How ‘Jewish' was Joseph Pulitzer? With notes on Drew Barrymore as a Crypto-Jew

Started by CrackSmokeRepublican, December 03, 2011, 03:32:11 PM

Previous topic - Next topic

CrackSmokeRepublican

I found some interesting points that I'm trying to confirm related to Mako, Hungary.  Clearly, Joseph Pulitzer is now known as a Full Jew according to records.

Drew Barrymore's mother is Jaid Mako.  Mako was a town that many Jews began to settle at in the 1700s. Often times, Jews adopted the name of the town they settled in while keeping a Yiddish family name.  
-----

QuoteMAKO (Hung. Makó), town in S. Hungary. Jews were first authorized to settle in Mako in 1740. In 1748 they founded a ḥevra kaddisha in the town.

-----
Here's another example of a Hungarian Jew:

QuoteGeza Vermes

Geza Vermes (born 22 June 1924) is a Jewish scholar and writer on religious history, particularly Jewish and Christian. He is a noted authority on the Dead Sea Scrolls and other ancient works in Aramaic, and a controversial but respected authority on the life and religion of Jesus. Vermes' written work on Jesus focuses principally on Jesus the Jew, as seen in the broader context of the narrative scope of Jewish history and theology.


He was born in Mako, Hungary, in 1924 to Jewish parents. All three were baptised as Roman Catholics when he was seven. His mother and journalist father died in the Holocaust
http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/Geza-Vermes

----

Jaid Barrymore (born May 8, 1946) is a German-born Hungarian-American actress, best known as Drew Barrymore's mother.




Early life

She was born Ildikó Jaid Makó to a concert violinist mother and an artist father.[citation needed] Her parents were Hungarian World War II refugees (JEWISH?--Sounds like they got out of the camps...--CSR) and she was born in a displaced persons camp  <:^0  (?) in Brannenburg, West Germany, later growing up in Pennsylvania, United States.[1]

Personal life

She married John Drew Barrymore in 1971, with whom she had a daughter, actress Drew Barrymore. They divorced in 1984.

Jaid Barrymore appeared in Playboy magazine in September 1995, eight months after her daughter Drew's pictorial was featured in the magazine.

-----------------

Connection of name "Mako" to a "Jewish" town in Hungary called Mako. Joseph Pulitzer II (Pulitzer Prize) was born in Mako as a Jew.

Joseph Pulitzer II and the Post-dispatch: a newspaperman's life
 By Daniel W. Pfaff

Page 400

---------
QuoteHow 'Jewish' was Joseph Pulitzer?

Posted: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 2:35 pm | Updated: 3:55 pm, Wed Aug 10, 2011.

BY ROBERT A. COHN, EDITOR-IN-CHIEF EMERITUS | 0 comments

Jewish Americans have always taken pride in the fact that according to widely held beliefs and published sources, the original Joseph Pulitzer (1847-1911), founding editor and publisher of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch, and namesake of the most prestigious prizes in American journalism, was of at least partly Jewish parentage.

However, a local writer has helped to shine light on a Hungarian historian's research that shows both of Pulitzer's parents were, in fact, Jewish.

The entries for Pulitzer in the 1979 and 2007 editions of the Encyclopedia Judaica note that Pulitzer was born in 1847 in Mako, Hungary, son of a Jewish father and a Roman Catholic mother.

The persistent belief that Pulitzer was Jewish only on his father's side (and hence, according to the matrilineal descent rules of traditional rabbinic Judaism was technically not born a Jew), remained a constant throughout the life of Joseph Pulitzer, who never published an autobiography and never corrected the misinformation regarding his mother's Jewishness.

He also avoided discussing the subject in interviews and conversations throughout his life. But thanks to meticulous research by James Palmer, a member of the St. Louis Jewish community with a strong interest in Jewish history, there is no longer any doubt that both of Pulitzer's parents were "fully Jewish."

Palmer, who works as director of communications for the St. Louis-based nonprofit agency Boys Hope Girls Hope, published his significant and thoroughly documented findings in the 2008 edition of Gateway, the magazine of the Missouri History Museum. Palmer's article, "Speculations on Joseph Pulitzer: Gadfly and Mystery Man," brings to light earlier research by Hungarian scholar Andras Csillag on Pulitzer's Jewish mother, and clarifies once and for all that Joseph Pulitzer had not just one, but two Jewish parents.

