The Mysterious Case of 9-11 "Victim," James M. Roux

Started by Michael K., July 06, 2011, 11:38:31 PM

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Michael K.

The truth may never be publicly spoken of, but some very unusual circumstances surround the 9-11 death story of James M. Roux, lawyer of Portland, Maine.

First of all, Roux is considered among the dead of flight AA 175 on September 11, 2001.  However, among the many passengers few have had as many unanswered questions and uneasy suspicions waged about them as this enigmatic Maine lawyer.  First of all, from America's most respected Jewish-run AIPAC mouthpiece, the New York Times:

http://www.nytimes.com/2002/06/16/nyregion/portraits-grief-victims-family-bike-rides-wise-sayings-snorkeling-red-roadster.html?pagewanted=all

QuoteJAMES M. ROUX

Believer in Simplifying

The law firm -- Roux & Ghimire of Portland, Me., and Katmandu, Nepal -- was never destined for financial greatness. Although James M. Roux, 42, stoutly described his partner as ''the Johnnie Cochran of Katmandu,'' Mr. Roux himself, a spirited litigator, outdoorsman and windmill-tilter, made impracticality an art form. The firm's rollicking inauguration was held at a club in Manhattan, not Maine, and guests included punk rockers, Mr. Roux's fishing buddies, former girlfriends, a blues-rock band and some Sherpas from Nepal, for whom Mr. Roux designated the evening a benefit.

It was a few years ago when Mr. Roux quit defending corporate clients in asbestos and lead-paint cases to return home to Portland as a small-time general-interest lawyer. He became a magnet for clients like artists, the homeless and the Sherpas.

Dinner chez Roux? He would hand his brother Dave a restaurant menu. Then Mr. Roux, a divorced father of two sons, would attach a fishing reel to a clothesline that stretched from his apartment kitchen window across an alley to the restaurant's back door. Its owner would return the basket full of food -- down payment on legal bills.

On Sept. 11, Mr. Roux was on United Airlines Flight 175, on the first leg of a journey to Roux & Ghimire's Himalayan office.

Correction: June 23, 2002, Sunday Because of an editing error, a biographical sketch last Sunday about James M. Roux, a lawyer from Portland, Me., who died on a plane that struck the World Trade Center, misidentified the piece of fishing equipment he used to transport food on a clothesline to his apartment from a restaurant next door. It was a creel -- a basket for holding fish -- not a reel.

Okay, so first of all, I would like such a eulogy, myself.  What a guy, huh?  Well I have a friend who was a close friend of his, went to the funeral, etc.  And he certainly was such a character as to deserve acclaim.  He was, shall we say, a little 'bigger than life.'  

But, concerning the truth and reality, there are some questions as to whether this fun-loving guy was just Santa's gift to the legally oppressed, or whether his charity law office (???)was an intelligence service front.  

Eyewitness testimony confirms that shit-talk of "9-11" was being traded around Roux's office before the event in question by one of his employees, whom Roux overheard, and that the person making that loose reference ended up at a job "in Alaska," one week after that mistake.

But there are other inconsistencies, starting with his erroneous listing on both flights departing Portland, Maine that fateful day, as reported by Greg Szymanski:

http://www.rense.com/general68/911h.htm

QuoteBesides the FAA and BTS irregularities, the official flight lists from all four flights have been a serious bone of contention for 9/11 critics, who call attention to the glaring errors and conflicting passenger numbers on many of the flight lists released, many coming from unverified sources.

On Flight 11, for example, American Airlines released two different lists containing 77 and 75 names the day after 9/11, but the Washington Post published 89 names the same day while the Boston Daily published 89 names with conflicting names, however. Remember, complicating matters worse, Fox News all along was still claiming that only 81 names were confirmed a week later.

Through out the years, not only have the numbers conflicted but so have the names on the lists. Gerald Holmgren, a 9/11 researcher who has spent much time and effort researching the flight irregularities found one of the most glaring errors never explained by the airlines or the government.

Holmgren, whose compilation of 9/11 flight data can be found at http://indymedia.all2all.org/news/2004/05/84711.php, uncovered that four of the alleged passengers on American Airlines Flight 11 with the last names of Ward, Weems, Roux and Jalbert also mysteriously and unexplainable were also listed as passengers on Flight 175 that struck the South Tower.

Holmgren in his 2004 article had this to say:

"What a mess! This crime - the murder of approximately 3000 people, and the excuse for two wars and alarming attacks on civil liberties - and presumably more to come - is supposed to have been properly investigated and documented? Why should we be expected to believe who the hijackers were, when the spin doctors can't even do a credible fabrication job of a list of innocent victims?

"It's previously been demanded by many skeptics that we need to see a verifiable official passenger list which actually contains the names of the alleged hijackers. We can now take the implications of that further and point to the absence of any passenger list documentation for AA11 which stands up to scrutiny as a credible document. We have nothing which could support the existence of any of the alleged passengers on the alleged flight."

