Anyone still researching 911 details?

Started by Ognir, May 10, 2011, 02:56:12 PM

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Whaler

I'm doing a little googling and researching the DEW theory. I found a few debunking sources. I will admit there are some anomalies that fit with Woodstein's theory.
 :)

 Not ready to get on board with it though....Although admittedly I just started to look into Woodfeld's theory so I'm not really qualified to call it disinfo...IMO it's a way more Jew-friendly theory than controlled demolition, which is why the Jews have decided to make her the new  911 truth cover girl.

[youtube:1z65vfu3]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ny-I5ui-s08[/youtube]1z65vfu3]

QuoteRecently, Jesse Ventura has expressed support for Judy Wood's "DEW" theory.

http://911blogger.com/news/2011-05-10/j ... pace-beams  :^)

Judy Wood is nothing but a disinformation spreader who should not be taken seriously. Please feel free to copy and share this video.

Links debunking Judy Wood:

http://911debunkers.blogspot.com/2011/0 ... -911-tru...

http://www.ae911truth.org/en/news-secti ... faq-6-wh...

http://www.journalof911studies.com/lett ... udy-wood...

http://www.journalof911studies.com/lett ... _Bldg._s...

http://www.journalof911studies.com/volu ... ted-Ener...

http://www.journalof911studies.com/volu ... dies44.pdf

http://www.journalof911studies.com/volu ... mental.pdf

MonkeySeeMonkeyDo

Quote from: "Whaler"Not ready to get on board with it though....Although admittedly I just started to look into Woodfeld's theory so I'm not really qualified to call it disinfo...IMO it's a way more Jew-friendly theory than controlled demolition, which is why the Jews have decided to make her the new  911 truth cover girl.

Exactly. And the recent Ventura endorsement of the space beams hypothesis on the AJ show is VERY suspicious. Looks like the workings of a CIA/Mossad cointelpro campaign to discredit 9/11 truth. Perfect timing too with the ghost of Osama back in the headlines which has reinvigorated the Jew-media's 'Al Qaeda did 9/11' conspiracy theory in the public consciousness. Every major news channel across the West DEFACTO refers to Bin Laden as "the mastermind of 9/11", as if there's not even a doubt about it. Truly sickening Jew World Order machinations abound.

Who cares about space beams when we have this?



and this?


Yo Mama

Uh oh, CrackSmokeRepublican is living up to his name and believing in "German death cult laser beams from outer space" theories.

Lucky for CSM that Jeboo is imaginary.   :D

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MonkeySeeMonkeyDo

One thing I find interesting about the DEW crowd (most of them anyway) is that you'll notice how they attack other more credible theories like standard CD, and even the mini-nuke hypothesis. The space beamers are dead set that nothing other than space beams were used, and they spend a lot of their time attacking the Thermite-Thermate people like Steven Jones & Niels Harrit and trying to discredit them. This is a clear attempt to cover up the obvious evidence of explosives in the towers, planted by an Israeli demolition team. Most space beamers are also No Planers/Black Popers/Paperclip Nazi theorists who blame everything on White Gentiles. Bunch of little Chaim's and Shlomo's.

Yo Mama,

CSR has my full trust, regardless if he believes in the DEW thing or not. He knows what's up and that it's the Jews, not the German Death Cult from Mars. But I personally think DEW is disinfo, to be honest, and the hardcore pushers of it are very Jew-friendly I have seen.

CrackSmokeRepublican

Quote from: "MonkeySeeMonkeyDo"One thing I find interesting about the DEW crowd (most of them anyway) is that you'll notice how they attack other more credible theories like standard CD, and even the mini-nuke hypothesis. The space beamers are dead set that nothing other than space beams were used, and they spend a lot of their time attacking the Thermite-Thermate people like Steven Jones & Niels Harrit and trying to discredit them. This is a clear attempt to cover up the obvious evidence of explosives in the towers, planted by an Israeli demolition team. Most space beamers are also No Planers/Black Popers/Paperclip Nazi theorists who blame everything on White Gentiles. Bunch of little Chaim's and Shlomo's.

Yo Mama,

CSR has my full trust, regardless if he believes in the DEW thing or not. He knows what's up and that it's the Jews, not the German Death Cult from Mars. But I personally think DEW is disinfo, to be honest, and the hardcore pushers of it are very Jew-friendly I have seen.

