Hey Monkey,Whites/Christians are enslaving elephants

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The topic is not true(would be hilarious though) but I thought I put emphasis on this being an anti Zionist forum, not anti non white or anti Muslim forum. I've yet to see blatant anti Christian or anti white threads in this forum, so I'm assuming the non Christians and non whites have been gracious so far with a few bigoted exceptions. Now I see not one but two threads on Islam?  This is my first post but I've been following this forum since September and pretty much know the personalities of most of the forum members

Well... I never thought I'd see Sharia Killings in the USA... and I know most Muslims abhor this... but here it is. I never heard about this years ago. And I mean.."Never":

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/200 ... e-US_N.htm


Say goodbye:



http://www.politicolnews.com/shari-law- ... h-america/

I think all three Abrahamic(I prefer to call them the Jewish religions, bc really that's what they are, Abraham was a perverted Jew) religions are utter BS and have disgusting violent passages...but then again what do you expect, it was all written and started by demented, perverted, psycopathic Jews. With that said I have a better opinion for Christianity and Islam than Judaism obviously. The Christian New Testament is less gruesome and I admire Jesus' peaceful advices of turning the other cheek and Islam's message of equality among Muslims no matter what race. I respect both Christianity and Islam more than Judaism for the fact both religions outlaw usury completely, something the Jews forbid only on their fellow Jews but allow on non-Jews.
 
What the West has a habit of doing is convoluting Islam with every single criminal action of people who happen to be Muslims. This is what some of the posters here are doing imo. Honor Killings has nothing to do with Islam. It is more of a culture thing than religious. Those scum who participated in the honor killing just happen to be Muslims. If we're going to associate non-Islamic actions like honor killings, clit circumcising, niqabss, suicide bombings with Muslims and Islam, then with this logic you better not have any problem when homo pedophile priests are associated with Christianity. But us civilized people understand that has nothing to do with Christianity and shouldn't convolute it with the actions of douchebag Christians like these:
[youtube:vok8a4ay]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lguPY03i42U[/youtube]vok8a4ay] I mean don't get me wrong, I admit I chuckled at first when I heard this Jew got punched but I am human and felt bad, he shouldn't have been ganged up on and harmed physically in any way(though I very much condone verbal ownage).

mchawe wrote:Finally the Jews know how to exploit such sentiments (thou shalt not mock Islam !) How do you know those plackards saying "Death to the Infidel" etc are not being weilded by crypto Jews ?



The evidence for such a claim is not going to be forthcoming, so I'll take this one at face value. They look like your standard run-of-the-mill Islamic extremists to me. The fact is not only do they hold signs talking about beheading people, they've been doing it for ages and continue to do it ... and much worse.

A videogame designer can make a real looking gruesome beheading, you think those Muslim beheadings the MSM loves to propagate couldn't be made by sophisticated CIA/Mossad goons?

Fake beheading Video
http://www.spike.com/video/ben-vanderfords-hoax/2686941
"American's Iraq 'Beheading' a Hoax"
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,128314,00.html


It seems these white people have been hangin with those Mooslims, bc here they are beheading non whites. I'd never thought I'd see white people beheading. I know white people and nazis abhor this, but here it is violence unprovoked...simply for being foreigners in their white country.
http://robert-lindsay.blogspot.com/2007 ... 9fd55f292c

[youtube:vok8a4ay]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLUxuq-E9yA[/youtube]vok8a4ay]
[youtube:vok8a4ay]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuOVgx3Zh6E[/youtube]vok8a4ay]
8:36 mark
But I'm sure you have no problem thinking this video is definitely fake bc the Jews and non white people are out to get all you :roll: . All Russians and or white people are not like this so why should people start worrying about Muslims?



Monkey I have respect for your great threads and videos, you've even defended Muslims and non whites in other posts so for that I'll give credit where credit is due. But when you say Muslims are not a race, you're not kidding anyone when you say the Muslims are going to take over white countries, you are clearly only referring to non whites. You say "white Christians" as if Christian is synonymous with white, you know there are 2 billion Christians, and the original Christians were Middle Eastern Semitic non whites right? (Unless you're like some of those cults who think the original Israelite, Christians, Jesus were white...kinda like the black Hebrew cult). I highly doubt you'd have a problem with an indigenous white English guy converting to Islam but continuing to live and look the same as he did before he converted emigrating to your country(which btw is not indigenous to white people).

And all of you who are talking about the lack of assimilation being the real problem that bothers you about non white immigrants and Muslims coming to you country is BS . This is not Stormfront or Vnnforum but at least with them they are honest about their racism and admittance of superiority over others and state the real reasons to keep immigrants out. In this forum the closet white supremacists/separatists or white Christians(WS/WC) tip toe thinking they're fooling people with euphemisms like "assimilation" "multiculturalism". Like you WS really would welcome dark skinned foreigners if they adopted your way of life  :lol: . Kind of contradictory. Isn't that one of the main reason we dislike the elite Jews, their willingness to strip people of their heritage, culture? So why do you insist immigrants completely abandon their culture and completely adopt yours? How is it when immigrants assimilating just enough to function in society problem free while also holding on to their cultural identity going to deprive you of your heritage? If people are minding their own business no one will lose any of their heritage. Mexicans wearing sombreros or Indians wearing saris, or Scotts wearing kilts will not take away your culture.

Look at mchawe, he's a white person who's been living in a Muslim, black country for years without having assimilated. He has not assimilated and wants to mind his own business live his life in peace.

Sharia Law may have been suitable for desert Arabs back then, but it is not suitable for me and mine.
I like a drink now and then. I don't want to be told by some fucker ,"You can't drink."
I don't want to bow down and face Mecca 5 times a day. If that is what turns you on, bully for you. That's your business, not mine.
But I don't want you or anyone else telling me how I should run my life. I believe in Free Will. Yours and mine.

On the days of 9/11 the Muslims went round with flags on their cars hanging out of their windows shouting/cheering cause they were so happy Usa got hit. Ì know they didn't have anything to do with 9/11.. But this shows their mentality.

You mean celebrating kind of like this?

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=htt ... x=68&ty=84
And I really hope you're not talking about that fake Palestinian celebration clip. If you're talking about Muslims in your area, then can you blame them? Imagine you're a Russian back in Soviet Russia and your family has been wiped out bc of these Jewish scum and lets say you know America was giving Soviet Union money that has helped in wiping out your family... wouldn't you cheer a little inside? Its wrong but lets be honest here.


Monkey, I know you're a good guy. Very intelligent and talented, but sometimes you just go ape shit...no pun intented. I remember that blow out you had with those anti American threads as well...hopefully this is just another phase. If you are curious about Islam, I suggest Loonwatch.com though don't mention 911, they don't like being associated with conspiracies involving anyone but Muslims doing 911.

Btw Monkey why do you use zionist sources for your anti Islam bs?

One of your sources Religionofpeace.com is associated with these:
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Pages/Links.htm
LOL all Zionist organizations.


And who did you get all those pictures from? MI5/MI5 clown Anjem Choudary and his clan?

You expect people to take your anti Muslim/Islam bs seriously?

You actually believe in that Islamization of Europe crap. Did you have a convo with Zionist Jew Pamela Geller of the "Stop the Islamization of America" organization?

Ironic you mentioned cognitive dissonance being the issue among Muslims yet that is what I see exhibited all the time among White supremacists/separatists(WS) white Christians(WC) including the ones that are in this forum. Pretty much everything you wrote Monkey screams of projection. Muslims not acknowledging their crimes, blaming it all on Jews, acting like victims. I've seen all that done by WS/WC countless times.
Most of your accusations of Muslim behavior is only your word and hearsay, so I'll list some my own observations and hearsay of WS/WC...again you're just projecting:

-Black slavery? "The Jews did it too!"

-White NATO killing brownies in the Middle East? "Yea but the Jews are the reason we have the wars!"

-Native American Genocide? "Columbus was a crypto Jew and besides them Amerindians were killing each other before we got there and we gave them civilized western civilization!" or the funniest one "Whites were native to the Americas, not the Amerindians!" LOL

-Nuclear bombing Japan? "USA was in Jewish control and the nukes were invented by Jews!"

-Islamophobia? "Forget that shit, the Jews are spreading anti white propaganda and are planning on "genociding" us by opening the borders to those brownies and through multiculturalism and race mixing!"
 :lol:

If anyone here made any anti Christian or anti white threads, you know all the white separatists in this forum would be hootin and hollering "crypto Jew infiltrator!" or "you've been brainwashed by the Jew propaganda to hate us whites!"

In this very forum I've seen WS/WC throwing hissy fits over the slightest anti Christian or anti white comments, whining about people saying a silly word "cracker" ...some guy even got banned for it to prevent these prima donnas from leaving this forum. viewtopic.php?p=41006

Its a only fuckin cookie for pete's sake, not that offensive with any negatively historical connotation. Yet the white people here continuously disrespect non whites and Muslims with condescending remarks without much protest from other non whites and Muslims(until the most recent threads).

WS are always whining about how they shouldn't be held accountable for the actions of their ancestors so Monkey why are you bring up atrocities from the past to defame Islam/Muslims? Should we still blame whitey for all the shit whites have been doing these past centuries? If no, then Monkey I suggest you stay consistent, either discuss only the current actions of what Muslims are doing and going through or only the past actions and statehood of Muslims. If you bring up the past, white crimes will also be addressed...like I don't know European Imperialism....or was that orchestrated by the Jews as well?


I've respected(still do) white people all these years for their lightheartedness, considered them to be the best sports when being racially mocked, not getting offended, having a great sense of humor and backbone unlike whiny overly sensitive Jews and black people(no offense to any black person here, just the ones who cry "racist" unnecessarily). But it seems this whiny victim mentality is emerging strong among white people as well. Oh who I am kidding, its only the white supremacists/separatists that have become whiny douches with a laughable victim complex that are ruining it for the rest of the white people. But you're right there's no Islamophobia, its just like the "antisemite" word and they're(Muslims) just crying victim for no reason when really the Jews are after white people.

Last I checked white countries currently are not being invaded, white people are not being massacred in their own lands, they are not constantly being negatively propagated against; however, Muslim majority nations Palestine, Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan(Iran , Syria, Yemen up next) have been and are currently being invaded, bombed, their resources being stolen, indirectly being forced to adopt western culture, living through curfews checkpoints basically hell. King David Hotel, Lavon Affair, 911, countless terrorist acts, and Revolution Muslim psyop threats have not been blamed on whites or Christians have they? They've all been blamed on Muslims. Zionist/Jew organizations and people like MEMRI, Clarion Fund, the SITE Institute, Geert Wilders, Honestreporting, Robert Spencer, Sam Harris, Bill Maher, Christopher Hitchens, Stop The Islamization of America, Pamela Geller(Jew who runs SIOA), David Horowitz, Firemma Nirenstein, MSM, Hollywood have been tirelessly making anti Arab/ anti Muslim/ anti Islam/anti Middle East movies/propaganda (Iranium, Obsessed, The Third Jihad, Fitna, Relentless: The Struggle for Peace in the Middle East, Inside the Koran, countless Hollywood movies just watch Reel Bad Arabs). So you'll have to excuse Muslims if they feel a tad threatened and targeted. (I think I might make a separate thread on this.)    

How many anti white/Christian/European crap have you seen from those same dirtbags? Not as much.

Zionist Jews David Horowitz, Pamela Geller and Firemma Nirenstein actually try to align themselves with whites/Christians. Horowitz wrote "Hating Whitey and other Progressive Causes". Jew supremacist Pamela Geller once talked about black supremacy and supported her pawn Rifqa Barry a Christian convert to demonize Muslims even further. Nirenstein is adamant about influencing the Christian is Italy including the Pope that Muslims are their true enemies. See they play both sides, anti white pro white anti Muslim pro Muslim anti black pro black...when they are the ones opening the borders to non whites and Muslims. Its simple, they play both sides bc they are brilliant in dividing and conquering by influencing opposing views from which they win either way.

Crypto Zionist Jew Robert Spencer has been busy fooling gullible Christians. He's been trying hard convincing Christians that Muslims and Islam are the real enemies. He's been "enlightening" them about the truth about the crusades and how Muslims were to blame with his pseudo-intellectual and debunked book "Politically Incorrect Guide to Islam" even though these idiotic Zionist Christians don't realize their stupid bible has just as many or more violent passages than the Quran:

http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/cruel ... quran.html

But in terms of ordering violence and bloodshed, any simplistic claim about the superiority of the Bible to the Koran would be wildly wrong. In fact, the Bible overflows with "texts of terror," to borrow a phrase coined by the American theologian Phyllis Trible. The Bible contains far more verses praising or urging bloodshed than does the Koran, and biblical violence is often far more extreme, and marked by more indiscriminate savagery. The Koran often urges believers to fight, yet it also commands that enemies be shown mercy when they surrender. Some frightful portions of the Bible, by contrast, go much further in ordering the total extermination of enemies, of whole families and races - of men, women, and children, and even their livestock, with no quarter granted.

http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/ideas ... _passages/

These foolish Zionist Christians always talk about Muslim polygamy and death penalties sanctioned on trivial things, but they forget polygamy is a ok in Christianity (that skank King Solomon had 700 wives jeesh) and homosexuality and apostasy is punishable by death.


As for the tired "spread by the sword" well Christianity is not innocent of that either. It was Pre-Middle Ages time of war, uncivilized hostile people worldwide, lots of things were spread by the sword, including butter. Again lets stay consistent, are we tackling the past or present?
Besides one Quran verse clearly says "2:256 There is no compulsion in religion, for the right way is clearly from the wrong way. Whoever therefore rejects the forces of evil and believes in God, he has taken hold of a support most unfailing, which shall never give way, for God is All Hearing and Knowing." I mean is it Christian missionaries or Muslim missionaries worldwide trying to convert people?

All three religions are misogynistic, and the Middle East no doubt unjustly oppresses women. What many don't know though is Muhammad's first wife was his employer and she was a warrior and he had debates with women. Present day Saudi Arabia and the whole can't leave house without males, not driving cars...this is not Islam, this is culture, oppressive regime backed by USA. Four of the most populated Muslim majority countries have been doing a bad job of oppressing women with  a record number of female presidents/leaders/politicians. Bangladesh is the only country with not only a female president but a female leading the opposition party. How many Western nations can say the same? The niqab is not Islam, Hijab is what is accepted and obliged in Islam. Was Jesus's mother Mary being oppressed when she wore the head scarf or when nuns are wearing habits or when Jewish women wear wigs on their shaved heads?    

It seems WS/WC are the most prone to falling in the Jewish divide and conquer tactic(black supremacists come in second). WS/WC have delusional paranoia about an incoming white genocide while Muslim brownies are literally being "genocided" by shabbos goy whites. Yet whites are concerned about multiculturalism and race mixing making white people extinct...oh the horror so much interracial sex! GASP! The Muslims in Iraq, Pakistan, Palestine, Afghanistan envy the way you guys will become extinct as opposed the bombs that are reducing their populations.

Listen I know Jews(Tim Wise, Noel Ignative) have a hatred for whites and Christians and I always defend both when either are being unjustly insulted and refute anti white anti Christian propaganda when I see it.But this fear of multiculturalism, incoming white genocide thing is funny. Let's start by stop using the euphemism "multiculturalism" for what you really mean "non whites coming to white lands"...should be called multiracial-ism instead. Culturally different white Germans won't mind if culturally different white Scotts emigrate to Germany. You really think the Jews ease up on immigration and support multiculturalism so that whites and non whites mix so eventually the white population becomes outnumbered/extinct with mixed people/immigrants?  :lol: . First off, majority of white people are not at all attracted to non whites, the ones that are usually just bang non whites and its nothing serious so you guys don't have to worry about dying via mixing(though I have to say watch out for those chubby white chicks with the black fetish, and those white dudes with yellow fever...you must stop them before they kill off all of ya!) The way I see why Jews support multiculturalism is to stir shit up among the different groups/religions...not for all of you to fuck each other and have  "mongrel" children. Unlike many on this forum I don't have the opposite thinking mentality of "well the Jews support this for non Jews but not for themselves in Israel so therefore I'm against it!". Jews support many things which are humane some which I agree with. They talk against racism, created a idealistic doctrine of Communism where all are equal, support multiculturalism among different races, sympathize with illegal immigrants, set up hate crime laws to protect minorities, support freedom of religion. But all these seemingly humane things that they push and support are not in good intent or genuine. They always do it for self-serving(freedom of religion means THEY can be allowed to enter and live in countries from which they were once banned, set up hate crime laws so THEY are protected by suppressing freedom of speech, they preach against racism so others won't be racist against THEM), destructive and deceptive reasons. Their goal with multiculturalism is destructive bc as I've said Jews are brilliant at playing both sides. If people of different backgrounds, races, religions live amongst each other this gives them the perfect chance to instigate fights amongst the goys while forgetting about the real enemy, the Jews. This might be blasphemous to some forum members but yea, I have absolutely no problem with multiculturalism, and no its not from Jewish propaganda its bc I happen to like and hang out with not only my own people but of other races as well. Eradicating the corrupt elites and their draconian laws should be a priority over eradicating multiculturalism. And please make sure  to have more babies that way you will not be outnumbered.

So while Asians, blacks, whites, Christians and Muslims want to fight each other, let's have a moment of what humanity should be with these Egyptian Muslim serving as human shields for Egyptian Christians.

"I know it might not be safe, yet it's either we live together, or we die together, we are all Egyptians."
http://onfaith.washingtonpost.com/onfai ... _mass.html

We are all Goys.(this includes the good Jews as well...I fear there aren't that many though)

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I wouldn't consider TiU being a Christian forum

[MonkeySeeMonkeyDo]

Quite a lengthy post for your first one. If you decided to show up to defend Muslims using logic and reason then fine. But if you've come to make excuses for Muslim crimes and criminals then you're just like all the others. As you can see in my other thread, a Muslim came in and immediately tried to base an argument for the "innocence" of islam and the "wickedness" of the West on total ignorance of history. viewtopic.php?f=4&t=13854&start=0#p53961 He didn't even know his own history. He came in saying Islamists have never once attacked the west when they absolutely, positively have done so MANY times, almost immediately after the founding of the faith. viewtopic.php?f=4&t=13854&start=0#p53984

The topic is not true(would be hilarious though) but I thought I put emphasis on this being an anti Zionist forum, not anti non white or anti Muslim forum.

It is an anti-Zionist forum. What of it ? There are thousands of threads on Jews, Judaism, Zionism and the Jewish criminal network. Does that mean that no inquiry can be made of other groups who seem to be carrying out an agenda of the first group ?

I've yet to see blatant anti Christian or anti white threads in this forum, so I'm assuming the non Christians and non whites have been gracious so far with a few bigoted exceptions.

Maybe not blatant but it's there, and it's usually coming from non-white Muslims.
 

What the West has a habit of doing is convoluting Islam with every single criminal action of people who happen to be Muslims. This is what some of the posters here are doing imo. Honor Killings has nothing to do with Islam. It is more of a culture thing than religious. Those scum who participated in the honor killing just happen to be Muslims. If we're going to associate non-Islamic actions like honor killings, clit circumcising, niqabss, suicide bombings with Muslims and Islam,

Those things can be associated with Islam. Suicide bombings are championed by Muslims because in their religion it is taught that a martyrdom in the name of Allah leads to instant paradise. They call it Jihad. Since they believe this they have no fear of death and suicide bombings have become a staple of their guerilla warfare, and, in some instances, terrorist strategy. Of course, Mossad and other intel agencies have taken full advantage of this and can pretty much make anything look like a suicide bombing. That doesn't negate the fact that primarily Muslims use the suicide bombing method, and rely on their faith to bring them to perform such an act.

[youtube:1hjgyv6f]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lguPY03i42U[/youtube]1hjgyv6f] I mean don't get me wrong, I admit I chuckled at first when I heard this Jew got punched but I am human and felt bad, he shouldn't have been ganged up on and harmed physically in any way(though I very much condone verbal ownage).

 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

A videogame designer can make a real looking gruesome beheading, you think those Muslim beheadings the MSM loves to propagate couldn't be made by sophisticated CIA/Mossad goons?

Fake beheading Video
http://www.spike.com/video/ben-vanderfords-hoax/2686941
"American's Iraq 'Beheading' a Hoax"
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,128314,00.html

Muslims are still using barbaric methods of killing virtually innocent people. Their religion hasn't changed much since its inception. Sharia Law makes menial offences like theft, and non-offences like adultery, punishable by whip lashing, limb amputation or death. Whether some beheadings are faked by Mossad is besides the point (and is another topic for another time). Islamic middle eastern cultures are basically still in the stone age in this regard.

Her crime? having an affair

It seems these white people have been hangin with those Mooslims, bc here they are beheading non whites. I'd never thought I'd see white people beheading. I know white people and nazis abhor this, but here it is violence unprovoked...simply for being foreigners in their white country.
http://robert-lindsay.blogspot.com/2007 ... 9fd55f292c

[youtube:1hjgyv6f]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLUxuq-E9yA[/youtube]1hjgyv6f]
[youtube:1hjgyv6f]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuOVgx3Zh6E[/youtube]1hjgyv6f]
8:36 mark
But I'm sure you have no problem thinking this video is definitely fake bc the Jews and non white people are out to get all you :roll: . All Russians and or white people are not like this so why should people start worrying about Muslims?

The thing is you won't see me being an apologist or making excuses for white criminals if I believe they are guilty. Muslims on the other hand just can't bring themselves to denounce other muslims or crimes perpetrated by muslims. Anytime a Muslim is implicated in a horrendous crime, they say it's not true, a "false-flag" by those "evil white westerners" to demonize Islam, and so on. When the evidence of Muslim guilt is abundant they are SILENT.

