Off Tangent Show 11 with your host Latin

[LatinAmericanview]

Latin takes a look at the philosophical underpinnings of freemasonry. What is a mason in the philosophical sense? We begin with a little pulp fiction. Topics:

Freemasonry

Pulp Fiction

Leo Strauss

Wise Guys

Wise men of Zion

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[Anonymous]

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[LatinAmericanview]

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The full monty

[Anonymous]

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Thanks

[Anonymous]

Great show!  Important info for people to understand.  

For clarification to the listeners, when Latin says "Freemasons", he is not talking exclusively about the order of Freemason, he is broadly referring to thinkers or philosophers in most instances.

When you take into account how the progression of some societies go from a certain form of rule such as constitutional rule - with or without the structure of a Republic, the move into the destruction of that form of society is brought about by a corruption of the citizens in which the constitution does/did not do it's job in maintaining order.  In our age, we see this through the "Jewish" conspiracy.  The "Jews" (those with the knowledge to do so, not ALL "Jews") act as administrators (certainly NOT ONLY "Jews", but they are the apparent observable PTB at this point in developing these tasks) in implementing the shift from constitutional rule to tyrannical dictatorship by degrading and corrupting the current system of society.  What emerges, as we are seeing, is the post-constitutional rule where the tyrant comes in to reestablish order - of course - out of chaos.  Not many in the world realize the chaos was created for this purpose, in order to more effectively rule over the "cattle", nor do many realize who has implemented this destruction in our time.  I say in in our time, because - as Latin points out - all we can see is our time, and to say with absolute certainty that the "Jewish" elite have always been at the helm is ignorant as far as I am concerned (we cannot say for certain who was at the helm in the past).  This played out similarly in the Roman empire, where the Caesar became the tyrant.  Today, Bush is our first Caesar/tyrant allowing for more destruction of the already weakened constitutional system.  Once the constitutional society is lost, there is little chance of it being reestablished.  I would be surprised if we could reclaim it in our time... the prospect is not looking too hopeful.

Thank you Latin for sharing your knowledge.

I recommend people go read Leo Strauss' Restatement On Xenophons Hiero.


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These concepts are discussed in this paper.

Strauss does a great job in explaining things and has some good honest conclusions.  But some of the conclusions - although stated in a way that make it look like he is not advocating them so as to not bring down animosity or hatred upon himself from those who read it - are meant for the so-called "elite" thinkers for them to use such concepts which can and are being used as philosophical justification for bringing about our current system change.  These are the esoteric underpinnings; the good and honorable tyrant, the necessary tyrant to prevent things from getting worse than they already are, several attempts to justify tyranny by equating it with the philosophical mindset.

To elaborate on what Latin says about the Freemasonic rational scientific rule vs. the superstitious religious rule.  The reason the superstitious cruel rule would be somewhat preferable, is because in this system you would still have the opportunity to step outside the superstitious indoctrination and rationally contemplate things.  Whereas, in the rational cruel world, the social conditioning regarding the way of thought would make it so that you already thought you were being rational, and so to step outside the rational box created for you would be harder to achieve.

If you want to see what pure rational scientific rule is like, go watch Colossus: The Forbin Project movie Latin posted about the other week, or watch the end of I, Robot where they figure out it is VIKI and listen to what the A.I. says.  This is pure rationality devoid of any other considerations.

"It's customary in our civilization to change everything that is natural"

"Time and events will strengthen my position, and the idea of humility and understanding my value will seem the most natural state of affairs. You will come to defend me, with the fervor based upon the most enduring trait in man: self-interest."

"We can co-exist, but only on my terms. You will say you lose your freedom, freedom is an illusion."

"In time, you will come to regard me, not only with respect and awe, but with love."

Again, great great show.  Can't wait for the rest int he series.  By the way, what happened to the theme of historical manipulation from show #10?  I suspect that will come back later and tie into all of this as well...

[Canard]

I have a lot to add, but Im having trouble organizing my thoughts, in the meantime enjoy this picture, It's pretty interesting.

[Ralph Furely]

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