This article also reports, interestingly,  that the flights continued in uninterrupted service for several years after the supposed events of 9-11:

QuoteFAA records for four years listed both 9/11 United jetliners as still on the 'active' list. Now planes only 'deregistered' in September after snoopy researchers questioned FAA officials a month earlier.

Two of the 9/11 airliners were never 'deregistered' and remained on the 'active' flight list until Sept. 28. 2005, the classification officially changing only a month after two inquisitive flight researchers made repeated calls to the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA), inquiring about the strange irregularity.
 
The two planes in question were Flight 93 and Flight 175, both owned and operated by United Airlines and, according to the official story, both destroyed on 9/11, one in Shanksville, Penn., and the other crashing into the South Tower of the WTC.
 
Usually a normal procedure after an airliner is destroyed, why it took United more than four years to 'deregister' the airplanes and fill out the official FAA paperwork remains a mystery and never has been fully explained by the FAA, United or the government.
 
In fact, in stark contrast, a check of FAA records shows the two other American Airline flights, Flight 11 and 77, both were 'deregistered' and classified as 'destroyed' only months after 9/11 on Jan. 14, 2002.
 
Why the late filing by United?
 
"My brother and I both wrote the FAA in August about this situation and asked why the planes were not deregistered.   The FAA said that an owner does not need to deregister an aircraft," said one of the researchers named Roger, who preferred only to use his first name. "Ironically, a couple of months after I wrote the FAA, the planes were deregistered.   What's up with that?  

But in the case of Roux, this is not the end of the story.  Apparently, the American Airlines flights 11 and 77 were not the only things to pass through the fires of 9-11 without final destruction.  Have a look at this piece on Roux's death status:

http://freedomisforeverybody.blogspot.com/2007_05_13_archive.html

QuoteJames M. Roux
---------------------------- Original Message ---------------------------- Subject: James M. Roux
From: "Thomas Potter"
Date: Tue, May 15, 2007 1:11 pm
To: http://ssdi.rootsweb.com/

http://f9g.yahoofs.com/groups/g_1554821 ... GBnLL7.yP8

Roux, James M Atty
21 Oak St, Ste 601
Hartford, CT 06106-8004
(860) 247-3666

http://f9g.yahoofs.com/groups/g_1554821 ... GBB7oHUw7W

JAMES M ROUX (Age: 47)
http://find.intelius.com/people-search.html

http://f9g.yahoofs.com/groups/g_1554821 ... GBB_76NzsM

James M. Roux
"Roux, 42, an attorney who left a large law firm in Hartford, Conn., to open a smaller firm in Portland, was remembered as a Renaissance man. He was intelligent and loved the law but also attended more than two dozen Grateful Dead shows. "
http://cf.newsday.com/911/victimsearch.cfm?id=246

Note:  Other eyewitnesses who were close to the band report that The Grateful Dead was an Army psy-op project.  Go figure.

Even the Public Broadcast System was not sure if Roux was really dead, one year later:

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/terrorism/sept11/victims/ua175.html

QuoteReported Dead (as opposed to "Confirmed Dead"): United Airlines Flight 175
-- Eric Samadikan Hartono, 20, Boston, Mass., student, Indonesian
-- James M. Roux, 43, Portland, Maine, lawyer, Roux & Ghimire

Now, if anyone wonders if there is a connection between James M. Roux, the Army airborne forces (parachutists...hmmm), and a career in law:

http://bejohngalt.com/2010/09/project-2996-james-roux-2/

QuoteHe served three years in the Army (Special Forces, actually. - M.K.) and was a decorated paratrooper...

QuoteI was a newly assigned paralegal paratrooper assigned to The Army's 18th Airborne Corps Artillery at Fort Bragg while then Captain James M. Roux was an Army Judge Advocate assigned as our jurisdictional trial counsel. I worked with him extensively and was extremely impressed by his competence and devotion to our country. I learned alot from him and remember that we often talked about the fact that he was from Maine where I was born while my father was based there in the Air Force. He was a great leader and often talked about the fact that he too once was an Army Paralegal in the reserves while going to law school. My deepest regards go out to his family. He was a great human being that left a positive lasting impression on me.
-Thomas G. Curry

What is the point of all this?  Well, according to firsthand eyewitness testimony given to me, Mohammed Atta tried to buy a bag of weed from my friend on Sept. 10, saying it was safe because he was a friend of James M. Roux, whom my friend was a steady dealer to.  My friend tried to report all of this to the FBI after 9-11, but they took more than two years to interview him.  Also, he made a full deposition and gave a VHS video-taped copy to Amy Goodman of "Democracy Now," in my presence.  We can see how the gatekeeper left operates, in this case, as no public mention on the program ever came of it.

 <lol>

Michael K.

P.S. -  Roux's political connections:

http://stevenwarran-backstage.blogspot.com/2010/08/connecticuts-sept-11-victims.html

QuoteJames M. Roux, 43, formerly of New London

Roux, a lawyer who was born in New London, was aboard United Airlines Flight 175, which crashed into the trade center's south tower. He was on the way to Thailand...

