Sophie Scholl and the White Rose Story -- A Jew "Fantasy"?

[CrackSmokeRepublican]

Still researching this but increasingly it is looking like typical J-Tribe lies.  By early 1943, these young Germans could not have any idea of the "number" of Jews so-called exterminated in "Poland".  Nevertheless, Zimmerman tosses their "leaflets" into the mix.  From all appearances, these kids protested the War, Nazism (and Hitler's rule) and wanted "Freedom".  Echoes a lot of J-Tribe propaganda against leaders in the Middle East today.  Except instead of Mossad agents and helpers dumpling "leaflets" in capitals... they have these "historic" Jew-Freedom heroes dumping "leaflets" at their university.

Looks like the kids were tortured and killed by the Gestapo.  Keep in mind the J-Tribers "translating" this for the Germans....

 Remember Slyvia Stolz !!! -- CSR

Timelines
To give you a tiny taste of how the real story differs from White Rose legend, we have prepared timelines from the four most "important" dates in White Rose history. As comprehensive as these daily records are, please be aware that they are subject to expansion and change as censorship is slowly lifted from White Rose documents.

We should - must! - celebrate the lives and deaths of all who so nobly resisted.  

February 18, 1943

February 22, 1943

April 19, 1943

July 13, 1943

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February 18, 1943

Following are the events of February 18, 1943 on the basis of    Ruth Sachs'  research as of December 31, 2004.

