Hitler’s “(Non) Jewish genes”

Started by CrackSmokeRepublican, July 28, 2012, 12:36:57 AM

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This piece of B.S. is debunked.

QuoteHitler's "Jewish genes"

A reader asked about the bizarre story of Adolf Hitler having "non-Aryan" ancestry. Specifically, The Daily Mail title is: "DNA tests reveal 'Hitler was descended from the Jews and Africans he hated.'" Since it's a British newspaper I frankly wouldn't put it past them to simply pass along a hoax...but I think if they were going to do that they would have said it was the Cohen Modal Haplotype. The article claims that Hitler's Y lineage was haplogroup E1b1b (all biological descendants of the same common male ancestor through the direct patriline will carry this set of Y chromosomal markers). This is really vague, as the haplogroup has many subclades. Obviously if you pull the lens far back enough you'll find a phylogeny where Hitler and Jews and/or Africans are within the same clade. Dienekes notes that this is not a rare haplogroup. It is correct that if one is an Ashkenazi Jew the odds of one carrying this haplogroup are much higher. But, it is not necessarily entailed from this that one is likely to be an Ashkenazi Jew if one carries this haplogroup (or is of Ashkenazi Jewish descent).

This is clear from the map of the distribution of E1b1b's two major subclades:

Y_Hap_EM-78Y_Hap_EM-81




Even within Europe most men who carry this set of markers are not Ashkenazi Jews.

Of course this does not mean that Hitler wasn't an Ashkenazi Jew. But there's probably an easier way to find out if he had such ancestry: sequence his relative's autosomal DNA. Ashkenazi Jews are genetically distinctive. The most common thesis I've heard is that Alois Hitler's biological father was Jewish, which would make Hitler 1/4 Jewish, and his surviving great-nephew, Alexander, 1/16 Jewish. That's probably enough to get a sense of whether this urban legend has any validity.
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by Razib Khan in Genetics

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    1.   AbeBird Says:
    August 26th, 2010 at 3:30 am

    There is no evidence to the claim that Hitler had a Jewish grandfather from his father side. All this story found to be a fabricated one done against Hitler by his inner opponents in the Nazi Party in the end of the 20s. Jews didn't live in the district (Braunau and Graz) and town where his groundmother from his father side lived.

    2.   Anonymous Says:
    August 26th, 2010 at 4:19 am
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    3.   Bruce Wilson Says:
    August 26th, 2010 at 9:03 am

    Razib, this may be the first responsible and well-informed coverage (and debunking) of this mess I've seen in mainstream media. I consider this a hoax (and have said so). Further, from what I could tell the incidence of E1B1B1 in Austria currently is 9% – not rare at all.

    As for the Schicklgruber / Frankenberger tale that many media outlets are tacking on ( claiming Hitler's grandmother was impregnated by a Jew named Frankenberger ), the historian Ian Kershaw debunked that claim over a decade ago. Cecil Adams has a good summary of the debunking at The Straight Dope.

    Cheers,
    Bruce Wilson

http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/ ... ish-genes/
After the Revolution of 1905, the Czar had prudently prepared for further outbreaks by transferring some $400 million in cash to the New York banks, Chase, National City, Guaranty Trust, J.P.Morgan Co., and Hanover Trust. In 1914, these same banks bought the controlling number of shares in the newly organized Federal Reserve Bank of New York, paying for the stock with the Czar\'s sequestered funds. In November 1917,  Red Guards drove a truck to the Imperial Bank and removed the Romanoff gold and jewels. The gold was later shipped directly to Kuhn, Loeb Co. in New York.-- Curse of Canaan

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.......here is a map of Haplogroup-E1b1b.jpg, rather than the sub clades