Beheadings is a moot point. Most beheadings today are done by muslims and mexicans. http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2010/04/01/9 ... re-of.html

Monkey I have respect for your great threads and videos, you've even defended Muslims and non whites in other posts so for that I'll give credit where credit is due.

I use to defend muslims way too much looking back on it now. It's a trap most anti-judaics unwittingly fall into. When I see Muslims defending or making excuses for Muslim criminals and blaming everything on "the white man", "the west", etc, they lose my respect. That's basically what I've been seeing from Muslims for quite some time.

But when you say Muslims are not a race, you're not kidding anyone when you say the Muslims are going to take over white countries, you are clearly only referring to non whites.

most Muslims are non-whites. A majority of muslims are comprised of the arabic semitic races, asian races and africans, so Muslim immigration is usually synonymous with non-white immigration, correct. Would you support massive White Euro Christian immigration into all non-white Muslim countries, and not only would those EuroChristians not assimilate or adapt to Muslim culture, but demand special treatment from the Muslim government to accomadate their way of life? I highly doubt you would support that. Only when it's happeneing to White countries do people go out of their way to support or justify this agenda.

You say "white Christians" as if Christian is synonymous with white, you know there are 2 billion Christians, and the original Christians were Middle Eastern Semitic non whites right? (Unless you're like some of those cults who think the original Israelite, Christians, Jesus were white...kinda like the black Hebrew cult).

Christianity has been generally championed by the Caucasoid races of the earth and a majority of Europeans are Christians. So that's why I say "White Christians". I've also said 'Black Christians' in the appropriate context.

I highly doubt you'd have a problem with an indigenous white English guy converting to Islam but continuing to live and look the same as he did before he converted emigrating to your country(which btw is not indigenous to white people).

There are differing islamic cultures. The ones rooted in the middle-east and africa are more "stone-age" then say a white person living in Britain simply converting to Islam. You won't find many "white muslims" waging "jihad" or holding signs saying "behead those who insult islam". The non-white Islamic cultures generally have a hatred of non-muslim White Westerners, based on political and religious prejudices, so they come to Europe and North America with a chip on their shoulder. Many of them come just to stir up trouble.

And all of you who are talking about the lack of assimilation being the real problem that bothers you about non white immigrants and Muslims coming to you country is BS .

How so? If the same were happening to Muslim countires, with White Christians being the mass non-assimilating and aggressive/disruptive immigrants, Muslims would be here telling us how horrible and wrong this is.

This is not Stormfront or Vnnforum but at least with them they are honest about their racism and admittance of superiority over others and state the real reasons to keep immigrants out. In this forum the closet white supremacists/separatists or white Christians(WS/WC) tip toe thinking they're fooling people with euphemisms like "assimilation" "multiculturalism".

When whites want to defend their heritage we are called "racists", "white supremacists" and "bigots". When non-whites wish to defend their heritage they are glorified as "race advocates". The double standards on race displayed by Jews and their Non-White lapdogs is blatant, in-your-face, "suck on it whitey" type of arrogance. Non-whites are the one looking to fool people with this infantile rhetoric.

Like you WS really would welcome dark skinned foreigners if they adopted your way of life  :lol: . Kind of contradictory. Isn't that one of the main reason we dislike the elite Jews, their willingness to strip people of their heritage, culture?

Do you think white-skinned foreigners would be "tolerated" in a black, latino or semitic country if they didn't assimilate and act just like the people living there? Muslims treat Christians badly in the middle-east. The coptic christians in Egypt are treated like dirt. The Christians in Sudan are being slaughtered by the thousands by Arab Muslims of the north. Muslims and non-white races are WAY less tolerant of other cultures and peoples than Whites are. It's not even close!

So why do you insist immigrants completely abandon their culture and completely adopt yours?

Why do you insist Whites make accomadations to Non-White peoples and cultures when they come to our countries? Why must Whites abandon their culture to adapt to an influx of unruly immigrants looking for free healthcare and other social services and perks?

How is it when immigrants assimilating just enough to function in society problem free while also holding on to their cultural identity going to deprive you of your heritage? If people are minding their own business no one will lose any of their heritage. Mexicans wearing sombreros or Indians wearing saris, or Scotts wearing kilts will not take away your culture.

The demographic statistics of Europe show that in a few short decades Muslim immigrants (and those they have influenced to convert) could emerge as a majority in these countires. When they do they will declare it an Islamic state and civil war will ensue. This isn't a dire prediction, it is based on solid facts and data.

On the days of 9/11 the Muslims went round with flags on their cars hanging out of their windows shouting/cheering cause they were so happy Usa got hit. Ì know they didn't have anything to do with 9/11.. But this shows their mentality.

You mean celebrating kind of like this?

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=htt ... x=68&ty=84

Muslims, who immigrated to Europe and are living on the hospitality of the Europeans, jumping for joy as 3000 people (mostly whites) are incinerated in the twin towers VS. a few American soldiers smiling in front of an Iraqi with a cut on his leg is not exactly a good comparison. Granted many White soldiers from the west are heartless, insepid cowards and are specifically TRAINED to be that way. Muslim civilians celebrating a massacre was not programmed into them by generals, colonels and army officers who have produced an army of soulless robots to carry out the international wet-work of bankers and war profiteers. The fact is Islamists believe non-muslims are "infidels", "kaffirs" thus are expendable cattle, just as Talmudists believe non-Jews ('goyim') are cattle.

Btw Monkey why do you use zionist sources for your anti Islam bs?

One of your sources Religionofpeace.com is associated with these:
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Pages/Links.htm
LOL all Zionist organizations.

I care not what the overall purpose of that website is. A Muslim poster claimed that Islam is 'anti-slavery' and that the koran rewards those who free slaves. That page points out the specific verses in the Koran and hadith which prove the exact opposite of what this Muslim was claiming. The sources and footnotes for that page are abundant, it's not just some Zionist rant. Muslims get in the habit of saying "look a zionist site is saying it so it can't be true." Granted Zionists do make things up about Muslims, but that page appears to be correct about Islam's pro-slavery stance. Debunk it if it's not true.

You expect people to take your anti Muslim/Islam bs seriously?

Ppl can judge for themselves whether what I'm saying about Muslims is correct or not.

You actually believe in that Islamization of Europe crap. Did you have a convo with Zionist Jew Pamela Geller of the "Stop the Islamization of America" organization?

I've refrained from posting anything from pamela gellar or other obvious jewish neo zio-cons. Gellar and the Islamists she denounces are equally wacked out. They can both GTFO of the west and have at it in the deserts of negev for all I care.

Ironic you mentioned cognitive dissonance being the issue among Muslims yet that is what I see exhibited all the time among White supremacists/separatists(WS) white Christians(WC) including the ones that are in this forum. Pretty much everything you wrote Monkey screams of projection. Muslims not acknowledging their crimes, blaming it all on Jews, acting like victims. I've seen all that done by WS/WC countless times.

Granted every group has its congnitive dissonance sufferers. Muslims and Jews especially.

Most of your accusations of Muslim behavior is only your word and hearsay,

Like what?

so I'll list some my own observations and hearsay of WS/WC...again you're just projecting:

-Black slavery? "The Jews did it too!"

And what about black on black slavery? Forgot to mention that huh? Africans themselves were instrumental in the trans atlantic slave trade. African middle-men captured their own people and sold them off to the Jews and their Gentile lapdogs.

[youtube:1hjgyv6f]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VyLHf-Pqcw0[/youtube]1hjgyv6f]

Africans have been enslaving each other for centuries and CONTINUE to do so in Africa today. Arab Muslims ran an equivalent slave trade as the one spearheaded by the Jews, and CONTINUE to run it. http://www.africanholocaust.net/news_ah ... etrade.htm

White Gentiles were the first to ABOLISH slavery. Africans, Jews and Arab Muslims continue to practice slavery and sex slavery. Israel has one of the biggest sex slave trades in the world, and the vicitms are White European Gentile girls. Non-whites can't ever bring themselves to feel empathy for Whites though. "Victimization" has been allocated to the non-white races of the world. These callous double standards from the non-white peoples need to be exposed for what they are.

-White NATO killing brownies in the Middle East? "Yea but the Jews are the reason we have the wars!"

Granted Whites have done wet-work for the Jews, there's no question about it. So have non-whites. Ottoman Turk Muslims took out 1.5 million Armenians and 350,000 Greeks at the beginning of the last century. Sure the "Donmeh" in high positions giving the orders were crypto-Judaics, but Muslims did the killing. According to Muslims they bare no responsibilty for this crime, but Whites are responsible when they are used for similar purposes. Sunni Muslims and Shia Muslims are currently killing each other in Iraq in a vicious civil war. Iraq and Iran fought an 8 year long war, slaughtered millions, used chemical weapons. Turks and Iraqis have been killing Kurds in hordes since time immemorial. Muslims NEVER mention any of these things, they'll only ever speak out against "the wars" and "israel" because non-Muslims are the perpetrators in these instances.

-Native American Genocide? "Columbus was a crypto Jew and besides them Amerindians were killing each other before we got there and we gave them civilized western civilization!" or the funniest one "Whites were native to the Americas, not the Amerindians!" LOL

I've gone back and forth on this issue. technically in order for something to qualify as a "genocide" there has to be deliberate intent to wipe out a racial/religious/ethnic/cultural group, either by physical annaihilation or cultural genocide (forcing them to adapt your own culture). A case could be made for some groups of Europeans (many different ones came, British, French, Spanish, Dutch, etc) attempting cultural genocide on the so-called "native" peoples of the Americas, not physical genocide. "mexicans" as they are called today, and other central/south american peoples are mostly descendants of the Incas, Mayans and Aztecs. They were not wiped out. Amerindians living in what is now US territory and Canadian terriotry still exist. they were not wiped out.

The fact is the "native americans" were not native to this land. They came from Asia (Siberia). I'm not using that as an excuse for what crimes were committing against them, but that's just a fact. Vast portions of the continent was uninhabited and did not belong to anyone, so nobody can claim that Europeans stole land that didn't belong to anyone in the first place. If you want to inflate the crimes of Europeans than let's look at how many times Muslims, Arabs, Mongols and other Asians have done the very same thing TO EUROPEANS nonetheless.

Mongols invaded Europe 12th century anno domini, LONG before Europeans came to North America


Muslims of various races (Arabs, Turks, etc) invaded Europe and Christian held middle-eastern (Byzantine) territory almost as soon as the Islamic faith was established.


Mongols committed tremendous atrocities and attempted to commit genocide against Europeans, Muslims attempted the same thing. Non-whites have committed tremendous atrocities all over the place that is at least equivalent or worse to anything Whites have done. There is no "moral high ground" in this regard.

-Nuclear bombing Japan? "USA was in Jewish control and the nukes were invented by Jews!"

Well, it's true Jews did invent nukes, so it wouldn't have happened without them. A few presumably white pilots and army generals were involved in that crime (a handful of people yet all whites are supposed to take responsibilty for it?). They could have gotten a black or other non-white to drop a nuke. The Japanese aren't innocent either, they killed millions of Chinese during the war and are responsible for some gruesome mass rapes and slaughters such as this one http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanking_Massacre In other words NOBODY is innocent. But non-whites only ever mention the crimes committed by Whites. That's racism.

-Islamophobia? "Forget that shit, the Jews are spreading anti white propaganda and are planning on "genociding" us by opening the borders to those brownies and through multiculturalism and race mixing!"
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They're doing both. Open borders/mass immigration to Europe/North America, "islamophobia" in the jews news. There's also a systematic propping up of non-white minorities in the jews media. Ever heard of affirmative action? Black on white crime is not reported on national media. White on Non-White crime is screamed from the rooftops. Muslims want people of European descent to forget what's happening to us and be primarily concerned with combatting stereotypes about muslims. Sorry, it doesn't work that way. Gotta look out for my own behind when it comes down to it. Muslims certainly aren't going to do it for me.

In this very forum I've seen WS/WC throwing hissy fits over the slightest anti Christian or anti white comments, whining about people saying a silly word "cracker" ...some guy even got banned for it to prevent these prima donnas from leaving this forum. http://theinfounderground.com/forum/vie ... hp?p=41006 Its a only fuckin cookie for pete's sake, not that offensive with any negatively historical connotation. Yet the white people here continuously disrespect non whites and Muslims with condescending remarks without much protest from other non whites and Muslims(until the most recent threads).

Cracker is a racial slur against whites. It's equivalent to nigger and spic. Of course your sensitivites lie with the racial epithets directed at non-whites and could care less about the ones directed at whites. The double standard is clear. Would you be alright if we started using such language as nigger, spic, sand nigger, sand critter, chink, to refer to non-europeans? highly doubt it, and you wouldn't find it "silly" you'd find it "offensive", right?

WS are always whining about how they shouldn't be held accountable for the actions of their ancestors so Monkey why are you bring up atrocities from the past to defame Islam/Muslims? Should we still blame whitey for all the shit whites have been doing these past centuries? If no, then Monkey I suggest you stay consistent, either discuss only the current actions of what Muslims are doing and going through or only the past actions and statehood of Muslims. If you bring up the past, white crimes will also be addressed...like I don't know European Imperialism....or was that orchestrated by the Jews as well?

The point in my brining up historical Muslim atrocities is because several Muslims on this forum tried to pass off the egregious falsehood that Muslims have never once attacked the West, but the "evil white christian imperialists" have been persecuting Muslims and other peoples. This callous, racist falsehood was swiftly shot down and several Muslims cry foul, as I knew they would. Not only did they not concede the point of Muslim atrocities against Western White Christians historically, but they instead started cursing and cussing at me. Typical.

I've respected(still do) white people all these years for their lightheartedness, considered them to be the best sports when being racially mocked, not getting offended, having a great sense of humor and backbone unlike whiny overly sensitive Jews and black people(no offense to any black person here, just the ones who cry "racist" unnecessarily). But it seems this whiny victim mentality is emerging strong among white people as well. Oh who I am kidding, its only the white supremacists/separatists that have become whiny douches with a laughable victim complex that are ruining it for the rest of the white people. But you're right there's no Islamophobia, its just like the "antisemite" word and they're(Muslims) just crying victim for no reason when really the Jews are after white people.

You have a point about the victim mentality. I'm no fan of it and all groups have tried to use victimhood to gain an upper hand on the others. White supremacists do cry and moan about things, and so do black, hispanic, arab, jewish and muslim supremacists. They all do that shit. However Jews are notorious for doing that.

Last I checked white countries currently are not being invaded, white people are not being massacred in their own lands, they are not constantly being negatively propagated against; however, Muslim majority nations Palestine, Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan(Iran , Syria, Yemen up next) have been and are currently being invaded, bombed, their resources being stolen, indirectly being forced to adopt western culture, living through curfews checkpoints basically hell. King David Hotel, Lavon Affair, 911, countless terrorist acts, and Revolution Muslim psyop threats have not been blamed on whites or Christians have they? They've all been blamed on Muslims. Zionist/Jew organizations and people like MEMRI, Clarion Fund, the SITE Institute, Geert Wilders, Honestreporting, Robert Spencer, Sam Harris, Bill Maher, Christopher Hitchens, Stop The Islamization of America, Pamela Geller(Jew who runs SIOA), David Horowitz, Firemma Nirenstein, MSM, Hollywood have been tirelessly making anti Arab/ anti Muslim/ anti Islam/anti Middle East movies/propaganda (Iranium, Obsessed, The Third Jihad, Fitna, Relentless: The Struggle for Peace in the Middle East, Inside the Koran, countless Hollywood movies just watch Reel Bad Arabs). So you'll have to excuse Muslims if they feel a tad threatened and targeted. (I think I might make a separate thread on this.)

Correct, but this is simply VERY recent history and a majority of these attacks upon Muslims (physical and propaganda-wise) would not be happeneing if it were not for Jewish domination of the West, and you KNOW that. If we go back 1000-1400 years Muslims were doing all these things to others (albeit not the "propaganda" Hollywood movies stuff), and were murdering plenty more non-muslims, than Muslims are being killed today. Some historians say that the Islamic conquest of India was one for the bloodiest in history, with some estimated 80 million Indians and others disappearing from the asian continent over a 500 year period. This was done without guns, tanks, fighter jets, nukes, appache helicopters, grenades, or any of the modern death technology, but with SWORDS (and probably with the help fo disease and famine). That is crazy.

Zionist Jews David Horowitz, Pamela Geller and Firemma Nirenstein actually try to align themselves with whites/Christians. Horowitz wrote "Hating Whitey and other Progressive Causes". Jew supremacist Pamela Geller once talked about black supremacy and supported her pawn Rifqa Barry a Christian convert to demonize Muslims even further. Nirenstein is adamant about influencing the Christian is Italy including the Pope that Muslims are their true enemies. See they play both sides, anti white pro white anti Muslim pro Muslim anti black pro black...when they are the ones opening the borders to non whites and Muslims. Its simple, they play both sides bc they are brilliant in dividing and conquering by influencing opposing views from which they win either way.

You're basically correct about this. Jews adapt to the situation. They curry favor with useful idiots in all groups. Their only concern is "what is best for the Jews". Granted, they have perpetrated racism towards all races, including against Whites. But Jews have been living on the backs and goodwill of Europeans for centuries. Jews go where the getting is good. They have a tremendous malice towards their host otherwise they couldn't live with themselves doing the things that they do to us.

Crypto Zionist Jew Robert Spencer has been busy fooling gullible Christians. He's been trying hard convincing Christians that Muslims and Islam are the real enemies. He's been "enlightening" them about the truth about the crusades and how Muslims were to blame with his pseudo-intellectual and debunked book "Politically Incorrect Guide to Islam" even though these idiotic Zionist Christians don't realize their stupid bible has just as many or more violent passages than the Quran:

There are plenty of Christian useful idiots, nobody is denying that. Historically Jews have had more emnity for Christians than Muslims. The Muslims and Iberian Jews even collaborated on the conquest of Christian Spain in 711 anno domini. In fact Jews lived alongside muslims in many countries, while Christians have always kept Jews in their ghettos and kept a close eye on their activities for centuries. Jews hate Jesus with a passion. Of course, since the birth of the modern state of Israel Muslims have been the prime targets of their attacks and demonization, but that's a recent phenomena.

Firstly I'm agnostic myself, use to be of the Catholic faith. As far as the bible is concerned, Christians have a new testament that has severely toned down the rhetoric. Muslims never changed their Koran or Hadith and Jews still follow the Old Testament and Babylonian Talmud. Christians are not perpetrating suicide bombings on innocents and using their religion as the casus belli to justify it. I know now you're gonna say "well the US military is mainly christian and their causing carnage, etc" .. The point is these so-called Christians in the military are following orders from their superiors. "religion" doesn't enter into their thinking process when they are about to blow up an innocent Iraq family's home. they are indeed vile criminals but they aren't religious fanatics doing horrible things cuz their god commanded them to do it and promised them paradise. Religion comes into play when Muslims do violence. They go to Europe and North America with the ideology of "Jihad" and commit violent acts. This gets explioted by the Judaics and their lapdogs who can now set anything up to look like a Muslim jihad-job and get more wars going in the mid-east for the Jews. This is one of the reasons the zionists are bringing muslims to the West in hordes.

These foolish Zionist Christians always talk about Muslim polygamy and death penalties sanctioned on trivial things, but they forget polygamy is a ok in Christianity (that skank King Solomon had 700 wives jeesh) and homosexuality and apostasy is punishable by death.

You won't ever see me defending Zionist Christians. :lol:  They're scum.

As for the tired "spread by the sword" well Christianity is not innocent of that either. It was Pre-Middle Ages time of war, uncivilized hostile people worldwide, lots of things were spread by the sword, including butter. Again lets stay consistent, are we tackling the past or present?
Besides one Quran verse clearly says "2:256 There is no compulsion in religion, for the right way is clearly from the wrong way. Whoever therefore rejects the forces of evil and believes in God, he has taken hold of a support most unfailing, which shall never give way, for God is All Hearing and Knowing." I mean is it Christian missionaries or Muslim missionaries worldwide trying to convert people?

Granted Christianity was pretty violent in its heyday. I've never claimed Christians were innocent, they aren't. It was MUSLIMS who came here and tried to say that Islam is completely innocent, a pure victim of Judeo-Christian aggression. I refute it and they cry foul. It's that simple.

All three religions are misogynistic, and the Middle East no doubt unjustly oppresses women. What many don't know though is Muhammad's first wife was his employer and she was a warrior and he had debates with women. Present day Saudi Arabia and the whole can't leave house without males, not driving cars...this is not Islam, this is culture, oppressive regime backed by USA. Four of the most populated Muslim majority countries have been doing a bad job of oppressing women with  a record number of female presidents/leaders/politicians. Bangladesh is the only country with not only a female president but a female leading the opposition party. How many Western nations can say the same? The niqab is not Islam, Hijab is what is accepted and obliged in Islam. Was Jesus's mother Mary being oppressed when she wore the head scarf or when nuns are wearing habits or when Jewish women wear wigs on their shaved heads?    

If these peope are going to come to the West and wear full-body ninja outfits, it's going to make a lot of people uncomfortable in their own homelands.


If they feel so strongly about being Muslims, and want to live the lifestyles of ultra-devout Islamists with all the bells and whistles that come with Islamic culture, then why do they come to the West when there are FORTY SEVEN majority muslim countries on earth where they would be a heck of a lot more comfortable then in Europe? Zionists are BRINGING THEM HERE. They come for the social services and other perks afforded to them by our ZOG gov'ts.

It seems WS/WC are the most prone to falling in the Jewish divide and conquer tactic(black supremacists come in second). WS/WC have delusional paranoia about an incoming white genocide while Muslim brownies are literally being "genocided" by shabbos goy whites.

