Why was the George Carlin topic locked?

[Anonymous]

What?  How about I respond by saying 3.14159.  How's that for a response!  What does that have to do with the false statements you made or about your whole reason for justifying your lack of contribution?  Again, what are these "things we have missed"?  Why are you making a straw man about our perceptions of the Christian Bible and then mocking us on your created false-perception?  Please learn how to properly argue a point without resorting to derisive comments.

Furthermore, you want us to answer your questions when we have been asking you for the past 2 pages what these "things we have missed" are.  So you first.

Peace.

EDIT**  Additionally, your behavior is becoming similar to that of a troll:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll

An Internet troll, or simply troll in Internet slang, is someone who posts controversial and usually irrelevant or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum or chat room, with the intention of baiting other users into an emotional response[1] or to generally disrupt normal on-topic discussion.

[SOulJOURNey]

Just to add another example, look at Freemasonry. A bunch of people running around thinking they are worshiping God and helping the community, and they are indeed sun worshiping satanists, funding the 'great work'. I'm sorry but that sounds an awful  trite familiar.

[SOulJOURNey]

EDIT**  Additionally, your behavior is becoming similar to that of a troll:

Forgive me. I was under the impression that I just did answer some of the questions. If the opinion is that I'm acting like a troll, allow me to refrain from such activity. Continue with your regularly scheduled program.

Bye

[SOulJOURNey]

and by the way, I mocked no one in that post. That's your own interpretation.

[Anonymous]

First of all, it was originally just:

Funny how the bible is the most important religious text to those of the Christian faith, all of whom accept it as part of Christian Law, and it wasn't written by Christians. hmm...need me to spoon feed you all the facts on that, or are we at least all on the same page in that regard?

But now you went back and changed it all up.  And saying "need me to spoon feed you all the facts on that" is a mockery based on your created straw man.

[Anonymous]

Well finally you put up your point of view with some information about your claims instead of just stating how we were not seeing the forest from the trees, or how we were lost in the wind, or how there was a great deal of info being missed.  Was that so hard?  Couldn't you have simply said that earlier instead of evading our questions and continually making posts about other things each time?  All that does is aggravate the person/people you are trying to get your point across to, since you were not stating what your actual info/point was.  It would have saved a lot of bickering and bullshit if you would have.  By not getting to your point and expressing your view, all you did was give the impression you were here to disrupt any meaningful discussion. Hence the appearance of a troll.

Now that you have stated your perception with information, we can get somewhere - if you choose to participate.  So let us know if you will be returning.  Please don't leave, but actually participate and contribute, it will actually do something to resolve the issues you have - which you finally did by bringing something to the table in the post you edited.

All of this could have been done without the statements about you not contributing because of the lack of information the membership presented concerning things you wanted to talk about.  You could have attempted to bring up information you wanted discussed in a thread somewhere instead of going that route (maybe you did, but you never mentioned that you tried this).  The way you went about this is not very good.

Peace.

[SOulJOURNey]

The part about the bible wasn't unrelated. I was referring to the comment made by conard that most people of the Jewish community accept the Talmud as Jewish law, and how asinine it is to present that as tangible evidence against that which I had stated. It is an analogy in that the two situations are quite similar.

[Anonymous]

Well his characterization was accurate in so far as the tribal cultural ideology that some of the non-religious "Jews" adhere to.  Many more religious "Jews" accept the Talmudic philosophy than the non-religious, as you can see by the sources I posted before.  When you see us say "Jews", you perceive us to black-list all "Jews" to have that certain world-view.  This is a mistake in generality as we all fall for in failing to be specific.  Those of us in this forum know what we mean when we say "Jews".  If you would have been a regular participant in this forum you would have gleamed so from several posts made by frequent members.  So yes we should be extra-specific in calling these "Jews" Talmudic-Kabbalic-Zoharan-Occultic-Satanic-Lucifarian "Jews", but that does not ring well.  We have had discussions about what to call them here and there, but in the end there is no consensus, or the off-topic discussion within the original topic about this naming of this specific group is not continued.

Additionally, many "Jews" do not understand their fellow so-called or self-styled "Jews" adhere to such a philosophy, and in their ignorance give blind loyalty to their fellow "brethren" despite their actions or their true philosophy.  This is another problem.

You could have joined in but you chose to make up your mind and not do so by thinking we were not talking about the right things that you thought we should have been.

So if you actually do want to participate, it is in your hands to do so.  It is not our fault.

Peace.

P.S.  Did you read the link I sent you about the Jewish Experience by Gilad Atzmon?  I don't think you have yet.  Here it is again in case you actually care to get a proper understanding: http://palestinethinktank.com/2008/06/1 ... ad-atzmon/  Not having time to read enough is not our fault if you lack understanding of what we do on this forum.  Learning and the search for knowledge is each person individual responsibility, we cannot do it for you.

[Canard]

Soul? Anything more to add I'd like to get to the bottom of this and why you're so agitated by my posts.

[SOulJOURNey]

I've been without internet this entire time, so that's why there hasn't been a response. As it stands, too much time has passed for me to dredge this debate back up. All I will say is that it appears that I have a different point of view than some or most of the people on this site. I have no desire to get into details at this time, so that's all I'm going to say about it right now. My contact information is public. If anyone cares enough about the issue, you can contact me.

[Rockclimber]

I've been without internet this entire time, so that's why there hasn't been a response. As it stands, too much time has passed for me to dredge this debate back up. All I will say is that it appears that I have a different point of view than some or most of the people on this site. I have no desire to get into details at this time, so that's all I'm going to say about it right now. My contact information is public. If anyone cares enough about the issue, you can contact me.

I think it would be better if you finished what you started here. If you can be contacted what difference does it make if its on a forum or phone?  I mean do you have such damning information that it has to be told in secret? What does that accomplish?

I think what your trying to say is something we have heard too many times before "trust me, I've done the research".

Well so have others, and they have done a much better job of convincing me thus far.

[Canard]

plus one.

[SOulJOURNey]

I think what your trying to say is something we have heard too many times before "trust me, I've done the research".

Well so have others, and they have done a much better job of convincing me thus far.

Actually, if I were trying to say that, I would have. I meant exactly what was stated: I don't have the time or the desire to continue an online debate that has no bearing. The things I stated are my opinions. IF anyone is so inclined to contact me outside of the forum to discuss this, they have that option. It was not an invitation to hear any 'truth' in secret.

I didn't 'finish what I started here' because I shouldn't have started it to begin with, so let things lie.

[Canard]

Could you just leave the forum and stop with your bullshit already?  What is the point of you being here?  To tell us, with little to no serious research, we are way off base?  That's brilliant chief, you can go now.

[Canard]

Here's the PM I got from Soul Journey in response to my above post;

You really have no idea what amount of research I've done bro, so you need to chill. Just because someone has a different view of things than you do doesn't warrant your attitude toward me. I wasn't even singling you out specifically when I started this, and it was something I should have kept to myself anyway, but either way...you really are assuming too much, and taking things a little too personally it seems. Pretty shitty for you to tell a fellow researcher to leave based solely on one thread. Good form pal. The purpose of this correspondence isn't to start an argument or debate either, so please don't try to turn it into one.

I'll reserve comment at this time, just looking for feedback from my fellows here at TIU.