Irish President De Valera was a British spy (Jewish spy)

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Yammitor

QuoteDe Valera was a British spy'
Book claims national hero was 'turned' after 1916

By John Spain Books Editor
Monday October 26 2009

http://www.independent.ie/national-news ... 24389.html

A NEW book to be published next month makes the shocking claim that Eamon de Valera, the founding father of the nation, was under the control of the British.

The book, provocatively titled 'England's Greatest Spy: Eamon de Valera', suggests that Dev was terrified of being executed after the Rising and was "turned" in exchange for his life. For some years afterwards, the book claims, Dev was under British control.

The 470-page hardback is published by Stacey International, a London publisher specialising in politics and history.
 
The author is retired US naval officer and historian John Turi from Princeton, New Jersey. He developed an interest in Irish history through his wife, who was born in Ireland. Turi has been researching his controversial book for a decade.

The case against de Valera by Turi is based firstly on a detailed analysis of Dev's emotionally stunted formative years.

He claims Dev was rejected by everyone in his early life -- his mysterious father in New York (in fact, Dev was probably illegitimate), his mother, his uncle in Ireland, who treated him coldly, even the Church, which rejected his ambitions for the priesthood because of his probable illegitimacy.

His miserable upbringing left Dev with an inadequate personality, Turi suggests, which made him susceptible to being influenced later on.

Turi is scathing about Dev's erratic behaviour during the Rising, when he was in charge of the men at Boland's Mill.

He stayed awake for days, became disorientated and issued confused, sometimes ridiculous, orders. "It was not just his tactics the men questioned," Turi writes, "they questioned his sanity as well."

Dev kept his men "sitting on their heels" while a short distance away at Mount Street Bridge eight Volunteers were trying to hold off hundreds of British soldiers.

In fact the men at Boland's Mill played little or no part in the Easter Week fighting, Turi says, because Dev was so exhausted and fearful.

At the end of the week, when word reached Boland's Mill of the surrender, Turi writes that de Valera "abandoned his men and slipped out of Boland's at noon on the Sunday, taking with him a British prisoner . . . as his insurance against being shot before he could surrender".

Cowardly

"De Valera the cowardly, incompetent, mentally unstable officer who deserted his troops was (later) repackaged as de Valera the lonely hero fighting valiantly against overwhelming odds."

What followed was also suspicious, Turi says.

Dev later claimed that he was tried with a number of other men and sentenced to death.

Turi writes: "Not one of the men allegedly tried with de Valera ever confirmed that such a trial took place, and there is no trace in the British Public Record Office of any trial."

He also quotes the flat denial by the army prosecuting officer, William Wylie, that de Valera had been tried.


Turi also considers Dev's fragile mental state and tearful collapse at Richmond Barracks the night before he was taken to Kilmainham, to where condemned prisoners were sent.

All the events indicate that Dev was terrified of dying, Turi suggests, and that it would have been easy for the British intelligence officer Ivor Price to turn Dev into a British collaborator. Major Price was "skilled at manipulating weakness".

Turi notes that Dev was the only one of four Dublin commandants not to be tried and executed.


He dismisses theories that Dev was spared because he was born in America or because the British realised that further executions would be a mistake; as others were executed later.

The only reasonable explanation, Turi claims, is that Dev was "turned". In all, Turi sets forth a dozen instances of what he calls "de Valera's machinations that aided and abetted British interests" to support this claim.

Collins

Some of this 'evidence' concerns Dev's activities in the US after he was released from prison -- which split the powerful Irish-American lobby.

Turi also says the British feared what Michael Collins might do in the North and used de Valera to engineer the situation that resulted in Collins's death.

Turi also calls Irish neutrality during the World War II "a hoax on the Irish people and a major boon for English interests".

His book, which ends with a call for a posthumous trial of de Valera, will be published in Ireland and Britain on November 30 and in the US next year.