    8 am, Sophie Scholl skips Professor Gerlach's physics class.
    Hans and Sophie Scholl arise between 8:30 and 9 am and eat breakfast. Unlike most mornings, Wilhelm Geyer does not join them. Mail is delivered around 9:30 am.
    10 am, Gisela Schertling, Traute Lafrenz, and Willi Graf attend Professor Kurt Huber's lecture.
    Around 10:30 am, Wilhelm Geyer meets with a painter and potential customer (the painting the customer wishes to buy is Geyer's The Guardian Angel) in Stuttgart.
    10:30 am, Hans and Sophie Scholl leave for the university, carrying between 1500-1800 leaflets in a suitcase and briefcase. They stop at the Siegestor (Arch of Triumph) to bid Alexander Schmorell good-bye. He plans to leave for Russia once the scattering operation is complete.
    About fifteen minutes before class ends, Traute and Willi leave Prof. Huber's lecture to make it to Prof. Bumke's class in the Nervenklinik across town. They run into Hans and Sophie.
    While Alex Schmorell stands watch outside, Hans and Sophie distribute most of the leaflets by stacking them in front of classrooms.
    Though students are beginning to leave class and the Lichthof is hardly empty, Hans and Sophie decide to go up to the third floor to throw leaflets down from the balustrade.
    In the streetcar on the way to Prof. Bumke's class, Traute and Willi discuss their discomfort at what Sophie and Hans were doing at the university. They fear the worst.
    Shortly before 11 am, Jakob Schmid (janitor) sees the Scholls throwing the leaflets over the balustrade and starts up the stairs after them.
    Hans and Sophie see Schmid approaching. Sophie quickly hides the key to Manfred Eickemeyer's studio in an ottoman in Room 238 (likely the women's restroom). Hans does not dispose of the incriminating evidence in his pocket: Christoph Probst's leaflet draft, and cigarette coupons directly traceable to the Geyer family. - Hans and Sophie make no attempt to escape out the back way, but rather stand and wait for Schmid to reach them.
    11 am, Otl Aicher goes to the Scholls' apartment as arranged to meet them for lunch. He finds it locked up, so leaves.
    Schmid takes Hans and Sophie to Haefner's office, and the Gestapo is called. The university is immediately locked down.
    Hans tries to destroy Christl's leaflet draft by tearing it up into little pieces and throwing it on the floor. His act is noticed and the pieces are collected as evidence.
    Leo Samberger is in an upper level law course and hears the commotion. When he comes out, he learns that (to him as yet unknown) students had done something with leaflets. Police presence everywhere. He suspects these are the same students who had mailed him deliciously seditious leaflets only two days earlier.
    Professor Huber witnesses the turmoil. He makes eye contact with another student (his sister-in-law) and later tells her that he was afraid that Hans Scholl's recklessness and drug use would result in something like this.
    Traute and Willi can hardly concentrate on Bumke's lecture. She says that he usually sleeps through this class, but today he is restless.
    Gestapo agent Robert Mohr arrives at the university around 11:30 am. Initial (undocumented) interrogation begins.
    11:30 am, the Gestapo begins its search of the Scholls' apartment. Otl comes back and is immediately taken into custody. He remains at the apartment while they search.
    12 noon, Alex Schmorell shows up at Lilo Ramdohr's apartment and tells her what happened. (She knew in advance what Hans and Sophie were planning and had advised Alex against participating in their scheme.)
    Coincidentally, Professor Richard Harder's extraordinarily accurate psychological profile of the White Rose writers arrived at Gestapo headquarters about this time.
    Shortly after noon, Hans and Sophie are led away from the university. Hans calls out to Gisela Schertling. The Gestapo mistakenly thinks he is addressing a student named Metternich and arrests him on the spot.
    The university rector (Wüst) appears to the students waiting inside the locked-down university and tells them what has happened. His announcement of the arrest of these "criminals" is met with applause.
    1 pm, Prof. Bumke's lecture is mercifully over. Willi returns to the barracks and Traute goes to the Scholls' apartment, but does not go inside.
    1 pm, the first batch of students are released from lock-down. Among them is Gisela Schertling. She goes to the Scholls' apartment and is immediately taken into custody, and to Gestapo headquarters. (Otl is still in custody, but evidently inside the Scholls' apartment.)
    Around 1 pm, Jakob Schmid gives his statement to the Gestapo.
    The first interrogations of Hans and Sophie Scholl, and Gisela Schertling, begin shortly after 1 pm.
    Tilly Hahn (Eugen Grimminger's secretary) shows up at the Scholls' apartment with a new duplicating machine. She is warned not to go inside by a female student (Traute?).
    The Gestapo in Ulm goes to the Scholl family's residence. At this time they only collect correspondence and do not perform a thorough search. They do not tell the parents about their children's arrest.
    2 pm, Alex calls Josef Söhngen to warn him about Hans' arrest.
    Alex visits his Bulgarian friend Nikolai who gives him his passport. Lilo then calls on her neighbor Miele Roters to complete the forgery.
    Mohr nearly releases Hans and Sophie. Reichstudentenführer Scheel tells Mohr of his conversation with Sophie and warns Mohr against doing anything against a fellow German student.
    3:15 pm, Alex calls Willi Graf and asks to meet him.
    3:45 pm, Willi meets up with Alex. Together they try to call Hans Scholl.
    4 pm, university lock-down is finally lifted.
    Shortly after 4 pm, Willi Graf leaves for the Munich suburb of Pasing to have dinner with his cousins, the Luible family.
    Some of the evidence (such as a typewriter) is brought back to Gestapo headquarters and processing begins.
    Around 5 pm, the Gestapo completes its search of the Scholls' apartment. They bring the remaining evidence along with Otl Aicher back to headquarters. Otl still does not know what is going on.
    When Otl is led into the Wittelsbacher Palace (Gestapo headquarters), he briefly sees Hans Scholl.
    Mohr is told about the damning evidence found in the Scholls' apartment. He is shocked, because he believes them innocent.
    Around 6 pm, break in the interrogations for supper. Contrary to Else Gebel's postwar narrative, Hans and Sophie were allowed to eat too.
    Sophie meets Else Gebel for the first time. [Else was likely a Gestapo mole and not the heroine she made herself out to be after the war.]
    6:30 pm, Metternich is released, having sufficiently proven his Nazi credentials.
    Gerhard Feuerle is arrested under suspicion of having created the templates used in the graffiti campaign.
    The Gestapo shows up at Wilhelm Geyer's house in Ulm to take him into custody. He is still in Stuttgart.
    Willi Graf eats supper with the Luible family and asks them about new contacts who may be amenable to ideas of resistance.
    10 pm, the Gestapo searches Willi Graf's room. (He is not present.)
    The Gestapo pieces together Christoph Probst's (unpublished) leaflet.
    Wilhelm Geyer gets home late. Inge Scholl appears at the Geyers' door to ask him to take a message to Hans and Sophie in Munich the next day (Hans Hirzel's warning from February 17 - the day before!).
    Midnight, Willi Graf comes home. He and his sister Anneliese are taken into custody.