Roux was a graduate of Bowdoin College and the University of Maine Law School. His cousin, state Sen. Susan Longley of Maine, told the Portland Press Herald that the family was not ready to talk about Roux.

Susan Longley today is the Probate Judge in my county.  Small world.  She is the daughter of former Maine Governor James B. Longley (1975 - 1979).

Does anyone notice that one story has it that Roux was headed for Nepal, another that he was headed for the West coast to open a more profitable law office, and a third states that he was going to Thailand?

Michael K.

Correction:

QuoteApparently, the American Airlines flights 11 and 77 were not the only things to pass through the fires of 9-11 without final destruction.

Should read:  ...the United Airlines Flights 93 and 175....

Michael K.

Was this connected to Roux's mission in Nepal?

http://india.indymedia.org/en/2002/09/2190.shtml

QuotePOSSIBLE CIA HAND IN THE MURDER OF THE NEPAL ROYAL FAMILY
By repost 25/09/2002 At 14:36

(This is a reposting of a Madison IMC article)

CIA involvement is claimed in June 2001 massacre of Nepal's royal family. It paved way for international intervention into the six-year old insurgency in the country and further US and Indian Geopolitical objectives in region.

An article supposedly blocked by the US security apparatus but republished in this September's Monthly Review Magazine to accompany a communication from Baburam Bhattarai, the Convenor of the United Revolutionary People's Council, Nepal, reignites the position that the June 1, 2001, royal massacre in Nepal, which had gripped the mainstream press a year and a half ago, was the work of not the crown prince but a special squad trained by the CIA. Not the blind anger of love, but US and Indian geopolitical strategy in the region are given as the real reasons behind the massacre.

The official story is that the Nepal crown prince Dipendra went on a drunken and drug-induced killing spree because the queen would not allow him to marry his fiancé, Devyani Rana.

(Here the author mistakenly says that the queen was against the marriage because Devyani was a commoner, when the actual reason was that she was not from the queen's own sub-lineage. For the last 150 years, members of the queen's Rana family have preserved their aristocratic standing and access to power through reciprocal marriages with the royal Shah family. Sublineages within the Ranas have jealously and sometimes bloodily asserted themselves within this political alliance system, providing a semblance of credibility to the story of a love-stricken crown prince massacring his family due to the queen's truculence.)

The official story immediately came under suspicion in Kathmandu, where most people still believe the real story has not been told. Suspicious circumstances put the king's younger brother Prince Gyanendra out of town and left his own already notorious and hated son, Prince Paras, alive within the palace while all those before them in the succession were murdered; confused initial announcements by the new king such that the deaths were due to an accidental firing of an automatic weapon; the efficient and accurate commando-style shooting juxtaposed against the total incapacity of the crown prince due to drugs and alcohol immediately prior to the killing; the position of the body of the queen on the stairs leading up to her son's room as if she was running up to find him; the hurried cremation of the bodies of the royal family, supposedly according to strict Hindu religious customs that require quick disposal of the bodies, said the international press, although the previous king and even the more recently killed General Secretary of Communist Party (UML) had been kept on ice many days prior to their cremations, allowing proper, if still suppressed (in the latter case), autopsies.

Even now, potential eye-witnesses among the palace staff are said to have never returned home and they continue to remain unaccounted for, including a cook who called home to report that there were "many Dipendras walking about the palace" just before the killing started. Other eye witnesses, such as one of the medical doctors who is reported by a reliable source to have seen bullet holes in Crown Prince Dipendra's back in addition to the single shot to the head by which he supposedly committed suicide, don't speak up for fear of their lives.

Wayne Madsen, a CounterPunch columnist and a former naval officer who used to work for the NSA, argues in his article "Comparisons Between Recent U.S.-Backed Coups: Caracas and Kathmandu" that the massacre has all the markings of a CIA operation such as that in Caracas this last year, except that the CIA succeeded in Kathmandu where it failed in Caracas . He says that a CIA office had been operating next to the present king's palace for some months prior to the killing, in which CIA operatives, contractors and high military personnel were observed going in and out of the office. He says that a Nepal army commando unit trained by US special operations forces did the actual killing. The US special operations forces were accompanied by a US psychological division which he says along with the Indian Research and Analysis Wing (RAW) intelligence agency prepared the official story for the deaths.

The real reason for the murders, argues Madsen, is that the dead king was a strong nationalist who refused to allow Royal Nepal Army involvement or outside intervention in the civil war which has been spreading across Nepal starting in 1996. The king was working hard on trying to develop a negotiated solution to the conflict with the insurgents, who above all else are nationalists fighting to maintain Nepal's independence and prevent it from becoming another Indian state like Sikkim. With his death and the installation of the present king, who has large export-oriented business ventures and strong ties with India, along with the pro-India, pro-globalization Congress Party prime minister, the way was opened for outside intervention into the insurgency and the consolidation of US and Indian control over the region.