Granted, Muslim brownies are being killed in great numbers, but genocide is not the intent, so far as I know. Is the aim of these wars to completely wipe out the Iraq and Afghan people? Don't think so. The aim is to benefit Israel and the bank accounts of the Jewish financial elite. You could maybe make a case for genocide in Palestine and in Sudan/Darfur. Jews and Muslims being the culprits in those two instances. If the immigration policies of Europe and extremely low birth rates among Europeans continue on the path it is currently is, indigenous Europeans will cease to exist soon enough. Maybe not in this century, but the process could be drastically sped up if civil wars with muslims ensue, disease, starvation , famines, and so on. people use the term "genocide" way too loosely, they don't even know what it means.

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Monkey, I know you're a good guy. Very intelligent and talented, but sometimes you just go ape shit...no pun intented. I remember that blow out you had with those anti American threads as well...hopefully this is just another phase.

 :wtf: I haven't gone ape shit at all. In fact I've stayed quite calm amidst Muslims wishing death and disfigurement upon me

talk about going apeshit  :lol:  :lol:
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MSMD, I got you. There was another C**T who posted very similar anti-Islamic posts like yours using a very similar language, I thought maybe coincidence but you are using the same images as him.... Hmmm. And on a post which has nothing to do with Islam you are mocking Islam again. You are trouble, and want to start a conflict. You are a despicable person without any scruples. It is clear what you are. Because of your unprovoked mockery I pray you die from a painful disfiguring face cancer, that way your face will resemble your wicked heart. GO TO HELL!

[Whaler]

What wrote:How is it when immigrants assimilating just enough to function in society problem free while also holding on to their cultural identity going to deprive you of your heritage? If people are minding their own business no one will lose any of their heritage. Mexicans wearing sombreros or Indians wearing saris, or Scotts wearing kilts will not take away your culture.

Which does happen in a healthy way. Go to a major North American city and you will see Chinatown, Little Italy, Greektowns etc. The people in these neighborhoods are proud of their heritage and still celebrate it...I have no problem with that. Similar to my mom making corn beef and cabbage on St Patrick's day. It's a healthy way to remember and celebrate your families origins. It's different than lighting American flags on fire and screaming about reconquest...but that's not really the issue for me. Illegal immigration is killing the working class in this country. If you haven't noticed a concerted effort by Jewish power to destroy the working class in western cultures then you haven't been paying attention and are willfully ignorant.

Jewish Involvement in Shaping American Immigration Policy, 1881-1965: A Historical Review
http://thewhaler.wordpress.com/2010/05/ ... al-review/

Multiculturalism is defo a 100% Jewish agenda. The evidence is overwhelming for this but yet you will call me a white nationalist or racist for opposing this sinister agenda. Sorry, not really a White Nationalist but I do have an interest in fighting any Jewish agenda against my country/people. Opposing illegal immigration is a very mainstream middle class stance...Check out some polling data and snap out of your fantasy world. Maybe you would stop being so smug and have some sympathy for white working class people instead of dismissing their concerns as "racist".

POLLS AND SURVEYS

Seventy-eight percent (78%) of likely voters were opposed to legalizing the status of the estimated 12 million illegal immigrants in the U.S. with only 19% supporting it. 88% of African-Americans were opposed to legalization. Pulse Opinion Research, LLC, September, 2009

71% of Americans want to see the bosses who hire illegal immigrants arrested while 64 percent support police conducting surprise raids on businesses suspected of hiring illegal immigrants (The Raids Obama has stopped) Rasmussen Reports poll, October, 2009.

80 percent of U.S. voters oppose proposals for government-backed health-care plans for illegal immigrants Rasmussen Reports poll, June, 2009.

78 percent of Americans believe that high immigration numbers have had a negative impact on the cost and quality of the nation's health care system and 78% of likely voters were opposed to legalizing the status of the estimated 12 million illegal immigrants in the U.S. American Council for Immigration Reform, September, 2009

73% of Americans called for a drop in the number of illegal immigrants CNN/Opinion Research Corporation poll, October, 2009.

58% of Arizona voters say the policies and activities of Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio have had a positive impact on the state's image, [May 2009, Rasmussen Reports]

74% of Americans think the government is not doing enough to keep illegal immigrants from coming into this country, [Washington Post-ABC News poll, April 2009]

66% of likely voters nationwide say it is Very Important for the government to improve its enforcement of the borders and reduce illegal immigration, [April 2009, Rasmussen Reports]

73% of U.S. voters believe that a police officer should automatically check to see if someone is in this country legally when the officer pulls that person over for a traffic violation, [March 2009, Rasmussen Reports]

67% of voters also say that if law enforcement officers know of places where immigrants gather to find work, they should sometimes conduct surprise raids to identify and deport illegal immigrants,[March 2009, Rasmussen Reports]

68% of Arizona voters have a favorable view of Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio, [March 2009, Rasmussen Reports]

68% of U.S. voters favor strict government sanctions on employers who hire illegal immigrants, [March 2009, Rasmussen Reports]

62% of New Jersey Residents oppose offering illegal immigrants some type of driver's licenses. Just 33% favor this proposal, [March 2009, Monmouth University/Gannett New Jersey Poll]

Only 20% of New Jersey residents favor extending in-state college tuition rates to undocumented immigrants living in the state compared to 37% who say illegal immigrants should pay higher out-of-state rates. 39% say that illegal immigrants should not even be allowed to attend New Jersey's public colleges and universities at all, [March 2009, Monmouth University/Gannett New Jersey Poll]

78% of registered Utah voters want to see SB81 implemented. The bill would, among other provisions, require all companies that contract with the state to check the immigration status of their employees and allow local police to enforce immigration law, [January 2009, The Salt Lake Tribune]

74% of U.S. voters continue to believe the federal government is not doing enough to secure the country's borders, [December 2008, Rasmussen Reports]

63% of voters say gaining control of the border is more important than legalizing the status of undocumented workers in the country, [December 2008, Rasmussen Reports]

Only 32% of Obama voters considered his support for amnesty as a factor in their decisions to vote for him. 67% said it was either not a factor at all, or they voted for Obama in spite of his stance on amnesty, [November 2008, Zogby Interactive Survey of Likely Voters]

60% of voters said reducing illegal immigration and cracking down on employers who hire them is important to them, while only 21% supported "legalizing or creating a pathway to citizenship" for illegal aliens, [November 2008, Zogby Interactive Survey of Likely Voters]

Transatlantic Trends: when asked about what governments should do to address illegal immigration, 83% of respondents supported stronger border controls, 74% supported cracking down on employers, and 68% supported deportation, [November 2008, TNS Opinion]

71.5% of likely voters said they agree (including 47.8% who strongly agree) that local law enforcement officers should enforce federal immigration laws, including 51.5% of Hispanics and 56.2% of self-described "liberals." [October 2008, Judicial Watch/Zogby International]

57.1% of likely voters said more law enforcement is needed to address the issue of illegal immigration while only 7.1% said they believe less law enforcement should be used. 34.7% of Hispanics support more law enforcement while 15.5% said less, [October 2008, Judicial Watch/ Zogby International]

69% of voters say controlling the border is more important than legalizing the status of undocumented workers, while just 21% think legalization is more important, [August 2008, Rasmussen Reports]

Ohio voters prefer strict enforcement over integration of illegal immigrants 71 - 20 % and 22% say they would vote against a candidate who disagrees with them only on the immigration issue, [December 2007, Quinnipiac University poll]

77% of American voters say companies should be allowed to require employees to speak English while on the job, [November 2007, Rasmussen Reports]

77% of American adults are opposed to making drivers licenses available to people who are in the country illegally, [November 2007, Rasmussen Reports]

Only 22% of voters support the Dream Act proposal introduced by Senator Dick Durbin (D-IL) and 59% of all voters oppose the Dream Act concept, [October 2007, Rasmussen Reports]

68% of North Carolinians disagree (including 41.6% who strongly disagree) with proposals that would allow undocumented immigrants to stay in this country for several years as long as they have a job, [September 2007, Elon University Poll]

58% of voters nationwide favor cutting off federal funds for "sanctuary cities" that offer protection to illegal immigrants, [August 2007, Rasmussen Reports]

79% of American adults favor a proposal requiring employers to fire workers who falsify identity documents, [August 2007, Rasmussen Reports]

Just 22% of American voters currently favor the "comprehensive" immigration reform bill in the U.S. Senate despite a despite a massive White House effort, [June 2007, Rasmussen Reports]

2007 Senate amnesty bill: just 16% of American voters believe illegal immigration will decline if the bill is passed. If voters had a chance to improve the legislation, 75% would make changes to increase border security measures and reduce illegal immigration and just 19% would make it easier for illegal immigrants to stay in the country and eventually become citizens, [May 2007, Rasmussen Reports]

When presented by itself, 79% of likely voters supported reducing the illegal immigrant population by increasing border enforcement, penalizing employers, and increasing cooperation with local law enforcement, while 15 percent were opposed. No other proposal had near this level of support, [May 2007, Pulse Opinion Research]

Which approach do you prefer – enforcing the law and cause illegal immigrants to go home over time or granting legal status and citizenship to those who meet certain requirements? 56% prefer "Enforce the law" while 35% prefer "Grant legal status." [May 2007, Pulse Opinion Research]

58% of likely voters prefer that the 12 million illegal immigrants in the country go home as opposed to 30% who prefer they be allowed to stay legally, [May 2007, Pulse Opinion Research]

59% of Americans believe the more effective way to deal with the potential treat to national security posed by millions of illegal immigrants living within the United States is to crack down on illegal immigration by toughening the enforcement of existing laws, deporting illegal immigrants and prosecuting the employers who illegally employ workers, [April 2007, UPI/Zogby Poll]

61% of likely American voters oppose providing a path to US citizenship for those illegal immigrants who entered the United States illegally, and who fraudulently obtained green cards and Social Security numbers, when millions are playing by the rules and waiting in their countries to enter the United States legally, [April 2007, McLaughlin & Associates Poll]

A poll of likely voters, using neutral language, found that Americans prefer the House of Representatives' enforcement-only bill by 2-1 over Senate proposals to legalize illegal immigrants and greatly increase legal immigration, [April 2006, Zogby America]

Also genius, I see you make the assertion that I would be against massive destructive immigration because I fear "race mixing"... strawman, idiotic and insulting insinuation. Nothing to do with my anti-ILLEGAL immigration stance. You lost any kind of respect or decorum I would have with you when you start down the "kill whitey" path.

MSMD, pretty much devastated your naive and passive aggressive arguments so I don't see a need to address all of your "pie in the sky" worldviews.

Kevin MacDonald on Jews and Immigration
[youtube:1bg56pj0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCSeSOVCfkk[/youtube]1bg56pj0]

[What]

Whaler I'll deal with you later first Monkey.

[What]

Those things can be associated with Islam. Suicide bombings are championed by Muslims because in their religion it is taught that a martyrdom in the name of Allah leads to instant paradise. They call it Jihad. Since they believe this they have no fear of death and suicide bombings have become a staple of their guerilla warfare, and, in some instances, terrorist strategy. Of course, Mossad and other intel agencies have taken full advantage of this and can pretty much make anything look like a suicide bombing. That doesn't negate the fact that primarily Muslims use the suicide bombing method, and rely on their faith to bring them to perform such an act.

Associated with Islam or scumbag Muslims who do shitty things? Championed by Islam or whackjob Islam-ignorant Muslims? You're convoluting again. Here's Pamela Geller talking about your Jihad:
http://www.loonwatch.com/2010/02/pamela ... ted-jihad/ Nazis Adopted Jihad
So much conflicting emotions right? Insulting Islam in the same sentence insulting Nazis and accusing Nazis of adopting the evil Islamic Jihad...prepare your selective thinking Monkey. If Jihad has lead to suicide attacks, then did the bible justify and lead to witch burnings?  You either cleverly or ignorantly only imply the western meaning of that word Jihad which is holy war, you forgot to mention the other two...or did you? How is suicide bombing allowed in Islam when suicide leads to an instant ticket to hell?  

Its funny when people refute anything you say about Islam or Muslims you render those responses as apologetic or denying acknowledgment but you are doing the same thing with white/Christian atrocities. Granted you say things like

The thing is you won't see me being an apologist or making excuses for white criminals if I believe they are guilty.

right before making excuses, whitewashing or somehow blaming the Jews for white/Christian crimes...something you accuse the Muslims of doing.

If the following are not apologist/ making excuses then I don't know what is:

What wrote: so I'll list some my own observations and hearsay of WS/WC...again you're just projecting

     What wrote:-Black slavery? "The Jews did it too!"



And what about black on black slavery? Forgot to mention that huh? Africans themselves were instrumental in the trans atlantic slave trade. African middle-men captured their own people and sold them off to the Jews and their Gentile lapdogs.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VyLHf-Pqcw0

Africans have been enslaving each other for centuries and CONTINUE to do so in Africa today. Arab Muslims ran an equivalent slave trade as the one spearheaded by the Jews, and CONTINUE to run it. http://www.africanholocaust.net/news_ah ... etrade.htm

White Gentiles were the first to ABOLISH slavery. Africans, Jews and Arab Muslims continue to practice slavery and sex slavery. Israel has one of the biggest sex slave trades in the world, and the vicitms are White European Gentile girls. Non-whites can't ever bring themselves to feel empathy for Whites though. "Victimization" has been allocated to the non-white races of the world. These callous double standards from the non-white peoples need to be exposed for what they are.

    What wrote:-White NATO killing brownies in the Middle East? "Yea but the Jews are the reason we have the wars!"



Granted Whites have done wet-work for the Jews, there's no question about it. So have non-whites. Ottoman Turk Muslims took out 1.5 million Armenians and 350,000 Greeks at the beginning of the last century. Sure the "Donmeh" in high positions giving the orders were crypto-Judaics, but Muslims did the killing. According to Muslims they bare no responsibilty for this crime, but Whites are responsible when they are used for similar purposes. Sunni Muslims and Shia Muslims are currently killing each other in Iraq in a vicious civil war. Iraq and Iran fought an 8 year long war, slaughtered millions, used chemical weapons. Turks and Iraqis have been killing Kurds in hordes since time immemorial. Muslims NEVER mention any of these things, they'll only ever speak out against "the wars" and "israel" because non-Muslims are the perpetrators in these instances.

   What wrote:-Native American Genocide? "Columbus was a crypto Jew and besides them Amerindians were killing each other before we got there and we gave them civilized western civilization!" or the funniest one "Whites were native to the Americas, not the Amerindians!" LOL



I've gone back and forth on this issue. technically in order for something to qualify as a "genocide" there has to be deliberate intent to wipe out a racial/religious/ethnic/cultural group, either by physical annaihilation or cultural genocide (forcing them to adapt your own culture). A case could be made for some groups of Europeans (many different ones came, British, French, Spanish, Dutch, etc) attempting cultural genocide on the so-called "native" peoples of the Americas, not physical genocide. "mexicans" as they are called today, and other central/south american peoples are mostly descendants of the Incas, Mayans and Aztecs. They were not wiped out. Amerindians living in what is now US territory and Canadian terriotry still exist. they were not wiped out.

The fact is the "native americans" were not native to this land. They came from Asia (Siberia). I'm not using that as an excuse for what crimes were committing against them, but that's just a fact. Vast portions of the continent was uninhabited and did not belong to anyone, so nobody can claim that Europeans stole land that didn't belong to anyone in the first place. If you want to inflate the crimes of Europeans than let's look at how many times Muslims, Arabs, Mongols and other Asians have done the very same thing TO EUROPEANS nonetheless.

And what about black on black slavery? Forgot to mention that huh?

Not quite. Well last I checked, black people did not make back to back condescending disrespectful anti white/ anti Christian threads in this forum. So why bother mentioning that? You kind of just proved my point by being disappointed in me for not mentioning black slavery. I was nice enough to omit that apologetic line I hear from WS when confronted about black slavery. Its the same thing as what I wrote about the Native American land apologetic line. Its the standard evade and divert to the crimes of others, something which crypto Zionist Noam Chomsky does when talking about Israel then diverting subject to America. The apologetic line of "well they were doing to each other what we did to them before we got there". Its the same shit I've heard from WS when they say "but but blacks were enslaving each other before we got there". WS never fail to say "Natives were killing each other too, and blacks enslaved each other too but no one cares about that, only when whitey does it do people care". I've said this to other WS before and in other forums: if you feel so offended when people focus more on white on black or white on Native American past crimes than they do on black on black slavery or NA on NA wars, then with this logic WS please answer me why do you put more focus on and get way more angry when non-whites rape or kill whites? Have not white people been raping and killing their fellow whites before non whites came here? Have not whites been warring with each other before Muslims came here?  Just like Jews, hilariously some WS think white people are part of some sort of single nation when they are not. Yes you are a race but you are divided among multitude of countries and cultures, and would be at each others throats if the non whites were not in your country...but now all of you WS have a common enemy the Jews and non whites so you forget about the problems whites would have among themselves.

I've gone back and forth on this issue. technically in order for something to qualify as a "genocide" there has to be deliberate intent to wipe out a racial/religious/ethnic/cultural group, either by physical annaihilation or cultural genocide (forcing them to adapt your own culture). A case could be made for some groups of Europeans (many different ones came, British, French, Spanish, Dutch, etc) attempting cultural genocide on the so-called "native" peoples of the Americas, not physical genocide. "mexicans" as they are called today, and other central/south american peoples are mostly descendants of the Incas, Mayans and Aztecs. They were not wiped out. Amerindians living in what is now US territory and Canadian terriotry still exist. they were not wiped out.

The fact is the "native americans" were not native to this land. They came from Asia (Siberia). I'm not using that as an excuse for what crimes were committing against them, but that's just a fact. Vast portions of the continent was uninhabited and did not belong to anyone, so nobody can claim that Europeans stole land that didn't belong to anyone in the first place. If you want to inflate the crimes of Europeans than let's look at how many times Muslims, Arabs, Mongols and other Asians have done the very same thing TO EUROPEANS nonetheless.

Of course you've  gone back and forth on this topic, you're on Native American land, no one wants to be a hypocrite. Just  more cognitive dissonance on your part. WS bring up the chicken or egg argument when it comes to land ownership, failing to realize that they would rip Jews apart if Jews used the same BS argument for claiming Palestinian lands. The Levant was inhabited by many tribes, before that it was probably uninhabited, so by your logic the Jews did not steal any land from the Palestinians  :roll: .  And for using genocide, I agree I get annoyed when people get friendly with that word something of which I'm guilty of in my first post  :mrgreen: , but let's not play semantics here you know what I meant: exterminated, killed by large numbers premeditated, systematic or not. Please be also sure to advise people from not calling the white/Christian deaths in Soviet Russia a genocide, bc who knows if there was a systematic plan of getting rid of them, as many non Jewish whites also were in the Soviet elites. Also genocide doesn't mean complete population extermination or else the Jews wouldn't use it either. Otherwise by one of your implication, I can brush off the Soviet extermination of white Christian(many of whom died from forced labor)Russians Ukrainians bc there are 2 billion Christians,a billion whites, 140,000,000 Russians, and 46,000,000 Ukrainians in this present day and age, they're all still around...they weren't wiped out.


And this is for the people who think the whites are the true indigenous people of the America's: at least try to sound sane like the Native Americans and not include all white people. The difference with NA claiming the Americas and whites claiming the Americas is you'll never hear NA saying "America is for ALL my fellow Asians" just bc they happen to be of Asian origin. They don't consider Asian to be race, they consider themselves to be a part of an Asian subgroup, Amerindians. Unlike NA, when WS claim Americas they include all whites by saying "Europeans came here first".  Which European country did they come from? All of them? So it can't be for all whites, just the whites who originate from those early travelers...but this would become like the Israel laws wouldn't it? The Irish, Italians(or which ever Europeans) who emigrated more later to Canada/America really should not have any say about blacks or NA being a nuisance in their white lands and demand segregation. The descendants of those black slaves and descendants of  those NA were definitely here before any European immigrant that came in the 1800s or 1900s.

Gotta look out for my own behind when it comes down to it.

Oh you mean like when the tribal Jews do the same? Of course only the Jews are evil for doing it, but when others do it is human nature. That was in no way defending the tribal selfish Jews, but just pointing out the hypocrisy and the "cognitive dissonance" you accuse Muslims of and how similar WS are to Jewish supremacists its almost ironically hilarious.

What wrote: Btw Monkey why do you use zionist sources for your anti Islam bs?One of your sources Religionofpeace.com is associated with these:http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Pages/Links.htm LOL all Zionist organizations.



I care not what the overall purpose of that website is. A Muslim poster claimed that Islam is 'anti-slavery' and that the koran rewards those who free slaves. That page points out the specific verses in the Koran and hadith which prove the exact opposite of what this Muslim was claiming. The sources and footnotes for that page are abundant, it's not just some Zionist rant. Muslims get in the habit of saying "look a zionist site is saying it so it can't be true." Granted Zionists do make things up about Muslims, but that page appears to be correct about Islam's pro-slavery stance. Debunk it if it's not true.

I see. So then do you still stand by discounting all the Jewish and non-Jewish sources some of the anti-Nazi people here were presenting to prove Hitler and the Nazis were under Jewish Illuminati control? Because the second you found out that some of those sources were from Jews, you automatically thought all this "Nazis/Hitler were Jews" was discredited. And yes those Muslims, Christians and Jews who deny what is in their books are extremely annoying. Slavery is in all three books so they need to stop denying it.

What wrote:You expect people to take your anti Muslim/Islam bs seriously?

Ppl can judge for themselves whether what I'm saying about Muslims is correct or not.

    What wrote:You actually believe in that Islamization of Europe crap. Did you have a convo with Zionist Jew Pamela Geller of the "Stop the Islamization of America" organization?

I've refrained from posting anything from pamela gellar or other obvious jewish neo zio-cons. Gellar and the Islamists she denounces are equally wacked out. They can both GTFO of the west and have at it in the deserts of negev for all I care.