(c) 2004 by Ruth Hanna Sachs. All rights reserved. Please contact Ruth for permission to quote.

February 22, 1943

Following are the events of February 22, 1943 on the basis of Ruth Sachs' research as of December 31, 2004.

    Early in the morning, Traute Lafrenz and Werner Scholl leave for Munich. The Scholl parents decide to take a later train.
    8 am is the deadline for the defendants to enter a plea and present evidence in their case. Also at this time, Hans and Sophie Scholl and Christoph Probst are formally expelled from the university.
    Around 9 am, Hans, Sophie, and Christl are taken from the prison to the Justizpalast (Palace of Justice). The trial "officially" starts at 9 am, but the judges, defendants, and attorneys are not there at that time.
    9:30 am, Judges Freisler and Stier (the two primary judicial players) arrive by train in Munich.
    10 am, the trial begins.
    Robert Mohr and the other Gestapo agents appear in court in accordance with the subpoena to give testimony against the defendants.
    Around 10:30, Leo Samberger is buying cigarettes outside the courthouse and accidentally learns that the trial is starting. He immediately goes inside and takes up a position at the rear of the courtroom.
    The prosecution decides not to call any witnesses, because all three defendants plead guilty. However, they do present evidence such as the typewriters and duplicating machine and call the head of the forensics department to testify.
    The record notes that the actual trial proceedings begin at 11 am.
    Christoph Probst is hidden from the spectators' view during the trial. Hans Scholl nearly faints.
    Judge Freisler adjourns for lunch around 11:30 am.
    During the lunch break, Jakob Schmid enjoys the applause and approbation of the spectators.
    The Scholl parents arrive at the train station at approximately 12 noon.
    Around 12:30 pm, the prosecution's sentencing requests begin.
    Robert and Magdalena Scholl burst into the courtroom just as Hans and Sophie's defense attorney is making his weak closing statement ("May justice be done"). Robert Scholl demands to speak with the defense attorney and then with Judge Freisler. He asks to be allowed to present a defense for his children.
    Judge Freisler has Gestapo agents remove the Scholl parents from the courtroom. Leo Samberger follows them and waits outside with them until court is adjourned.
    Hans, Sophie, and Christoph are "allowed" to make a final statement.
    Trials ends around 12:40 pm, with death sentences for all three defendants.
    Leo Samberger talks to the Scholl parents about filing a clemency petition. They leave for the DA's office.
    1 pm, all evidence is removed from the courtroom and appropriated by the People's Court for its use.
    Robert Scholl and Leo Samberger work on the clemency petition with the DA's secretary. It is filed around 2 pm. Leo Samberger gives Robert Scholl his telephone number should he need additional help.
    A Nazi Beamtin and friend notifies Josef Söhngen of increased surveillance at the train station and advises him not to flee.
    Robert Scholl's request to meet with the Executive DA is denied. The DA tells him he should go visit his children as soon as possible.
    Around 2:15 pm, Hans Scholl sees his parents. His final loving words are for Josef Söhngen.
    About fifteen minutes later, the Scholl parents visit with Sophie.
    While Sophie is talking to her parents, Robert Mohr goes to Stadelheim Prison. He runs into Hans, who purportedly (according to Mohr!) thanks him for treating Sophie so well. (Questionable.)
    Also questionable: Sophie refuses the straw that Mohr holds out to her ("recant, say it was your brother's fault").
    4 pm, Sophie is advised that she will not be pardoned, with the same news given to Hans and Christoph in rapid succession. It is an official announcement that is witnessed (both chaplains witnessed the event), signed and placed in their files.
    The prison chaplains visit the condemned. Christl Probst is baptized into the Catholic faith and receives last rites. Aware that the chaplains are Gestapo moles, Sophie implicates Gisela Schertling in her final conversation with Chaplain Alt.
    5 pm, Sophie Scholl is executed (beheaded), followed by Hans ("Long live freedom!") and Christoph.
    Robert Scholl - unaware of his children's death - calls Leo Samberger and asks him to join them for dinner at Humplmayr's Restaurant.
    6:30 pm, Leo joins the Scholls (Robert, Magdalena, and Werner only) and Traute Lafrenz for dinner. Robert Scholl asks him to prepare a clemency petition for Christoph Probst that can be taken to Herta Probst for signature the next morning. While they are still at Humplmayr's, Leo hears from a friend in the restaurant that the executions had been announced on the radio. He chooses not to tell the Scholls.
    6:50 pm, a telex is sent to Berlin advising that the executions had taken place.