- John Spain Books Editor

Irish Independent


"Cowardly Leader of Sephardic Ancestry "
QuotePresident of Ireland - In office 25 June 1959 – 24 June 1973
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Valera

De Valera was born in the New York Nursery and Child's Hospital in New York City in 1882 to an Irish mother; he stated that his parents, Catherine Coll (subsequently Mrs Wheelwright), an immigrant from Bruree, County Limerick, and Juan Vivion de Valera, a Cuban or Spanish settler and sculptor, were married on 18 September 1881 at St. Patrick's Church located within the Greenville Section of Jersey City, NJ.However, exhaustive trawls through church and state records give no birth, baptismal, or death certificate information for anyone called Juan Vivion de Valera or de Valeros, an alternative spelling. The historian Sean Murphy has listed the long-term search for facts about Mr de Valera, allowing that he may have come from New Mexico, and was perhaps returning there at the time of his death.

On de Valera's original birth certificate, his name is given as George De Valero and his father is listed as Vivion De Valero. The first name was corrected in 1910 (possibly 1916) to Edward and the surname to de Valera.


I think I'll have to go see how much the book costs.

I have been compiling my own evidence to support the above stated claims about De Valera, but I'll be looking to take it a bit further than this book and name him as a Jewish Agent who subverted Ireland from the beginning of its modern inception.
I have been building up my sources and information about De Valera. I have spoken to a few people about my suspicions on skype but I just have not had time to assemble everything and double check the sources, I hope this book might help me with that.

Orgin of Surmane : De Valera which is derivived from the name Valero
Quotehttp://genealogy.familyeducation.com/surname-origin/valero
Spanish and Jewish (Sephardic): habitational name from a place called Valero in Salamanca province.
QuoteValero and Quintanilla Sephardic names
http://boards.ancestry.com/topics.relig ... 05/mb.ashx

Valero and Quintanilla Sephardic names?
R_Resendiz  (View posts)    Posted: 20 Sep 2009 8:46PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Valero, Quintanilla
I am looking for information about Valero and Quintanilla last names. If they are jewish any information will be helpful. I am catholic however my family has several customs that what i've been told are jewish. When someone dies they cover the mirrors in the house. Also when someone dies they pray in a group like a minyan.

Re: Valero and Quintanilla Sephardic names?
DRJesseFlavioMM  (View posts)    Posted: 21 Sep 2009 3:29AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames:
It could certainly be Jewish Sephardic surnames. Some in this same tread post a long list of Sephardim surnames. However, with the information given by yourself it's very difficult to assure if this surnames are Sephardic or well they come from generations of assimilated Christians, Catholics or Conversos.

In brief to establish a Sephardic ancestry you must:
1. Have well recognized Jewish traditions and rituals, whether being religious Jew or not.
2. Trial papers indicating your family came from a Sephardic defined line and
3. DNA tests help, but the are not definitive to indicate an ethnic ancestry.

Hope this letter will help you to clarify your question,

Yours truly

Jesse

QuoteSearching for Jewish Valero

Searching for Jewish Valero
http://boards.ancestry.ca/thread.aspx?m ... mes.valero
Re: Searching for Jewish Valero
Maria A. Hernandez-Valero  (View posts)    Posted: 1 Feb 2004 4:21PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames:
Joseph: I believe that the Valero originated in Valencia, Spain. In 1492, many of the Valero's left Spain for all the countries you mentioned in your e-mail, but many others converted into Catolicism and left for the America's. My maternal grandfather's family went to Cuba, and unfortunately we had to leave Cuba due to political reasons, and reside now in the U. S. Even thyough you are Jewish, and I was born Catholic, we still could be relatives. I would like to know more about the Valero's that moved to Israel. I live in Houston now (I'm an epidemiologist), but the majority of my family in the U.S. lives in New Orleans and Miami, Fl. Maybe one day I can travel to Israel and meet you. Sincerely, MAHValero.