I won't argue this one too hard on anyone. The results are what they are. I looked at Hutchinson's work before I ever heard of Wood's DEW theories for 9/11. Anything related to Laser's is complete B.S.  The connection of 9/11 and Hutchinson was interesting since Hutchinson's stuff went black ops back in the 1990s.  With the Anthrax attacks and the wars all geared up by the Neocon Jews... this, to me, just seemed like a different, but plausible theory.  I do think if it was just explosives... there would be a lot more burnt bodies during the collapse and spread of the dust-ashes.  There are several pictures of what happens to Steel from Thermate/Thermite, but not many involving what happens to people when a Thermate ember lands on their Plastic Fireman's hat at Ground Zero.  And fires 100s yards from the collapse?  It looks strange.  

Yeah, Architects and Engineers (Whaler's video) are basically going to slam Wood's research...it is expected. She's attacked them.  Most importantly,  both of these groups just don't focus on the J-Tribers behind it all.  They fight over "how" it was done. And like JFK, this could go on for decades.
Dr. Judy Wood did bring a lawsuit against the DEW manufacturers -- from what I've seen these are not B.S. fantasy weapons.. these companies have made and deployed materially destructive weapons and some of them are top secret. Is that true? Yeah.. it is.   Hutchinson is off the radar in terms of accepted science but there is something to his work IMHO. If these dumbasses could tap it for a "major project" I'm sure they would.  TIU favors the Thermite/Thermate... no prob.. I won't push it to cause needless divisions.  Like...was it done with a knife or handgun?
I know if  debris ( large objects) fell on to cars and trucks from the sky, some of that should have fallen on a lot of people and maybe I didn't see them "pinned"  or see the TV footage explaining it all.  
Since Judy Wood published her book, she has made the "alternative show" rounds that's why the obvious Shills have finally interviewed her -- if you think she's professional Disinfo.. no prob.  I just don't see it that way. Besides, prove she's a Jew?  If anything, people here at TIU that know the J-Tribe did it should try and get an interview with her -- just to throw that at her (and the ArchitectsEngineers for 9/11).  Try and blow her out of the water if she's all Jew B.S. disinfo... IMHO. If she's promoting bad "science" then get more info to prove her crap is all CRAP.  I learned about Hurrican Erin from her that also got my interest. The Jew Knife or Handgun, believe what you want... but Shlomo's hand is behind it.  And if there are DEW weapons of this caliber... and Shlomo's Jew hand is on the controls.... something has got to take that hand off the controls... Anthrax-Depeleted Uranium-Phosphorus Shells...this would be just another weapon for Shlomo to fire at the Gentiles.    That's why I entertain the DEW-Wood's theory more than others might.
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MonkeySeeMonkeyDo

For MikeWB,

Did Al Qaeda also paint up this white van with a picture of 9/11 on it?


Note: this is an artist's rendition based on NYPD description of the van

[youtube:ww1bfo3p]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nu20uBnPB6Y[/youtube]ww1bfo3p]

The magic passport, "found" a few blocks from the WTC, unburned.


The magic "Hijacker letter" found in three locations, including crash site of flight 93, unburned, and in Atta's magical luggage loaded with incriminating evidence, that didn't make the flight. http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline ... tions.html


The magical indestructible red bandanna "found" in the wreckage of flight 93.


According to the Pittsburgh Post Gazette, "United Airlines Flight 93 slammed into the earth Sept. 11 near Shanksville, Somerset County, at more than 500 mph, with a ferocity that disintegrated metal, bone and flesh. It took more than three months to identify the remains of the 40 passengers and crew, and, by process of elimination, the four hijackers." -Pittsburgh Post-Gazette (12/30/01)

Flight 93 crash site. basically no plane debris, no bodies visible:


So the titanium plane and steel jet engines are completely destroyed, human bodies incinerated, but a piece of paper and a red bandana survive the crash and are used to support the official story of 'Arab suicide pilots'. MikeWB believes this.

Ziad Jarrah's paper passport managed to survive the flight 93 crash as well.


That's not even the real Jarrah but a doppelganger, first pic is the real Jarrah:


Ziad Jarrah's cousin was a Mossad agent, Lebanese spy for Israel. ---> http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/m ... d_169.html

Besides the obvious absurdity of paper surviving the fireball inferno crashes, why would all of these so-called Arab hijackers carry passports on domestic flights? It's the phoniest bunch of BS ever unleashed on the American people. So MikeWB, if all these pieces of evidence are fake and planted to orchestrate a cover story about "Muslim suicide pilots", then explain how were there Muslim suicide pilots?

Yo Mama

I think it's possible that Arab nutjobs were used as patsies by the Israeli Mossad to hijack the planes.  But I also think it's possible that there were never any Arab nutjobs at all, and that they were actually brown skinned Sephardic/Mizrahi Israeli Mossad agents posing as Arab nutjobs, leaving a long evidence trail meant to be discovered by the FBI.

