Basic philosophy: objective vs. subjective; Christ vs. satan; Christian vs. Jew

[apollonian]

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So we can all see now that your "philosophy" is complete nonsense.
You say that you are for "objectivity", but you deny any objective means of discerning good from evil. 
Then you deny that there is any such thing as good or evil, and that only children hold this 'false' distinction.
Then you state that the whole Bible is merely allegory, so you really are not even a Christian.
Although you state that you are against the Jews, you are really batting 100% for BEING a Jew, Objectively speaking. 
Your take on Jesus makes a mockery of everything He taught.  For example, this passage becomes meaningless:

Mt 12:31-35Therefore I say to you: . . . .

You should take a note from Isaiah 5:20-24
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Marlowe: at this pt. u're reduced to desperate, hysterical lying, ho ho ho ho ho

Apo commentary in below-copied text by Marlowe capped, bracketed.

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"So we can all see now that your "philosophy" is complete nonsense. [YET ANOTHER ASSERTION WITHOUT SUBSTANTIATION, TYPICAL OF MARLOWE.  I BEGIN W. THE ARISTOTELIAN PREMISE, OBJECTIVITY, LEADING THEN TO DETERMINISM, AND THE CYCLIC THEORY OF HISTORY AS DESCRIBED BY SPENGLER, AS I'VE DEMONSTRATED.]

"You say that you are for "objectivity", but you deny any objective means of discerning good from evil.  [THIS ISN'T MERE GROUNDLESS ASSERTION; THIS IS OUT-AND-OUT LIE AND LYING.  I SIMPLY PT. OUT THERE IS NO "GOOD-EVIL," ETC.  AND I NOTE MARLOWE ISN'T CAPABLE OF DEMONSTRATING ANY SUCH "GOOD-EVIL," NOT GIVING ANY CRITERION, NO GENUS AND DIFFERENTIA, MARLOWE ONLY CAPABLE OF BABBLING, SPAMMING, ASSERTING NONSENSE, AND NOW JUST PLAIN LYING.]

"Then you deny that there is any such thing as good or evil, and that only children hold this 'false' distinction.  [U GOT THIS RIGHT, CONGRATULATIONS.]

"Then you state that the whole Bible is merely allegory, [ACTUALLY, I SAY IT'S ART AND LITERATURE, CONSISTING LARGELY OF ALLEGORY, ETC.  CHRIST DOES NOT SPEAK LIKE COLLEGE PROF., RATHER IN STYLE OF THE PROPHETS OF OLD TEST.; THUS CHRIST SPEAKS MUCH IN ALLEGORY ("PARABLE"), THE PHILOSOPHY COUCHED IN MYTHOLOGIC -TYPE TERMS, THE PEOPLE TO WHOM CHRIST SPOKE NOT NECESSARILY ALL TERRIBLY LITERATE THOUGH GENERALLY FAMILIAR W. MYTHOLOGY OF "SCRIPTURE."]

"...so you really are not even a Christian. [HO OH HO HO--AS IF U'RE THE JUDGE, EH?--SO WHAT IS "CHRISTIAN"?--THUS IF CHRIST IS TRUTH (GOSP. JOHN 14:6), THEN CHRISTIAN IS WORSHIPPER OF TRUTH AND HONESTY.  NO MARLOWE: U'RE ONE WHO LIES LIKE A JEW AND PHARISEE, SO WHO CARES WHAT U SAY, LIAR?]

"Although you state that you are against the Jews, you are really batting 100% for BEING a Jew, Objectively speaking."  [FALSE, LIAR: U'RE THE JEW, THE LIAR, SUBJECTIVIST, PRETENDING LIKE A PHARISEE TO NON-EXISTENT, HERETICALIST "GOOD-EVIL," ETC.  CHRIST ASSERTED, IMPLICITLY, THE OBJECTIVE REALITY, CRITERION FOR TRUTH, REJECTING JEWS/PHARISEES WHO ARE FOREMOST SUBJECTIVISTS/COLLECTIVISTS, BASIS FOR THEIR LYING, AS CHRIST EXPLAINED, ETC.]

Marlowe then gratuitiously throws in irrelevant quotes fm New and Old Test.s  Keep talking to us, Marlowe, the desperate, lying, hysterical Pharisaic.

[Christopher Marlowe]

CM "So we can all see now that your "philosophy" is complete nonsense. [AP: YET ANOTHER ASSERTION WITHOUT SUBSTANTIATION, TYPICAL OF MARLOWE.  I BEGIN W. THE ARISTOTELIAN PREMISE, OBJECTIVITY, LEADING THEN TO DETERMINISM, AND THE CYCLIC THEORY OF HISTORY AS DESCRIBED BY SPENGLER, AS I'VE DEMONSTRATED.]