:lol: Not to sound like John Boehner but "hell no you can't...um didn't". You might as well have posted something from Pamela Gellar and " jewish neo zio-cons" bc you sound just like them. So when Jews are spewing vitriolic crap about Germans, whites or Christians should Muslims/non whites believe them bc they feel those anti white/Christian propaganda is actually true despite  coming from Jews? Should they do the same as you and say "The Jews and the Whites/Christians these Jews denigrate are equally whacked out GTFO back to Europe, including the ones in Canada, America, South Africa and Australia"? You'd certainly accuse them of being brainwashed by Jew propaganda.

What wrote:Zionist Christians always talk about Muslim polygamy and death penalties sanctioned on trivial things, but they forget polygamy is a ok in Christianity (that skank King Solomon had 700 wives jeesh) and homosexuality and apostasy is punishable by death.


You won't ever see me defending Zionist Christians. :lol: They're scum.

Right of course, but you will defend their Islamophobia bc you are using their same talking points. And to be honest I've heard this from a few anti Zionist Christians as well, but they're just ignorant.

What wrote:Most of your accusations of Muslim behavior is only your word and hearsay,


Like what?

Like this:

Muslims on the other hand just can't bring themselves to denounce other muslims or crimes perpetrated by muslims. Anytime a Muslim is implicated in a horrendous crime, they say it's not true, a "false-flag" by those "evil white westerners" to demonize Islam, and so on. When the evidence of Muslim guilt is abundant they are SILENT.

I'm assuming you have not met 1 billion Muslims who feel this way. I'm assuming this is from your day to day internet interactions with Muslims from forums or youtube comments...yes? Or even from Muslims in your area. If so, then those are your personal observations, and interactions and are not common among majority of 1 billion Muslims...otherwise we should also paint all 2 billion Christians of being Zionists or not protesting against priest pedophilia.

And do you mean "SILENT" and lack of denouncing like this?:
Millions of Indian Muslims Protest Terrorism, Surrender Holiday Spirit: Media Silent
http://www.marcgopin.com/2008/12/10/mil ... ia-silent/

9 Prominent American Muslim Scholars Speaking Against Violence in the Name of Islam
http://www.theamericanmuslim.org/tam.ph ... e_in_the_/

Muslims against Extremism and Fundamentalism
http://www.islamfortoday.com/fundamnetalism.htm

9/11 Evokes Painful Memories for U.S. Muslim
http://www.theamericanmuslim.org/tam.ph ... us_muslim/

A Muslim Voice Against Terrorism
http://www.theamericanmuslim.org/tam.ph ... terrorism/

Giant list of Muslims who Condemn Terrorist Attacks
http://www.muhajabah.com/otherscondemn.php

In 2005 U.S. Muslims issue fatwa against Terrorism
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8740980/ns/us_news/

In 2010 Muslim Cleric issuing a freakin FATWA against Terrorism
http://www.time.com/time/world/article/ ... 62,00.html
When speaking of fatwas we will always be reminded of Salmon Rushdie's fatwa instead of that one.

20 North American Imams Issue Fatwa Against Terrorists
http://www.theamericanmuslim.org/tam.ph ... ts/0017835
 
Muslim Voices Against Extremism and Terrorism - Part I - Fatwas
http://www.theamericanmuslim.org/tam.ph ... _i_fatwas/

Muslim outfits protest 'Sanghi' terrorism
http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/a ... 106213.ece

In 2007 German Muslims Protest Terror- Hold Rally at Saudi Embassy
http://gatewaypundit.rightnetwork.com/2 ... i-embassy/




But I'm sure that shouldn't count since a ninja is holding that sign. And btw what is your problems with ninjas...I think they're pretty epic.






See I can post pictures too. What is your point with those pics you posted? That there are crazy Muslims among 1.5 billion, well GTF outta here! Bad apples in every group correct? Or else others would be justified for hatin on "whitey".

Now does this mean majority of Muslims are like them? I wouldn't know bc I have not met 1.5 billion Muslims, however you arrogantly paint Muslims based on those incidents.

And you're right its such a shame how those Muslims protesting terrorism(some of which probably were false flags, not committed by Muslims)  do not acknowledge their crimes, brush off their crimes, are silent about Muslim crimes. It's either that or blaming on Jewish false flags right?

Like how so many Turkish Muslims and Muslims in general blame the Jews for the Armenian genocide or 911 right? Turkey banned youtube bc it posted the truth about the Armenian genocide and about crypto Jew Ataturak. The Muslims I've encountered look at me like I'm crazy if I tell them who actually did 911, they don't want to be associated with conspiracy people like us who blame Israel or Jews. Like in this pro-Muslim website Loonwatch.com: http://www.loonwatch.com/2010/04/south- ... ntroversy/
 
Look how the annoying author(a bit unfair, he is intelligent but still annoying for doing this) kept brushing off Mossad involvement:

In retrospect, I fear that I may have used too strong wording when I was discussing Joseph Cohen's past.  The way my article is written, it seems as if I am saying that he is really a Jew pretending to be a Muslim, and this could be used by some to promote a vast conspiracy, i.e. "it's the Mossad!"  This was not my intention, and I caution people to stay away from such conspiratorial talk.

Abdulmajid: I do not think we should jump to say that it's some grand conspiracy with him working as a double agent for the Mossad.

Nor do I believe this is some great conspiracy (i.e. the Mossad, CIA, etc.), and I strongly urge Muslims not to say such things.

I urge you to go to Loonwatch and debate with them, ask them all the questions and state all the facts and accusations you posted on this forum in the Loonwatch.com comments section. They are more qualified at having an expertly debate on Islam/actions of Muslims/Muslim countries. You will notice in the comments section they very much acknowledge Muslim crimes and make no white washing, they denounce it and explain the situation and history. Unless of course your real agenda is the white separatist one and are cleverly using the evil actions from the past of minority Muslims presently as a good reason to keep them out and keep white countries white.

Look how the commentors attack someone for linking his/her name to Patriots Question 911 and attacking him/her for calling for the ruin of the American economy(something similar  you once did with your anti American bs...here they Muslims standing up for America while you a white Canadian called made anti American threads on your fellow whites in the white majority America...are all Canadian whites this anti America? I know they're not, I'm sure you're no longer one either.
http://www.loonwatch.com/2011/01/allen- ... t-muslims/

Patriots Question 9/11 Says: Cut the oil supply to the USA and divert it to South America and China.
Mosizzle Says: "Two things need to be done to destroy the US, stop trading in the dollar, and OPEC cutting oil supply. She wouldn't get much oppostion to that."

Who wants to destroy the US? Allen West does not represent America, he is one loon. Perhaps you meant limiting America's influence around the world that has allowed it to do some of the terrible things it has done.

Mosizzle Says:I was only objecting to your call for America to be destroyed by cutting their oil supply. I thought you might have accidentally made that statement, because I certainly don't think you're serious in seeing America destroyed.
Someone might quote your comment out of context. Believe me, it happens .
By the way, I think dumping the dollar and cutting the oil supply would be a good way forward if Islamophobes seize power. They have done the same to Muslim countries on less important issues.

# NassirH Says:Patriots Question 9/11
You're not helping Loonwatch or the Muslim community by adopting that username and linking to that website. The statement about cutting off oil supplies doesn't help either.

Theres more in that thread.

"Islamic" Terrorism has killed more Muslims than non Muslims so I'd think they'd have no problem condemning Muslim atrocities like terrorism. But in Iraq, Afghanistan, Palestine, and Lebanon when Muslim fighters simply stand up to the Western/Israeli Army and defend their countries by fighting the invaders instead of just sitting like cowards is considered "terrorism" by the West and Israel. Those "insurgents" are not terrorists, they are freedom fighters, and if Muslims don't condemn them well more power to them bc I support those freedom fighters as well, bc they are not terrorists. As for Muslims supporting suicide terrorist activities that kill the enemy and civilians then they're evil...but I'm sure living in constant state of hell can lead any person into a despicable person.

Doha Debates among both Muslims and non Muslims in a Muslim majority audience voting poll.
This House believes that Arab women should have full equality with men
This House believes that Arab women should have full equality with men
MOTION PASSED by 86% to 14%
http://www.thedohadebates.com/debates/player.asp?d=25

This House believes the face veil is a barrier to integration in the West
MOTION PASSED by 57% to 43%
http://www.thedohadebates.com/debates/past.asp?s=3#

Watch how these evil Muslims Nadim Hasbani and Ahmed Ibrahim Diraige defend the crisis in Darfur, and how those evil Muslims in the audience deny the crisis. :roll:
This House believes Arab governments couldn't care less about Darfur
MOTION PASSED by 81% to 19%
http://www.thedohadebates.com/debates/past.asp?s=4#

This House believes that Gulf Arabs value profit over people
MOTION PASSED by 75% to 25%
http://www.thedohadebates.com/debates/player.asp?d=45

Comedy special: This House believes women are superior to men
MOTION PASSED by 67% to 33%
http://www.thedohadebates.com/debates/past.asp?s=6#

These Muslims actually go out of their way to create more Islamophobia...so I wouldn't accuse the Muslims of lacking condemnation of their crimes.
- Asra Nomani asking to be profiled  :lol:
[youtube:3czrknvy]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RV-TXsX_Po4[/youtube]3czrknvy]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjmTw1cw ... re=related

-Ed Husain going out of his way to remind people Jews did not do 911:
This House believes that Muslims are failing to combat extremism
MOTION PASSED by 70% to 30%
http://www.thedohadebates.com/debates/player.asp?d=4




And as for all your straw mans implying that I think whites should give up their culture to accommodate non whites, well its bs. I don't want any of that. I really don't care where anyone wants to live as long they mind their own business live in peace and do not deprive anyone of their  heritage, that goes for whites going to non white countries as well...basically freedom. Immigration policies have to be up to the government and what the countries' people want. So please white people prioritize getting your governments back so you can close the borders, if that is what majority of the countries' people want. However I'm not ok with the dividing up the Americas in segregated racial areas like David Duke like minded people suggest. The black, white supremacists who want to be segregated amongst themselves should be able to do so if they really want, but they can not force that on everyone.

And actually you kind of missed the whole point of my first post. I was not in any way trying prove how evil Christians/whites are, so you do NOT need to convince me or refute white/Christian crimes.  My point was that for every Muslim/non white crime past or present you post I could give just as many Christian/white crime past or present. My point was to tell you and other WS to not paint all Muslims/Islam/non whites with the bad ones, otherwise you're being just like those anti white racist idiots who hate all whites and Christians for the past and present actions of the minority. No hatin on whitey, or hatin on Muslims.

As for the word cracker? I stand by what I said, its a biscuit, which usually is the color white. You can call dark skinned people chocolate if you want for the similar colors(but I usually hear WS calling  brownies shit/dung/manure colored). And I don't find the words spic, sand nigger, dune coon,kike, chink, gandhi offensive(I happen to be one of those things). To my knowledge those words do not have a humiliating, negative historical connotation like nigger. There, straw man resolved.

Now its your turn to write a book...and go!

[What]

I wouldn't consider TiU being a Christian forum

Thanks Ognir. :wave:

I don't either but some here think its ok to be Islamophobic while defending anti Christian comments as "Jew propaganda".

MSMD, pretty much devastated your naive and passive aggressive arguments so I don't see a need to address all of your "pie in the sky" worldviews.

Would you prefer it if I were aggressive only? If so, then listen up you   !   No seriously, no offense to MSMD, he did not devastate anything, it was only full of cognitive dissonances and tired old MSM Islamophobic lines, buzz words like "Jihad", and he actually missed my point by continuing to list crimes of Muslims/non whites. And by "naive" and "pie in the sky" worldviews, you are referring to my views on multiculturalism and people of different groups living together side  by side peacefully aren't you? First of all no where in my post do I say that is what the current reality and statehood of the world is in. That is what I would like to see, does that bother you? Man I really am a bitch for that aren't I? I'm ok with segregation, but yea I would like the rest of the people who do not mind living among each other to live in peace. Typical, this always works, if you want to piss off  WS than just say you are ok with the satanic "multiculturalism"   .

Also genius, I see you make the assertion that I would be against massive destructive immigration because I fear "race mixing"... strawman, idiotic and insulting insinuation. Nothing to do with my anti-ILLEGAL immigration stance. You lost any kind of respect or decorum I would have with you when you start down the "kill whitey" path.

Another one of those with the "victim complex", accusing me of going the "kill whitey" path when my posts include no such thing. Talk about straw mans, genius.  . My purpose in life is not to get respect from closet WS, so its all good  ...oops me being passive aggressive again.

How was the race mixing paranoia a straw man if I did not address anything directly to you? The "race mixing" point I made was for all the people who fear it, for whoever it was relevant. I wrote it as a stereotype I observed among WS, you urgently needed to tell me it was not your issue...perhaps thou doth protest too much?

All of my posts were for WS or WSC, not white people in general. You wouldn't have a problem if I was stating the stereotypes about black supremacists would you?

Multiculturalism is defo a 100% Jewish agenda. The evidence is overwhelming for this but yet you will call me a white nationalist or racist for opposing this sinister agenda. Sorry, not really a White Nationalist but I do have an interest in fighting any Jewish agenda against my country/people. Opposing illegal immigration is a very mainstream middle class stance...Check out some polling data and snap out of your fantasy world. Maybe you would stop being so smug and have some sympathy for white working class people instead of dismissing their concerns as "racist".

I do have sympathy for the white working class, anyone actually that is jobless, homeless. And I highly doubt you have genuine sympathies for all the non whites suffering or all the Muslims dying in Iraq, Afghanistan, Palestine...these are just bonuses for WS to use when making a case against Jews.  I'm very much aware of multiculturalism being a Jewish agenda, but like I said I don't have the opposite-Jew thinking mentality. Islamophobia and fights among different races is also a Jew agenda, but many anti Zionist WS are Islamophobics and support violence among non whites. Jews also push the "we are equal, equal rights for everyone" agenda, but Jew-wise people know their sole reason for doing that is self-serving and not bc they truly believe in "we are equal, equal rights for everyone". Doesn't mean I'm going to go "wait a minute, Jews always push that hippy we are equal bs, ya know what fuck that shit... we are NOT equal, no equal rights for everyone!". I do not plan on doing everything opposite of their agenda(bc usually they play opposing sides like Israeli-firster Dutchman Geert Wilders who is very much against multiculturalism he evens wants to deport the immigrants and Muslims from the Netherlands).

Spare me the "anti-ILLEGAL" immigration stance. Come on grow balls like those at Stormfront and just say you are anti brownie immigrant, illegal or legal. And yes I'm aware of the reasons for the Mexican illegal immigrants, and the racist affirmative action, racist hate crime laws. They are all biased planning against whites. But what I usually hear from WS is about deporting 6th generation Mexicans, Hispanics, blacks, other non whites from America...but they're ok with 2nd generation Europeans remaining here. They don't just go after illegals, they want all the non whites out.

[Kadafi]

Hey Monkey Shit your still at it again showing the "Taliban Soccer Field Shooting" video! I mean this video has been on the news 1,000,000,000 times does that make it a Muslim crime that we show it 1 more time! NO! Dude wake up, do u know how many Mossad connections have been found in Iraq when a Kurd blows up a Sunni or Shia trying to start a civil war. Do you know how many Christians have been killed in Russia. If you google Buddist Monks killing ppl I bet you'll find it. If you google Peaceful Hippies killing ppl you'll find it prabably wit a pic of Manson!

I gave you that link to the Glorious Quran and thats that. You obviously are either an Israeli agent trying to distract us or you just like startin shit. I mean I'm not on this site to have a religious battle. I am here to fight injustice and educate myself and others and speaking of that if a Palestinian kills someone is that a "Muslim Crime?" Well first you have to understand that most Palestinians are secular just like Iraq was secular under Saddam. But as a Muslim, I believe that GOD will judge everyone no matter what they believe. And suicide is a choice that Islam warns against but if u lived in Jenin and were the last remaining member of your family after the IDF murdered everyone I'm sure you would want revenge! And given that Palestinians aren't too religious u wouldn't care what religion says because you would be too desperate to get revenge something that we as Americans cant even fathom.

I'M DONE ARGUING BOUT ANTI-ISLAMIC PROPAGANDA ON HERE CUZ I KNOW SOME MEMBERS HERE DO COME FROM SITES THAT ARE RACIST BUT THAT ONLY HURTS THEIR CAUSE BECAUSE THE JEWS KNOW THAT NOBODY WILL RESPECT SOMEONE IF THEY HATE SOMEONE FOR BEING DARK LIKE A NEGRO. BUT IF WE ALL COME TOGETHER LIKE SOME WHITE-PRIDE ORGANIZATIONS HAVE DONE AND AIM AT THE REAL ENEMY WE WILL BE A SERIOUS THREAT. I'm Caucasian and I don't have a prob wit ppl having pride in their culture but if you're involved in a serious movement there is no way u can hate all blacks or mexicans and back it up wit facts but you can back up being anti-zionist with cold hard facts.

[Kadafi]

hey mr. "what". Why do you describe Muslims as non-white? Are Muslims from Germany White? Are Turkish Muslims White? Are Syrian Muslims White( I know full-blooded Syrians who are Blond-haired blue-eyed), I know the media and Hollywood show Muslims as Dark-skinned with beards and make all muslims look like Pakistanis but the fact is that Arabians are considered Caucasian and have no genetic racial connection to ppl from India or Pakistan or any non Arab Asian countries.

Just curious why you write (Muslim/non-white) and I'm not just talkin bout whites who convert to Islam I just want your line on where a person is not white anymore. Is it in Turkey or Albania or what?

Other than that I appreciate you stating facts and being real. And most importantly I thank u for helping get that giant stick out of Monkey Poop's butt.

[Whaler]

I wouldn't consider TiU being a Christian forum

Thanks Ognir. :wave:

I don't either but some here think its ok to be Islamophobic while defending anti Christian comments as "Jew propaganda".

MSMD, pretty much devastated your naive and passive aggressive arguments so I don't see a need to address all of your "pie in the sky" worldviews.

Would you prefer it if I were aggressive only? If so, then listen up you   !   No seriously, no offense to MSMD, he did not devastate anything, it was only full of cognitive dissonances and tired old MSM Islamophobic lines, buzz words like "Jihad", and he actually missed my point by continuing to list crimes of Muslims/non whites. And by "naive" and "pie in the sky" worldviews, you are referring to my views on multiculturalism and people of different groups living together side  by side peacefully aren't you? First of all no where in my post do I say that is what the current reality and statehood of the world is in. That is what I would like to see, does that bother you? Man I really am a bitch for that aren't I? I'm ok with segregation, but yea I would like the rest of the people who do not mind living among each other to live in peace. Typical, this always works, if you want to piss off  WS than just say you are ok with the satanic "multiculturalism"   .

Also genius, I see you make the assertion that I would be against massive destructive immigration because I fear "race mixing"... strawman, idiotic and insulting insinuation. Nothing to do with my anti-ILLEGAL immigration stance. You lost any kind of respect or decorum I would have with you when you start down the "kill whitey" path.

Another one of those with the "victim complex", accusing me of going the "kill whitey" path when my posts include no such thing. Talk about straw mans, genius.  . My purpose in life is not to get respect from closet WS, so its all good  ...oops me being passive aggressive again.

How was the race mixing paranoia a straw man if I did not address anything directly to you? The "race mixing" point I made was for all the people who fear it, for whoever it was relevant. I wrote it as a stereotype I observed among WS, you urgently needed to tell me it was not your issue...perhaps thou doth protest too much?

All of my posts were for WS or WSC, not white people in general. You wouldn't have a problem if I was stating the stereotypes about black supremacists would you?

Multiculturalism is defo a 100% Jewish agenda. The evidence is overwhelming for this but yet you will call me a white nationalist or racist for opposing this sinister agenda. Sorry, not really a White Nationalist but I do have an interest in fighting any Jewish agenda against my country/people. Opposing illegal immigration is a very mainstream middle class stance...Check out some polling data and snap out of your fantasy world. Maybe you would stop being so smug and have some sympathy for white working class people instead of dismissing their concerns as "racist".

I do have sympathy for the white working class, anyone actually that is jobless, homeless. And I highly doubt you have genuine sympathies for all the non whites suffering or all the Muslims dying in Iraq, Afghanistan, Palestine...these are just bonuses for WS to use when making a case against Jews.  I'm very much aware of multiculturalism being a Jewish agenda, but like I said I don't have the opposite-Jew thinking mentality. Islamophobia and fights among different races is also a Jew agenda, but many anti Zionist WS are Islamophobics and support violence among non whites. Jews also push the "we are equal, equal rights for everyone" agenda, but Jew-wise people know their sole reason for doing that is self-serving and not bc they truly believe in "we are equal, equal rights for everyone". Doesn't mean I'm going to go "wait a minute, Jews always push that hippy we are equal bs, ya know what fuck that shit... we are NOT equal, no equal rights for everyone!". I do not plan on doing everything opposite of their agenda(bc usually they play opposing sides like Israeli-firster Dutchman Geert Wilders who is very much against multiculturalism he evens wants to deport the immigrants and Muslims from the Netherlands).

Spare me the "anti-ILLEGAL" immigration stance. Come on grow balls like those at Stormfront and just say you are anti brownie immigrant, illegal or legal. And yes I'm aware of the reasons for the Mexican illegal immigrants, and the racist affirmative action, racist hate crime laws. They are all biased planning against whites. But what I usually hear from WS is about deporting 6th generation Mexicans, Hispanics, blacks, other non whites from America...but they're ok with 2nd generation Europeans remaining here. They don't just go after illegals, they want all the non whites out.

you must be a baby boomer that has left MSMD and my generation with a mountain of shit...thanks guys...now go down to Florida, fuck off and die. Baby Boomers = pile of shit failures that have sold their kids and grand kids down the river.