Madsen says that the US sees Nepal as one more step in its encirclement of China with pro-US governments and military basis. India is interested in extending the British colonial legacy of regional geopolitical and commercial power and asserting its control over the large hydro resources available in the Nepal Himalaya. This year President-select Bush relatively quietly pushed a bill through Congress to fund 20 million dollars of military supplies to the Nepal government, doubling the $20 million economic aid previously given to Nepal (most of that going to extending US corporate values and supporting the development of a special US-friendly urban ruling class). Britain, of course, and India, and more recently the European community, and surprisingly, even China, have or are in the process of promising military support to the regime in Nepal in the country's civil war.

The pro-India, pro-globalization and pro-privatization Prime Minister in Nepal had declared a national emergency following the Royal massacre which suppressed civic rights and a free press and set about mobilizing the army against the insurgents. With 9/11, following the lead of President-select Bush, the insurgents were unapologetically termed "terrorists," opening the way for unrestrained war not just on the insurgents but on the rural population as a whole, along with all dissidents. Amnesty International, and other human rights organizations have been documenting atrocity after atrocity -- rapes, extra-legal killings, abductions, disappearances, burning of villages -- by the military far dwarfing those reputed to the insurgents.

In his communication to Monthly Review, Baburam argues that, given the broad popular support of the insurgency, which was initiated nearly seven years ago and now extends throughout the country, this is not terrorism but a civil war, and that the international intervention is illegal by any standard. Indeed, the war straddles a divide between a relatively small, urban-educated, western-oriented elite, created by a half-century of development and international aid, which is opposed to a large rural population, in a new twist in the old story of urban colonial enclaves such as were the product of French, British, and American rule in Southeast Asia.

Foreign aid and development over the last half century have led to the penetration of colonial-type bureaucratic structures into villages, not so much destroying the old feudal-type institutions as building atop and distorting them for their own purposes, greatly expanding inequality and undermining any vestiges of legitimacy. Supposed modernization of the country has dismantled community institutions that had once allowed villagers to assert some autonomy against the ruling classes, allowing the robbery of local communities of their forests, water and land. It has set up two school systems, one qualifying privileged elite young people for joining the international administrative and professional classes, and the other, using a poor semblance of education that removes children from the land but offers little in return and a nationwide examination system, disqualifying the mass majority of young people for any role in their country, forcing them to search for jobs abroad and forcing over two percent of the country's women into sex bondage, with the direct involvement of many ruling politicians.

Baburam points out that it was the creation of two nations, one of a relatively small number of elites and the other the large majority of villagers and urban laborers, that has created the divide across which rages the civil war.

Well, a way of life is gone and Nepal is now being "Globalized":

Nepal's Stalled Revolution
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/23/opini ... .html?_r=2
QuoteKathmandu is rife with rumors that the Constituent Assembly — the country's only elected body — will be dissolved through a military-backed "democratic coup."

Unable to earn a living wage at home, up to 1,000 Nepalis are estimated to leave the country every day to work as migrant laborers in Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Qatar and elsewhere in the Middle East and the Far East, often under very exploitative conditions.

Orphaned or Stolen? The U.S. State Department investigates adoption from Nepal, 2006-2008
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/schuster- ... 25451.html
QuoteChildren abducted from their families for international adoption, so that middlemen could profit from Westerners' cash. Families that left their babies temporarily with a child welfare center during times of illness or financial distress--only to discover on returning that, to their horror, their children had been sent away forever to Spain, Italy, or the U.S. A "demand and supply" effect: when international adoptions were suspended, reported "abandonments" drop.

Nepal Lesbian Wedding: U.S. Couple Weds In Nation's First Public Same-Sex Ceremony
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/06/2 ... ml#s294953
QuoteA lawyer and a college professor from the United States celebrated Nepal's first public lesbian wedding ceremony Monday in the Himalayan nation that recently began recognizing gay rights and drafting laws to end sexual discrimination.

Jamie

HI,
I am James Roux's son and I am interested in talking to you further about the mysteries you perceive involving his death. I am particularly interested in the claim that Mohamed Atta contacted my fathers weed dealer before the events of 9/11 and claimed that he (Mohamed Atta) was friends with my father.

Michael K.

If you are then we will talk.  PM me.

I want you to re-read this line:

QuoteMohammed Atta tried to buy a bag of weed from my friend on Sept. 10, saying it was safe because he was a friend of James M. Roux, whom my friend was a steady dealer to.

I didn't say that Jim Roux knew Atta, although that is one possible explanation of many.  Maybe Atta was boasting, demonstrating that he knew all about Roux, was spying on him, in which case maybe there was no personal relationship.  I don't know, just examining the mystery and faithfully reporting what I have seen or heard.

Michael K.

In any case, the fact is that I didn't say, and my friend didn't say that Atta and him were friends.  My friend was scared and didn't know what this Atta guy and his little gang of friends were all about until later.  Atta allegedly said it, and nobody else, get it?