 
Re: Searching for Jewish Valero
ray69559  (View posts)    Posted: 5 Mar 2007 7:45AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames:
I'm not a valero but my great grandmother was. Her name was Altagracia Valero. She was born i think in Saltillo, Mexico.
I found out that a lot of the traditions she had the secret jews of texas also practiced. I was raised catholic but am converting to judaism. I would like to know more about the valero family.


Re: Searching for Jewish Valero
guenille1  (View posts)    Posted: 3 Feb 2008 12:25PM GMT
Classification: Lookup
Surnames:
Well i am a French Valero, I know that my great grand father left Santa Pola near Valencia on a fishing boat cerca 1850.Tthe story says because of the inquisition, but we are catholic, however when they arrived in Algeria and they settled in the jewish quarter Their children never learnt Spanish and we have a picture of my great grand mother with a little star of david neckless. I am aware of the fact that lot of jewish people become christian, but procticed judaism under cover. We cannot trace further information because both the churches where the records were supposedly kept, were burnt during period of unrest The spanish inquisition terminated in 1840. I don't know more that this but would like to.


Re: Searching for Jewish Valero
josephbglass  (View posts)    Posted: 26 Mar 2008 10:09PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Valero
I am pleased to inform you that my research on the Sephardi Jewish Valero family has recently been published. The book is entitled: "Sephardi Entrepreneurs in Jerusalem, The Valero Family, 1800-1948."

Joseph B. Glass




High concentrations of Valeros in New York Texas and California

http://www.ancestry.com/facts/Valero-fa ... story.ashx

I don't have time to post any more information now, so please give me a call or pm if anybody would like to talk about this subject or especially if you have any personal family knowledge regarding De Valera or the De Valera family. We can swap stories  :) .
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Yammitor

Lets not forget
QuoteIn Israel the De Valera Forest Rededicated - 40th Anniversary
http://www.kkl.org.il/kkl/english/main_ ... iversary.x









16 Leaders of the 1916 Rising were executed to clear a path, so the cowardly De Valera could slip into their shoes in the aftermath. A pattern of events that would be repeated years later as another path was cleared so De Valera could emerge as President of Ireland  :oops: .
This small example shows the quality of the leadership of which Ireland was deprived, a lost from which we have yet to recover.

The Words of Patrick Pearse
[youtube:2nyn9grv]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0PjKJ9nHS4[/youtube]2nyn9grv]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0PjKJ9nHS4


De Valera involvement in the murder of Micheal Collins is another matter, that needs to be exposed, not to mention his economic policies which resulted in stagnation and poverty or the lost Irish gold reserves.
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Ognir

I think I covered this 18 months ago and agree that he was our Jewish Zio Handler
Most zionists don't believe that God exists, but they do believe he promised them Palestine

- Ilan Pappe

jai_mann

This is good info. I was just starting to see the repetitive nature of the cleansing of the intelligensia class across cultures when Og covered the issue of food shortage and the involvement of jews who created the shortage. Your audio's on that issue were a huge eye opener that I needed to seriously reassess most major events where "food shortages" and where other mass deaths occurred. It hadn't quite sunk in at that point that all non-jews are targets for theft, abuse, torture, slavery, and death.

Thanks for more info on these characters. It would be great to get some sort of loose compendium put together regarding these kosher swine. Such a tome could easily be spread via torrents. Gotta get that info out there for when these jews step up their violent assaults on non-jews.

Ognir

Most zionists don't believe that God exists, but they do believe he promised them Palestine

- Ilan Pappe

Yammitor

Quote from: "Ognir"I think I covered this 18 months ago and agree that he was our Jewish Zio Handler

You certainly did credit goes to you there. I always had a funny feeling about De Valera mainly because of his unknown parentage. Your information 18 months ago connecting him to Israel and the forest was the trigger that allowed me to connect alot of the dots and finally understand De Valera and read between the lines to see how his actions benefited the zionists.
I just wanted to show his involvement in 1916, the death of Collins and Griffith, clear up some of the parentage issues by tracing his surname, lost gold reserves that ireland was to receive on exit of the British Empire which disappeared, and land payments collected from Irish land owners that were never paided to the British Gov. Whose pockets did all that money end up in ?

