Israel Loving Pastor Chuck Baldwin Recants

Started by Idaho Kid, April 07, 2015, 08:54:49 PM

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Idaho Kid

The misapplication of applying prophetic scriptures to the modern state of Israel is producing nothing but perpetual war, the demise of liberty at home, the rise of a Police State, and the facilitation of a devilish New World Order.

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Chuck-Baldwin/226997970644468
I RECANT.

I'm using this Facebook post to make a couple of personal confessions.

In one way or another, we are all victims of our past. I was schooled in certain persuasions that have taken 3/4 of a lifetime to overcome. But when I made a conscious decision to pursue and follow truth–no matter where it led me–many years ago, my mind and heart have been liberated with the illumination of truth time and time again. I personally believe that only people who, in their hearts, are sincerely open to truth will ever find it.

I will not make these issues a test of fellowship with those who disagree with me (although, I'm sure many of them will). I, myself, believed differently for all of my adult life. And these conclusions have not been made overnight. It has taken years of study and research to bring me to the conclusions I am sharing with you in this post.

Obviously, this forum will not allow me to go into detail about the conclusions I'm going to share. That must be reserved for another day and another forum. But, for the sake of the folks–especially those Christian folks–who follow my work, I believe I need to be honest and straightforward regarding these conclusions.

So, here we go:

    I recant the dogmatism of a belief in a pre-millennial rapture.

That doesn't mean that I DON'T believe in a Rapture. It just means that I am no longer dogmatic about it; and neither do I think that it matters to a tinker's dam regarding my personal duty to God. The Lord is going to fulfill His divine will regarding prophetic events in His time. Quite frankly, I am convinced that, for the most part, it is not for us to know the things God has reserved unto Himself. (Acts 1:6, 7)

For too long, many of our pre-millennial friends have been using a belief in the Rapture as an excuse to sit back on their blessed assurance and do nothing. Even if the doctrine is true, the way it is being used as an excuse to not engage the liberty fight is downright shameful.

2. I recant the position that the modern state of Israel is the same as the prophetic Israel of the Bible.

The nation of Israel rejected their Messiah and God destroyed their nation, their capital city, and their temple in 70 AD. Spiritually, the children of Israel have been in a state of blindness ever since. With the advent of the New Testament Church, we are NOT Jews or Gentiles, Greeks or Barbarians, etc.: we are all ONE IN CHRIST. God's people today are the blood-washed saints of all races, ethnicities, nationalities, etc. Again, we are ONE IN CHRIST.

Accordingly, I am convinced that the modern state of Israel is NOT the prophetic fulfillment of the future redeemed nation of Israel. NOT IN ANY SHAPE, MANNER, OR FORM. I further conclude that the misapplication of applying prophetic scriptures to the modern state of Israel is producing nothing but perpetual war, the demise of liberty at home, the rise of a Police State, and the facilitation of a devilish New World Order.

So, there you have it. I RECANT.

[Chuck Baldwin]

Here's Baldwin http://libertyfellowshipmt.com/News/tabid/56/ID/3295/Christs-Last-Words-To-Israel.aspx
"Certainly the Protocols are a forgery, and that is the one proof we have of their authenticity. The Jews have worked with forged documents for the past 24 hundred years, namely ever since they have had any documents whatsoever." - Ezra Pound

yankeedoodle

Very interesting and profound change.

Seems that, unbelievably, Americans may, finally, be doing what we've hoped they would do - wake up.

Yankee Doodle listens on Saturday evenings to something called the "Liberty Net", which is a bunch of ham radio operators who get together and talk politics, current events, etc.  Can be heard at 3950.net at 10pm eastern US time Saturday evening (UT 02 Sunday).

Vick, the founder of the Liberty Net, has, for months/years, been going on and on about Mooossssluuumms, and only very rarely would a veiled suggestion of jews/Israhell being the problem be heard, but, last Saturday, absolutely everything changed.  Multiple voices were heard speaking the truth, and one person had the nerve to slightly rebut Vick's about Muslims.  Anger was expressed about paypal no longer serving trutube.tv by somebody who would never have been thought to watch, or even know about, trutube.tv.

Great to see these changes.   

Idaho Kid

Thanks for that update, Yankee.  Baldwin is, apparently, fairly well known having run as someone's Presidential candidate.  This WILL spread and be big.  Once the Jew Truth is out, the gatekeepers either get on board or fall by the wayside. 
"Certainly the Protocols are a forgery, and that is the one proof we have of their authenticity. The Jews have worked with forged documents for the past 24 hundred years, namely ever since they have had any documents whatsoever." - Ezra Pound

Michael K.

Yes, I second that.  Thank you for showing me the evidence that the Holy Spirit is at work in the pulpit here in America.  And thank you pastor Baldwin.  See Jesus overthrowing the tables of the moneychangers.  See him set the animals free and drive them from the temple.  Amen.

Idaho Kid

Yankee, listening to 3950.net.  Think I've got the latest show.  Heard some of Vic who seems very limited in his understanding.  Waiting (hoping) to hear him get straightened out.  Thanks.  Enjoying it.  LOVE the homepage graphics!
"Certainly the Protocols are a forgery, and that is the one proof we have of their authenticity. The Jews have worked with forged documents for the past 24 hundred years, namely ever since they have had any documents whatsoever." - Ezra Pound

Idaho Kid

Aha, Yankee, they finally got around to the Jew angle at about the 60% mark.  I was getting desperate listening to that Zio-Christian Limbaughing.
"Certainly the Protocols are a forgery, and that is the one proof we have of their authenticity. The Jews have worked with forged documents for the past 24 hundred years, namely ever since they have had any documents whatsoever." - Ezra Pound

yankeedoodle

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You're right!  Went back to have a listen - wanted to double-check, as wouldn't want to mislead - and truth didn't emerge until about the 3-hour mark. 

Nevertheless, represents a definite big change amongst this crowd, who are typically of the Limbaugh orientation.  Have to wait and see if it continues.  Perhaps, as we hope, Netanyahu pushed himself upon Americans just a little too much, and, as they say "people are starting to talk". 

Liberty Net now is very tame, but, just only a few years ago, there were many participants, and critics who would use their ham radios to run interference with music, odd noises, insulting comments, etc.  Could be amusing.