I love how any time whites are brought up as victims you instantly go into smug mode and start calling me a WS. You're a fucking idiot and a naive nerd. Probably not even Muslim right? I really don't have an issue with Muslims...I really don't have an issue with blacks. I do however have a major issue with Jews carrying out an agenda that fundamentally goes against my interests. Sorry hombre, whitey and blackey are going to get pissed if you keep sending illegal aliens into the country and murdering our children.

And I highly doubt you have genuine sympathies for all the non whites suffering or all the Muslims dying in Iraq, Afghanistan, Palestine...these are just bonuses for WS to use when making a case against Jews.

Another cheapshot you piece of shit. You have no arguments based in logic so you go to nitwit character "assessments" as a staple of your "rebuttals". Ultra Jewey.

I'm a true blue anti zio from the Alex Jones camp. Check my post history instead of making false assumptions. Also, why are you arguing with WN's all of the time? You obviously have some kind of deep seated hatred for white interests...oops, I was just acting like an obnoxious Jew trying to diagnose "Whats" mental illness...kinda like "What" does.

I hope you die lonely in a nursing home choking on a hungry-man TV dinner while watching Matlock.

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Associated with Islam or scumbag Muslims who do shitty things? Championed by Islam or whackjob Islam-ignorant Muslims? You're convoluting again. Here's Pamela Geller talking about your Jihad:
http://www.loonwatch.com/2010/02/pamela ... ted-jihad/ Nazis Adopted Jihad
So much conflicting emotions right? Insulting Islam in the same sentence insulting Nazis and accusing Nazis of adopting the evil Islamic Jihad...prepare your selective thinking Monkey. If Jihad has lead to suicide attacks, then did the bible justify and lead to witch burnings?  You either cleverly or ignorantly only imply the western meaning of that word Jihad which is holy war, you forgot to mention the other two...or did you? How is suicide bombing allowed in Islam when suicide leads to an instant ticket to hell?

Why do you keep bringing up Pamela Geller? Who cares what Pamela Geller is saying. She's a Jew and Neo-Con. I haven't linked anything back to "atlas shrugs". She is indeed a bullshit artist.

Muslims are against suicide, as in taking ones own life deliberately with yourself as the target, but if it's a martyrdom operation in the name of Allah then they don't count it as suicide, but a noble deed. The purpose of the martyrdom is not "suicide" it is to kill "infidels" on the battlefield which is encouraged in the Koran. They believe that is an instant ticket to paradise.

Qur'an (3:169-170) - "Think not of those who are slain in Allah's way as dead. Nay, they live, finding their sustenance in the presence of their Lord; They rejoice in the bounty provided by Allah: And with regard to those left behind, who have not yet joined them (in their bliss), the (Martyrs) glory in the fact that on them is no fear, nor have they (cause to) grieve."

As for witch burnings. Granted there are nut-jobs in every religion and Christians have indeed done horrible things in the name of Christianity and probably used the bible to justify violent acts ... in the middle ages. The Christians have a New Testament which has drastically toned down the violent rhetoric and you won't see them running around cutting peoples heads off shouting "Praise God!" in place of "Allah Akbar!". Muslims are still using the same old Koran as before.

If the following are not apologist/ making excuses then I don't know what is:

What wrote: so I'll list some my own observations and hearsay of WS/WC...again you're just projecting

     What wrote:-Black slavery? "The Jews did it too!"



And what about black on black slavery? Forgot to mention that huh? Africans themselves were instrumental in the trans atlantic slave trade. African middle-men captured their own people and sold them off to the Jews and their Gentile lapdogs.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VyLHf-Pqcw0

Africans have been enslaving each other for centuries and CONTINUE to do so in Africa today. Arab Muslims ran an equivalent slave trade as the one spearheaded by the Jews, and CONTINUE to run it. http://www.africanholocaust.net/news_ah ... etrade.htm

White Gentiles were the first to ABOLISH slavery. Africans, Jews and Arab Muslims continue to practice slavery and sex slavery. Israel has one of the biggest sex slave trades in the world, and the vicitms are White European Gentile girls. Non-whites can't ever bring themselves to feel empathy for Whites though. "Victimization" has been allocated to the non-white races of the world. These callous double standards from the non-white peoples need to be exposed for what they are.

How is that apologetic? How many White Gentiles were involved in the trans Atlantic slave trade? How many Jews were involved? How many blacks were involved? How can the "trans Atlantic slave trade" be one of your "best" examples of a "White Christian crime" when a vast majority of the slave ships were owned and operated by Jews and the whole operation was facilitated by AFRICAN middle-men and AFRICAN kingdoms who captured and sold their own people into bondage or kept them as slaves in Africa? How is that a "White Christian Crime"? less than 2% of Whites in America owned slaves. Of the ones who did 75% were Jews and 25% White Gentiles. You've blamed the entire crime on those few White people who participated, and exempted the Jews and Blacks who ran the whole thing of any blame. Do you know anything about this subject or are you just basing everything you say about it on what you leanred in school?

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What wrote:-White NATO killing brownies in the Middle East? "Yea but the Jews are the reason we have the wars!"

Granted Whites have done wet-work for the Jews, there's no question about it. So have non-whites. Ottoman Turk Muslims took out 1.5 million Armenians and 350,000 Greeks at the beginning of the last century. Sure the "Donmeh" in high positions giving the orders were crypto-Judaics, but Muslims did the killing. According to Muslims they bare no responsibility for this crime, but Whites are responsible when they are used for similar purposes. Sunni Muslims and Shia Muslims are currently killing each other in Iraq in a vicious civil war. Iraq and Iran fought an 8 year long war, slaughtered millions, used chemical weapons. Turks and Iraqis have been killing Kurds in hordes since time immemorial. Muslims NEVER mention any of these things, they'll only ever speak out against "the wars" and "israel" because non-Muslims are the perpetrators in these instances.

I firstly acknowledged Whites are carrying out wet-work for the Jews ... that's what you wanted to hear and I said it. The point is you won't ever hear Muslims acknowledging the fact that their people have done so as well.

And what about black on black slavery? Forgot to mention that huh?

Not quite. Well last I checked, black people did not make back to back condescending disrespectful anti white/ anti Christian threads in this forum.

How were they disrespectful? One was about the future of Europe with the influx of Muslim immigrants and the other was about Muslims still running their slave trade of black Christians out of Sudan. Facts become "disrespectful" in the Jewish fantasy land of political correctness.

So why bother mentioning that? You kind of just proved my point by being disappointed in me for not mentioning black slavery. I was nice enough to omit that apologetic line I hear from WS when confronted about black slavery.

When you say "black slavery" you are being extremely vague. Blacks have been used as slaves by Arabs, Jews, other Blacks and Whites. Why would "black slavery" be something Whites should be particularly sensitive about? What about White slavery? Arab and Black Muslims have taken Whites as slaves and sex slaves. So every time I say "white slavery" you must cower down, sob and tell us how sorry you are for your people doing this to us.

Its the same thing as what I wrote about the Native American land apologetic line. Its the standard evade and divert to the crimes of others, something which crypto Zionist Noam Chomsky does when talking about Israel then diverting subject to America. The apologetic line of "well they were doing to each other what we did to them before we got there". Its the same shit I've heard from WS when they say "but but blacks were enslaving each other before we got there". WS never fail to say "Natives were killing each other too, and blacks enslaved each other too but no one cares about that, only when whitey does it do people care".

It's not an apologetic line, it's a factual line. I've acknowledged Europeans did some horrible things to the Amerindians which there is no excuse for. You said it was a "genocide" which most people would interpret as the Amerindians were rounded up and physically exterminated. This simply is a lie. Jews like to talk vague like that too about the Holoca$h hoping nobody will look into the details of it and find out just how unfactual, exaggerative and downright fanciful their statements are with regard to that supposed "genocide".

Of course you've  gone back and forth on this topic, you're on Native American land, no one wants to be a hypocrite. Just  more cognitive dissonance on your part.

How would you know if I'm living on stolen Native American land ? Did they cover every square inch of this continent when the French and British arrived? Nope. I'd have to check the history but it very well could be that NOBODY lived on the land I currently am standing on thus nothing for me to feel "bad" about.

WS bring up the chicken or egg argument when it comes to land ownership, failing to realize that they would rip Jews apart if Jews used the same BS argument for claiming Palestinian lands. The Levant was inhabited by many tribes, before that it was probably uninhabited, so by your logic the Jews did not steal any land from the Palestinians  :roll:.

Maybe they're right. Why are we complaining about what they did over there? You're saying it's the same as what happened to the NA's, and I'm saying it's the same as what happened to Europeans when the Mongols and Muslim barbarians came for our lands in Europe and Byzantine ..  so I guess nobody has the right to complain about conquests and re-conquests. Israel is really the last true "colonial venture" going on today, so that's why people are complaining about it.

And for using genocide, I agree I get annoyed when people get friendly with that word something of which I'm guilty of in my first post  :mrgreen: , but let's not play semantics here you know what I meant: exterminated, killed by large numbers premeditated, systematic or not. Please be also sure to advise people from not calling the white/Christian deaths in Soviet Russia a genocide, bc who knows if there was a systematic plan of getting rid of them, as many non Jewish whites also were in the Soviet elites.

Extermination is a better term than "genocide". In fact a Jew invented the term 'geno-cide' http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocide#History as a "unique" word to characterize the Holohoax. Let's stop using it. Just like a Jew, who I'm sure you've heard of, Mr. Lev Bronstein also known as Trotsky, invented the term "racist".

Also genocide doesn't mean complete population extermination or else the Jews wouldn't use it either. Otherwise by one of your implication, I can brush off the Soviet extermination of white Christian(many of whom died from forced labor)Russians Ukrainians bc there are 2 billion Christians,a billion whites, 140,000,000 Russians, and 46,000,000 Ukrainians in this present day and age, they're all still around...they weren't wiped out.

The "scholars" can't even agree on what "genocide" even means. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocide_definitions It's a crap Jew-invented term to establish the "Holocaust" as a seminal event in history. Again, let's stop using it from now on.

Gotta look out for my own behind when it comes down to it.

Oh you mean like when the tribal Jews do the same? Of course only the Jews are evil for doing it, but when others do it is human nature. That was in no way defending the tribal selfish Jews, but just pointing out the hypocrisy and the "cognitive dissonance" you accuse Muslims of and how similar WS are to Jewish supremacists its almost ironically hilarious.

All racial or religious supremacists have similar ideologies.

What wrote: Btw Monkey why do you use zionist sources for your anti Islam bs?One of your sources Religionofpeace.com is associated with these:http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Pages/Links.htm LOL all Zionist organizations.

I care not what the overall purpose of that website is. A Muslim poster claimed that Islam is 'anti-slavery' and that the koran rewards those who free slaves. That page points out the specific verses in the Koran and hadith which prove the exact opposite of what this Muslim was claiming. The sources and footnotes for that page are abundant, it's not just some Zionist rant. Muslims get in the habit of saying "look a zionist site is saying it so it can't be true." Granted Zionists do make things up about Muslims, but that page appears to be correct about Islam's pro-slavery stance. Debunk it if it's not true.

I see. So then do you still stand by discounting all the Jewish and non-Jewish sources some of the anti-Nazi people here were presenting to prove Hitler and the Nazis were under Jewish Illuminati control? Because the second you found out that some of those sources were from Jews, you automatically thought all this "Nazis/Hitler were Jews" was discredited. And yes those Muslims, Christians and Jews who deny what is in their books are extremely annoying. Slavery is in all three books so they need to stop denying it.

Who says that page on Islamic approval of slavery was written by a Jew? You are just assuming it is. That page points out the direct verses (with footnotes) in the Koran approving of slavery and sex slavery. You can call "the source" into question all you like after you've debunked what they wrote as being false. You have not done so. Nazis were Jews people throw around recycled, junk claims they found on the net which all source back to three or four Jewish authors who also maintain that the Holocaust happened as we have been told, and plaster it all over their "works". Yea I'm pretty sure they can't be trusted.

:lol: Not to sound like John Boehner but "hell no you can't...um didn't". You might as well have posted something from Pamela Gellar and " jewish neo zio-cons" bc you sound just like them.

No I don't because I already have stated that the Jews are the primary source of our problems. How does that "sound just like them" ?

So when Jews are spewing vitriolic crap about Germans, whites or Christians should Muslims/non whites believe them bc they feel those anti white/Christian propaganda is actually true despite  coming from Jews? Should they do the same as you and say "The Jews and the Whites/Christians these Jews denigrate are equally whacked out GTFO back to Europe, including the ones in Canada, America, South Africa and Australia"? You'd certainly accuse them of being brainwashed by Jew propaganda.

It's clear that you do believe much of what Jewish historians say about Whites with regards to black slavery and Germans/Holocaust.

What wrote:Zionist Christians always talk about Muslim polygamy and death penalties sanctioned on trivial things, but they forget polygamy is a ok in Christianity (that skank King Solomon had 700 wives jeesh) and homosexuality and apostasy is punishable by death.


You won't ever see me defending Zionist Christians. :lol: They're scum.

Right of course, but you will defend their Islamophobia bc you are using their same talking points. And to be honest I've heard this from a few anti Zionist Christians as well, but they're just ignorant.

I don't have the same talking points. I don't blame muslims for 9/11 and other things generally blamed on them. I bring up their vile behavior in Europe and hatred of Western society, yet willingness to come here just to stir up shit. I also have a problem with their barbarity against women, sharia law, propensity to commit violence at the least provocation and other primitive stone age behavior that they exibit in the countries that they rule. I don't want them exporting that crap to the west as they come here in hordes.

I'm assuming you have not met 1 billion Muslims who feel this way. I'm assuming this is from your day to day internet interactions with Muslims from forums or youtube comments...yes? Or even from Muslims in your area. If so, then those are your personal observations, and interactions and are not common among majority of 1 billion Muslims...otherwise we should also paint all 2 billion Christians of being Zionists or not protesting against priest pedophilia.

And do you mean "SILENT" and lack of denouncing like this?:
Millions of Indian Muslims Protest Terrorism, Surrender Holiday Spirit: Media Silent
http://www.marcgopin.com/2008/12/10/mil ... ia-silent/

9 Prominent American Muslim Scholars Speaking Against Violence in the Name of Islam
http://www.theamericanmuslim.org/tam.ph ... e_in_the_/

Muslims against Extremism and Fundamentalism
http://www.islamfortoday.com/fundamnetalism.htm

9/11 Evokes Painful Memories for U.S. Muslim
http://www.theamericanmuslim.org/tam.ph ... us_muslim/

A Muslim Voice Against Terrorism
http://www.theamericanmuslim.org/tam.ph ... terrorism/

Giant list of Muslims who Condemn Terrorist Attacks
http://www.muhajabah.com/otherscondemn.php

In 2005 U.S. Muslims issue fatwa against Terrorism
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8740980/ns/us_news/

In 2010 Muslim Cleric issuing a freakin FATWA against Terrorism
http://www.time.com/time/world/article/ ... 62,00.html
When speaking of fatwas we will always be reminded of Salmon Rushdie's fatwa instead of that one.

20 North American Imams Issue Fatwa Against Terrorists
http://www.theamericanmuslim.org/tam.ph ... ts/0017835
 
Muslim Voices Against Extremism and Terrorism - Part I - Fatwas
http://www.theamericanmuslim.org/tam.ph ... _i_fatwas/

Muslim outfits protest 'Sanghi' terrorism
http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/a ... 106213.ece

In 2007 German Muslims Protest Terror- Hold Rally at Saudi Embassy
http://gatewaypundit.rightnetwork.com/2 ... i-embassy/

The Muslims I've conversed with, and the ones in the "antizionist movement", and the ones on this forum, are definitely silent when it comes to Muslim crimes. Just look at how they reacted in the other thread. Immediate response to bringing up a Muslim atrocity and proving their "innocent, benevolent Islam" myth completely false, is "your a zionist, die from face cancer in hell" blah blah blah

Now does this mean majority of Muslims are like them? I wouldn't know bc I have not met 1.5 billion Muslims, however you arrogantly paint Muslims based on those incidents.

Many of the ones that come to the West are like that and are causing a lot of trouble in Europe. They're fine in small numbers but once they achieve a large presence they basically revert back to their lawless, backwards stone-age ways that they were accustomed to in the middle east and Africa.

Like in this pro-Muslim website Loonwatch.com: http://www.loonwatch.com/2010/04/south- ... ntroversy/
 
Look how the annoying author(a bit unfair, he is intelligent but still annoying for doing this) kept brushing off Mossad involvement:

In retrospect, I fear that I may have used too strong wording when I was discussing Joseph Cohen's past.  The way my article is written, it seems as if I am saying that he is really a Jew pretending to be a Muslim, and this could be used by some to promote a vast conspiracy, i.e. "it's the Mossad!"  This was not my intention, and I caution people to stay away from such conspiratorial talk.

Abdulmajid: I do not think we should jump to say that it's some grand conspiracy with him working as a double agent for the Mossad.

Nor do I believe this is some great conspiracy (i.e. the Mossad, CIA, etc.), and I strongly urge Muslims not to say such things.

 :lol:  :lol: Those Muslims are so dumb that even when Muslims ARE set-up they take credit for it !

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Just curious why you write (Muslim/non-white) and I'm not just talkin bout whites who convert to Islam I just want your line on where a person is not white anymore. Is it in Turkey or Albania or what?

Because MonkeySeeMonkeyDo and others like him try to evade the accusations of being "racist" by saying Muslims are not a race when saying things like  "Muslims are coming in hordes in Europe". I write Muslim/non-white for the WS/WSC on this forum bc to them Muslims immigrants is synonymous with brownies(bc majority of Muslims are nonwhite) forgetting about white Muslims from Turkey, Albania, and Bosnia etc. And while there are non-white Christians, the biased Christian leaning WS consider Christianity to be a part of European culture(bc predominantly white countries practice it). While white Muslims who look, dress, and behave like usual westerners(converted or not) were to pass a bunch of WS/WSC on the street, the WS  would not be able to tell the difference if he/she is a Muslim. But if a Christian brownie were to walk pass by, they'd be irritated inside. I mean look here for example what a white Christian majority group did to Arabic Christians who were protesting the psyop ground zero mosque:

The height of irony probably came when two Christian Arabs who came to protest the mosque were mistaken for being Muslims, and became targets of their fellow protesters bigotry and harassment.

http://www.loonwatch.com/2010/06/nyc-mo ... hate-fest/

But to majority of WS/WSC Islam/Muslims(whether white or not) represents anti-European aspects. Once a white person dons the hijab or long beard wearing thobe/egal he/she no longer is considered a proper European/white person. Just look at this thread on Stormfront:  http://www.stormfront.org/forum/t677673/

As to when do I think a person is not white anymore? Again the white/Christian and Muslim/non-white pairings I did in this thread were for the people who think those paired terms are almost synonymous. And I do not consider many of the white looking people in Asia to be full blown white, as in "pure " European(many white Europeans are also not pure, but  obviously the Asian whites are more likely to be not pure than the European whites). Most WS do not consider Asian whites to be white(Jews look white but WS and I both do not consider them white, bc they are mixed)unless they are Pan Aryanists. And honestly I have more respect for the full blown racist aryanists who speak of white superiority than those pan aryans who think they are being more humane by allowing the Asian whites in the white superiority club.

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Why do you describe Muslims as non-white? Are Muslims from Germany White? Are Turkish Muslims White? Are Syrian Muslims White( I know full-blooded Syrians who are Blond-haired blue-eyed), I know the media and Hollywood show Muslims as Dark-skinned with beards and make all muslims look like Pakistanis but the fact is that Arabians are considered Caucasian and have no genetic racial connection to ppl from India or Pakistan or any non Arab Asian countries.

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Hmm, I'm going to have to disagree with pretty much everything you wrote there.

Other than that I appreciate you stating facts and being real. And most importantly I thank u for helping get that giant stick out of Monkey Poop's butt.

No problem . The thing is I do the same thing for white people or Christians when I hear some Jew or biased annoying atheist blaming only Christians for all the God sanctioned genocides in the "Christian bible" when its also the same crap in the Hebrew Bible but Jews get a free pass as usual. I mean the tanakh  did come first not the Christian bible, the Jews are the ones who started all those "God ordered" criminal acts. Many of those sick violent passages were all originally thought by some deranged Jew who wanted to justify countless genocides by making shit up about his imaginary God saying its ok to do so...just like taking Israel is justified by their "God given" rights. What's funny is I've even heard atheist Jews use that line to defend Israel...desperate times call for desperate lies. :lol:  

And my intention was not to get anything out of anyone's rear, just give a taste of Monkey's own medicine.

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Another cheapshot you piece of shit. You have no arguments based in logic so you go to nitwit character "assessments" as a staple of your "rebuttals". Ultra Jewey.

"Cheap shot" says the person who is calling me a piece of shit :lol: . Uh let me refresh your memory you were the first to character assassinate me with you assuming I was going the "kill whitey" path or not caring about the white working class by talking against WS. And sorry for doubting the genuine care for the plight of the Palestinians/Iraqis, Afghans/Pakistanis from WS people here, its just that topics trashing shills like Alex Jones get more hits than the topics appealing the help for the people in the Middle East.

I'm a true blue anti zio from the Alex Jones camp. Check my post history instead of making false assumptions. Also, why are you arguing with WN's all of the time? You obviously have some kind of deep seated hatred for white interests...oops, I was just acting like an obnoxious Jew trying to diagnose "Whats" mental illness...kinda like "What" does.

