has it right.

Why the bizarre behavior by the Pentagon and NORAD?

Talk about creating an unnecessary scandal. MSM would have ignored it if they came out day one and just made up a random lie like: "It was a satellite launch" or "routine testing"

Weird.

Whaler

Nothing happened this week! 1/2 Why are conspiracy theorists obsessed w/ bad predictions?
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Panoptimist

The whole "conspiracy theory" movement is co-opted by Zionist Jews.

I get all of that now.

It is for this reason that I believe we all need to take a closer look at Bill Cooper. He came out and said some things about the Zionists, but even he admitted that he was probably (unknowingly) a pawn in their game. I may be willing to buy the whole "life out there" concept, but (and I haven't read BAPH yet, though I'm looking at it as I speak) what the fuck does "deciphering" these top secret government documents have anything to do with anything? Nothing. It leads people to nowhere. It's brain control.

The problem we are facing is a REAL problem. It's not UFOs, it's not Vampire Aliens, it's not HAARP or any of that bullshit. It's quite a tangible problem, and it's been a problem for millenia. We've been warned, we've been helped, we've been shown the way. The truth has been propagandized, but some of us, who take all of this to its ultimate conclusion, recognize the ultimate truth, and unfortunately for those in question all signs point to there being a great problem indeed. The facts are in. The evidence continues to pile up. People continue to deny, cower, or simply refuse to think.

If any sort of regulation on speech is to be applied, it should be on these nonsense fucking claims of aliens and all of this paranormal activity bullshit. Simply put, it is Jewry/Satanism at its finest.
The Orthodox Nationalist [11/18/10] - Berdayev and Dostoevsky; Modernism and Materialism; The critique of the bourgeois [Must Listen]
"[W]ithin himself / The danger lies, yet lies within his power]PL[/i] Book IX, ln. 349-356.