Jamie

what does PM mean? the site wont let me email you directly.

Michael K.

Go up to the blue bar above and look for "User Control Panel".  Click on that.  Then go to the "private message" tab and compose, and send to me.  It should all work.

Michael K.

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American Airlines: "Flights 11 and 77 did not fly on 9-11"

Postby Michael K. » Fri Feb 03, 2012 10:37 pm
http://www.opinion-maker.org/2012/01/aa ... y-on-911/#

    AA Exposes Bush's 'Big Lie': Flight 11 DID NOT FLY on 911!

    Posted on 31. Jan, 2012 by Len Hart

    American Airlines itself is the source for information that AA Flights 11 (North Tower) and 77 (Pentagon) did not fly on 911. These flights are critical to the the government's crumbling cover up! Bush's 'official conspiracy theory' of 911 is, therefore, a lie! If either of those 'flights' were mothballed on 9/11, then Bush's 'big lie' –the official conspiracy theory –is not merely false, it is a bald-faced lie!

    Conan Doyle, the brilliant creator of the character Sherlock Holmes, said: "When you have eliminated the impossible whatever remains however implausible must be the truth!" You can, therefore, eliminate Bush's official conspiracy theory of 911! It is not only impossible, it's absurd and insulting to intelligent people!

    The Bush Conspiracy Theory is a Lie. If neither flight was in the air as American Airlines itself has so stated, then numerous 'official versions' of the 'official conspiracy theory' are but a pack of malicious lies. There is, then, probable cause to indict Bush and his co-conspirators for the crimes of mass murder and high treason. See: U. S. Codes, Title 18, Section 2441. That includes every statement made by Bush.

    WikiScanner discovered that it was American Airlines itself which changed their Wikipedia entry to state that Flights 11 and 77 did not fly on 9/11. The original entry was as follows:

    Two American Airlines aircraft were hijacked and crashed during the September 11, 2001 Terrorist Attack: American Airlines Flight 77 (a Boeing 757) and American Airlines Flight 11 (a Boeing 767).
    New entry [as of the date of this article] is as follows and includes the bolded text below:
    Two American Airlines aircraft were hijacked and crashed during the September 11, 2001 Terrorist Attack: Flight 77 (a Boeing 757) and Flight 11 (a Boeing 767).

    Although these flights were daily departures before and a month after September 11, 2001. Neither flight 11 nor 77 were scheduled on September 11, 2001. The records kept by the Bureau of Transportation Statistics (http://www.bts.gov/gis/) do not list either flight that day.

    –Wikipedia

    To make the point: the source for these changes is American Airlines by making changes to Wikipedia. The 'story' is not Wiki. The story is not about Wiki. The story is about how AA 'corrected' a wiki entry. The story is about the fact that the evidence that Flights 11 and 77 were not flying on 911 comes from American Airlines itself.

    According to a Freedom of Information Act reply from the U.S. Bureau of Transportation Statistics (BTS), the last known pre-9/11 flights for three of the four aircraft involved in the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001 took place in December, 2000, nine months before the attacks, while no pre-9/11 final flight information was provided for American Airlines flight 77 (N644AA).

    However, a discovered searchable online BTS database produces the following search results for three of the four 9/11 aircraft on September 10, 2001:

    AA 11 departs San Francisco (SFO): AA 09/10/2001 0198 (flight number) N334AA (tail number) BOS (destination) 22:04 (wheels-off time)

    UA 175 departs San Francisco (SFO): UA 09/10/2001 0170 (flight number) N612UA (tail number) BOS (destination) 13:44 (wheels-off time)

    UA 93 departs San Francisco (SFO): UA 09/10/2001 0078 (flight number) N591UA (tail number) EWR (destination) 23:15 (wheels-off time)

    –911 Blogger, UPDATE: U.S. BTS FOIA Records For 9/11 Planes Differ From BTS Online Database [The records were obtained by Adrian Monaghan]

    The question is raised: how do we know who made the changes to Wiki? Everyone logged on to the internet does so from an IP address. In this case, the IP is that of American Airlines. It's traceable.

    My own WHOIS lookup as well as my Google search of the IP address proves conclusively that it was –indeed –American Airlines that made the change. It is, therefore, American Airlines that has said that neither Flight 11 nor Flight 77 were in the air on 911.

    Therefore, the Bush theory of 911 is a deliberate lie.