My dear I do not argue with WNs all the time... I argue with Jews, Zionists, stupid atheists, anti white people, Islamophobics, non-white racists just as much. And as for your assumption that I have some "seated hatred for white interests" again thou doth protest too much. My posts were against white supremacists/white supremacist Christians, while you keep saying you're not a WS/WN but your illogical anger says otherwise...if you're not WN/WS why bother responding to my posts that are not directed towards a non WS/WN like yourself? The fact that you're convoluting the interests of the general white population with that of WS/WSC is very telling.

I hope you die lonely in a nursing home choking on a hungry-man TV dinner while watching Matlock.

Wait, they still show Matlock? And you just ruined Monkey having the upper hand of having non-ape shit people on his side:

Monkey, I know you're a good guy. Very intelligent and talented, but sometimes you just go ape shit...no pun intented. I remember that blow out you had with those anti American threads as well...hopefully this is just another phase.

 :wtf: I haven't gone ape shit at all. In fact I've stayed quite calm amidst Muslims wishing death and disfigurement upon me

talk about going apeshit  :lol:  :lol:
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MSMD, I got you. There was another C**T who posted very similar anti-Islamic posts like yours using a very similar language, I thought maybe coincidence but you are using the same images as him.... Hmmm. And on a post which has nothing to do with Islam you are mocking Islam again. You are trouble, and want to start a conflict. You are a despicable person without any scruples. It is clear what you are. Because of your unprovoked mockery I pray you die from a painful disfiguring face cancer, that way your face will resemble your wicked heart. GO TO HELL!

Travis is to Monkey as Whaler is to What...in terms of wishing someone ill. But at least with Travis, he responded with anger in response to 2 unprovoked anti-Muslim/Islam topics and 1 unprovoked anti-Muslim/Islam post in an Islam-irrelevant topic.

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But at least with Travis, he responded with anger in response to 2 unprovoked anti-Muslim/Islam topics and 1 unprovoked anti-Muslim/Islam post in an Islam-irrelevant topic.

How were those threads "unprovoked anti-Muslim/Islam" ? They were factual.

Islam is rooted in Arabic culture, it's an anti-European ideology as evidenced by its attempt to conquer, slaughter, pillage and enslave Europeans and Christians the minute it was created.

Islamists call us infidels, dhimmis and kaffirs. They want to conquer and rule us just like their Talmudic counterparts. Both have no place in Western societies.

There was a similar debate about this stuff before. http://theinfounderground.com/forum/vie ... 25&t=10895
An Islamic fundamentalist was here "hatin' on whitey", ranting on about white colonialism, slavery and racism, while at the same time tried to glorify the Islamic Caliphate, Ottoman Empire, Islamic Spain and other genocidal Muslim conquests, like most Muslims do. There was another Muslim in there who tried to do the same. I think the "cracka's" clearly won that debate.  

Khanverse didn't bother responding to this

umm, history tells a completely different story. first of all, the american colonies were started by the british by kidnapping and enslaving millions of irish and scottish. history euphemistically calls them "indentured servants" but over 90 percent of them never attained freedom. second, it was tribal leaders in africa who sold african slaves to JEWISH slave traders. third, the only reason african slaves became popular was because they were bigger, stronger and more compliant. irish and scottish slaves were smaller, but also rebelled every chance they got. not to mention they blended into a white society easier than an african. fourth, the divide in the old south was between classes more than race. race only really became an issue in the jewish buildup to the civil war. there were white slaves in the south, and there were black slave owners. THAT is a fact. there may have been many more white slave owners than black, but the fact remains. we are taught that white slave owners raped their slaves to produce the large racial mixture in this country between blacks and whites, but the fact is that the poor whites and white slaves intermarried with the black slaves and the poor blacks.

institutionalized racism is set apart from normal everyday racism. everyone is racist to one degree or another--but not everyone hates another for the color of their skin. the history of western civilization is replete with white societies being slaughtered and enslaved. blacks have no special, let alone sole, claim to suffering and indignity. african tribes oppressed, slaughtered and subjugated other african tribes. american indian tribes subjugated and conquered other tribes, then got conquered. arabs have a bloody history to match the rest.

in the same post you say "they are followed by the arrogant and evil white implementers, not arrogant evil black implementers or arab implementers." then you say "I generalize like everyone else in the world too but I don't attribute evil to any race more than any other." I'd say one of those quotes cancels out the other.

blacks have had a hard time in this country, there's no doubt. but I strongly disagree that any person, of any color, is responsible for something another person of their "race" did or did not do. we can only answer for ourselves, and that goes for blacks too...

Or this...

I can name two black civilizations that enslaved, raped, pillaged, bred and sold white people. ever heard of the Moors? what about the Carthaginians? those are two black empires that invaded europe and did all that nasty stuff to white people. admittedly, they didn't call the Gauls or Romans "crackas," but hey--you yourself said words aren't important...

I live in los angeles, and I'm telling you right now--growing up here, I've been called a honky, cracker, gringo, whiteboy, and any number of other racial epithets far more times in my life than any black man of my generation who grew up in LA has ever been called nigger. period. end of story. needless to say, I got in lots of fist fights as a kid...

as far as institutionalized racism is concerned, I don't see endless white comedians making fun of blacks, but I do see endless black comedians making fun of whites. paul mooney is one example. I don't see the news reporting on the unbalanced statistics of black on white crime, or hispanic on white crime. but I do see the media reporting on every little incident in which a white person is involved, which can possibly be construed as racist towards minorities. I saw the media reporting for years on the Duke university "gang rape," accusing upstanding white college kids of raping and belittling this black prostitute, when it turns out she made the whole fucking thing up. but I don't see the media reporting on the fifty black men who rampaged through a cleveland suburb after obongo was selected and attacked a white family who were simply in their front yard. see where I'm going with this? there are quotas in universities and colleges specifically to keep white people out, not anyone else. there are quotas in government jobs to keep white people out. since affirmative action, if there is any institutionalized racism, it is towards whites, not blacks. of course, blacks have a deeper pit to dig themselves out of than whites, given their social stigma, but they were helped out, and still are helped out by the government (our taxes) more than any other race in this country. what did affirmative action result in? now there is over 70 percent single parent family rates among blacks, where the man impregnates a girl, then beats feet out the door. before the 1960's, those statistics were reversed. no other race has those kind of statistics, and no other race has been given such specific priority with welfare and other social programs. is there not a correlation? black crime figures have risen since the "civil rights movement" (zionist infiltration movement), so it obviously has not fixed anything. I'm not saying blacks are incapable of managing their own affairs--I'm saying the more help you give someone, the more help they need.

I am not a "white supremacist" at all, or even a white separatist. but they have every right to their opinions. I just like to keep the record straight. all races have suffered horribly at the hands of other races. the blacks in this country have been given many hands up, and to be honest, they should have just been left alone, to take responsibility for their own future. the more they are coddled with social programs, the less likely it will be that they ever rise out of their cultural mire.

[What]

Why do you keep bringing up Pamela Geller? Who cares what Pamela Geller is saying. She's a Jew and Neo-Con. I haven't linked anything back to "atlas shrugs". She is indeed a bullshit artist.

To point out things you have in common with each other.
Why do you keep bringing up those pics from that England protest with crazy Muslim bullshit artists, one of whom held a sign like this:


I mean think for a sec here, which group have been using the holocaust as the ultimate appeal to emotion manipulation to paint people as the enemy for the last decades? Which group of people have pretended and still pretend to be Muslims/Arabs then do shitty things then blame it on the Muslims/Arabs?  Come on MSMD, you are more of an expert on this than most here(King David, Lavon Affair, 911, 7/7, Madrid bombings, Revolution Muslim, Adam Pearlman). How convenient that lady just happens to be donning the niqab and many of the men covering their faces, perfect for hiding identities. Why can't you consider those are patsies, crypto Jews? Because you see the same protests by Muslims elsewhere? Show me other protests where Muslims are holding placards for world domination. Sure Muslims have gathered many times angrily protesting Western involvement in their fellow Muslims' countries ...but I completely support this and their anger is more than justified bc I'm also angry at the Western and Middle Eastern Jewish/American controlled puppets for screwing Muslims/Middle Easterners/ Europeans/people in general worldwide.  I give props to many Arabs/Muslims for telling it like it is about Jews, openly declaring to kick Jews out without fearing the accusation of "antisemite" in this post-holocaust era by not giving into pity. Countless European countries have done the same and even kicked out Jews without fear of being called antisemite...but it was pre-holocaust(This holocaust weapon is the most useful to use against Europeans/whites collectively when theoretically only Germans should feel guilty. This has obviously been the most useful tool to stifle criticism of Jewry modern day. So I hope more whites can be brave enough to tell people to STFU about the holocaust).

How is that apologetic? How many White Gentiles were involved in the trans Atlantic slave trade? How many Jews were involved? How many blacks were involved?

Evading and changing/diverting attention of the topic to the same actions done by others is apologetic or brushing off as less insignificant imo(just like when Muslims divert and blame whitey for killing Muslims in Iraq, Afghanistan when Muslims are blamed for their hostile behavior in European countries). And I mean you're trying to convince me of things I already know. These are the same things I tell others when they forget to mention Jewish/black involvement and only emphasize white guilt.

Qur'an (3:169-170) - "Think not of those who are slain in Allah's way as dead. Nay, they live, finding their sustenance in the presence of their Lord; They rejoice in the bounty provided by Allah: And with regard to those left behind, who have not yet joined them (in their bliss), the (Martyrs) glory in the fact that on them is no fear, nor have they (cause to) grieve."

You keep giving me Quran quotes, but I can do the same for the bible. Do you really want to continue playing this game?

As for witch burnings. Granted there are nut-jobs in every religion and Christians have indeed done horrible things in the name of Christianity and probably used the bible to justify violent acts ... in the middle ages. The Christians have a New Testament which has drastically toned down the violent rhetoric and you won't see them running around cutting peoples heads off shouting "Praise God!" in place of "Allah Akbar!". Muslims are still using the same old Koran as before.

Ah yes, the good ol Zionist Christian Islamophobic "you won't see modern day Christians taking the Bible literally like Muslims do with the Quran". You're right I have not seen Christians beheading anyone praising God, Muslims are just lucky enough to always conveniently have someone videotaping their atrocious activities(not suspicious at all). But I am aware of the following:
-Millions of Christian Zionists support the killings of Muslims by supporting the fake war on Terror and Israel as a Christian crusade against Infidel Muslims and bring about the end times which will punish everyone except Christians.

- "African Children Denounced As "Witches" By Christian Pastors

...Nwanaokwo Edet was one of an increasing number of children in Africa accused of witchcraft by pastors and then tortured or killed, often by family members. Pastors were involved in half of 200 cases of "witch children" reviewed by the AP, and 13 churches were named in the case files. [Exodus, 22:18]

...The idea of witchcraft is hardly new, but it has taken on new life recently partly because of a rapid growth in evangelical Christianity. Campaigners against the practice say around 15,000 children have been accused in two of Nigeria's 36 states over the past decade and around 1,000 have been murdered. In the past month alone, three Nigerian children accused of witchcraft were killed and another three were set on fire.

Nigeria is one of the heartlands of abuse, but hardly the only one: the United Nations Children's Fund says tens of thousands of children have been targeted throughout Africa.

http://www.loonwatch.com/2010/04/witch-hunts/

-African Pastors torture and murder "witch children"
http://www.loonwatch.com/2010/10/africa ... re-muslim/

-Man Married 10 Year Old and said it was Biblically Justified
http://whatiftheyweremuslim.com/2010/07 ... justified/

-GOP Senate Candidate Waging "Stealth Jihad" against the US Government
http://whatiftheyweremuslim.com/2010/06 ... overnment/

-Evangelist preacher kills wife, stuffs in freezer; What if he were Muslim?
http://whatiftheyweremuslim.com/2010/05 ... re-muslim/

-Ugly Betty Actor Slays Mom in the Name of Jesus
http://www.loonwatch.com/2010/11/ugly-b ... re-muslim/

-Spanish priest arrested with 21,000 images of child porn
http://www.loonwatch.com/2010/11/spanis ... re-muslim/

-Fischer: God Honors Those Who Inflict "Massive Casualties" Because "Christianity is Not a Religion of Pacifism" http://www.loonwatch.com/2010/11/fische ... -pacifism/

-"Christian Terrorist" Arrested for Bomb Plot
http://www.loonwatch.com/2010/09/what-i ... bomb-plot/

-Killed for Watching World Cup Instead of Gospel Show
http://www.loonwatch.com/2010/06/what-i ... spel-show/

-Church Forces Girl to Apologize After Being Raped
http://www.loonwatch.com/2010/06/church ... re-muslim/

-Ugandan Legislation Calls for Execution of Gays
http://www.loonwatch.com/2009/12/uganda ... re-muslim/

-Russians Convicted over Art Show

We hear often that Muslims object too much to art or cartoons that are offensive to their religious sensibilities. In fact, Islamophobes love to highlight Islam as some unique motivator in passing laws that ban demeaning or offensive remarks or depictions about religion.

In Russia however, two artists have been convicted and fined by authorities for artwork that depicts Jesus Christ with the head of Mickey Mouse.

http://www.loonwatch.com/2010/07/what-i ... -art-show/

-John Snyder: 'Jesus Calls for Us to be Armed'
http://whatiftheyweremuslim.com/2010/11 ... -be-armed/

-Meet the Lord's Resistance Army, Fighters for Jesus

n the last two years alone, this group of terrorists has killed about 2,000 people and displaced over 400,000 according to the United Nations. These terrorists cite the sacred scripture of a major world religion and believe they are fighting in a holy cause to overthrow infidel governments and replace them with God's law. But who are they?

If you've been watching Fox News like many Americans, the answer couldn't be easier: Muslims, of course. After all, Fox News anchor Brian Kilmeade recently proclaimed, "All terrorists are Muslims." No doubt many in the anti-Muslim blogosphere agreed with his "factual" statement (at least before he was forced to make a half-hearted pro forma apology). But if you guessed Muslims, you'd be wrong. No, these terrorists aren't fighting for Allah. They're fighting for the Lord Jesus Christ (or so they claim, but we don't think this is what Christ taught).

http://whatiftheyweremuslim.com/2010/10 ... for-jesus/

-So-called "Christian Terrorist" Arrested for Alleged Plot to Bomb a Women's Clinic

Moose also called himself the "Christian counterpart of Osama bin Laden". Said he was part of the "Army of God".

http://www.associatedcontent.com/articl ... html?cat=9


All those did not happen in the middle ages, they are all contemporary. I predict you will say most of those are happening in Africa , where regardless of religion unfortunately numerous atrocities are going on so it can't be on Christians/Christianity. If you say that I agree with you, but I'm pointing all those out bc you did not give the same pardon to the Muslim slave trade occuring in an African country, Sudan.

The point is you won't ever hear Muslims acknowledging the fact that their people have done so as well.

Holy crap dude, I just gave you a large list of Muslims condemning Muslim crimes and even taking blame for Jewish false flags. To make it clear, there can be no condemnation without acknowledgment. You have not met 1.5 billion Muslims, the minuscule Muslims you've interacted with online and offline do not represent the majority,

When you say "black slavery" you are being extremely vague. Blacks have been used as slaves by Arabs, Jews, other Blacks and Whites. Why would "black slavery" be something Whites should be particularly sensitive about? What about White slavery? Arab and Black Muslims have taken Whites as slaves and sex slaves.

First of all, straw man alert. No where did I say the general white population should be sensitive about black slavery, in fact I've said the same to other black people as well and many of them acknowledge it. I was addressing that to you bc you said I forgot to mention black slavery in a thread about equal amounts of white/white Christian crimes. There is nothing to be sensitive about and accuse whites of "being racist against blacks" bc black on black slavery the fact, just like white slavery is but you'll see WS throwing the same hissy fits and crying accusations of "hating on whitey". And there you go again with the diverting(I know about historical slavery, it was pretty prevalent around many parts of the word, in Rome, China Greece as well in pre Judaism), 2 wrongs making it right(or less insignificant) crap. Let me make the obvious more clear, my point is no group was completely innocent in the past, no group is completely innocent now, many groups were victimized in the past(specific groups were more targeted than others), but currently certain groups are victimized more than others. Again let me state, for every point you make about Muslims/Islam I can give you just as many points against Christians. You are not getting the point and are indirectly insisting Muslims/Islam's crimes are heavier than Christian ones.

So every time I say "white slavery" you must cower down, sob and tell us how sorry you are for your people doing this to us.

Circular debate. I can accuse you of the same...shall we dance more in circles?

You are the one here who can not seem to differentiate the extremists from the moderates yet you want the rest of us to differentiate between the Zionist/crazy/evangelical Christians from the moderate Christians...you did not grant Muslims/Islam the same.

Who says that page on Islamic approval of slavery was written by a Jew? You are just assuming it is. That page points out the direct verses (with footnotes) in the Koran approving of slavery and sex slavery. You can call "the source" into question all you like after you've debunked what they wrote as being false.

MSMD if you remember I did not deny this, in fact I've said this:
[quote"What"]And yes those Muslims, Christians and Jews who deny what is in their books are extremely annoying. Slavery is in all three books so they need to stop denying it.[/quote]

And it is not assuming  when I say Islamic approval of slavery was written by a Jew. If you acknowledge the fact that Abraham was a crazy Jew who tried to kill his to please his God and marry his concubine to have a kid, then you must acknowledge the common prophets Judaism, Christianity, and Islam share all originate from the Hebrew bible bc it came before the Christian bible and the Quran.  Slavery was and is ok in Judaism as it is in Christianity. Christianity and Islam is just slightly improved/changed/abrogated plagiarism of the Hebrew bible so technically if they copied shit from Hebrew bible then it was a ok first by the Jew. Otherwise explain why Christians are ok with the God sanctioned genocides in the bible? New Testament or not they did not burn the Old Testament did they? It is a part of the Christian bible, there would be no New Testament w/o the Old obviously, so those violent ridden passages are still held in esteem by them.

It's clear that you do believe much of what Jewish historians say about Whites with regards to black slavery and Germans/Holocaust.

No I do not, don't act like you didn't understand that I was giving the equivalent of what you wrote about Muslims going back to negev desert.

:lol: :lol: Those Muslims are so dumb that even when Muslims ARE set-up they take credit for it !

 :lol: Yes very annoying.

Well I don't know about you but I'm tired of going in circles. Our debate could pretty much be summed up as:
"you did this"
"nah uh, you guys did it too"

 

[What]

How were those threads "unprovoked anti-Muslim/Islam" ? They were factual.

Factual or not, it is strange that someone is posting back to back anti-Muslim/Islam threads in a Anti-Zionist forum. You clearly have a white separatist agenda, which is fine but keep in mind this is not Stormfront, all of us here are not WN.  When you unnecessarily bring up an irrelevant comment about Muslim/Islamic crazies in a thread about Europeans being indigenous to North America...it is unprovoked.

viewtopic.php?f=4&t=13868

You'd protest if someone randomly said "It's a good thing these animals were not invaded by white Christians, could you imagine how worse it would've been?" in a thread about Japanese dolphin cruelty.

Islam is rooted in Arabic culture, it's an anti-European ideology as evidenced by its attempt to conquer, slaughter, pillage and enslave Europeans and Christians the minute it was created.

As opposed to Christianity being rooted in Norwegian European culture right :lol: ? Remember Bethlehem? Not in Europe sorry. If Islam is "an anti-European ideology as evidenced by its attempt to conquer, slaughter, pillage and enslave Europeans and Christians the minute it was created then I have to say Europeans and Christians themselves have been very anti-European by once conquering, slaughtering, pillaging and enslaving their fellow Europeans and Christians.

Islamists call us infidels, dhimmis and kaffirs. They want to conquer and rule us just like their Talmudic counterparts. Both have no place in Western societies.

And Christians call Muslims/us non Christians infidels as well, especially the English speaking west since infidel is an English word :lol: but kaffir is correct .

infidel
The Oxford Pocket Dictionary of Current English | 2006 | © The Oxford Pocket Dictionary of Current English 2009, originally published by Oxford University Press 2009. (Hide copyright information) Copyright

in·fi·del / ˈinfədl; -ˌdel/ • n. chiefly archaic a person who does not believe in religion or who adheres to a religion other than one's own: [as pl. n.] (the infidel) they wanted to secure the Holy Places from the infidel. • adj. adhering to a religion other than one's own: the infidel foe. ORIGIN: late 15th cent.: from French infidèle or Latin infidelis, from in- 'not' + fidelis 'faithful' (from fides 'faith,' related to fidere 'to trust'). The word originally denoted a person of a religion other than one's own, specifically a Muslim (to a Christian), a Christian (to a Muslim), or a Gentile (to a Jew).

http://www.encyclopedia.com/topic/infid ... fidel-full

Christians also call non believers heathens.
Jews call us goys.
Atheists call Christians christfags and Muslim Muslimfags.
Everyone calls each other cracker, spic, nigger, sand nigger, gandhi, wop, paki, chink, gypsie etc.
They must be all out to conquer the world! We know who is succeeding in conquering the world at this point at time, the Jews and their Christian and or white shabbos goys. Western societies have a history of conquering other lands and have takin over the world a couple of times...has it changed much to this day? No. How many Muslims are a part of the elites in the most powerful countries in the world? How many in USA? You are being silly. Muslims' goal is not conquering anyone, like you said many Islamic nations are backwards so how is their backwards life going to conquer the more advanced West? Currently, Muslims'  goal is to stop being killed and being demonized and harassed in the media and real life.

Nice of you to throw in buzzword dhimmi, did you learn it from Robert Spencer bc that is his favorite word.
-The Church's Doctrine of "Perpetual Servitude" was Worse than "Dhimmitude"
http://www.loonwatch.com/2009/11/the-ch ... himmitude/
-Do Muslims want to reimpose dhimmitude or live as equals?
http://www.loonwatch.com/2010/05/do-mus ... as-equals/

Debate with the experts instead of getting your info from biased sources. Peace.

