List of Holocaust Deniers

[Fester]

I'm wondering about the number and names of those who've been jailed/fined/murdered for questioning the Holler.  The following is what I pulled from the Dickypedia, but I'm sure I read about a Dutch academic who was done for handing out factual info.  Thanks.

Laws against Holocaust denial have been enforced in most jurisdictions that have them. Notable convictions and sentencings to November 2009 include:

    Date                     Name               Country          Sentence
1. (various)         Jean-Marie Le Pen     France, Germany       fines
2. Feb. 27, 1998     Roger Garaudy                  France       imprisonment (suspended), ₣240,000 fine
3. Jul. 21, 1998      Jürgen Graf                  Switzerland           15 months (fled Switzerland to avoid sentence)
4. Jul. 21, 1998      Gerhard Förster               Switzerland           12 months imprisonment, disgorgement
5. May 27, 1999      Jean Plantin            France       6 months imprisonment (suspended), fine, damages
6. Apr. 11, 2000  Gaston-Armand Amaudruz   Switzerland            1 year imprisonment, damages
7. Feb. 20, 2006    David Irving            Austria       1 year imprisonment
8. Mar. 15, 2006    Germar Rudolf                 Germany       2½ years imprisonment
9. Oct. 3, 2006            Robert Faurisson         France       €7,500 fine, 3 months probation
10. Feb. 15, 2007    Ernst Zündel            Germany       5 years imprisonment (+2 in Canda)
11. Jan. 14, 2008    Wolfgang Fröhlich         Austria       6½ years imprisonment
12. Jan. 15, 2008    Sylvia Stolz*           Germany       3½ years imprisonment
13. Mar. 11, 2009    Horst Mahler           Germany       5 years imprisonment
14. Oct. 23, 2009    Dirk Zimmerman        Germany       9 months imprisonment
15. Oct. 27, 2009    Richard Williamson        Germany       €12,000 fine   

* defense lawyer

[Fester]

A couple of more:

UK
Dr Nicholas Kollerstrom, a respected astronomer and author, is the latest scientist to discover the limits of academic freedom in the Western world. Until recently Dr Kollerstrom was an honorary fellow of University College London. His views as a science historian were sought by scientific journals and media organisations, such as the BBC in its report on new research concerning the planet Neptune. Yet on 22nd April University College (UCL) abruptly terminated his fellowship, without any consultation or right of appeal. Dr Kollerstrom's offence was to have published sceptical views about forensic aspects of the "Holocaust" on the CODOH website, based in America.
http://www.tellingfilms.netne.net/kollerstrom.htm

Netherlands
Conviction for Holocaust Denial on Website
http://merlin.obs.coe.int/iris/2005/2/article35.en.html

Dorien Verhulst - Institute for Information Law (IViR), University of Amsterdam

On 21 December 2004, the Rechtbank `s Hertogenbosch (the District Court of `s Hertogenbosch) convicted a person (hereinafter referred to as "J") to suspended sentence of imprisonment for four weeks (with a probation period of two years) for having deliberately insulted Jews over the internet. J. had created a web-site on which he had put several texts denying that the holocaust ever occurred. He had also created links to other texts, one of which was a full-text version of a book entitled "Did six million people really die?", written by Richard E. Harwood. Furthermore, he had translated several chapters of this book into Dutch and had made these translations available on his web-site. On the basis of Article 137 of the Wetboek van Strafrecht (the Dutch Criminal Code), J. was prosecuted for having incited hatred of, discrimination and/or violence against persons (in casu Jews), for having made intentional defamatory statements about Jews and for having made public statements which he knew or should have reasonably suspected to be offensive to Jews (respectively Article 137d, 137c and 137e of the Dutch Criminal Code). The Court did not consider the allegation of incitement to hatred of Jews as such to be proven. Faced with the alternative allegation of having made defamatory statements, J. relied upon the right of freedom of expression included in Article 10 ECHR by arguing that he did not have the intention to insult people, but only to participate in the public debate about Jews, Palestine, the holocaust and revisionism. The Court dismissed this argument by judging that the statements were both by their nature and in their context needlessly grievous. They could not be considered as statements with no other purpose than participating in the public debate about a social or historical issue. Therefore, the Court convicted J. for having intentionally made defamatory statements about Jews. In determining the sentence, the Court took into account the fact that J. had not yet been convicted for any offence and that he had removed the web-site immediately after the police pointed out the offence to him.
References ■    Rechtbank `s Hertogenbosch, 21.12.2004, LJN No: AR7891

[rmstock]

Are you on a fast-track course at Mossad training school at Henzelia, near Tel Aviv
in order to become the new Siemon Wiesenthal, where they, through lack of Nazi's in the wild,
have decided to start hunting down holocaust truth tellers?

