Audio- Charlie Giuliani/Veronica Clark 7/11/12

[Amanda]

Charles and Veronica Clark discuss the Holocaust fairy tale and Hitler etc

http://grizzom.blogspot.nl/2012/07/trut ... ni_11.html

[pas]

Exellent show!
Mrs. Clark gave a very clear explanation of the ''occultism'' in NS-Germany, I wonder how the proponents of the ''naziism equals occultism'' theory would respond to her findings.
I've been listening to quite some audio's of her (if not all) and read most of her books and Mrs. Clark is a great and most importantly honest and rational scolar on the subject of WWII (she also speaks German, which is important for a full-on approach imo).Her website is http://veraiconapublishers.org/.Most of the articles on this site are password protected and passwords are provided when you buy one of her books (which I have done but not in order to get permission to the website since I wasn't aware of her site at the time).This might raise some eyebrows but I think she has good reasoning because she doesn't want to waste her time dealing with shills, agents or other useless creatures but rather provide information to people who honestly have an interest in this topic.

Interestingly, a son of a Jewish U.S. ambassador (http://portugal.usembassy.gov/ambassador2.html) has denounced one of her books as ''holocaust-denial literature'' when in fact this topic isn't even adressed so the guy obviously didn't even read the book!
This is the review he gave on Amazon:

1.0 out of 5 stars Do not buy this book -- it is a Holocaust denial book, March 23, 2012
By
Ethan B Katz
This review is from: Black Nazis II!: Ethnic Minorities and Foreigners in Hitler's Armed Forces: The Unbiased History (Paperback)
I am shocked that this book is being sold on amazon, as it is clearly a work of Holocaust denial literature. Pat Buchanan, who once said that "Hitler had some good ideas," could have written it himself. The fact is, there may have been people in Hitler's army who were of various races. There were also slaveowners in the antebellum American south who were nice to their slaves. That really did not change the fundamentals of a racist society in any way. There are exceptions under any state. Contrary to what the author wants you to believe, a few non-white soldiers does not mean that the Nazis were not the most lethally racist regime in history. In fact, they were exactly that horrible of a regime, murdering approximately 12 million people from 1933 to 1945, generally for reasons of race.

I am appalled that people are commenting on this book like it is a work of scholarship and that they somehow cannot realize from the description alone that the author and her supporters are simply seeking in a perverse and disgusting way to rehabilitate the Nazis.

Unlike the author or any of the other posters here, I am a professional historian with a PhD and I teach modern European history at an American university. Though, frankly, almost any American of reasonable education and intelligence can read an effort to rehabilitate the Third Reich for what it is: hateful, filled with lies, and a denial of one of the darkest chapters of human history. I urge people not to buy this book unless you are seeking to endorse such an agenda.

[Timothy_Fitzpatrick]

It's not necessarily the occultism that makes Nazism as bad as Judaism. It's the carnal nature of Nazism that ruins it and makes it identical to Judaism. All about self and the flesh. Occultism, Freemasonry, magic, etc. makes it all the more incriminating against the Nazi.

[Amanda]

Pas-

I totally agree w/your take on Veronica Clark. I've actually tried to go back through Deanna's archives and listen to all the shows they've done together--incredibly informative. I hope Charlie starts to have her on as a regular guest. I greatly appreciate the fact that she reads so much and is able to summarize books and share her thoughts on them. In this audio w/Charlie, I was thankful to hear her take on Joseph Farrell (author of "Nazi International"--and IMO the title is a dead giveaway as to who he's working for). Anyway, she briefly noted that she was reading his book "Brotherhood of the Bell" and that she was up to page 120 and that nothing the guy said could be substantiated.  Though this is kind of what I thought of him all along, it was nice to have it validated.

[Timothy_Fitzpatrick]

Tell me, pas. Is there a spiritual realm that exists in your world?

[pas]

Amanda wrote:

I've actually tried to go back through Deanna's archives and listen to all the shows they've done together--incredibly informative

I also downloaded every show I could find of the two.The topics they cover are vast from military strategy, psychology, economics and much more on a very high level.Many shows I have to listen many times over in order to really be able to fully comprehend it.

In this audio w/Charlie, I was thankful to hear her take on Joseph Farrell (author of "Nazi International"--and IMO the title is a dead giveaway as to who he's working for). Anyway, she briefly noted that she was reading his book "Brotherhood of the Bell" and that she was up to page 120 and that nothing the guy said could be substantiated. Though this is kind of what I thought of him all along, it was nice to have it validated.

 :lol: Yeah Joseph Farrell is a great source of ''accurate information'' just like his fellow AJ regulars Marrs and Springmeier.Also he uses the often used tactic of psycological projection were he's shifting the blame from the communists (Communist International) to their enemy National Socialism.

The Communist International, abbreviated as Comintern, also known as the Third International (1919–1943), was an international communist organization initiated in Moscow during March 1919

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comintern

[maz]

I, V. K. Clark, do hereby declare in this public forum that I was at fault to point out anything (emphasis) positive about Hitler, German military aggression, and national socialism. For one can really judge a movement by the fruit that it yields. Hitler and NS yielded destruction and death on an unprecedented scale, as well as inspired modern day white nationalism, neo-nazism and neo-fascism (rotten fruit), all three of which I denounce and reject in toto. Obviously my research findings have had no positive bearing whatsoever, thus I have decided to end all future essays, radio shows, books, and other projects associated with Hitler and NS. I will not continue to feed the fires of apologism and hatred.

All of my books have subsequently been delisted on Amazon.com in protest against white nationalists, neo-nazis, NS apologists, Hitler worshipers, and neo-fascists promoting and using my work and research for their nefarious agendas.

I find this interesting. As this section of the forum is private. I'd be interested in seeing this hashed out in the public, main part of the forum.