[MonkeySeeMonkeyDo]

Why do you keep bringing up Pamela Geller? Who cares what Pamela Geller is saying. She's a Jew and Neo-Con. I haven't linked anything back to "atlas shrugs". She is indeed a bullshit artist.

Why do you keep bringing up those pics from that England protest with crazy Muslim bullshit artists, one of whom held a sign like this:


I mean think for a sec here, which group have been using the holocaust as the ultimate appeal to emotion manipulation to paint people as the enemy for the last decades? Which group of people have pretended and still pretend to be Muslims/Arabs then do shitty things then blame it on the Muslims/Arabs?  Come on MSMD, you are more of an expert on this than most here(King David, Lavon Affair, 911, 7/7, Madrid bombings, Revolution Muslim, Adam Pearlman). How convenient that lady just happens to be donning the niqab and many of the men covering their faces, perfect for hiding identities. Why can't you consider those are patsies, crypto Jews? Because you see the same protests by Muslims elsewhere? Show me other protests where Muslims are holding placards for world domination.

Do these sand critters look like "crypto-Jews" to you?






Apparently on the holiday of Ashura some PSYCHOTIC Shia Muslims like to cut and lash themselves (and their children) until they bleed profusely








More blood stained Islamic fun  :sick:  :sick:  :sick:  :sick:
http://www.google.com/images?um=1&hl=en ... =&aql=&oq=

Sure Muslims have gathered many times angrily protesting Western involvement in their fellow Muslims' countries ...but I completely support this and their anger is more than justified bc I'm also angry at the Western and Middle Eastern Jewish/American controlled puppets for screwing Muslims/Middle Easterners/ Europeans/people in general worldwide.  I give props to many Arabs/Muslims for telling it like it is about Jews, openly declaring to kick Jews out without fearing the accusation of "antisemite" in this post-holocaust era by not giving into pity. Countless European countries have done the same and even kicked out Jews without fear of being called antisemite...but it was pre-holocaust(This holocaust weapon is the most useful to use against Europeans/whites collectively when theoretically only Germans should feel guilty. This has obviously been the most useful tool to stifle criticism of Jewry modern day. So I hope more whites can be brave enough to tell people to STFU about the holocaust).

You speak of "Holocaust" as if it actually occured. Are you just not familiar with revisionism? Get yourself educated on that subject viewtopic.php?f=8&t=13362

How is that apologetic? How many White Gentiles were involved in the trans Atlantic slave trade? How many Jews were involved? How many blacks were involved?

Evading and changing/diverting attention of the topic to the same actions done by others is apologetic or brushing off as less insignificant imo(just like when Muslims divert and blame whitey for killing Muslims in Iraq, Afghanistan when Muslims are blamed for their hostile behavior in European countries). And I mean you're trying to convince me of things I already know. These are the same things I tell others when they forget to mention Jewish/black involvement and only emphasize white guilt.

White Gentiles had a very minimal role in the trans atlantic slave trade compared to Jews and Blacks themselves. Jews financed and ran the operation, blacks facilitated the capture and transfer of African slaves to the Jewish ships. White Gentiles set blacks free and were first to ABOLISH slavery. The same can't be said for blacks, jews, arabs or muslims who STILL practice slavery and sex slavery.

You are the one here who can not seem to differentiate the extremists from the moderates yet you want the rest of us to differentiate between the Zionist/crazy/evangelical Christians from the moderate Christians...you did not grant Muslims/Islam the same.

Granted there are moderate Muslims, and psychotic bat-shit insane ones. Europe seems to be getting a heck of a lot more of the latter than the former. And the latter are quickly radicalizing the former as these Jew wars continue to drag on. My point being that political and religious prejudices harboured by Muslim immigrants is putting our innocents in danger. Just another reason to oppose Muslim immigration besides the obvious cultural barriers. Islam is not compatible with western civilization. It simply isn't going to work.

[HydroMoron]

A Nigga ain't gon' take up too much space, but...

All y'all pussies be crying about who did what to who historically - y'all muhr-fuckas playing that back and forth game of Victim-Oppressor. Muslim and Christian and other religious battles have been going on for centuries. Cultural invasions etc make nations stronger.

Black slaveowners – niggas been ownin' muhr-fuckas. Shouts to my SC Niggas, shouts to my ATL Niggas: http://www.amazon.com/Black-Slaveowners ... 1570030375

Rice Niggas - Niggas been on our shit for centuries bruh: http://www.amazon.com/Black-Rice-Africa ... 0674008340

[Whaler]

"Cheap shot" says the person who is calling me a piece of shit :lol: . Uh let me refresh your memory you were the first to character assassinate me with you assuming I was going the "kill whitey" path or not caring about the white working class by talking against WS.

Yes, because you refuse to accept facts about the Jewish multi-cult agenda and continue to insinuate that I must be a "closet WS" because I acknowledge the overwhelming evidence that Jews are behind mass immigration. What don't you get about this? You are also downplaying any effect this is having on white(and black) working class people in this country...Then you accuse me of not being sincere in my concerns. :roll:

 You think I'm really just a closet racist and are afraid to just say that I hate brown people. You sound like a shrill ADL Jew with that kind of rhetoric.  

My dear I do not argue with WNs all the time..

Then why do you keep talking about WN's and WS? Your first post is filled with references to Wn's and WS's. You're calling me a "closet WS" because I point out the overwhelming evidence for muti-cult/mass immigration. Pretty sure the majority of non-whites on this forum would agree with me on this issue. You seem to be lacking the ability to admit that Jews are actively undermining western civilization by importing angry and hostile immigrants. You are still holding on to the generic Jewish historical narrative. Why? You do seem to be either ignorant of the Jewish role and desire to destroy whitey...or have a hair across your ass about whites and are stubbornly refusing to accept the Jewish plan to destabilize western civ.

My posts were against white supremacists/white supremacist Christians

Not really. Your posts attempt to paint any critics of mass immigration and multi cult as racists(idiot Jew word, why are you using it?)

if you're not WN/WS why bother responding to my posts that are not directed towards a non WS/WN like yourself? The fact that you're convoluting the interests of the general white population with that of WS/WSC is very telling.

because you are using typical Jew smear tactics. Jews love to call someone a WN because it scares away yuppies from looking into the Jewish problem. Why can't a regular anti-zio look out for white interests? Why is that evil or racist? Why does that automatically mean I want to separate myself from other races?

You sound more like this lady than a legitimate critic of Jewish power.
[youtube:3ht2t2jq]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scRwcY0i_fA[/youtube]3ht2t2jq]

[MonkeySeeMonkeyDo]

coming to a European city nearest you !

[youtube:19c9tebu]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DuNWpKShLfY[/youtube]19c9tebu]
[youtube:19c9tebu]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmcSXvBYSI8[/youtube]19c9tebu]

Starting @ 2:48 i nearly pissed my pants laughing ... don't fuck with Chuck Norris !  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
[youtube:19c9tebu]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mi1ZNEjEarw[/youtube]19c9tebu]

[What]

Do these sand critters look like "crypto-Jews" to you?

Hmm you cleverly omitted to mention the words "patsies" as well.

Is that from the same England protests? At least you're persistent. Remember there are countless Christian missionaries, not Muslim, around the world trying to convert people...indirect world domination if you think Muslims wanting to convert the Earth is world dominating oriented.

Apparently on the holiday of Ashura some PSYCHOTIC Shia Muslims like to cut and lash themselves (and their children) until they bleed profusely

Horrific indeed. I'd think WS would enjoy seeing Muslims lashing themselves lol jk .  As you said, it is Shia one sect of Islam, not Islam  in general. The thing is many Sunnis use this same example and use it as an example to show that Shias are not the "real" Muslims". And I would actually like to know if it is anywhere in the Quran where it says one must lash oneself on Ashura...I assume not otherwise majority of Muslims would be doing the same.

You speak of "Holocaust" as if it actually occured. Are you just not familiar with revisionism? Get yourself educated on that subject

 :roll: Blah blah, more presumptions. I think pretty much every TIU member is aware of the holohoax....Hitler(and yea I'm in the he was a crypto-Jew crowd...not going to debate you on it, it seems someone was banned the last time you debated on this) and the holocaust were the 2 best long-term things that happened to the Jews: defense from criticism, Israel, and prevention from being kicked out of European countries like they were numerous times pre-holocaust. Hoocaust is the gift that keeps on giving, allows them to get away with so much shit, including getting closer to world domination via 911. And I said "theoretically" Germans should feel guilty if anything as opposed to the entire white race collectively having an irrational guilt complex over the Jews and holocaust(even European countries that were not involved dare not say anything...I find it sad and funny is all).

Starting @ 2:48 i nearly pissed my pants laughing ... don't fuck with Chuck Norris !

Hollywood propaganda clown Chuck Norris...well bravo.

@2:25 I nearly pissed my pants laughing at this Hollywood propganda too  :up:  :
[youtube:sxvt2n3p]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4EfufBl1cU[/youtube]sxvt2n3p]

of the latter than the former. And the latter are quickly radicalizing the former as these Jew wars continue to drag on. My point being that political and religious prejudices harboured by Muslim immigrants is putting our innocents in danger. Just another reason to oppose Muslim immigration besides the obvious cultural barriers. Islam is not compatible with western civilization. It simply isn't going to work.

No    tell us how you really feel.

Alright alright you've made your motives abundantly clear(disingenuously but clear nonetheless)
-Muslims stay the fuck outta Europe, got that? Hmm how will I tell this to the Turks, Albanians, Bosnians and the rest of the white Muslims.
 and
:Whites are the ones who are indigenous to Europe(and apparently the Americas...or wherever WS have cognitive dissonance about giving back to the actual natives)so nonwhites stay out...but my fellow Europeans who are not indigenous to South Africa, Australia, New Zealand, USA, Canada um you can stay there if ya want(cue Whaler/other WS rewriting history telling us how whites are actually indigenous to all those areas bc their ancestors once voyaged there.)

And MSMD I recommend you get balls like bluejelly and stop being so politically correct.

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A Nigga ain't gon' take up too much space, but...

All y'all pussies be crying about who did what to who historically - y'all muhr-fuckas playing that back and forth game of Victim-Oppressor. Muslim and Christian and other religious battles have been going on for centuries. Cultural invasions etc make nations stronger.

Black slaveowners – niggas been ownin' muhr-fuckas. Shouts to my SC Niggas, shouts to my ATL Niggas: http://www.amazon.com/Black-Slaveowners ... 1570030375

Rice Niggas - Niggas been on our shit for centuries bruh: http://www.amazon.com/Black-Rice-Africa ... 0674008340

 :lol: Not completely coherent but I agree. That is basically what I wrote in my previous posts (and assumed it would be understood in my OP).

Again let me state, for every point you make about Muslims/Islam I can give you just as many points against Christians. You are not getting the point and are indirectly insisting Muslims/Islam's crimes are heavier than Christian ones.

All Russians and or white people are not like this so why should people start worrying about Muslims?  

What the West has a habit of doing is convoluting Islam with every single criminal action of people who happen to be Muslims. This is what some of the posters here are doing imo. Honor Killings has nothing to do with Islam. It is more of a culture thing than religious. Those scum who participated in the honor killing just happen to be Muslims. If we're going to associate non-Islamic actions like honor killings, clit circumcising, niqabss, suicide bombings with Muslims and Islam, then with this logic you better not have any problem when homo pedophile priests are associated with Christianity. But us civilized people understand that has nothing to do with Christianity and shouldn't convolute it with the actions of douchebag Christians like these:

And actually you kind of missed the whole point of my first post. I was not in any way trying prove how evil Christians/whites are, so you do NOT need to convince me or refute white/Christian crimes. My point was that for every Muslim/non white crime past or present you post I could give just as many Christian/white crime past or present. My point was to tell you and other WS to not paint all Muslims/Islam/non whites with the bad ones, otherwise you're being just like those anti white racist idiots who hate all whites and Christians for the past and present actions of the minority. No hatin on whitey, or hatin on Muslims.

You keep giving me Quran quotes, but I can do the same for the bible. Do you really want to continue playing this game?

Circular debate. I can accuse you of the same...shall we dance more in circles?

You are the one here who can not seem to differentiate the extremists from the moderates yet you want the rest of us to differentiate between the Zionist/crazy/evangelical Christians from the moderate Christians...you did not grant Muslims/Islam the same.

Well I don't know about you but I'm tired of going in circles. Our debate could pretty much be summed up as:
"you did this"
"nah uh, you guys did it too"

[MonkeySeeMonkeyDo]

And I would actually like to know if it is anywhere in the Quran where it says one must lash oneself on Ashura...I assume not otherwise majority of Muslims would be doing the same.

Then why the hell are they doing it? Clearly they believe they are making Mr. Allah happy by slashing gaping wounds in the foreheads of their young ones and bathing in their own blood. Sickos.

(and yea I'm in the he was a crypto-Jew crowd...not going to debate you on it, it seems someone was banned the last time you debated on this)

You wouldn't be that someone now would you ?

other WS rewriting history telling us how whites are actually indigenous to all those areas bc their ancestors once voyaged there.)

Rewriting history ... uhh ... history written by your Jewish buddies  
Or are you the first person on earth to have sorted through all of their heeping mounds of bullshit and have come to know the actual, true history of our world?

American Indians were not indigenous to North America, they came from Asia for pete sake. How many times do we have to tell you this before you get in through your head?

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My posts were against white supremacists/white supremacist Christians

Not really. Your posts attempt to paint any critics of mass immigration and multi cult as racists

"Not really" is your opinion. I'm sure there are genuinely non-racist anti-multicults but people who usually spew  "I'm not racist, I'm just against multiculturalism" are liars trying to evade the accusation of being racists. It is usually just a euphemism for multi-racialism. And people who usually say things like "Europeans were indigenous to Americas" leave me suspicious, sorry.

as racists(idiot Jew word, why are you using it?)

:crazy: I don't know if I should even counter this crap. Are you implying bc it is a Jew appeal to emotion/ debate stifling/ buzzword, the concept of racism does not exist? If so, are you ok when a bunch of non-white supremacists call all white people genetically predisposed to being scum of the Earth? Bc I sure as heck see many Jew-wise whites having called Tim Wise and Noel Ignatiev...the Jew word "racist".  Bigotry exists, if it does not,then I hope no one here will call the Jews supremacist racists. If you think its a stupid meaningless Jew word, then it should not really bother you if I say racist but here you are getting defensive.  

And here you are again using the same opposite-Jew thinking logic.
 
   

if you're not WN/WS why bother responding to my posts that are not directed towards a non WS/WN like yourself? The fact that you're convoluting the interests of the general white population with that of WS/WSC is very telling.

because you are using typical Jew smear tactics. Jews love to call someone a WN because it scares away yuppies from looking into the Jewish problem. Why can't a regular anti-zio look out for white interests? Why is that evil or racist? Why does that automatically mean I want to separate myself from other races?

Funny bc Jews usually spew Islamophobic crap to scare away yuppies from looking into the Jewish problem...but I have not seen you take offense to MSMD. Sorry to inform you, but spotting and calling out a genuine/obvious WS is not a Jew tactic. Do I really have to repeat myself again? Read carefully and slowly...my OP was for WS(their brand of anti-multiculturalism usually means anti-multiracialism and is racist).  And the rest of the crap you wrote in that quote are straw mans.

You are also downplaying any effect this is having on white(and black) working class people in this country...Then you accuse me of not being sincere in my concerns. :roll:

What a crock of shit let me remind you what I wrote:

I do have sympathy for the white working class, anyone actually that is jobless, homeless.

I happen to be a part of the struggling working class family, so spare me. Like you've said you're not WS right? Well good for you, bc concerns for the struggling working class families(regardless of race) is not what I usually hear from WS...got that? You get angry when I point out what I've observed from WS.

You're calling me a "closet WS" because I point out the overwhelming evidence for muti-cult/mass immigration.

Yes, because you refuse to accept facts about the Jewish multi-cult agenda and continue to insinuate that I must be a "closet WS" because I acknowledge the overwhelming evidence that Jews are behind mass immigration.

Uh no...I "insinuate" that you're a closet WS bc of :
-this

I wrote it as a stereotype I observed among WS, you urgently needed to tell me it was not your issue...perhaps thou doth protest too much?

-this

And as for your assumption that I have some "seated hatred for white interests" again thou doth protest too much. My posts were against white supremacists/white supremacist Christians, while you keep saying you're not a WS/WN but your illogical anger says otherwise...if you're not WN/WS why bother responding to my posts that are not directed towards a non WS/WN like yourself? The fact that you're convoluting the interests of the general white population with that of WS/WSC is very telling.

-and this

My dear I do not argue with WNs all the time..

Then why do you keep talking about WN's and WS? Your first post is filled with references to Wn's and WS's.

Again with the defensiveness with WS. Why does it bother you if my post is filled with references with WS if you are not one hmm? And holy epic facepalm on questioning why I kept talking about WS in my first post :wtf:
Ok let's break it down here. I do not go searching for WS to debate with, it is futile. It is just that I visit many anti-Zionist/Jew blogs/websites and so you are bound to be surrounded by not only disrespectful/condescending comments towards Jews  but non-whites as well by WS as evidenced in this "Anti-Zionist" forum. When I do visit these blogs/forums I'll always predictably hear some anti-white Islamophobic crap, so I don't just stay silent I respond to them. I've been silent with this forum obviously(bc debating on forums has consumed too much time in the past, thought I'd take a break) until my pent of aggression reached a boiling point by MSMD's threads. My OP was basically responding to MSMD and others like him in this forum(aka WS...MSMD did not deny this). That is why my OP was "WS" ridden...bc that was my target...simple?
But you shouldn't worry about anything, you're clearly not a WS.

Pretty sure the majority of non-whites on this forum would agree with me on this issue

Agree with you that its a Jewish agenda or that browny/white immigration should come to a halt in browny/white nations respectively or non-indigenous people eventually being deported going back to where they came from or segregated areas being setup in multicult countries or all of the above? You've not made that clear.If it is the first then this brownie non-white here agrees with you on this issue as well. Remember?

I'm very much aware of multiculturalism being a Jewish agenda, but like I said I don't have the opposite-Jew thinking mentality.

You seem to be lacking the ability to admit that Jews are actively undermining western civilization by importing angry and hostile immigrants. You are still holding on to the generic Jewish historical narrative. Why? You do seem to be either ignorant of the Jewish role and desire to destroy whitey

Holy fucking shit. I don't think I've ever had to repeat/copy/paste points already addressed this many times with anyone...ever. here, here:

d yes I'm aware of the reasons for the Mexican illegal immigrants, and the racist affirmative action, racist hate crime laws. They are all biased planning against whites.

Listen I know Jews(Tim Wise, Noel Ignative) have a hatred for whites and Christians and I always defend both when either are being unjustly insulted and refute anti white anti Christian propaganda when I see it.

.or have a hair across your ass about whites and are stubbornly refusing to accept the Jewish plan to destabilize western civ.

Well when I say Jews are itching for world domination, um Western civ is included bc um Western civ is a part of the world... unless you know something I don't?  :eh:
And Jews have already begun destabilizing the world and have already not only destabilized but exterminated millions innocent Westerners/whites. It seems its a cycle with them. Props to your tunnel vision on only mentioning the "destabilizing" western civ. Jews win we all lose.  If you want to fight multiculturalism bc you see it as one of the greatest threats to the Western civilization then fight it...but you can not impose your goals on me.

For those with the opposite-Jew/Israel thinking mentality...I've got news for ya, while only Jews are granted citizenship in Israel...it is still a multiculturalism country(and I'm not talking about Palestinian Christians and Muslims). Jews living side by side peacefully  bc they just happen to be amongst their fellow Jews while segregating the Palestinians has not exactly prevented the Jews from going at each other.(unlike what a few separatists think here). If the rest of the goys died, Jews would be fighting each other kind of like they are now with Ashkenazi vs Sephardic, Mizrahis, BlackJews /Hebrews, Kaifeng Jews and Bene Israel Indian Jews with different traditions and cultures of their own. Same with Europe, many countries with variety of different cultures with rivalries still not cooled(English vs Irish, Spain vs Catalonia, Greeks in Albania, many other separatist movements in Europe). And the term white nationalist is also another euphemism for WS. The WN term especially does not make any sense when some WS use to include all Europeans as if the white race is part of a single nation...kind of like how the Jews think they are nation. I mean the WN line works if one lives in Europe, but if a douche calls him/herself a WN in USA/Canada then that is just funny, bc you forfeit the term "nationalist" when your nation also has a large non-white population...you don't really care about you nation...only the your fellow whites in your nation...kind of contradictory.


And I think you might wanna reword the following:

You are still holding on to the generic Jewish historical narrative.

Otherwise, the Jew-wise Christians and Muslims are also still indirectly "holding on to the generic Jewish historical narrative" of the Adam/Eve/Abraham/Isaac/Job/Aaron/Moses/Solomon etc  "events"  :lol: .



For now good night.

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When I do visit these blogs/forums I'll always predictably hear some anti-white Islamophobic crap, so I don't just stay silent I respond to them.

Damn it, couldn't edit that last post.  

I meant: *anti-nonwhite*
not anti-white

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Then why the hell are they doing it? Clearly they believe they are making Mr. Allah happy by slashing gaping wounds in the foreheads of their young ones and bathing in their own blood. Sickos.

 :lol: Couldn't find it in the Quran yet huh? Actually its more in honor of mourning Muhammad's grandson Husayn than making mr Allah happy. I''ve yet to find "Thou must slash oneself...not in honor of my favorite prophet Muhammad or even me Allah the one  true Creator but for...Muhammad's grandson Husayn". lol


You were pretty silent about all this:

Ah yes, the good ol Zionist Christian Islamophobic "you won't see modern day Christians taking the Bible literally like Muslims do with the Quran". You're right I have not seen Christians beheading anyone praising God, Muslims are just lucky enough to always conveniently have someone videotaping their atrocious activities(not suspicious at all). But I am aware of the following:
-Millions of Christian Zionists support the killings of Muslims by supporting the fake war on Terror and Israel as a Christian crusade against Infidel Muslims and bring about the end times which will punish everyone except Christians.