To be sure, Pulitzer never denied that his father was Jewish, had numerous Jewish business contacts and close friends who were Jewish, and suffered from the slings and arrows of vicious anti-Semitism, from which he never flinched.

Apparently, Pulitzer's obsession with privacy and secretiveness was especially acute when it came to discussing his ethnic and religious origins. Writes Palmer: "Joseph Pulitzer never expressed any religious views and appears to have been a confirmed skeptic after the Enlightenment model. Nevertheless, one must not dismiss the effect of religion on him. In order to understand him more fully, one must consider Joseph Pulitzer not from an American perspective, but from that of which he came: Eastern European Jewish culture and history."

Until recently, Palmer says, "historians took for granted the standard account of Pulitzer's ancestry." There is no record of Pulitzer himself actually stating this version of his ancestry, but early biographers, all of whom knew him personally, are unanimous on this account of his origins, indicating that they heard it from Pulitzer himself, who did nothing to correct the record on his mother's Jewishness.

Then Palmer delivers his historical bombshell: "However, recent research based on Hungarian-Jewish archival documents has established that both his parents were fully Jewish; that in accordance with Jewish law (Joseph Pulitzer) was circumcised eight days after his birth; and that he received a traditional Jewish upbringing. His older brother Louis (or Lajos) attended Mako's cheder (Jewish primary school) and there is no reason to think that Joseph's education differed."

In my telephone and email contacts with Palmer, he stressed the importance of a groundbreaking paper by Andras Csillag, "The Hungarian Origins of Joseph Pulitzer," published in the journal Hungarian Studies back in 1987. Csillag's article cites definitive secular and Jewish records from Hungary that leave no doubt that both Philip and Louise Berger Pulitzer were Jewish in every sense. Each of them was registered by the official Jewish registry (conscription) "under the heading of Religion as "Israelitic" and under Nationality as "Jewish."

Csillag adds, "Besides, there are other official records from this time, such as e.g., registers of issued passes and passports, which among the particulars and various other data, state the religion as well. They also confirm that Mrs. Pulitzer was also a Jew born in Hungary."

Palmer makes it clear that Pulitzer's motivation to "allow this false pedigree to stand," was "slightly more complicated than simple avoidance of anti-Semitism."

He notes that Pulitzer, after being discharged from the Union Army in 1865 and coming to St. Louis three years later was "closely associated with other St. Louis Jewish businessmen, including Joseph Weill and A.S. Aloe, father of Louis Aloe, and purchased the moribund St. Louis Dispatch through a proxy, Simon (Sam) Arnold, who like Pulitzer was Jewish and a Civil War veteran.

Later Pulitzer merged his paper with the St. Louis Post, and the St. Louis Post-Dispatch was born. He also bought the New York Jewish World and for a period owned and operated both papers. Pulitzer, while remaining "mysterious and secretive" about the details of his Jewish parentage, is said by Palmer to have had an association with the St. Louis Jewish community that was "both comfortable and beneficial." He adds that Pulitzer maintained connections with the St. Louis Jewish community. He writes that Rabbi Samuel Sale of Congregation Shaare Emeth was invited to speak at Pulitzer's 60th birthday party in St. Louis, where he described Pulitzer in vividly Jewish terms, comparing him to biblical and Talmudic figures.

Even close to 30 years after Pulitzer's death, Temple Israel's Rabbi Ferdinand M. Isserman "spoke of Pulitzer with almost familial pride in a radio sermon," Palmer notes.

Pulitzer, clearly one of history's most influential American journalists, was thus an acculturated Jew who married an Episcopalian and did not raise his children as Jews. However, he was intensely Jewish in his temperament and commitment to social justice.

He was, Palmer observes, a Jew "who did not flee Judaism so much as transcend it. Paradoxically, it was his Eastern European Jewish background that enabled him to do so. Being Jewish gave Pulitzer those characteristics and abilities that set him apart from his contemporaries; it informed his motivations and actions throughout his life."