I've already proven your inconsistencies and WRONG statements Re: Aristotle, Aquinas, etc.. See above.

"You say that you are for "objectivity", but you deny any objective means of discerning good from evil.  [THIS ISN'T MERE GROUNDLESS ASSERTION; THIS IS OUT-AND-OUT LIE AND LYING.  I SIMPLY PT. OUT THERE IS NO "GOOD-EVIL," ETC.  AND I NOTE MARLOWE ISN'T CAPABLE OF DEMONSTRATING ANY SUCH "GOOD-EVIL," NOT GIVING ANY CRITERION, NO GENUS AND DIFFERENTIA, MARLOWE ONLY CAPABLE OF BABBLING, SPAMMING, ASSERTING NONSENSE, AND NOW JUST PLAIN LYING.]

Once again, it is YOU that is merely relying on his own assertions.
I have already shown that Hume's and Moore's basis for denying natural law were based on fallacies.
Further, I have shown why the Natural Law is consistent and necessary for objective evaluation of laws.
You have proven NOTHING, but have only made assertions.

"Then you state that the whole Bible is merely allegory, [ACTUALLY, I SAY IT'S ART AND LITERATURE, CONSISTING LARGELY OF ALLEGORY, ETC.  CHRIST DOES NOT SPEAK LIKE COLLEGE PROF., RATHER IN STYLE OF THE PROPHETS OF OLD TEST.; THUS CHRIST SPEAKS MUCH IN ALLEGORY ("PARABLE"), THE PHILOSOPHY COUCHED IN MYTHOLOGIC -TYPE TERMS, THE PEOPLE TO WHOM CHRIST SPOKE NOT NECESSARILY ALL TERRIBLY LITERATE THOUGH GENERALLY FAMILIAR W. MYTHOLOGY OF "SCRIPTURE."]

I think that you don't know what you mean, as evidenced by your ambiguous statements:

SOME OF IT IS PRETTY STRAIGHT-FORWARD, BUT SOME OF IT'S ALLEGORY, AND SOME OF IT IS UN-FORTUNATE METAPHOR GONE A LITTLE WILD--SURE CHRIST WANTS HIS FLOCK TO "LOVE" ONE ANOTHER, BUT THE SCUM NEED TO BE EXTERMINATED, ALL IN ACCORD W. GOD'S JUSTICE AS LAID OUT IN MOSAIC LAW AND TORAH, WHICH CHRIST DEFENDED, SEEKING TO CHANGE NOT EVEN A "JOT OR TITTLE" (WHATEVER THAT IS).

That last bit "whatever that is" obviously is a confession that you know that you don't understand what you are talking about.

"...so you really are not even a Christian. [HO OH HO HO--AS IF U'RE THE JUDGE, EH?--SO WHAT IS "CHRISTIAN"?--THUS IF CHRIST IS TRUTH (GOSP. JOHN 14:6), THEN CHRISTIAN IS WORSHIPPER OF TRUTH AND HONESTY.  NO MARLOWE: U'RE ONE WHO LIES LIKE A JEW AND PHARISEE, SO WHO CARES WHAT U SAY, LIAR?]

I haven't told any lies. It is you that misrepresents the truth. I have already found you out misstating the facts about Aristotle, etc... You bend the facts to please yourself, and when scripture contradicts you, you say it is allegory, or some other rambling nonsense.

I am not the judge of who is really a Christian.  God knows who is in His Church:

(Mt 7:21-27) Not every one that saith to me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven: but he that doth the will of my Father who is in heaven, he shall enter into the kingdom of heaven. [22] Many will say to me in that day: Lord, Lord, have not we prophesied in thy name, and cast out devils in thy name, and done many miracles in thy name? [23] And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, you that work iniquity. [24] Every one therefore that heareth these my words, and doth them, shall be likened to a wise man that built his house upon a rock, [25] And the rain fell, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and they beat upon that house, and it fell not, for it was founded on a rock.

[26] And every one that heareth these my words, and doth them not, shall be like a foolish man that built his house upon the sand, [27] And the rain fell, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and they beat upon that house, and it fell, and great was the fall thereof.

What is the will of God?  To believe the One He sent:

(John 6:29) "Jesus answered, and said to them: This is the work of God, that you believe in him whom he hath sent."

So, for example, a guy can't say that Jesus' words don't mean anything at one moment, and then turn around and call himself a 'Christian'.  That guy's actions show that he doesn't believe Jesus.

Marlowe then gratuitiously throws in irrelevant quotes fm New and Old Test.s  Keep talking to us, Marlowe, the desperate, lying, hysterical Pharisaic.