- "African Children Denounced As "Witches" By Christian Pastors

    ...Nwanaokwo Edet was one of an increasing number of children in Africa accused of witchcraft by pastors and then tortured or killed, often by family members. Pastors were involved in half of 200 cases of "witch children" reviewed by the AP, and 13 churches were named in the case files. [Exodus, 22:18]

    ...The idea of witchcraft is hardly new, but it has taken on new life recently partly because of a rapid growth in evangelical Christianity. Campaigners against the practice say around 15,000 children have been accused in two of Nigeria's 36 states over the past decade and around 1,000 have been murdered. In the past month alone, three Nigerian children accused of witchcraft were killed and another three were set on fire.

    Nigeria is one of the heartlands of abuse, but hardly the only one: the United Nations Children's Fund says tens of thousands of children have been targeted throughout Africa.


http://www.loonwatch.com/2010/04/witch-hunts/

-African Pastors torture and murder "witch children"
http://www.loonwatch.com/2010/10/africa ... re-muslim/

-Man Married 10 Year Old and said it was Biblically Justified
http://whatiftheyweremuslim.com/2010/07 ... justified/

-GOP Senate Candidate Waging "Stealth Jihad" against the US Government
http://whatiftheyweremuslim.com/2010/06 ... overnment/

-Evangelist preacher kills wife, stuffs in freezer; What if he were Muslim?
http://whatiftheyweremuslim.com/2010/05 ... re-muslim/

-Ugly Betty Actor Slays Mom in the Name of Jesus
http://www.loonwatch.com/2010/11/ugly-b ... re-muslim/

-Spanish priest arrested with 21,000 images of child porn
http://www.loonwatch.com/2010/11/spanis ... re-muslim/

-Fischer: God Honors Those Who Inflict "Massive Casualties" Because "Christianity is Not a Religion of Pacifism" http://www.loonwatch.com/2010/11/fische ... -pacifism/

-"Christian Terrorist" Arrested for Bomb Plot
http://www.loonwatch.com/2010/09/what-i ... bomb-plot/

-Killed for Watching World Cup Instead of Gospel Show
http://www.loonwatch.com/2010/06/what-i ... spel-show/

-Church Forces Girl to Apologize After Being Raped
http://www.loonwatch.com/2010/06/church ... re-muslim/

-Ugandan Legislation Calls for Execution of Gays
http://www.loonwatch.com/2009/12/uganda ... re-muslim/

-Russians Convicted over Art Show

    We hear often that Muslims object too much to art or cartoons that are offensive to their religious sensibilities. In fact, Islamophobes love to highlight Islam as some unique motivator in passing laws that ban demeaning or offensive remarks or depictions about religion.

    In Russia however, two artists have been convicted and fined by authorities for artwork that depicts Jesus Christ with the head of Mickey Mouse.


http://www.loonwatch.com/2010/07/what-i ... -art-show/

-John Snyder: 'Jesus Calls for Us to be Armed'
http://whatiftheyweremuslim.com/2010/11 ... -be-armed/

-Meet the Lord's Resistance Army, Fighters for Jesus

    n the last two years alone, this group of terrorists has killed about 2,000 people and displaced over 400,000 according to the United Nations. These terrorists cite the sacred scripture of a major world religion and believe they are fighting in a holy cause to overthrow infidel governments and replace them with God's law. But who are they?

    If you've been watching Fox News like many Americans, the answer couldn't be easier: Muslims, of course. After all, Fox News anchor Brian Kilmeade recently proclaimed, "All terrorists are Muslims." No doubt many in the anti-Muslim blogosphere agreed with his "factual" statement (at least before he was forced to make a half-hearted pro forma apology). But if you guessed Muslims, you'd be wrong. No, these terrorists aren't fighting for Allah. They're fighting for the Lord Jesus Christ (or so they claim, but we don't think this is what Christ taught).


http://whatiftheyweremuslim.com/2010/10 ... for-jesus/

-So-called "Christian Terrorist" Arrested for Alleged Plot to Bomb a Women's Clinic

    Moose also called himself the "Christian counterpart of Osama bin Laden". Said he was part of the "Army of God".


http://www.associatedcontent.com/articl ... html?cat=9


All those did not happen in the middle ages, they are all contemporary. I predict you will say most of those are happening in Africa , where regardless of religion unfortunately numerous atrocities are going on so it can't be on Christians/Christianity. If you say that I agree with you, but I'm pointing all those out bc you did not give the same pardon to the Muslim slave trade occuring in an African country, Sudan.

Are those sickos trying to make mr God happy or were those actions part of some orthodox Christianity or some offshoot Christian sect?

(and yea I'm in the he was a crypto-Jew crowd...not going to debate you on it, it seems someone was banned the last time you debated on this

You wouldn't be that someone now would you ?

No it was that thirdeyewise person. memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=1653

You wouldn't be that someone who banned that person would you? You seemed the most angry in that thread against /tab and thirdeyewise but thirdeyewise was persistent and then suddenly he/she stopped posting.
viewtopic.php?p=52718
I've seen you abuse your moderator privileges before. Editing, deleting, banning others' comments/account just bc their comments don't agree with your philosophies about Nazis etc or bc they were owning you in a thread or ruining your agenda is a sneaky/shitty thing to do.

other WS rewriting history telling us how whites are actually indigenous to all those areas bc their ancestors once voyaged there.)

Rewriting history ... uhh ... history written by your Jewish buddies

Yea just like Islamophobic vitriol spread by our mutual Jewish buddies. :roll:  

Or are you the first person on earth to have sorted through all of their heeping mounds of bullshit and have come to know the actual, true history of our world?

Your anger implies you do think whites were indigenous to Canada, America, Australia, South Africa and New Zealand. Is your irrational anger emerging bc you're Canadian? And bc you're white?

American Indians were not indigenous to North America, they came from Asia for pete sake. How many times do we have to tell you this before you get in through your head?

Crappy "Jew" logic. How many times do I have to tell you this:

I've gone back and forth on this issue. technically in order for something to qualify as a "genocide" there has to be deliberate intent to wipe out a racial/religious/ethnic/cultural group, either by physical annaihilation or cultural genocide (forcing them to adapt your own culture). A case could be made for some groups of Europeans (many different ones came, British, French, Spanish, Dutch, etc) attempting cultural genocide on the so-called "native" peoples of the Americas, not physical genocide. "mexicans" as they are called today, and other central/south american peoples are mostly descendants of the Incas, Mayans and Aztecs. They were not wiped out. Amerindians living in what is now US territory and Canadian terriotry still exist. they were not wiped out.

   The fact is the "native americans" were not native to this land. They came from Asia (Siberia). I'm not using that as an excuse for what crimes were committing against them, but that's just a fact. Vast portions of the continent was uninhabited and did not belong to anyone, so nobody can claim that Europeans stole land that didn't belong to anyone in the first place.[/u] If you want to inflate the crimes of Europeans than let's look at how many times Muslims, Arabs, Mongols and other Asians have done the very same thing TO EUROPEANS nonetheless.

Of course you've gone back and forth on this topic, you're on Native American land, no one wants to be a hypocrite. Just more cognitive dissonance on your part. WS bring up the chicken or egg argument when it comes to land ownership, failing to realize that they would rip Jews apart if Jews used the same BS argument for claiming Palestinian lands. The Levant was inhabited by many tribes, before that it was probably uninhabited, so by your logic the Jews did not steal any land from the Palestinians :roll:[/b]

Then you continue with your "Jew" logic, actually even indirectly defending the Jews' claim to Israel(if that is not major cognitive dissonance(cd) then I don't know what is...you are a walking talking irony/hypocrisy/cd)):

Maybe they're right. Why are we complaining about what they did over there? You're saying it's the same as what happened to the NA's, and I'm saying it's the same as what happened to Europeans when the Mongols and Muslim barbarians came for our lands in Europe and Byzantine .. so I guess nobody has the right to complain about conquests and re-conquests. Israel is really the last true "colonial venture" going on today, so that's why people are complaining about it.

Fuck those barbaric Mongols and Muslims who did similar things like those barbaric Europeans/Christians, you seem to imply that I think the former was less horrific. I don't have the 2 wrongs make right mentality...it is just useful to give people a taste of their own medicine... and shit on their hypocrisy,double standards, agendas.

And Israel is not a "colonial venture"  :wtf: . To be a colonial venture Israel has to have a motherland from which it colonizes others. Israel is their(the Jews) (stolen)motherland. Israel is not colonizing the Palestinians, it is slowly ethnically cleansing them outta Israel.

Answer me this did you ever accuse the Jews of being land thieves? No need to answer, I'll get it straight from the horse's mouth:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=zyDplkMOaE4

0:21-0:45
" We go back to the creation of the state of Israel in 1948. It was a criminal act that this country was even formed. It was a colonial occupation and land theft from the beginning. Taken through murder, terrorism and built on the blood and ashes of the Palestinians."

Changed your mind about the whole "land theft" thing now eh :roll: .
Your freakin video includes that well known land theft map of the South African-style Palestinian bantustans.

Familiar?
From this:

Before Europeans arrived in North America, Native peoples inhabited every region. This map shows Native American tribes, culture areas, and linguistic stocks.

http://www.ushistory.org/us/1.asp

to this:



More Jew cd logic from MSMD:

Of course you've gone back and forth on this topic, you're on Native American land, no one wants to be a hypocrite. Just more cognitive dissonance on your part.

How would you know if I'm living on stolen Native American land ?  I'd have to check the history but it very well could be that NOBODY lived on the land I currently am standing on thus nothing for me to feel "bad" about.

You are on Canada yes? First Nations people did not cover where you are at? When I accused you of hypocrisy I'm pretty much saying you seem to not acknowledge or downplay European land theft and murder. As evidenced by your replies, which shifts topic by playing semantics with words others have used to describe the white/Christian deaths of the Soviet Union.

You said it was a "genocide" which most people would interpret as the Amerindians were rounded up and physically exterminated. This simply is a lie. Jews like to talk vague like that too about the Holoca$h hoping nobody will look into the details of it and find out just how unfactual, exaggerative and downright fanciful their statements are with regard to that supposed "genocide".

The fact is the "native americans" were not native to this land. They came from Asia (Siberia). Vast portions of the continent was uninhabited and did not belong to anyone, so nobody can claim that Europeans stole land that didn't belong to anyone in the first place.

Did they cover every square inch of this continent when the French and British arrived? Nope."

Are your ancestors of French or British origin? Because unlike some contradictory white nationalists, the white race is not one nation like the Jews think they are one nation.

I'll post this again, revised:
And this is for the people who think the whites are the true indigenous people of the Americas or that the Amerindians are not the real natives: at least try to sound sane like the Native Americans and not include all white people. The difference with NA claiming the Americas and whites claiming the Americas is you'll never hear NA saying "America is for ALL my fellow Asians" just bc they happen to originate from Asia. They don't consider Asians to be one race, they consider themselves to be a part of an Asian subgroup, Amerindians(and multitude of subgroups within this), and only claim ownership for their fellow NA(not every single other Asian who are from various Asian countries with no ancestral links to the original NA) . Unlike NA, when WS claim Americas they include all whites by saying "Europeans came here first". I personally abhor blind nationalism(having pride in culture, and country is good) and nationalism in general. I think it is a stronger motivator for wars than religion(don't tell this to those stupid New Atheists though). What is even worse is the WS euphemism: WN. If people label themselves as WN referring to their patriotism specifically for their own country, it makes sense. But when some WS convolute WN with all of Europe...it is ironically and hilariously similar to Jews viewing themselves as a nation regardless of being in diaspora . Some WN think white people are part of some sort of single nation when they are not. Yes you are a race but you are divided among multitude of countries and cultures. I see WS using the WN term to signify European unity/culture...lol there is no single European culture but culture(s). I feel all the WN sentiment comes from the "nothing unites people better than having common enemies" aspect of life... for the WS its the Jews and non-whites. Without Jews and non-whites you'd be at each others throats(just look at all the separatist movements in unified Europe). When a European(who actually lives in Europe) calls him/herself WN it makes much more sense than when a white labels himself a WN in mixed populated countries like :USA, Canada, Australia, South Africa, New Zealand. When the citizens of the latter call themselves "WN" they no longer are nationalists or patriot for their country, only "nationalistic" or supportive for their fellow whites. So when "Europeans are INDIGENOUS to the Americas" is said which Europeans? I mean which specific European country(ies) or region did those E1(early Europeans who are indigenous to the Americas) come from? All of them? Not likely. So it can't be for all whites and from any ol European country/regions. If anything(I don't agree with this but giving example) only the whites who originate from E1's countries/regions can lay claim to the Americas...but this would become like the Israel laws wouldn't it? The descendants of E2(European invaders who came AFTER the NA were already settled in the Americas) and  descendants of post-1700s European immigrants of Canada/America have no claim/and can not make any claim. Bc E2 and post-1700s European immigrants were definitely in the Americas AFTER black slaves and NA were in America.


If land ownership is based on which group traveled and inhabited a land the earliest, the Jews have more of a case using this dumb fuck logic than Europeans do with Americas. The WS say NA are not "native" to America bc Europeans came here first. But did those E1 stay in the Americas? No they left, just like the ancient Jews were in Israel before Arabs but then the Jews left and created a diaspora. But unlike Jews, some E1 did not stay behind in the Americas when they left for Europe. Once you leave you forfeit land ownership. Unless there is some WS unwritten code that says "finders, keepers, eternal dibs...even if we completely leave".  The WS here seem to have a hard time understanding why people are appalled by modern day diaspora Jews claiming Palestine(besides the countless crimes of humanity): Its bc the Jews left! Yes, they once inhabited this place...long ago. Only delusional arrogant supremacists think they can reclaim something once it was relinquished. Jews have the upper hand using the "finders,keepers, first dibs"" logic bc many Jews stayed behind; so they can say "we never left technically, so no relinquishment. bc many of my fellow Jews have lived in Israel for thousands of years side by side with the Arab majority even after the Jewish majority left ". Those (E2) descendants can not get away with that line bc all of E1 left(unless you want to tell me that those E1 actually stayed and were amongst NA wearing  stealth uniforms to appear invisible to NA so in the future NA make lies about NA being native.).  

WS this "finders, keepers" logic would devastate your lives if the Out of Africa theory is true(I don't believe in it either). All of humanity having common African ancestors technically gives Africans claim of the Earth.  :lol:

Let's use the "originally inhabited by no one, or vastly uninhabited, came here first" logic reversal on the WS:

Let's say one day archaeologists and anthropologists discover ancient bones of people whose genetics indicate black African origins...in Europe. The new archaeological/anthropologists finds indicate that Europe was originally uninhabited until some A1(early Africans voyagers who are indigenous to Europe) came and settled here. Then A1 left.  Then the whites came from the continent of Asia(for argument's sake) and inhabited Europe for a long time. But suddenly the whites experience their own version of the NA "foreign invasion" by the A2(Africans who invaded AFTER the white Europeans were already there) who eventually massacre, starve , give disease-ridden blankets, deprive them of their white European culture by enforcing black African culture and steal the Europeans' lands. Hundreds of years later the white European population has significantly reduced, land ownership reduced to bantustan style reservations. But after doing all of this those crimes, A2 descendants defend/downplay their ancestors' actions and land ownership/theft by saying "Africans were INDIGENOUS to Europe" due to A1 and are proud of A2 for having made Europe better than the white Europeans would have ever done.

WTF would you say to those stupid A2 descendants who use logic like that to prove being the true indigenous(by mentioning that Africans came to Europe first, and that white Europeans originate from Asia), to justify stealing land(by saying it was uninhabited after), and downplaying crimes of humanity(by saying genocide is too strong a word, like the holocaust things exaggerated/lied about)

You'd very much have the same sentiments as MSMD once had for the Palestinian lands and substitute "Palestinians" with "Europeans":
"It was a colonial occupation and land theft from the beginning. Taken through murder, terrorism and built on the blood and ashes of the Palestinians."


"It was a colonial occupation and land theft from the beginning. Taken through murder, terrorism and built on the blood and ashes of the Europeans."


Now just substitute Europeans with Native Americans.

[MonkeySeeMonkeyDo]

You wouldn't be that someone now would you ?

No it was that thirdeyewise person. http://theinfounderground.com/forum/mem ... ile&u=1653

You wouldn't be that someone who banned that person would you? You seemed the most angry in that thread against /tab and thirdeyewise but thirdeyewise was persistent and then suddenly he/she stopped posting.
http://theinfounderground.com/forum/vie ... hp?p=52718
I've seen you abuse your moderator privileges before. Editing, deleting, banning others' comments/account just bc their comments don't agree with your philosophies about Nazis etc or bc they were owning you in a thread or ruining your agenda is a sneaky/shitty thing to do.

Ahh, so you must be a "disgruntled" former poster huh.
who picks the username of "What", sits around for 6 months lurking and then randomly decides to come here to immediately start hardcore trolling ? Uhh, that would be anarchore.  :lol: I knew anarchore would make his return but I didn't think it would be this sloppy. :lol: :clap:

[Whaler]

I'll post this again, revised:
And this is for the people who think the whites are the true indigenous people of the Americas or that the Amerindians are not the real natives: at least try to sound sane like the Native Americans and not include all white people. The difference with NA claiming the Americas and whites claiming the Americas is you'll never hear NA saying "America is for ALL my fellow Asians" just bc they happen to originate from Asia. They don't consider Asians to be one race, they consider themselves to be a part of an Asian subgroup, Amerindians(and multitude of subgroups within this), and only claim ownership for their fellow NA(not every single other Asian who are from various Asian countries with no ancestral links to the original NA) . Unlike NA, when WS claim Americas they include all whites by saying "Europeans came here first". I personally abhor blind nationalism(having pride in culture, and country is good) and nationalism in general. I think it is a stronger motivator for wars than religion(don't tell this to those stupid New Atheists though). What is even worse is the WS euphemism: WN. If people label themselves as WN referring to their patriotism specifically for their own country, it makes sense. But when some WS convolute WN with all of Europe...it is ironically and hilariously similar to Jews viewing themselves as a nation regardless of being in diaspora . Some WN think white people are part of some sort of single nation when they are not. Yes you are a race but you are divided among multitude of countries and cultures. I see WS using the WN term to signify European unity/culture...lol there is no single European culture but culture(s). I feel all the WN sentiment comes from the "nothing unites people better than having common enemies" aspect of life... for the WS its the Jews and non-whites. Without Jews and non-whites you'd be at each others throats(just look at all the separatist movements in unified Europe). When a European(who actually lives in Europe) calls him/herself WN it makes much more sense than when a white labels himself a WN in mixed populated countries like :USA, Canada, Australia, South Africa, New Zealand. When the citizens of the latter call themselves "WN" they no longer are nationalists or patriot for their country, only "nationalistic" or supportive for their fellow whites. So when "Europeans are INDIGENOUS to the Americas" is said which Europeans? I mean which specific European country(ies) or region did those E1(early Europeans who are indigenous to the Americas) come from? All of them? Not likely. So it can't be for all whites and from any ol European country/regions. If anything(I don't agree with this but giving example) only the whites who originate from E1's countries/regions can lay claim to the Americas...but this would become like the Israel laws wouldn't it? The descendants of E2(European invaders who came AFTER the NA were already settled in the Americas) and descendants of post-1700s European immigrants of Canada/America have no claim/and can not make any claim. Bc E2 and post-1700s European immigrants were definitely in the Americas AFTER black slaves and NA were in America.

A bit longwinded eh?  

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Native_Ame ... ted_States

Native Americans in the United States are the indigenous peoples in North America within the boundaries of the present-day continental United States, parts of Alaska, and the island state of Hawaii. They are composed of numerous, distinct tribes, states, and ethnic groups, many of which survive as intact political communities. The terms used to refer to Native Americans are controversial; according to a 1995 US Census Bureau set of home interviews, most of the respondents with an expressed preference refer to themselves as American Indians or Indians.

Right,so since the native Americans are not a monolithic racial and ethnic group, they have no right to unify and identify themselves as a Race Group. Using your logic, A Cherokee Indian is full of shit when he thinks he is part of a bigger culture/race group...You should go start a thread on the hypocritical Indians...doubt that's gonna happen.

Also don't forget to mention(like you did with European Countries) how tribes were constantly at each others throats before the white devil came...

Include this in your thread:

Written by What. edited by Whaler

I see NA's using the term to signify Native American unity/culture...lol there is no single Native American culture but culture(s). I feel all the NA sentiment comes from the "nothing unites people better than having common enemies" aspect of life... for the NA's its the whites. Without whites you'd be at each others throats.

Let's say one day archaeologists and anthropologists discover ancient bones of people whose genetics indicate black African origins...in Europe.

That hasn't happened though has it?  File that one in the fantasy land strawman cabinet. Not the same as finding multiple skeletons and remains of an established white European culture in North America way before the Indians arrived. Sorry, that's just the facts of it. Yeah I know it sucks, kinda throws a monkey wrench into your world view...might have to re-examine other areas that you assume to be correct.


I think it's important to bring up...I'm not supporting that Whites take up a belligerent stance to Indian claims to the land...That's kinda retarded and not worth it. I do wish though, that non whites would stop with the guilt trips. Jews obviously use this tactic on whites...Just as they use other specific tactics for dominating different goyim races. If you are a non-white anti-zio, you should be looking for ways to combat this sneaky Jew tactic of "making whitey feel guilty"...not parroting ant-white propaganda and yapping at whites like rabid chihuahuas.