    My look up returned the following:

    WHOIS - 144.9.8.21

    Location: United States [City: Ft. Worth, Texas]

    OrgName: American Airlines Incorporated
    OrgID: AMERIC-112
    Address: P.O.Box 619616
    Address: MD 5308
    City: DFW Airport
    StateProv: TX
    PostalCode: 75261
    Country: US

    NetRange: 144.9.0.0 - 144.9.255.255
    CIDR: 144.9.0.0/16
    NetName: AANET
    NetHandle: NET-144-9-0-0-1
    Parent: NET-144-0-0-0-0
    NetType: Direct Assignment
    NameServer: DNS-P1.SABRE.COM
    NameServer: DNS-P2.SABRE.COM
    NameServer: DNS-P3.SABRE.COM
    NameServer: DNS-P4.SABRE.COM
    Comment:
    RegDate: 1990-10-31
    Updated: 2002-06-27

    RTechHandle: OG60-ARIN
    RTechName: Gelbrich, Orf
    RTechPhone: +1-817-931-3145
    RTechEmail: ************@aa.com

    OrgTechHandle: ZW72-ARIN
    OrgTechName: WARIS, ZISHAN
    OrgTechPhone: +1-817-967-1242
    OrgTechEmail: ************@aa.com

    # ARIN WHOIS database, last updated 2008-06-29 19:10
    # Enter ? for additional hints on searching ARIN's WHOIS database.

    The many lies are, in themselves, probable cause to begin a Federal Grand Jury investigation of George W. Bush's role in 911. Bush should be compelled by subpoena and Federal Marshals to testify under oath before an independent Federal Grand Jury. The AA revelations demand it! Bush lies have the effect of covering up the truth, protecting the guilty and obstructing justice. The lies are an insult to the families of 911 victims, victims dishonored by the continuing cover-up! Bush's lies aggravate the crimes of mass murder, terrorism and high treason for which the penalty must surely be death.

    911 did not happen as we have been told. Bushco's 'official conspiracies theory' of 911 is full of holes. Flights 11 and 77 are essential ingredients in the 'official conspiracy theory' of 911. That AA claims that neither 11 nor 77 were in the air that day sinks Bush's theory.

    More importantly, however, it should get him an 'invitation' to appear before a Federal Grand Jury to answers charges that he betrayed his nation and waged war upon the people. Clearly –the official theory is a lie, an intentional cover-up. Cover-ups imply guilt! Otherwise –what is there to cover up? The official 'lie' goes like this:

    At 8:20, Flight 11 stopped transmitting its transponder signal, and veered northward and departed dramatically from the westward heading of its planned route. The controllers concluded that the plane had probably been hijacked. 4 5 At 8:24, the following transmission was reportedly received from Flight 11: We have some planes. Just stay quiet and you'll be okay .. we are returning to the airport.

    ..Nobody move. Everything will be okay. If you try to make any moves, you'll endanger yourself and the airplane. Just stay quiet. Nobody move please we are going back to the airport .. don't try to make any stupid moves. 6

    Neither of the pilots pressed the distress call button. At 8:28 controllers reportedly watched the plane make a 100-degree turn toward the south. 7 Presumably, Flight 11 continued south along the Hudson River until it reached the World Trade Center, though documentation of this is sparse given the lack of public information.

    According to NORAD's September 18 timeline, the FAA did not notify NORAD of the signs that Flight 11 was hijacked until 8:40, 25 minutes after the first signs of trouble. 8

    –Flight 11, The First Jet Commandeered on September 11th, 911 Research

    Simply: if AA Flight 11 was not in the air, it could not have struck the towers; ergo: the Bush theory is false!

    The house of cards collapses

    Assertions that Flight 11 struck the North Tower that are baseless, lacking evidence or proof! If neither Flight 11 mor 77 was in the air that day, the Bush administration's version of events must be utterly discarded.

    If flights 11 or 77 did not fly on 911, officialdom must come up with another explanation to explain the the events of 911. No wreckage traceable to a 757 was ever found at the Pentagon.

    One would not expect to find wreckage of a flight never flown. What is significant with respect to the changes to Wiki with respect to BTS/NTSB records is that the burden of proof is now placed upon Bushco to prove its theory –or shut up and face charges resulting from the probable cause that Bush himself and high ranking members of his administration participated in the crimes of mass murder and high treason!

    Photos of an engine rotor appear to depict an engine used in the Global Hawk, a payload carrying missile that was, according to Britain's International Television News, flown from the US to Australia completely by remote control. "A robot plane has made aviation history by becoming the first unmanned aircraft to fly across the Pacific Ocean."
    Britain's ITN continued:

    "The Global Hawk, a jet-powered aircraft with a wingspan equivalent to a Boeing 737, flew from Edwards Air Force Base in California and landed late on Monday at the Royal Australian Air Force base at Edinburgh, in South Australia state... It flies along a pre-programmed flight path, but a pilot monitors the aircraft during its flight via a sensor suite which provides infra-red and visual images."

    ITN quoted Australian Global Hawk manager Rod Smith: "The aircraft essentially flies itself, right from takeoff, right through to landing, and even taxiing off the runway."

    'The Missile that Struck this Building' –Donald Rumsfeld

    The Global Hawk is a much better candidate for what Rumsfeld called '...the missile that struck this building' than a 757.

    Here's what you need to know about the Pentagon.

    Only minutes after the strike, there is no sign of an airliner at all!!