You have to remember that brown skinned Sephardic/Mizrahi Jews look almost exactly like Arabs.  I've seen them myself in person.  You cannot tell the difference just by looking at them.  The Israeli Mossad has used these types of Arab-looking Jews for false flag "terrorist" attacks in the past.  So it's highly plausible that it would have made use of them in the planning and execution of the 9/11 attacks.

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MonkeySeeMonkeyDo

Apparently MikeWB doesn't find it necessary to defend his position, yet makes dozens of erroneous statements with 100% certitude. He accuses others of employing Alex Jones tactics and then runs off and hides. WTF? He'll probably take another 4 month breather then come back and tell us how certain he is that the Zionists weren't lying when they told us Osama Bin Laden did 9/11.  :lol:

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abduLMaria

so DEW = Directed Energy Weapon.

had to look that one up.
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mchawe

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By the way,
MSMD



That is just what you are supposed to think !
As I am 90% certain some high tech weapon was used as well as Aircraft and CD, I view the squibs as possible obfuscation.
(.....Like controlled demolition does not turn the majority of the mass of a building into fine dust. And where are the chunks of concrete ?)


Also
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otgfwzA1 ... re=related

Controlled demolition does not do that.

How about Hurricane ERIN ?

If you research Dr Steven Jones, his credentials are questionable. It looks to me,  he is there to keep people's minds OFF the idea of HAARP involvement, whereas he has a past which was involved in Star Wars research. He ridicules her by saying she is promoting the idea of an energy ray, something she does not promote at all.

Just because MAYBE she might look a bit Jewish is no proof she is some kind of a shill, let alone Jewish.
Her research asks the question HOW not WHO.
We already know WHO. But the question HOW is still important in the light of HAARP.
It gives other possibilities in relation to the earthquakes in Haiti and Japan, as well as a number of weather phenomina in the United States.

A lot of comments on this thread by people (not including CSR) who have not taken the trouble to actually go over her site in sufficient deatail !

joeblow

A lot of people who I have suspected were agents have been revealing themselves recently.

Quote from: "mchawe"Just because MAYBE she might look a bit Jewish is no proof she is some kind of a shill, let alone Jewish.

Anyone who thinks, because someone looks ASHKENAZI that they are not to be trusted, is an idiot.

Quote from: "mchawe"Her research asks the question HOW not WHO.

And her HOW has metamorphosed from reasonable questions to completely lunatic theories which have disproven by other 9/11 Researchers whose reponses can be understood by anyone with at least a year of university physics.

Quote from: "mchawe"We already know WHO. But the question HOW is still important in the light of HAARP.

Just for kicks, tell us specifically WHO you know did 9/11? Was it Cheney and the ones above him? How the hell could HAARP have anything to do with bringing down WTC 1 and 2?

Quote from: "mchawe"A lot of comments on this thread by people (not including CSR) who have not taken the trouble to actually go over her site in sufficient deatail !

Her site overflows with mental-illness, stop diverting this thread with disinformation, create a new thread specifically about Judy Wood and her nonsense.

CrackSmokeRepublican

Hey Joe,

Call her up and get her on your site. You have more than a layman's knowledge of these events it would be interesting to see some specific "leverage" brought to bear on her theories. Also, ask her if she is a Jew or what religion her family has had over the years.  My bet she has a typical Protestant or Catholic background but I would not be surprised if she was J-Tribe -- I doubt she is a Jew.. for me it is one of those 70/30 propositions (70% non-Jew/30% possibly Jew).   She doesn't dwell or point out "Jew" pet issues IMHO.   If you think she is disinfo... then try and blow her out of the water on her "insane" material. She has been on a couple of shows with John Hutchinson and that made me think she was an independent.  Like I said, he's totally off the radar of accepted science but there is something to Tesla coils and Casimir/Van Der Waal forces in static fields.  Really drill her on her trial against the weapons systems manufacturers since everybody with a "science" background pretty much dismisses her except for the companies contracted to build DEW type weapons systems. Lawsuits are difficult to ignore.

Take a look here before the interview:
http://www.seas.harvard.edu/capasso/pub ... 1_2011.pdf

http://focus.aps.org/story/v27/st1

http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=7304

Bring some of this to bear on her theory:
Scattering
 By E. R. (Edward Roy) Pike, Pierre Celestin Sabatier
http://books.google.com/books?id=0gvXLwtz4QoC


Keep in mind Shlomo's finger on the button. Note all the Jews in "Skunkworks":

Boyd Bushman, a Senior Scientist of Lockheed Martin, on The Hutchison Effect

[youtube:2nmx91pj]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57ZKTA7nx8U[/youtube]2nmx91pj]

This guy points out some "fakery" possibilities with Hutchinson's postulated AG (but where's the Cannonball??  ;)  ):

[youtube:2nmx91pj]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsaMSNwUvxM[/youtube]2nmx91pj]

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Quote from: "joeblow"A lot of people who I have suspected were agents have been revealing themselves recently.