(c) 2004 by Ruth Hanna Sachs. All rights reserved. Please contact Ruth for permission to quote.

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Here's the legend with liberal J-Tribe editing:

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White Rose : Nazi Germany

v Primary Sources v


The White Rose, was formed by students at the University of Munich in 1941. It is believed that the group was formed after August von Galen, the Archbishop of Munster, spoke out in a sermon against the Nazi practice of euthanasia (the killing of those considered by the Nazis as genetically unsuitable).

Members of this anti-Nazi group included Hans Scholl, Sophie Scholl, Inge Scholl, Christoph Probst, Alexander Schmorell, Willi Graf and Jugen Wittenstein. Kurt Huber, a philosophy teacher at the university, was also a member of the group.

The group decided to adopt the strategy of passive resistance that was being used by students fighting against racial discrimination in the United States. This included publishing leaflets calling for the restoration of democracy and social justice. These were distributed throughout central Germany and the Gestapo soon became aware of the group's activities.

Several members had served in the German Army before resuming their studies. This provided them with information about the atrocities being committed by the Schutz Staffeinel (SS). Willi Graf had served as a medical orderly in France and Yugoslavia in 1941 whereas Hans Scholl and Alexander Schmorell had seen Jews being murdered in Poland and the Soviet Union. When Scholl and Schmorell returned to Munich in November, 1942, they joined up with Graff and began publishing leaflets about what they had seen while in the army.

The leaflets were at first sent anonymously to people all over Germany. Taking the addresses from telephone directories, they tended to concentrate on mailing university lecturers and the owners of bars. In Passive Resistance to National Socialism , published in 1943 the group explained the reasons why they had formed the White Rose group: "We want to try and show them that everyone is in a position to contribute to the overthrow of the system. It can be done only by the cooperation of many convinced, energetic people - people who are agreed as to the means they must use. We have no great number of choices as to the means. The meaning and goal of passive resistance is to topple National Socialism, and in this struggle we must not recoil from our course, any action, whatever its nature. A victory of fascist Germany in this war would have immeasurable, frightful consequences."

The White Rose group believed that the young people of Germany had the potential to overthrow Adolf Hitler and the Nazi government. In one leaflet, Fellow Fighters in the Resistance, they wrote: "Germans! Do you and your children want to suffer the same fate that befell the Jews? Do you want to be judged by the same standards as your traducers? Are we do be forever the nation which is hated and rejected by all mankind? No. Dissociate yourselves from National Socialist gangsterism. Prove by your deeds that you think otherwise. A new war of liberation is about to begin." The group also began painting anti-Nazi slogans on the sides of houses. This included "Down With Hitler", "Hitler Mass Murderer" and "Freedom". They also painted crossed-out swastikas.

Members also began leaving piles of leaflets in public places. On 18th February, Sophie Scholl and Hans Scholl began distributing the sixth leaflet produced by the White Rose group. It included the following: "The day of reckoning has come - the reckoning of German youth with the most abominable tyrant our people have ever been forced to endure. We grew up in a state in which all free expression of opinion is ruthlessly suppressed. The Hitler Youth, the SA, the SS, have tried to drug us, to regiment us in the most promising years of our lives. For us there is but one slogan: fight against the party! The name of Germany is dishonoured for all time if German youth does not finally rise, take revenge, smash its tormentors."

Jakob Schmidt, a member of the Nazi Party (and janitor),  saw them at the University of Munich, throwing leaflets from a window of the third floor into the courtyard below. He immediately told the Gestapo and they were both arrested. They were searched and the police found a handwritten draft of another leaflet. This they matched to a letter in Scholl's flat that had been signed by Christoph Probst.

The three members of the White Rose group appeared before the People's Court judge, Roland Friesler, on 20th February. Found guilty of sedition they were executed by guillotine a few hours later. Her cell-mate, Else Gebel, said Sophie's last words were: "It is such a splendid sunny day, and I have to go. But how many have to die on the battlefield in these days, how many young, promising lives. What does my death matter if by our acts thousands are warned and alerted." Just before he was executed Hans Scholl shouted out: "Long live freedom!"