    No wreckage traceable to a 757 was ever recovered.
    Only ONE engine rotor (seen in photos) was recovered! This rotor is about one third the diameter of a 757 rotor, i.e about the size of a U.S. Global Hawk rotor.
    A 757 has two rotors, each of which are nearly three times the size of the SINGLE rotor located at the Pentagon. Again –only one rotor was found in Pentagon debris.
    Engine rotors are made of a Steel/Titanium alloy to withstand high temps inside jet engines and would have been found had they been there.
    Flight 77 could not and did not crash into the Pentagon.

    No Arabs Were on Board 77. If no Arabs were on board Flight 77, Bush's theory must be trashed! There is not only no evidence to support the theory that Arab terrorists hijacked 77, there is every reason to believe that none of ever got on board. There are no Arabs on the only Pentagon 'evidence' that is admissible in court: the 'Official Autopsy Report' of Pentagon victims.

    The autopsy report was released to Dr. Olmsted in response to his FOIA request. In a 'neat' cover-up, a 911 memorial lists all victims of whatever it was that crashed into the Pentagon. At the same time, 77 victims were said to have been buried at Arlington National Cemetery. Where, then, are the passengers buried? I will surprised to learn that there were passengers on a flight that cannot be proven beyond a reasonable doubt to have existed.

    Whatever crashed into the Pentagon was described by a witnesses as looking like a 'hump-backed whale'. Rumsfeld himself called it a missile: Below: a US Global Hawk painted to look like an AA airliner. It is both a 'missile' and it also has a hump back!

    The photo below does not purport to be the craft that would ultimately crash into the Pentagon. It merely demonstrates how easily such a 'paint job' could dupe those who are 1) not experts on aircraft 2) saw it only for a second or less as it scooted across the Pentagon lawn as NO 757 could possible have done 3) were, in any case, caught off guard.

    Recognizing lies for what they are is a part of the process of growing up! America, it is time to grow up! It is time to confront this heinous pack of lies! It is time to insist that the Obama administration begin a REAL investigation of 911.

    It is time to insist that a Federal Grand Jury investigate every count of high treason, mass murder and domestic terrorism that was perpetrated upon the people of the US by the Bush administration, his collaborators in the Pentagon, K-Street, the Congress and the leadership of the Republican party, Marvin Bush's 'Securacom', Larry Silverstein who ordered WTC 7 be 'pulled', General Myers, Donald Rumsfeld, Dick Cheney and, of course, George W. Bush who was, at the time, the 'Commander-in-Chief' and ultimately responsible for the orders given the US military to 'stand down'

    By Donald Rumsfeld's own admission, he was unaware of any threats to the Pentagon — the building where he was located during the September 11th attacks — until an aircraft crashed into the side of it, and he ran out "into the smoke" to see if it might be a "A bomb? I had no idea." (ABC News This Week, Interview 9/16/01).

    Well, that's a pretty tall tale by any standard. The New York Times reported that by 8:13am, the FAA was aware of the first hijacking out of Boston. The Pentagon explosion, which Donald Rumsfeld claimed he had "no idea," did not occur until approximately 9:37am, nearly an hour and a half later, this after two of the tallest buildings in the world were devastated. Note that a plane hijacked out of Boston can reach Washington D.C. as easily as it can reach New York City.

    It was widely reported that Pentagon personnel were indeed aware of the threats to their security, and they took security measures on that morning. But not the "Secretary of Defense." Why should the man charged with defending the United States of America concern himself with hijacked aircraft?

    There is a set of procedures for responding to hijackings. In particular, these procedures were changed on June 1, 2001 while Rumsfeld was in power as our Secretary of Defense, in a document called: "CHAIRMAN OF THE JOINT CHIEFS OF STAFF INSTRUCTION, J-3 CJCSI 3610.01A"

    "Was 911 a Conspiracy?"is NOT the question. Even Bushco claims that it was a conspiracy, a conspiracy of 19 Arab Hijackers who could not possibly have pulled it off. It is, frankly, a stupid scenario! Without the shock and awe campaign, no one would have believed it. The questions, rather, are which conspiracy and who were the conspirators? It was Sir Arthur Conan Doyle's character Sherlock Holmes who said that when you have eliminated the impossible what remains however improbable MUST be the truth!

    ADDENDUM:

    There has been a spate of fallacious comments of the form: "...uh...what happened the passengers, dude?". A few points:

    The 'question' is, in fact, an implied statement and ASSUMES there were flights! In a court, it would be said that the statement 'assumes facts NOT in evidence'! Absence of evidence is not evidence in support of anything, let alone Bush's idiotic, fallacious and pernicious lie! ! The 'absence of bodies' is not evidence of a crash of any sort; only the presence of bodies traceable to the alleged flights are evidence supporting Bush's unsupportable theory.

    The only available evidence, moreover, disproves the Bushco conspiracy theory of 911. There is no evidence whatsoever that there were –at any time –any Arabs of any sort (terrorist or otherwise) on board Flight 77, a flight for which there is no evidence whatsoever.