Quote from: "mchawe"Just because MAYBE she might look a bit Jewish is no proof she is some kind of a shill, let alone Jewish.

Anyone who thinks, because someone looks ASHKENAZI that they are not to be trusted, is an idiot.

Quote from: "mchawe"Her research asks the question HOW not WHO.

And her HOW has metamorphosed from reasonable questions to completely lunatic theories which have disproven by other 9/11 Researchers whose reponses can be understood by anyone with at least a year of university physics.

Quote from: "mchawe"We already know WHO. But the question HOW is still important in the light of HAARP.

Just for kicks, tell us specifically WHO you know did 9/11? Was it Cheney and the ones above him? How the hell could HAARP have anything to do with bringing down WTC 1 and 2?

Quote from: "mchawe"A lot of comments on this thread by people (not including CSR) who have not taken the trouble to actually go over her site in sufficient deatail !

Her site overflows with mental-illness, stop diverting this thread with disinformation, create a new thread specifically about Judy Wood and her nonsense.
After the Revolution of 1905, the Czar had prudently prepared for further outbreaks by transferring some $400 million in cash to the New York banks, Chase, National City, Guaranty Trust, J.P.Morgan Co., and Hanover Trust. In 1914, these same banks bought the controlling number of shares in the newly organized Federal Reserve Bank of New York, paying for the stock with the Czar\'s sequestered funds. In November 1917,  Red Guards drove a truck to the Imperial Bank and removed the Romanoff gold and jewels. The gold was later shipped directly to Kuhn, Loeb Co. in New York.-- Curse of Canaan

Yo Mama

Dick Cheney and the Reptilians above him.  :D

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joeblow

Quote from: "CrackSmokeRepublican"Call her up and get her on your site. You have more than a layman's knowledge of these events it would be interesting to see some specific "leverage" brought to bear on her theories. Also, ask her if she is a Jew or what religion her family has had over the years.  My bet she has a typical Protestant or Catholic background but I would not be surprised if she was J-Tribe -- I doubt she is a Jew.. for me it is one of those 70/30 propositions (70% non-Jew/30% possibly Jew).   She doesn't dwell or point out "Jew" pet issues IMHO.   If you think she is disinfo... then try and blow her out of the water on her "insane" material. She has been on a couple of shows with John Hutchinson and that made me think she was an independent.  Like I said, he's totally off the radar of accepted science but there is something to Tesla coils and Casimir/Van Der Waal forces in static fields.  Really drill her on her trial against the weapons systems manufacturers since everybody with a "science" background pretty much dismisses her except for the companies contracted to build DEW type weapons systems. Lawsuits are difficult to ignore.

Since I take being an administrator seriously, I created a separate thread just for this disinformation, viewtopic.php?f=56&t=14547&start=0 and my response can be found there.

abduLMaria

while i am grateful to the people who have done original research, at this point, i think we have enough solid material to make sure that the 10th Anniversary is properly commemorated - as a time when Israel attacked & killed 2800 to 3000 American gentiles, so that they could then have a reason to go to the Middle East & slaughter a few million Muslim gentiles.

i suggest we get a jump on the commemoration of 9-11 before September 11, and start posts on our respective 'other websites that we go to', highlighting the Israel Did 9-11 truths.

we don't have all the pieces of the puzzle, but we have enough, and, come 9-11, the drumbeat of Official Conspiracy Theory/ Scary Muslims will be both nauseating & deafening.  might as well get an early start, telling the truth.

or course, TIU can contribute a primary resource -
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=5367
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CrackSmokeRepublican

I found these interviews with Jerry Leaphart interesting. He's the one that brought the lawsuits against SAIC and ARA.