Personally I think the forest in Israel is a special "Thank you" from the Zionst leaders.
De Valera could have easily have provided a refuge for some of the poor 6 million jews that were being persecuted and gased  :o . However, De Valera providing refuge in Ireland for the jews during ww2 would have seriously hamperd the zionists plans to drive/ herd the jews of Europe to Palestine.

De Valera didn't allow the jews of europe entry into Ireland and temporary safety until the war was concluded, so he gets a forest to honour him in Israel. Thats the way i see it.
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CrackSmokeRepublican

Wow... very interesting coverage here Yammitor.   I had no idea of the massive sellout that occurred in Ireland at the hands of De Valera (--corrected last name). The point of controlling the intelligentsia came across and is clearly an repeated tactic of corrupt Jew ZOG-Crypto operators -- occurring across many countries, and in this case, Ireland's rebellion . These hidden histories and Jew Scams are shocking in their depth and scope across generations!  :x

Interesting that Valero is a Crypto-Jew operated Oil company out of Texas...
After the Revolution of 1905, the Czar had prudently prepared for further outbreaks by transferring some $400 million in cash to the New York banks, Chase, National City, Guaranty Trust, J.P.Morgan Co., and Hanover Trust. In 1914, these same banks bought the controlling number of shares in the newly organized Federal Reserve Bank of New York, paying for the stock with the Czar\'s sequestered funds. In November 1917,  Red Guards drove a truck to the Imperial Bank and removed the Romanoff gold and jewels. The gold was later shipped directly to Kuhn, Loeb Co. in New York.-- Curse of Canaan

Jenny Lake

Good work Yam, indeed eye-opening. How long have Zionists been crushing the Irish? It drove my forebears out some 150 years ago.

miley

Quotelost gold reserves that ireland was to receive on exit of the British Empire which disappeared, and land payments collected from Irish land owners that were never paided to the British Gov.

I understand what is being claimed.
I have never heard any mention of either.
Free State £ was at par with British £.
Land payments would have went into the Free State Exchequer.
The implication is that Dev was diverting Free State Exchequer funds to Jews or Zionists without anyone noticing or objecting.

I would  never mention or use the adove without some serious evidence as it will completely undemine your credibility.

But ,Do I wish it was true! :clap:
Thanks

sullivan

Quote from: "CrackSmokeRepublican"Wow... very interesting coverage here Yammitor.   I had no idea of the massive sellout that occurred in Ireland at the hands of De Valero.
The name is DeValera, which is a habitational surname originating from Spain, I suspect from an area midway between Madrid and Valencia. Habitational surnames are not uncommon amongst Maranos.  Whether he was Jewish or not, he fucked up this country for more than half a century after 1916. He was also guilty of the murder of the true hero of 1916, by all accounts a gentleman to the last, Michael Collins.
"The real menace of our Republic is the invisible government which like a giant octopus sprawls its slimy legs over our cities, states and nation. At the head is a small group of banking houses generally referred to as \'international bankers.\' This little coterie... run our government for their own selfish ends. It operates under cover of a self-created screen, seizes our executive officers, legislative bodies, schools, courts, newspapers and every agency created for the public protection."
John F. Hylan (1868-1936) - Former Mayor of New York City

miley

I am in an all out debate with three amateur historians two of whom are life long Dev acolytes and in a pleasant surprise are extremely skeptical of the Jewish narrative.
I drew them in about his "lucky escape" from execution.
I was expecting the passport excuse.but all three cited adverse public reaction.
I cannot seem to find a time table of trials and executions on line,links would be appreciated.
His time in the USA....what is the best book or source about that period,it was 18 months.
Lincoln Jail is a fairytale.