    The AFIP suggest these numbers; 189 killed, 125 worked at the Pentagon and 64 were "passengers" on the plane. The AA list only had 56 and the list just obtained has 58. They did not explain how they were able to tell "victims" bodies from "hijacker" bodies. In fact, from the beginning NO explanation has been given for the extra five suggested in news reports except that the FBI showed us the pictures to make up the difference, and that makes it so.

    Now, being the trusting sort, I figured that the government would want to quickly dispel any rumors so we could get on with the chore of kicking Osama/Sadaam's butt (weren't these originally two different people?). It seemed simple to me. . .produce the names of all the bodies identified by the AFIP and compare it with the publicized list of passengers. So, I sent a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request to the AFIP and asked for an expedited response, because we were getting ready to send our boys to war on the pretext that Osama/Saddam had done the deed. Fourteen months later, a few US soldiers dead, many Iraqi civilians pushing up daisies, and I finally get the list. Believe me that they weren't a bit happy to give it up, and I really have no idea why they choose now to release it.

    No Arabs wound up on the morgue slab; however, three ADDITIONAL people not listed by American Airlines sneaked in. I have seen no explanation for these extras. I did American the opportunity to "revise" their original list, but they have not responded. The new names are: Robert Ploger, Zandra Ploger, and Sandra Teague. The AFIP claims that the only "passenger" body that they were not able to identify is the toddler, Dana Falkenberg, whose parents and young sister are on the list of those identified. The satanic masterminds behind this caper may be feeling pretty smug about the perfect crime, but they have left a raft of clues tying these unfortunates together.

    –Thomas R. Olmsted, M.D., Autopsy: No Arabs on Flight 77

    Worth repeating and in summary: the last known pre-9/11 flights for three of the four aircraft involved in the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001 took place in December, 2000, nine months before the attacks.

    Unaccounted for passengers is among the biggest holes in Bush's cover story

    If Bush cannot explain the absence of airliner wreckage or the alleged 'missing passengers', then his official theory must be discounted as utter bunkum, a pack of malicious lies. Unlike wine, neither crap nor propaganda improves with age.

    Anyone believing that there were such flights AND that there were passengers on board should insist that a Federal Prosecutor put Bush on the witness stand in front of a federal grand jury where the question is put to him: 'what was the fate of the passengers on flights 77 and 11?'

    It would be very interesting to learn how he might manage to escape his experience without indictments for perjury, obstruction of justice, mass murder and, of course, high treason for having wage war upon the people of the United States.

    Concerning possible charges of 'high treason' against Bush: was it not Bush who declared that we were at war? Was it not Bush and his shills who insisted that the US attack, invasion and occupation of Iraq was in response to an 'attack' upon the US? Have not Bush partisans insisted, from the 'gitgo' that the US attack, invasion and occupation of Iraq was part and parcel of the US 'war on terrorism'? That being the case, Bush's complicity in the events of 911 are most certainly acts of betrayal against a sovereign in a time of war and, therefore, high treason.

    Among a growing number of links back to this article is this excellent expose of the Flight 77 fraud:

    According to the official story, AA Flight 77, a Boeing 757, took off from Dulles Airport in northern Virginia at 8:10 a.m. bound for Los Angeles, with between 50 and 58 passengers. It flew west for about 45 minutes, making a curious detour to the north, west and south, before turning around and flying for another 45 minutes back to Washington. Why hijackers would allow a jet which they planned to crash into a target in Washington to fly for 45 minutes away from its target is not explained. Why did they not commandeer the plane ten minutes after takeoff when the plane was only ten minutes flying time from its intended target? The official story ignores this question, as it does all other questions.

    As reported by the New York Times (International Herald Tribune, 2001-10-17, p.8), as AA 77 approached the Pentagon it executed a 270-degree 7,000-foot descent over Washington while flying at 500 mph. It approached the Pentagon on a horizontal trajectory so low that it clipped the power lines across the street then (so the story goes) it smashed into an outer wall of the Pentagon.

    We were told (and, of course, expected to believe without question) that this maneuver was executed by an Arab pilot, Hani Hanjour, who in August 2001 was judged by the chief flight instructor at Bowie's Maryland Freeway Airport as not having the piloting skills required to fly a Cessna 172 solo. (Is there something fishy here?)

    In contrast to the attention given to the collapse of the Twin Towers, the attack on the Pentagon received little attention until in February 2002 a French website (by Thierry Meyssan) appeared which reproduced images obtained from U.S. Army websites: Hunt the Boeing! These images cast doubt upon the official story that the Pentagon was hit by a Boeing 757 jetliner. For example, here is a picture of the Pentagon crash site taken about two hours after the impact, with the fire still burning. Can you see any remains of the approximately 100 tons of metal (including engines, wings, and tail section) which makes up a Boeing 757? ...

    –Pentagon Official Story Hoax