Robert
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Robert M. Stockmann - RHCE
Network Engineer - UNIX/Linux Specialist
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[Fester]

The Thread title probably should have been Martyrs for "Holocaust" Truth or something.  I find the fact that discussion is criminal a favorite talking point and an attention getter.  Thought the wikilist was probably not the entire truth and was hoping for some leads.

[abduLMaria]

this is a fascinating example of indoctrination.

i do not deny that approx. 200,000 Jewish people died in German camps during WW2.

however, since i question the official # of 6 million, i would be considered a "Holocaust Denier".

even my own family would call me a "Holocaust Denier" if they heard me question the 6 million number - even though the official count has been reduced to 3.5 million ... they just haven't bothered to update all the history books ... the 6 million number is useful for political purposes.

"OOOOOHHH ... you're a Holocaust Denier ... BAD" ~ the knee jerk response that results from Zionist manipulation of American & European education & media ... when all you're doing is questioning an "official number".

the Joos have sure done a job on people's minds.

[Fester]

Folks, I'm a "holocaust denier"  and deny it publicly as often as I can.  Thought that was obvious.  I'll see if I can edit the original title so you guys knees stop twitchin'.  Again, I suspect that there are others who've been jailed/murdered.  I think it's an excellent talking point as most people have no idea that the Holler requires legal protection and is the only fuckin' topic on the planet to require it.

Thanks in advance for any additions to the list.

[mchawe]

4. Jul. 21, 1998 Gerhard Förster Switzerland 12 months imprisonment, disgorgement

Sounds horrific !
 Anyone know what this meant ("disgorgement") ?

[mchawe]

Another thing we should shun their terminology, thereby putting ourselves on THEIR battlefield.
I am not a holocaust denier. I do not deny the holocaust that was Dresden or Nagasaki or Hiroshima.
Or the holocaust perpetrated by these people

SOVIET GOVERNMENT 1919

1.   The High Commissaries of the People as in 1919
              ALIAS............................REAL NAME                  
              Lenin .............................Oulianoff ..........Russian of Jewish Mother
              Trotsky............................Bronstein .................Jew
              Stekloff ...........................Xachamress ............. Jew
               Marloff...........................Zederbaum................Jew
               Gottsief ...........................Prapkine..................Jew
               Kameneff..........................Rosenfeld.................Jew      
               Soukhanoff........................Grimmer...............   Jew
               Lagesky............................Krachmann...............Jew
               Bogdanoff ........................Silberstein ................Jew
               Goreff..............................Goldmann..................Jew
               Ouritsky...........................Radomselsky..............Jew
               Voladarsky........................Kohen......................Jew
               Sverdloff ..........................Sverdloff...................Jew
                Kamkoff ..........................Katz ........................Jew
                Gattesky...........................Eurstenberg................Jew
                 Dann..............................Gourevitch.................Jew
                Meshkovsky.......................Goldberg..................Jew
                Parvus...........................   Gelphanat..................Jew
                Rossanoff..........................Goldenbach...............Jew
                Martinoff...........................Zimbar......................Jew
                Tehernomovsky...............Tehernomokdich.........Jew
                Pialnitzky...........................Levine.....................Jew
                Adromovitch ......................Rein........................Jew
                Lointzeff............................Blechmann...............Jew
                 Zvezditch...........................Fonstein...................Jew
                 Radek..............................Sobelson................... Jew
                 Litvinoff-Wallak..................Finkelstein................Jew
                 Lunatcharsky......................Lunatcharsky.............Russian
                 Kolontai............................Kolontai...................Russian
                  Peters..............................Peters.......................Lett
                  Macklakowsky................... Rosenblum.................Jew
                  Lapinsky........................... Levenson..................Jew
                  Vobroff..............................Natanson..................Jew
                 Ostodoks............................Akselrode..................Jew
                  Gasine..............................Gerfeldt.....................Jew
                 Glasounoff........................   Schulze.....................Jew
                 Lebedieva...........................Limso........................Jew
                 Joffe...................................Joffe........................Jew
                 Kamensky...........................Hoffmann...................Jew
                 Naout................................Gunsbourg...................Jew
                 Lagorsky.............................Krachmalnik...............Jew
                 Isgoeff...............................Goldmann...................Jew
                 Valdimiroff..........................Feldmann...................Jew
                 Bounakoff...........................Foundaminsky.............Jew
                 Manouilsky..........................Manouilsky.................Jew
                  Larine................................. Lourie.....................Jew
                     Krassin................................Krassin......................Russian
                     Tchitcherin...........................Tchitcherin................Russian
                     Goukovsky...........................Goukovsky.................Russian