Inge Scholl and her parents were also arrested and imprisoned. Over the next few weeks Kurt Huber, Alexander Schmorell, Willi Graf, Jugen Wittenstein and over eighty others suspected of being members of the White Rose group were taken into custody. Huber, Graff and Schmorell were all found guilty of sedition and were executed.

Bibliography

   Sophie Scholl and the White Rose, by Jud Newborn.
    Oneworld Publlications, Oxford, 2006.
    http://www.JudNewborn.com
   They Died to Defeat the Reich
    by Gabriella Gruder-Poni  
    New York Times – June 12, 1993
   A View From Within The White Rose
    German Life – May 31, 1997
   The Story of a Rose: The Remarkable Life of Sohie Scholl
    by Elizabeth Applebaum  
    Baltimore Jewish Times – November 24, 1995
   The White Rose: It's Legacy and Challenge
    By Chris Zimmerman  

 

http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/GERwhiterose.htm

Sophie Scholl and the White Rose
Margie Burns   

At the age of 21, Sophie Scholl was executed by the People's Court in Germany on Feb. 22, 1943, during the Holocaust, for her involvement in The White Rose, an organization that was secretly writing pamphlets calling for the end of the war and strongly denouncing the inhuman acts of the Nazis.

In May, 1942 German troops were on the battlefields of Russia and North Africa, while students at the University of Munich attended salons sharing their love of medicine, Theology, and philosophy and their aversion to the Nazi regime. Hans Scholl, Alexander Schmorell, and Sophie Scholl were at the center of this group of friends.

Attending the same university were two medical students, Willi Graf and Jurgen Wittgenstein, who had served in a military hospital in 1939, with Hans, Sophie's older brother. Along with Christoph Probst, a married soldier and father of three, they eventually joined The White Rose.

Sophie Scholl was born on May 9, 1921, in Forchtenberg am Kocher, where her father Robert Scholl, was mayor. At 12 Sophie joined the Hitler Youth, but became disillusioned. The arrest of her father for referring to Hitler as "God's Scourge," to an employee, left a strong impression on her.

To the Scholl family loyalty meant obeying the dictates of the heart. "What I want for you is to live in uprightness and freedom of spirit, no matter how difficult that proves to be," her father told the family.

When the mass deportation of Jews began in 1942, Sophie, Hans, Alexander and Jurgen realized it was time for action. They bought a typewriter and a duplicating machine and Hans and Alex wrote the first leaflet with the heading: Leaflets of The White Rose, which said:

"Nothing is so unworthy of a nation as allowing itself to be governed without opposition by a clique that has yielded to base instinct...Western civilization must defend itself against fascism and offer passive resistance, before the nation's last young man has given his blood on some battlefield."

Members of The White Rose worked day and night in secrecy, producing thousands of leaflets, mailed from undetectable locations in Germany, to scholars and medics. Sophie bought stamps and paper at different places, to divert attention from their activities.

In 1933 Hitler was elected chancellor of Germany. Many Germans who were uncomfortable with the anti-Semitic ranting of the Nazi party, appreciated Hitler's ability to bolster pride in a shamed nation.

The second White Rose leaflet stated: "Since the conquest of Poland 300,000 Jews have been murdered, a crime against human dignity...Germans encourage fascist criminals if no chord within them cries out at the sight of such deeds. An end in terror is preferable to terror without end."  (Where did they get this number?  Sounds like a White Rose Hoax of sorts....this was early 1943....  ) ---CSR

Sophie's brother Hans spent two years in the military, studied medicine at the University of Munich, and was a medic at the Eastern front with Alex, Willi and Jurgen in 1942.

Jurgen transported stacks of pamphlets to Berlin. The journey was dangerous, "Trains were crawling with military police. If you were a civilian and couldn't prove you'd been deferred, you were taken away immediately," he recalled.

No one in the United States can comprehend what it is to live under absolute dictatorship. The party controlled the news media, police, armed forces, judiciary system, communications, education, cultural and religious institutions.

The third leaflet demanded: "Sabotage in armament plants, newspapers, public ceremonies, and of the National Socialist Party...Convince the lower classes of the senselessness of continuing the war; where we face spiritual enslavement at the hands of National Socialists."