Indeed, to this very day, Pulitzer's values, which bridge the Jewishness of his parentage and the universality of his 19th and early 20th century Enlightenment are expressed eloquently in the St. Louis Post-Dispatch Platform, which has been published on the Editorial Page of every edition of the paper since his retirement in 1907:

"I know that my retirement will make no difference in its cardinal principles, that it will always fight any party, always oppose privileged classes and public plunderers, never lack sympathy with the poor, always remain devoted to the public welfare, never be satisfied with merely printing news, always be drastically independent, never be afraid to attack wrong, whether by predatory plutocracy or predatory poverty."  -- Joseph Pulitzer, April 10, 1907

To which his fellow Jews can say, "Amen!"

http://www.stljewishlight.com/blogs/coh ... 002e0.html

-----


----------

QuoteAbout Hungary: Jewish Census, 1848

Historical Background:

The 1848 Hungarian Jewish Census (The Census) was known by its Latin name, Conscriptio Judaerum. 1848. It is a survey of Jews in Hungary compiled after the failed Hungarian 1848 Revolution against Austria in the spring of that year. Though most of it was completed in 1848, in some counties (megye) it spilled over into 1849. Most of the counties followed the same pattern and were supposed to collect the same data. However, as no forms were supplied the data was collected in some cases on printed forms, but in most cases on plain paper with each recorder following his own locally created hand drawn form or pattern.

The "Census" covered all the counties of Greater Hungary as we refer to the territories under the Hungarian Crown prior to 1918, which included, among others, parts of Slovakia, Croatia, Ukraine and Romania.

This is an all-Jewish Census. The only exception might be records for "non Jewish household domestic help". The Census is the best source of information on Hungarian Jewry for the 19th Century, as by then Jews had a last name, and it contains people born in the late part of the 18th century, the early part of the 19th century, and those who would still be alive in the late 19th century and early 20th century.

The question always arises as to whether it is complete, or at least complete for the counties and locations covered. Nobody can answer that question. Though some of the counties do appear not to cover all areas. All we can say is that it is the best we have for that point in time.

Sources Used:

Unfortunately, we do not have access to the entire Census. The main available source at the present time consists of data that was made available to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS), and was microfilmed in 1970, on seven microfilms. Other records not included in the LDS collection are becoming available. For example, the original records of Szatmar Megye are located in Nyíregyháza County Archive.
http://search.ancestry.com/search/db.aspx?dbid=1382
After the Revolution of 1905, the Czar had prudently prepared for further outbreaks by transferring some $400 million in cash to the New York banks, Chase, National City, Guaranty Trust, J.P.Morgan Co., and Hanover Trust. In 1914, these same banks bought the controlling number of shares in the newly organized Federal Reserve Bank of New York, paying for the stock with the Czar\'s sequestered funds. In November 1917,  Red Guards drove a truck to the Imperial Bank and removed the Romanoff gold and jewels. The gold was later shipped directly to Kuhn, Loeb Co. in New York.-- Curse of Canaan

kolnidre

It's only fitting that a little girl that splashed to fame by uttering the lines, "Shut up, penis breath!" and would later have a spread in Playboy as a young teen, would be a Jewess. Got to admit she was cute in The Wedding Singer, which I still like despite Sandler. Excellent research, CSR.
Take heed to yourself lest you make a covenant with the inhabitants of the land whither you go, lest it become a snare in the midst of you.
-Exodus 34]

Timothy_Fitzpatrick

Fitzpatrick Informer:

CrackSmokeRepublican

Quote from: "Timothy_Fitzpatrick"What's shut up penis breath from?


I thought maybe the original "J-show" -- Close Encounters of the "Jew" described Kind... aliens from the DP... Holohoax...Jewish "stench" re-invented for a new generation..  0:)
After the Revolution of 1905, the Czar had prudently prepared for further outbreaks by transferring some $400 million in cash to the New York banks, Chase, National City, Guaranty Trust, J.P.Morgan Co., and Hanover Trust. In 1914, these same banks bought the controlling number of shares in the newly organized Federal Reserve Bank of New York, paying for the stock with the Czar\'s sequestered funds. In November 1917,  Red Guards drove a truck to the Imperial Bank and removed the Romanoff gold and jewels. The gold was later shipped directly to Kuhn, Loeb Co. in New York.-- Curse of Canaan