The raw nerve was Valero,they went crazy and when I mentioned Marano they completely lost it.
As things calmed I asked about the refusal of refugees and condolences on Hitlers death.
I intend hitting them with the Jews controlled the war,the white Christians died whilst the genetically healthy Jews were forced to Palestine by the Zionists.

They have no answer to the name change on the passport.
I am asking why and when?
It was supposedly done between 1910 and 1916.
They have no answer to why?
I have said that because he was an adult , he would have had to travel to the US himself, that a third party (his mother) could not change his first and second names.

That is a weak spot did he travel to the USA or was it done by British Intelligence in advance of the rising as he was being groomed to infiltrate the Volunteers/IRB.

Any thoughts or criticisms are welcome. :)

miley

This discussion could last a few months,I see it as a chance to hone the argument that Dev was a Zionist.

99.999% have no idea of British/Irish history.
Cromwell financed and brainwashed,military and political campaign by Jews.
In payment He allows their return to England.

The  Sabbatai Zevi Messianic rubbish which they used to trick the Puritans into their service.
This will be the most difficult area as it goes directly to the heart of many Calvinists beliefs and will cause consternation as Zevis and Jewish manipulation of Christians core beliefs  is shown.

William 111,the Pope.Jews and Jesuits all they wanted was the Bank of England and East India Company.
That by 1870 95% of British nobility was Jewish.
All those wars were for nothing.....just getting money for a handful of Jewish gangsters.

If it ever hits mainstream :roll:

And by extension when the US realises that a Jewish controlled Britain has been leading it around by the nose for two hundred years, :Whip:

Crazy,unverifiable stuff will discredit our case.
It has to be factual.....no aliens,lizards or even Protocols.
That is what they want  so that we are dismissed as kooks.
So when someone says that the Rothschild basement is where they lay their eggs and feed the young lizards with the blood of Christian virgins,tell them to contact their local Israeli Embassy for a grant. :D

CrackSmokeRepublican

Quote from: "miley"Crazy,unverifiable stuff will discredit our case.
It has to be factual.....no aliens,lizards or even Protocols.
That is what they want  so that we are dismissed as kooks.
So when someone says that the Rothschild basement is where they lay their eggs and feed the young lizards with the blood of Christian virgins,tell them to contact their local Israeli Embassy for a grant. :D

Welcome to TIU miley...  well, that's why we post here. Especially information like this on De Valera.  No lizards or UFOs...  ;)
After the Revolution of 1905, the Czar had prudently prepared for further outbreaks by transferring some $400 million in cash to the New York banks, Chase, National City, Guaranty Trust, J.P.Morgan Co., and Hanover Trust. In 1914, these same banks bought the controlling number of shares in the newly organized Federal Reserve Bank of New York, paying for the stock with the Czar\'s sequestered funds. In November 1917,  Red Guards drove a truck to the Imperial Bank and removed the Romanoff gold and jewels. The gold was later shipped directly to Kuhn, Loeb Co. in New York.-- Curse of Canaan

sullivan

Quote from: "miley"The raw nerve was Valero,they went crazy and when I mentioned Marano they completely lost it.
Welcome to TIU Miley.  In Spansh, De Valera is "of Valera", a habitational surname presumably deriving from an area midway between Madrid and Valencia.  The variant De Valero is also in all likelihood a habitational surname, coming from a town west of Madrid and south of Salamanca. Habitational surnames are commonly but not exclusively a Marano phenomenon in Spain.
"The real menace of our Republic is the invisible government which like a giant octopus sprawls its slimy legs over our cities, states and nation. At the head is a small group of banking houses generally referred to as \'international bankers.\' This little coterie... run our government for their own selfish ends. It operates under cover of a self-created screen, seizes our executive officers, legislative bodies, schools, courts, newspapers and every agency created for the public protection."
John F. Hylan (1868-1936) - Former Mayor of New York City

Michael K.

