China Economic Collapse Happening

[Michael K.]

China is in economic turmoil, probably due to the TPP's success, which is causing investors to lose confidence in China's future, a future without a secure neocolonial resource base.  This is not much different from the scenario that propelled Japan into war with the United States.  An emerging regional hegemon has been cut off from the natural resources it needs to sustain industrial growth, and is threatened with being driven down to third world status which it only recently clawed its way out from.  This by a greedy global trade empire bent on a winner-takes-all outcome.

http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/what-in-the-world-just-happened-to-the-new-york-stock-exchange

Others found it very curious that trading on the NYSE was halted just after Chinese stocks had absolutely plummeted the night before.  In fact, Hong Kong's Hang Seng Index experienced the largest one day decline that we have witnessed since November 2008.  So is there more going on here than meets the eye

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-07-08/hong-kong-s-hang-seng-index-plunges-most-since-financial-crisis

Hong Kong's Hang Seng Index Plunges Most Since Financial Crisis

by Kana Nishizawa

July 8, 2015 — 3:33 AM EDT Updated on July 8, 2015 — 4:42 AM EDT

Hong Kong's benchmark stock gauge plunged the most since the global financial crisis as an equity rout in mainland China rippled across Asia.

The Hang Seng Index fell 5.8 percent to 23,516.56 at the close today, the biggest drop since November 2008, after slumping as much as 8.6 percent. All but one stock on the 50- member gauge slid amid trading volume 148 percent higher than the 30-day average. A measure of Asian shares headed for its steepest drop in two years.

Financial and property companies led declines in Hong Kong today, with China Life Insurance Co. falling 8.8 percent and China Overseas Land & Investment Ltd. tumbling 10 percent. The Hang Seng China Enterprises Index, also known as the H-share gauge, dropped 6.1 percent after following mainland shares into a bear market on Tuesday with a 20 percent retreat from a May high. The Shanghai Composite Index closed 5.9 percent lower, extending its decline from a June 12 high to 32 percent.

"Investors are disappointed and afraid that the Chinese policy makers lost control of the market," said Mari Oshidari, a Hong Kong-based strategist at Okasan Securities Group Inc. "With no end in sight to the plunge, sentiment has turned cold. With liquidity drying up in the mainland, the Hong Kong market is being sold instead –- the only thing it can do is just quietly take the storm."
The decline dragged the Hang Seng gauge to 9.8 times reported earnings, the cheapest relative to the MSCI All-Country World Index since 2003, when the city was gripped by the SARS virus which killed 300 people and caused economic losses totaling HK$3.8 billion ($490 million) in two months.
Large Declines

The 10 companies that fell the most on the Hang Seng Index sank by at least 7.6 percent. China Shenhua Energy Co. plunged 9.3 percent and China Resources Land Ltd. lost 8.4 percent. HSBC Holdings Plc retreated 3.9 percent, its steepest drop in almost two years. Some of the most heavily traded shares through the Shanghai link yesterday, including Bank of China Ltd. and Hong Kong Exchanges & Clearing Ltd., posted even larger declines today.

Mainland investors were net sellers through the Hong Kong-Shanghai stock link for an eighth day amid unprecedented liquidation of margin trades. A Hang Seng index tracking the mainland premium on dual-listed shares advanced 0.2 percent, signaling China traded shares are 48 percent more expensive.

http://money.cnn.com/2015/07/07/investing/china-stocks-shanghai-crash/

China stocks hammered as market crash continues

July 08 HONG KONG

China stocks plunged again on Wednesday, even as regulators worked to contain a crisis that has wiped trillions of dollars off the country's stock markets.

The Shanghai Composite plunged 8% at the market open on Wednesday, and spent the entire day in negative territory before closing down 5.9%. The vast majority of stocks listed on the benchmark index shed 10%, the maximum limit shares are allowed to fall before being halted.
The smaller Shenzhen Composite lost 2.5%, while Hong Kong's Hang Seng markets5.8%.

"At the moment there is a mood of panic in the market and a large increase in irrational dumping of shares, causing a strain of liquidity in the stock market," China Securities Regulatory Commission said in statement.

Since June 12, the Shanghai Composite has lost an unnerving 32%. The Shenzhen market, which has more tech companies and is often compared to America's Nasdaq index, is down 41% over the same period.

The government is now doing everything it can to rescue the markets. The People's Bank of China has cut interest rates to a record low, brokerages have committed to buy billions worth of stocks, and regulators have announced a de-facto suspension of new IPOs.