The Nuremberg Laws of 1935 had demanded expulsion of anyone who was not Aryan, declaring Jews as non-citizens. The international press had begun to report beatings in the streets, so Hitler moved the arena of cruelty away from cities to concentration camps.

On November 9, 1938, 30,000 Jews were beaten and arrested, and Storm Troops burned 191 synagogues on Kristallnacht, "the night for the broken windows," causing 200,000 Jews to flee to the countryside.

When Alexander Schmorell was asked to swear an oath to Hitler, he asked to be discharged from the army. Willi Graf turned to passive resistance like the rest, after serving as a medical orderly in Yugoslavia. He was assigned to the Second Student's Company in Munich, where he met Sophie, Hans, Alexander, Christoph, and Jurgen.

Christoph Probst was the only member of the White Rose who was married with children, so the others tried to protect him. In the fourth leaflet they wrote: "I ask you as a Christian whether you hesitate in hope that someone else will raise his arm in your defense?...For Hitler and his followers no punishment is commensurate with their crimes."

After the German defeat at Stalingrad, in 1943, and Roosevelt's demand for unconditional surrender for the Axis powers, an Allied invasion was weeks away. That night, Hans, Willi, and Alex painted "Freedom" and "Down with Hitler," and drew crossed-out swastikas on buildings in Munich.

Their philosophy professor, Kurt Huber, was shocked when he learned of the state-organized atrocities committed in Germany, and he worked on the final White Rose leaflets. He was also motivated to lecture on forbidden subjects, such as the writings of the Jewish philosopher Spinoza.

Each leaflet was more critical of Hitler and the German people than the last. The fifth mentioned: "Hitler is leading the German people into the abyss. Blindly they follow their seducers into ruin...Are we to be forever a nation which is hated and rejected by all mankind?."

The Gestapo had been looking for the pamphlets' authors as soon as the first ones appeared. As the language in the leaflets became more inflammatory they stepped up their efforts. They arrested people at the slightest hint of suspicion.

Sophie and Hans brought a suitcase of the final leaflets, written by Professor Huber, to the University, and left them in corridors for the students to discover and read.

Jakob Schmidt, University handyman and Nazi party member, saw Hans and Sophie with the leaflets and reported them. They were taken into Gestapo custody. Sophie's 'interrogation' was so cruel, she appeared in court with a broken leg.

On Feb 22, 1943, Sophie, Hans and Christoph were condemned to death by the 'People's' Court, which had been created by the National Socialist Party to eliminate Hitler's enemies.

Hans Scholl's last words shouted from the guillotine were, "Long live freedom!" In an unprecedented action by the guards, Christoph Probst was allowed a few moments alone with Hans and Sophie before they went to their deaths. After months of Gestapo interrogations to obtain the names of his co-conspirators, Willi was executed. His final thoughts were: "They shall continue what we have begun."

Alexander Schmorell was arrested in an air raid shelter and executed at Munich Stadelheim. Kurt Huber became one of the defendants at the trial of the People's Court against the White Rose. Survivors remember Huber's last words, an affirmation of humaneness.

Jurgen Wittenstein was interrogated by the Gestapo, but they couldn't prove his involvement so they let him go. He got himself transferred to the front, beyond Nazi control and was the only one to survive. After the war, he relocated to the United States, became a doctor and received an award from the Government of West Germany for his bravery.

"How can we expect righteousness to prevail when there is hardly anyone willing to give himself up individually to a righteous cause," Sophie said. "Such a fine, sunny day, and I have to go," she continued, "but what does my death matter, if through us thousands of people are awakened and stirred to action?"

"The White Rose is a radiant page in the annals of the 20th Century. The courage to swim against the stream of public opinion, even when doing so was equated with treason, and the conviction that death is not too great a price to pay for following the whisperings of the conscience," writes Chris Zimmerman in The White Rose: Its Legacy and Challenge.

Two hundred German schools are named for the Scholls, and politicians such as former New York Mayor David Dinkins invoke their names, and visit their graves. With the rise of ethnic cleansing in Bosnia and violence against foreigners in Germany, the anniversary of the executions is a powerful reminder.

Sophie Scholls sister Inge Aicher-Scoll wrote: "Perhaps genuine heroism lies in deciding to stubbornly defend the everyday things, the mundane and the immediate."