http://www.irishholocaust.org

QuoteComplicity of the Catholic Hierarchy with London's planned genocide is, sad to say, well recorded. London, prior to removing Ireland's food, appointed a few Irish Catholic Bishops to a Dublin Castle commission and awarded a £30,000 lump sum to Maynooth while increasing its annual grant from £9,000 to £26,000!12 Before British troops began starving Ireland the London parliament enacted a law to return some of the seized foods in the form of rations to all of Ireland's Catholic hierarchy down to the level of, but not including, curates. Faced with residual hierarchical disquiet, M.P.s amended the law to include curates. This ended episcopal objections to the Irish Holocaust; it proceeded efficiently thenceforth. An Irish poet subsequently wrote; "...for the spire of the chapel of Maynooth is the dagger at Ireland's heart." A Munster bishop thanked God that he "lives in a country where a farmer would starve his own children to pay his landlord's rent"!

For two centuries until 1795, priests in Ireland were felons a priori. The government paid a 5 shilling bounty for each severed head. In 1795, British ministers decided that to completely subjugate Ireland the collaboration of the Catholic Church was indispensable. Britain thus stopped murdering priests and founded and funded Ireland's national seminary; Maynooth. The tactic worked; the Irish Catholic Church became London's tool. 13 It facilitated the Irish Holocaust; it sided with Britain in the Risings of 1798, 1848, 1867 and 1916, destroyed Parnellite democracy in 1890 (traumatizing James Joyce) 14 and it has facilitated Britain's vestigial genocide in the Six Counties since 1922. Cardinal Daly recently went so far as to "beg England's forgiveness for the centuries of suffering inflicted upon it by the Irish!" Yet; isn't Catholicism as gloriously redeemed by its persecuted Fr. Wilsons and Sr. Sarah Clarkes of today as by its earlier millions of saints martyred by Elizabeth I, Cromwell, Anne, George III, Victoria, et al?
 
Irish Starvation Martyrs. Honorable Irish people everywhere are commemorating Ireland's Holocaust of 1845-1850 by learning the truth of it. Thus, only dupes of British propaganda still refer to "The Irish Famine," as nobody died of lack of potatoes; but over five million Irish Catholics died of starvation or of malnutrition-induced disease when British troops removed their meats, grains, dairy products, etc. Britain could have removed food enough to sustain 13 million (but not 18 million) without starving Ireland.  No Protestant (Jew's whore in this case, not reformer-MK) starved in Ireland 15 Britain didn't target them...

Dishonored Martyrs; their Mass Graves. The discovery of mass graves resulting from genocide always causes international outcry. But the mass graves of the Irish genocide are unmarked and unmourned by the world at large. Why? Because the Truth was interred in those pits along with the martyrs. The bones of the murdered 5.2 million are scattered across Ireland, the Atlantic sea-floor and North American littorals; but they are concentrated in mass graves the permanently-abandoned state of which eloquently reveals the genocidists' power. It was also mass martyrdom; as the victims could have saved their lives by renouncing their Faith. Food crops that civil law had forced them to tithe (before soldiers took the rest) to the local English State Church parson was on offer to whoever would renounce Catholicism and become Anglican. But they died for Faith and Freedom, and their mass graves are Ireland's holiest places (excepting, perhaps, the graves of those who died resisting). Yet, the souls of these murdered millions still cry to us for justice. After 150 years their murders remain misattributed and the mass graves containing their sacred remains are still unfenced, unmarked and even unconsecrated. It is not the Irish people who are such brutes. The condition of the mass graves reveals the brutal extent of English (Jewish-MK) control of Ireland today; how unfree Ireland actually is


sullivan

"The real menace of our Republic is the invisible government which like a giant octopus sprawls its slimy legs over our cities, states and nation. At the head is a small group of banking houses generally referred to as \'international bankers.\' This little coterie... run our government for their own selfish ends. It operates under cover of a self-created screen, seizes our executive officers, legislative bodies, schools, courts, newspapers and every agency created for the public protection."
John F. Hylan (1868-1936) - Former Mayor of New York City