The CSRC said Wednesday that it was actively working to relieve a liquidity crunch in the market.
But investors clearly aren't convinced by government efforts. China's stock market has been undergoing wild swings, sometimes opening with a spike of as much as 7%, before ending the day down by that much.

At least 1,430 of the 2,776 companies traded in China have elected to pull their shares as markets continue their crazy roller-coaster ride, according to state media. The number keeps ticking upward -- on Wednesday morning alone, hundreds of firms announced a halt in trading.

Related: Bargain hunting in the Chinese stock rubble

The most compelling theory why the stock bubble burst: Chinese economic growth is the weakest it's been since 2009. Share prices got way ahead of growth and company profits, which are actually lower than a year ago.

"China's stock market had become detached from the reality of China's own economy, and appallingly overvalued," Patrick Chovanec, managing director at Silvercrest Asset Management, said on Twitter. "This is gravity taking effect."

Related: China fears crash into gold, copper markets

According to Bespoke Investment Group, China's stock markets have now lost $3.25 trillion. To put that in perspective, that's more than the size of France's entire stock market and about 60% of Japan's market.
While the volatility is a major issue in China, few foreign investors have much exposure to these stock markets. The real concern for those outside China is an economic slowdown and wider impact from a fluctuating stock market, rather than the market swings themselves.

[yankeedoodle]

China is in economic turmoil, probably due to the TPP's success, which is causing investors to lose confidence in China's future, a future without a secure neocolonial resource base.  This is not much different from the scenario that propelled Japan into war with the United States.  An emerging regional hegemon has been cut off from the natural resources it needs to sustain industrial growth, and is threatened with being driven down to third world status which it only recently clawed its way out from.  This by a greedy global trade empire bent on a winner-takes-all outcome.

Now, of course, you see what Jade Helm is about.  Of course, this plan, which worked with Japan and WW II, was put into place years ago for China and WW III, and Jade Helm - which means "China control (or rule)" - is just war-gaming for the occupation of China, which they intend to be take place after the war begins over some fucking stupid fucking little islands.

Of course, the plot against China must be concealed, so they put all their fucking disinfo agents - All-excrement Jones, full-of-shit Fetzer, and many many others - to work putting out the most ridiculous fucking bullshit about marshal law and FEMA camps and "they're comin' to get our guns", etc., etc.

Talk about diversion.  It sure as hell worked.  They had themselves a good laugh.  Who needs to "round up" these "patriots" when they can be sent into a brainless jabbering tizzy by shitheads like All-excrement Jones, is what they realize. 

[Michael K.]

I need to stress to you the impossibilities inherent in the scenario you are proposing.  The US could not successfully occupy Iraq, so there is not much chance of doing so in China.  There are not more than a few hundred Chinese linguists in the Army.  The logistics are incredible beyond belief. 

Following my reasoning, the Chinese will sooner gamble all their military capital in an invasion of the West coast of the US, in coordination with a Russian invasion of the East coast, then allow things to progress to the point that you are somewhat reasonably inferring.

JADE HELM, in my opinion, is about instigation of a new Civil War in America, based on the "noble lie," that they are fighting racism and anarchy.  That's where all the signs seem to point at present.

[yankeedoodle]

Somebody better tell the Japanese and Germans that the US can't occupy countries.  The US is still in Germany, and the Okinawans are constantly protesting, but the Yanks ain't leavin', and, instead, are building new bases.   

The US IS occupying Iraq - they have an enormous military encampment that masquerades as an embassy - and, if Iraq is in turmoil, well...perhaps that is because the US government doesn't give a shit about Iraqis, and turmoil and chaos that results in Iraqis killing each other - without the Yanks doing it and getting the direct blame - is quite all right, particularly for the jews.

Germany and Japan were rebuilt to be industrial workhouses, but why rebuild Iraq?  Iraq isn't needed as a workhouse.  Iraq is nothing more than a pumping station.  As long as the oil is flowing, the US doesn't give a shit about anything else in Iraq. 

Regarding China, a few nukes will have a profound effect on the people.  Might be quite calming. 

As regards the US being invaded, it hasn't happened since 1812 - except for a few Japanese balloons in WW II and probably some Germans that snuck ashore from submarines.

There's something called a moat, and the US has the biggest fucking moat in the world - the Atlantic and Pacific Oceans.  Where are the ships that are bring the invaders?  The Russians have to get past the Europeans, and the Chinese have to get past Japan, Korea, the Philippines, etc., and they then have thousands of miles of ocean.