Soviet Bureacracy.
Summary.......................................Members..................... Jews
Council of Peoples Commissaries...............22............................17
Provincial Commissaries............................23............................21
Commissariat of War..................................43............................33
Commissariat of Foreign Affairs.................16............................13    
Finance........................................................30............................24
Justice..........................................................21............................20
Public Instruction.........................................53............................42
Social Assistance...........................................6.............................6
Labour............................................................8..............................7

545 Member Bolshevist Administration comprised  447   Jews

I simply deny that a single Jew was deliberately gassed during WW2[/size]
Unfortunately, it won't do me any good in a German or French court....YET !

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At first, I  think that holocaust is not the right word when speaking of it, better if we go away from their own zion chosen word for this matter, i e genocide applies better when discussing the mass murder of people as a huge crime & phenomen, i e the ukrainian genocide and so on. In the case of WW2 and Germany it was really about labour/Concentration camps, on the other hand,  in the Soviet JEWnion, Siberia ment  Extermination by hard labour, extreme weather and Starvation. Words matter, It is language that provides the key tool to step outside of their Spells/Stygma/Taboo/Demonization.



Here you can find data about some other people and extract those to your list if you want:

http://www.antisemitism.org.il/eng/Notable%20Holocaust%20deniers
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocaust_denial

I think the most important namns to add to your list is Paul Rassinier.


Paul Rassinier (1906 in Bermont – 1967) was a French pacifist, political activist, and author. He was also an anti-Nazi French Resistance fighter, and a prisoner of the German concentration camps at Buchenwald and Mittelbau-Dora. A journalist and editor, he wrote hundreds of articles on political and economic subjects.



By 1948, Paul Rassinier had been a history teacher for over twenty-two years, and was distressed to read stories about the concentration camps and deportations that he claimed were not true. He was also appalled at the unilateral condemnation of Nazi Germany for crimes against humanity that from his experience in Morocco, he didn't consider unique, and feared that nationalistic hatreds and bitterness would divide Europe. As he explained it in The Lie of Ulysses:

...one day I realized that a false picture of the German camps had been created and that the problem of the concentration camps was a universal one, not just one that could be disposed of by placing it on the doorstep of the National Socialists. The deportees—many of whom were Communists—had been largely responsible for leading international political thinking to such an erroneous conclusion. I suddenly felt that by remaining silent I was an accomplice to a dangerous influence.

Rassinier's first book, Crossing the Line (1949), an account of his experience in Buchenwald, was an immediate critical and commercial success, one reviewer describing it as "the first testimony coldly and calmly written against the demands of resentment, idiotic hatred or chauvinism".[18] The Trade Union of Journalists and Writers also praised it, and it was recommended reading by the SFIO.[19] It is notable for its criticism of the prisoner government. Rassinier claims that effective resistance was found only among the Russian prisoners, and that many brutalities in the camp were committed not by the S.S., but by the mainly Communist prisoners who took over the Haftlingsfuhrung and ran the internal affairs of the camps for their own benefit. Rassinier blamed the high death rate at the two camps he saw on their corruption.