Those citations were spot-on: you have denied any difference between good and evil. So I showed how your ridiculous philosophy makes a mockery of Jesus' teaching:

(Mt 12:33-35) "Either make the tree GOOD and its fruit GOOD: or make the tree EVIL, and its fruit EVIL. For by the fruit the tree is known. [34] O generation of vipers, how can you speak GOOD things, whereas you are EVIL? for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh. [35] A GOOD man out of a GOOD treasure bringeth forth GOOD things: and an EVIL man out of an EVIL treasure bringeth forth EVIL things.

If there is no difference between good and evil, what difference would it make what was coming out of a persons heart? And how would anyone discern these things?

The other quote is very relevant also.  God is warning people NOT to do what you are doing:

(Is 5:20) Woe to you that call evil good, and good evil: that put darkness for light, and light for darkness: that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter.

Although you are not promoting a specific evil practice, your words have generally the same effect. By saying that there is no difference between good and evil, you are saying they are the same. So essentially you are calling evil good, and good evil.

[Michael K.]

... THE SCUM NEED TO BE EXTERMINATED, ALL IN ACCORD W. GOD'S JUSTICE AS LAID OUT IN MOSAIC LAW AND TORAH, WHICH CHRIST DEFENDED, SEEKING TO CHANGE NOT EVEN A "JOT OR TITTLE" (WHATEVER THAT IS).

Repudiation of Love as the fundamental principle.

The Bible deconstructed as humanist literature. 

Extermination of "scum" based on Old Testament legalism.   

[apollonian]

... THE SCUM NEED TO BE EXTERMINATED, ALL IN ACCORD W. GOD'S JUSTICE AS LAID OUT IN MOSAIC LAW AND TORAH, WHICH CHRIST DEFENDED, SEEKING TO CHANGE NOT EVEN A "JOT OR TITTLE" (WHATEVER THAT IS).

Repudiation of Love as the fundamental principle.

The Bible deconstructed as humanist literature. 

Extermination of "scum" based on Old Testament legalism.   
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Foremost Christian Ideal Is TRUTH, Not Mere "Love," Cheap Substitute At Best
(Apollonian, 17 Jun 15)

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"Love" is NOT NOT NOT NOT the "fundamental principle" of Christian New Test.  Gosp. JOHN 14:6 gives it: Christ = TRUTH, only way to Godly happiness, this truth resurrecting, as on Easter, the ultimate liars, the Pharisees (Gosp. JOHN 8:44) having conspired to kill truth.

Pharisees and Sadducees didn't conspire to kill love--which then resurrects and resurrected.

The idea is moronic, that one should/must love love or worship love as God--utterly idiotic for idiots, but not surprising given the morons we know about.  It isn't surprising then that such moronic idiots would lie, saying Bible is thus "deconstructed as humanist literature."

For there is only literature, and literature is literature--same goes for "Old Test. legalism."  Old Test. is merely re-stated and clarified by Christ, and it (Old Test.) does not uphold "love" as God to be worshipped.

[apollonian]

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I've already proven your inconsistencies and WRONG statements Re: Aristotle, Aquinas, etc.. See above.
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Once again, it is YOU that is merely relying on his own assertions.
I have already shown that Hume's and Moore's basis for denying natural law were based on fallacies.
Further, I have shown why the Natural Law is consistent and necessary for objective evaluation of laws.
You have proven NOTHING, but have only made assertions.
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I think that you don't know what you mean, as evidenced by your ambiguous statements:
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That last bit "whatever that is" obviously is a confession that you know that you don't understand what you are talking about.
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I haven't told any lies. It is you that misrepresents the truth. I have already found you out misstating the facts about Aristotle, etc... You bend the facts to please yourself, and when scripture contradicts you, you say it is allegory, or some other rambling nonsense.
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Those citations were spot-on: you have denied any difference between good and evil. So I showed how your ridiculous philosophy makes a mockery of Jesus' teaching...
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If there is no difference between good and evil, what difference would it make what was coming out of a persons heart? And how would anyone discern these things?
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Marlowe Enjoys Babbling And Lying Above All
(Apollonian, 17 Jun 15)

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Marlowe, u just continue ur foolish, hysterical lying and groundless asserting--note u had a chance to say what "good" was for criterion and genus and differentia, but u couldn't so state, preferring to babble evermore.

Christians aren't "good," and satanists and Jews aren't bad or evil, but satanists and Jews are worthy of hatred of humanity, and should, must, and will be exterminated as they're noxious threat to Christianity, humanity and Christians, Jews and satanists being simply like diseases, like plague, typhus, and leprosy.  Lions aren't good or evil, and neither are zebras, but their interests conflict, sometimes and in certain ways--same w. diseases, of which Jews and satanist are themselves.

U could win the debate/discussion in a heart-beat, Marlowe, if u could only quit babbling and spamming and say what "good" is, ho ho hoh oho