But, if the US Government really is planning to put their propagandists - such as All-excrement Jones and full-of-shit Fetzer, and so many more - into fucking FEMA camps, than Yankee Doodle says GOD BLESS AMERICA.

Regarding Civil War, which state is going to secede?  South Carolina, which is capitulating to the latest intel operation?  Will it be Texas and Florida, where their former Governors are trying to become President of the United States, instead of lead a rebellion and breakaway movement?

Ever hear of the Bonus Army?  WW I vets who wanted early payment of their pensions because of hardship from the Depression.  Combat trained men, experience with guns and with no gun control, tried to rise up, and what happened?  They were shot down, and that was that.

Who's going to lead this rebellion against Jade Helm?  All-excrement Jones?  That's called being led astray.   

[Michael K.]

Of course you are right about the foolishness of an Alex Jones rebellion.  He is a Judas goat, leading earnest people to the abbatoir.  They are creating the pretext to destroy the last vestiges of States rights, so that corporate trade tribunals can rule directly through federal executive action.

The invasion I am proposing is not ready yet, but just wait and see.  The Grexit could dissolve the EU, and Anglo idiocy could yet drive Europe into solidifying ties to Russia.  Japan and Germany, whom you expect to protect the most, could have some revenge in their hearts, too.

[yankeedoodle]

The economic chaos in China is part of the plot.  First, Russia had their economic attack, and now China.

Don't worry about the the US debt to China, because, when the war is over, all debts will be wiped clean.  That's the plan.

Don't worry about vengeful Japan and Germany.  They are buffer states that will be destroyed again in World War III.

World War III has been planned - at the core of the planning are the jews, as in WW I gave them the Balfour Declaration, and WW II gave them Israhell, and WW III will give them world control - for many years, and they won't stop until they get what they want.

Jade Helm is about war against China, and all the internet jabber about it being about concentration camps is just a bit of amusement and misdirection.

Simultaneous with Jade Helm - jade, remember, is an almost sacred mineral to the Chinese - the Aussies are conducting a massive military drill called Talisman Sabre.  Jade, to the Chinese, is a talisman.  http://www.jademeaning.com/

talisman : an object (such as a ring or stone) that is believed to have magic powers and to cause good things to happen to the person who has it 

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/talisman

The use of the words "jade" and "talisman" are not - repeat, ARE NOT - coincidental. 

Jade Helm and Talisman Shield are combined exercises in preparation to attack and invade and occupy China.   

Talisman Sabre drills are 'expeditionary wars & invasions' - Australian Greens senator
http://rt.com/news/272605-australia-talisman-sabre-drills/?utm_source=browser&utm_medium=aplication_chrome&utm_campaign=chrome

"Most people join the ADF [Australian Defense Force] expecting that they're there for the defense of Australian territory," the Guardian cited Ludlam as saying outside a peace conference in Brisbane on Thursday. "That's not what they are training for – it's about landing on beaches and invading other people's countries."

Such war games are about "expeditionary wars and invasions," Ludlam said, stressing that they undermine Australia's independence and send the "wrong message" to its neighbors.

"I don't think we should be preparing for a war with China," Ludlam said.

[Ognir]

Insanity

Chinese will arrest short-sellers  .....
plus all their new rules
Commies running a stock market
will end well of course
Hope millions don't die

[Michael K.]

Yes, Yankee, I think you perceive their intentions with clarity.  Only remember, war on the scale contemplated is not your typical gang rape scene, as we have witnessed so often in the recent past.  War is a dangerous affair, it has as much to do with time and chance as with endless preparations and technology.  The very truth of what you espouse is sufficient reason to make a surprise attack inevitable. 

Remember also, that WW II was won largely with Russian blood.  There is no certain outcome, only certain death to many.  The Eurasian supercontinent and Africa united against the Anglo Navy and Air Force may yet gain victory.  If technical supremacy were the only factor to consider, we would all be speaking German right now.

No, there is also the human factor.  Have spies already blackmailed the codes out of officers, too morally weak to resist the honey trap?  Is there already a virus in the DARPA computers which has the potential of blinding the command at the crucial hour?  Are our soldiers too psychologically weak to maintain composure when facing a truly dangerous opponent and the prospect that home is now a radioactive crater?  Are the Lilliputians too small to tie down Gulliver?

And then there is God.  Have we piled up offenses against the Holy One?  Have the cries of the innocent reached the ears of Heaven?  Will He intervene and send nature against the arrogant at the pivotal moment? 

[Michael K.]

"You go down there..."