http://www.checktheevidence.com/audio/9 ... 202011.mp3


http://www.checktheevidence.com/audio/9 ... 202011.mp3

If anyone has a serious "Physics" B*tch with Dr. Wood.  Read her new book and then slam   :D:D :

http://wheredidthetowersgo.com/
After the Revolution of 1905, the Czar had prudently prepared for further outbreaks by transferring some $400 million in cash to the New York banks, Chase, National City, Guaranty Trust, J.P.Morgan Co., and Hanover Trust. In 1914, these same banks bought the controlling number of shares in the newly organized Federal Reserve Bank of New York, paying for the stock with the Czar\'s sequestered funds. In November 1917,  Red Guards drove a truck to the Imperial Bank and removed the Romanoff gold and jewels. The gold was later shipped directly to Kuhn, Loeb Co. in New York.-- Curse of Canaan

bigwaga

Hi Guys

Jim Fetzer has been doing interviews with an ex physics teacher Chuck Baldwin. there are about 9 hours of it, they have been discussing Dr Judy Wood's new book. Chuck thinks he can answer all of the anomolies brought up by Dr Wood just by using basic chemistry and physics. He does a good job IMHO, he also know's it was the jews that pulled it off.

He's done a pile of powerpoint slides to explain the chemistry/physics etc.

http://abbrv.co.uk/vdB

and the interviews can be found at
http://radiofetzer.blogspot.com

Dr Judy Wood has done a great job in putting together all the photos and data but I'm not convinced by DEW's or mini nukes. Iv'e recently heard about the barometric bomb which sounds interesting, electric fields and exploding gas clouds, will need to look into it.

CrackSmokeRepublican

Quote from: "bigwaga"Hi Guys

Jim Fetzer has been doing interviews with an ex physics teacher Chuck Baldwin. there are about 9 hours of it, they have been discussing Dr Judy Wood's new book. Chuck thinks he can answer all of the anomolies brought up by Dr Wood just by using basic chemistry and physics. He does a good job IMHO, he also know's it was the jews that pulled it off.

He's done a pile of powerpoint slides to explain the chemistry/physics etc.

http://abbrv.co.uk/vdB

and the interviews can be found at
http://radiofetzer.blogspot.com

Dr Judy Wood has done a great job in putting together all the photos and data but I'm not convinced by DEW's or mini nukes. Iv'e recently heard about the barometric bomb which sounds interesting, electric fields and exploding gas clouds, will need to look into it.

Interesting post. Looks like Fetzer is going to sell another book on 9/11. So he dug up a high-school physics teacher to point out "gaps" in Wood's analysis. But hey, that's Fetzer.

I still believe that if there were huge amounts of "thermate/thermite" used to cut down the towers (and WTC 7) with a resulting "pyroclastic cloud" rolling down the street mixed with "thermite/thermate" swirling... a lot of people would die..like the guy with the scared face on 9/11... but we just didn't see their gasping bodies on the news channels.  




This guy supports the "official theory" and does a pretty decent job of it:

http://www.uwgb.edu/dutchs/pseudosc/911NutPhysics0.HTM

"Israel Did It!" in Japanese  :)


http://www15.ocn.ne.jp/~oyakodon/newver ... ayajin.htm
After the Revolution of 1905, the Czar had prudently prepared for further outbreaks by transferring some $400 million in cash to the New York banks, Chase, National City, Guaranty Trust, J.P.Morgan Co., and Hanover Trust. In 1914, these same banks bought the controlling number of shares in the newly organized Federal Reserve Bank of New York, paying for the stock with the Czar\'s sequestered funds. In November 1917,  Red Guards drove a truck to the Imperial Bank and removed the Romanoff gold and jewels. The gold was later shipped directly to Kuhn, Loeb Co. in New York.-- Curse of Canaan

abduLMaria

a big part of the 9-11 crime was the cover-up.

and a big part of the cover-up is to have Israeli loyalists at key spots in the US gov.


Obama, for example.

just by looking at the current state of the US gov., we can learn a lot about the cover-up of 9-11.

for example, Lani Kass -

http://www.jcs.mil/biography.aspx?ID=93

Lani Kass Senior Policy Advisor to the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff
 
"Born in Krakow, Poland, the only daughter of now-deceased Holocaust survivors, she graduated with a BA in Political Science and Russian Studies from the Hebrew University of Jerusalem in 1971. She earned a Joint PhD from Columbia University's School of International Affairs and the Hebrew University's School of Economics and Political Science in 1976. In October 1981, she resigned her commission as Major in the IDF and returned to the US with her husband, Norman D. Kass---a decorated Vietnam veteran--and their 3 sons. Their oldest son followed his father's US Army service with his own three consecutive tours as an Armored Cavalry Company Commander.

A naturalized US citizen, Dr. Kass has served the Department of Defense for 25 years."



with Israeli loyalists like Kass FILLING the US gov. senior positions, an investigation into major crimes like 9-11, or the theft of $trillions from the Pentagon (announced 9-10-11, records housed in WTC7) ... are unlikely to occur.


at this point, the cover-up is the ongoing part of the crime.
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