the Pope Benedict XVI Denies Jesus is the Christ (Messiah)

[Ralph Furely]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KcPq4CDr_r8

[K-Sensor]

excellent find.  thanks.

[Ralph Furely]

quite welcome.

[K-Sensor]

quite welcome.

We've got the devil in Australia at the moment.  World Youth Conference, or something.  It's a very dark time for Australia.

He flew into Australia at a military base.  Is he special or something?  This is a Protestant Nation too.

[Ralph Furely]

speaking of devil, i had a picture of him up for my facebook pic a cpl months ago, with the caption saying ;just a reminder of how evil this piece of shit is'. all u need to do is look at his face to see just how evil in origins that fucker is.  its actually gross to me that not only do dummies fall for this shit, but how can they look at this man and think he is a man of god or whatever it is ppl think of him when they look at his face.
that shit is just pure evil, plain and simple.

[joeblow]

I'm gonna bet that even though I copy and pasted the entire excerpt that this lunatic sneakily picked sentences out of context, none of you are gonna even carefully read this post, never mind the only 1 web page that would only take 15 mins to read. By the way, this piece of shit tlthe5th, Thomas Richards @ spirituallysmart.com, is one of those dumbass Talmudist-loving morons who actually believes in the Greg Shitmanski/Erica Kahn Yelps Vatican-led NWO disinfo (PLEASE challenge me on this!). This former pot-head (it's true, look it up!) is so fucking stupid, that when I made up a list of Leo Zagami's lies, HE ACTUALLY BELIEVED IT AND REPEATED THEM LINE BY LINE THAT I WROTE! -> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... zkCQ&hl=en

http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congr ... co_en.html

Insistence on discontinuity between both Testaments and going beyond former perspectives should not, however, lead to a one-sided spiritualisation. What has already been accomplished in Christ must yet be accomplished in us and in the world. The definitive fulfilment will be at the end with the resurrection of the dead, a new heaven and a new earth. Jewish -->messianic expectation is not in vain<--. It can become for us Christians a powerful stimulant to keep alive the eschatological dimension of our faith. Like them, we too live in expectation. The difference is that for us the One who is to come will have the traits of the Jesus who has already come and is already present and active among us.

The horror in the wake of the extermination of the Jews (the Shoah) during the Second World War has led all the Churches to rethink their relationship with Judaism and, as a result, to reconsider their interpretation of the Jewish Bible, the Old Testament. It may be asked whether Christians should be blamed for having monopolised the Jewish Bible and reading there what no Jew has found. Should not Christians henceforth read the Bible as Jews do, in order to show proper respect for its Jewish origins?

In answer to the last question, a negative response must be given for hermeneutical reasons. For to read the Bible as Judaism does necessarily involves an implicit acceptance of all its presuppositions, that is, the full acceptance of what Judaism is, in particular, the authority of its writings and rabbinic traditions, -->which exclude faith in Jesus as Messiah and Son of God<--.

As regards the first question, the situation is different, for -->Christians can and ought to admit that the Jewish reading of the Bible is a possible one<--, in continuity with the Jewish Sacred Scriptures from the Second Temple period, a reading analogous to the Christian reading which developed in parallel fashion. Both readings are bound up with the vision of their respective faiths, of which the readings are the result and expression. Consequently, both are irreducible.

On the practical level of exegesis, Christians can, nonetheless, learn much from Jewish exegesis practised for more than two thousand years, and, in fact, they have learned much in the course of history. For their part, it is to be hoped that Jews themselves can derive profit from Christian exegetical research.

[Ralph Furely]

well i dono who the guy is that made the video, but the basis of it still stands i think.  i like it cuz it shows this jewish pope for what he really is.  bottom line.

[joeblow]

well i dono who the guy is that made the video, but the basis of it still stands i think.  i like it cuz it shows this jewish pope for what he really is.  bottom line.

Jewish pope? I think you mean the last one. In regards to his love of the NWO, I can't deny that, BUT the basis of this video is complete and utter BULLSHIT! Please specifically list those points brought up in the video that should be discussed.

[clark-kent]

I don't know if he's jewish but he sure freaks me out.

[Ralph Furely]

well i dono who the guy is that made the video, but the basis of it still stands i think.  i like it cuz it shows this jewish pope for what he really is.  bottom line.

Jewish pope? I think you mean the last one. In regards to his love of the NWO, I can't deny that, BUT the basis of this video is complete and utter BULLSHIT! Please specifically list those points brought up in the video that should be discussed.

i thought he was jewish.  anyway im not sure what i should be explaining here that wasnt already explained in the video.  mainly the pope is sitting in and taking part in a ritual or whatever you wanna call it,
from another religion.  hes the pope, yet here he is playing fun looking religious games with a religion that isnt his.  thats kinda fucked up, no?  doesnt that undermine a whole lotta shit?  
im in no way religious i think its all silly shit and i care not about any of it i dont care which camp it is.  but this is pretty blatant in your face shit here so i thought it did a good job at showing what kinda mess
they got goin on.  what with the tricking of its followers, etc.

[joeblow]

I thought that the speaker in the video was a Bigoted Protestant, but he is actually a Traditional Catholic who used to have commercials the same time as Greg Shitmanski's Arctic Melon show. I did an extensive search on Jewgle and found that most of the the naysayers concerning this event were Traditional Catholics. I read other people's account of the visit and NONE of them mention that the Pope took part in the service, if you believe that I am mistaken, then please post an excerpt with the source/link.

http://www.mostholyfamilymonastery.com/ ... gogue.html

[Ralph Furely]

the video showed him sitting up on the stage while the main guy did his thing.  and then i think he even got up to the podium too with buddy.
the mere fact that the pope is even in this building while this is going on is enough.  but here we have him actually up on stage taking part in whatever it is theyre doing.
thats pretty much it, i dont have links/sources.  i dont even really know where your going with this.  i dont know if your sticking up for the pope?  or u just dont like the guy who made the vid?  im not sure...
the video shows what it shows, regarldess of who made it or who speaks throughout it.  its kinda like when david duke puts out a really good article or goes on CNN and fucks blitzer up.  he may be a white power racist n all'a that shit, but what he is saying is still just as pertinent.  ya know?

[Ralph Furely]

ok now im really confused.  you just posted a link at the end there that pretty much is saying the same thing im saying.  whats the issue here again?...

[joeblow]

I posted the link at the end show people where the text of of the video came from to be used as a reference.

[Ralph Furely]

ok...