His second book, The Lie of Ulysses: A Glance at the Literature of Concentration Camp Inmates (1950) caused controversy. Rassinier examined what he considered to be representative accounts of the camps. He criticized exaggerations and denounced authors, such as Eugen Kogon, who in L'Enfer Organisé (1947) claimed that the Buchenwald prisoner government's main objective was "to keep a nucleus of prisoners against the S.S." Rassinier asserts that this nucleus of prisoners were only looking out for themselves, and further claims that the Communists were trying to save their own skins after the war, saying that: "by taking by storm the bar of the witnesses and with extreme shouting, they avoided the dock". He also describes his visits to Dachau and Mauthausen, noting that in both places, he got contradictory stories on how the gas chambers were supposed to have worked, and for the first time expresses his doubts on the existence of gas chambers and a Nazi policy of extermination.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Rassinier

http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=ie7&q=FRANSK+HOLOCAUST+ENIER&rls=com.microsoft:sv:IE-SearchBox&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&rlz=1I7ACAW#sclient=psy&hl=sv&rls=com.microsoft:sv%3AIE-SearchBox&rlz=1I7ACAW&q=Paul+Rassinier&aq=f&aqi=g2&aql=&oq=&pbx=1&fp=71e510f3e4c4a057

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[Fester]

Tab, thanks for that link.  Very useful.  Still don't see my Dutchman, but this new list has plenty the Wiki left out.  

Again, I think this material is an excellent chisel for breaking through the conditioning, especially for the "intellectual" types who are so sure of their knowledge base and their "commitment" to free speech.

 Date              Name                    Country                                       Sentence
(various)             Jean-Marie Le Pen                  France, Germany                                 fines
(various)            Ditlieb Felderer                       Sweden                                       imprisoned various times        
1984                  James Keegstra                       Canada                                             schoolteacher, fired
1990                  Ahmed Rami                            Sweden                                                   imprisoned
1992                  Bernhard Schaub                  Switzerland                                     schoolteacher, fired
Feb. 27, 1998    Roger Garaudy                             France                            imprisonment (suspended), ₣240,000 fine
Jul. 21, 1998    Jürgen Graf                      Switzerland                         15 months (fled Switzerland to avoid sentence)
Jul. 21, 1998    Gerhard Förster                   Switzerland                         12 months imprisonment, disgorgement
            1998     Pedro Varela                               Spain                                        5 years in jail and fined £3,000
May 27, 1999    Jean Plantin                        France                           6 months imprisonment (suspended), fine, damages
            1999     Fredrick Toben                         Germany                                              "several months"
            2000     Serge Thion,                              France           fired, researcher French National Center for Research (worked w/ Faurisson)
            2000     Darlusz Ratajczak                      Poland            fired, teacher Univesity of Opole (death questionable circumstances)
Apr. 11, 2000    Gaston-Armand Amaudruz     Switzerland                        1 year imprisonment, damages
Dec. 21, 2004     "J"                                          Netherlands                          4 week sentence suspended, 2 years probation
Apr. 14, 2005    Siegfried Verbeke                        Belgium                               1 year imprisonment and a fine of 2,500 EUR
Feb. 20, 2006    David Irving                         Austria                            1 year imprisonment
Mar. 15, 2006    Germar Rudolf                             Germany       denied asylum and deported from US; 2½ years imprisonment in Germany
            2006     Rigolf Hennig                              Germany                                                    9 months
Oct. 3, 2006    Robert Faurisson                      France                           €7,500 fine, 3 months probation
                        Konstantinos Plevris                     Greece                                   found guilty but overturned on appeal
Feb. 15, 2007    Ernst Zündel                         Germany                         5 years imprisonment (+2 in Canada)
             2007    Vincent Reynouard                         France          1 year imprisonment, fined 10,000 euros, damages €3,000 to "LICRA"
             2008    Norman Lowell                             England                              2 year sentence suspended for 4 years
Jan. 14, 2008    Wolfgang Fröhlich                       Austria                                   6½ years imprisonment
Jan. 15, 2008    Sylvia Stolz*                         Germany                           3½ years imprisonment
Apr.      2008   Nicholas Kollerstrom                       England                              fired from University College of London
Mar. 11, 2009    Horst Mahler                          Germany                          5 years imprisonment
Oct. 23, 2009    Dirk Zimmerman                       Germany                        9 months imprisonment
Oct. 27, 2009    Richard Williamson                       Germany                                  €12,000 fine   
              2010  Ursual Haverbeck                          Germany         6 month suspended sentence, E1,000 fine (81 year-old)
 
* defense lawyer