Re: Henry Makow: 9/11 Disinfo Article

[Negentropic]

You finally got me to watch your video and I gotta admit it was absolutely top notch. This Soderberg guy is talking the same crap Alex Jones was saying about 'no planers' out to discredit the 'real movement' and worse yet than AJ,  Rivero about the Pentagon 'plane' and how they're just waiting in the wings to discredit the so-called 'valid' scientific investigations with photographs and video that never came. First of all, there is no one 'valid' investigation, there are many with valid and well-reasoned points and the best proven points win, period. Dismissing no planes without investigation is just as retarded as admitting miracle-maneuver planes and bizarro world impacts without investigation 'just so you can't be discredited as a nut.' People who sold the 19 hijackers with box-cutters controlled from a cave did the job are going to call somebody else a 'crazy conspiracy theorist'? Hee hee ha ha ho.   :lol:  Who cares what they say? Like they are walking on solid ground! Being a 'no-planer' does not automatically make someone a disinfo agent anymore than its reverse based only on 'eyewitness' testimony. Planes or no-Planes, the buildings were brought down anyway and only those cave-dwellers who control the media lock,stock and barrel could have pulled that whole charade off.


"Doubt is not a pleasant condition, but certainty is absurd." -Voltaire




Dali - Disappearing Bust of Voltaire


"Truth springs from argument among friends" - David Hume











"Master thyself, then others shall thee beare

      Pull down thy vanity

Thou art a beaten dog beneath the hail
A swollen magpie in a fitful sun,
Half black half white
Nor knowst'ou wing from tail
Pull down thy vanity
                  How mean thy hates
Fostered in falsity
                  Pull down thy vanity
Rathe to destroy, niggard in charity
Pull down thy vanity,
                   I say pull down.

But to have done instead of not doing
           this is not vanity
To have, with decency, knocked
That a Blunt should open
               To have gathered from the air a live tradition
or from a fine old eye the unconquered flame
This is not vanity
         Here error is all in the not done,
all in the diffidence that faltered . . .
---- Ezra Pound

[brandon dean]

yeah, henry makow also said the entire boy scouts organization is a satanist organization because the guy who started it hob-knobbed with famous royalty in england, and he "must" have been a homosexual, because he was raised by his mother.

I'm not so sure at all about henry makow himself.  if he can't find something controversial to write about, it seems he just pulls things out of his ass...

[Timothy_Fitzpatrick]

yeah, henry makow also said the entire boy scouts organization is a satanist organization because the guy who started it hob-knobbed with famous royalty in england, and he "must" have been a homosexual, because he was raised by his mother.

I'm not so sure at all about henry makow himself.  if he can't find something controversial to write about, it seems he just pulls things out of his ass...

As far as I know, Makow is correct. The boyscouts have Masonic roots, and where there is Freemasonry, there is perversion. The Masons likely created the Boyscouts as a place to groom children to be sex slaves to their pedophile fantasies. The NAMBLA-Masonic alliance.

[brandon dean]

yeah, henry makow also said the entire boy scouts organization is a satanist organization because the guy who started it hob-knobbed with famous royalty in england, and he "must" have been a homosexual, because he was raised by his mother.

I'm not so sure at all about henry makow himself.  if he can't find something controversial to write about, it seems he just pulls things out of his ass...

As far as I know, Makow is correct. The boyscouts have Masonic roots, and where there is Freemasonry, there is perversion. The Masons likely created the Boyscouts as a place to groom children to be sex slaves to their pedophile fantasies. The NAMBLA-Masonic alliance.

well, let me just put it this way:  I was a boy scout for years.  I know MANY people who were boy scouts.  I've never heard ONE weird thing about the organization as far as perversion is concerned.  I'm sure there are individual pedophiles like there are anywhere, but just because a christian church, like the baptists, has pedophile preachers does not mean the baptist church was started by child rapists.

first of all, please prove to me the boy scouts has "masonic roots."  what do you mean "as far as you know?"  what exactly does that mean?  that's a really flaky statement.

second, so what if it was started by masons?  lots of people are masons.  the whole "exposure of the freemasons" thing is a sideshow distraction to the real criminals.  makow is ridiculous.  in that boy scouts article, the man actually had the temerity to say that the trial sign on the founder's grave, which means GOODBYE, is really a hidden symbol for a penis and vagina.  all it is is a circle with a dot in the middle.  henry makow is a fucking moron...

sorry man, I've known so many people who've been boy scouts, and we all have nothing but great memories of great experiences.  the boy scouts helped me to grow into a real man who dealt with his problems like a man, and knows how to do things for myself.  that's where I learned to shoot, track, and all sorts of other important survival skills.  yeah, that sounds like albert pike's dream for america to me...  :roll:

my dad was a boy scout, an eagle scout in fact (the highest rank you can achieve), and he was a scoutmaster.  he knows hundreds of boy scouts, and trust me, if there were one whiff of sexual perversion in the people he knows, I would know about it, because my dad has no mercy on them.

whether the scouts leadership are in bed with our enemies or not, the organization still does much good for kids who would otherwise be staring at TV or entranced in a video game instead of out learning how to be a human...

[Timothy_Fitzpatrick]

Getting the info on the boy scouts and Masonry. Exposing Freemasonry is NOT a distraction Brandon. In fact, most of the early anti-Judaic writers during and shortly after the French and Russian revolutions always tied Freemasonry and Judaism together, as if they were one entity. Just because the boyscouts are Masonic, doesn't mean every single member is going to feel or even see the effects of such. It's like the Rotary Club or the Elks Lodge. They use some genuinely humanitarian efforts as a means to an end. But be aware that it does serve a more sinister purpose at the top and overall.

I've encountered several "anti-Judaics" who are partial to Freemasonry because they had a semi-positive experience in the Blue Lodge or slightly higher degrees. Doesn't mean it's benevolent. Freemasonry is a Jewish institution through and through.

Unfortunately, there are many well-meaning anti-Judaics out there that know next to nothing about Freemasonry.

[brandon dean]

Getting the info on the boy scouts and Masonry. Exposing Freemasonry is NOT a distraction Brandon. In fact, most of the early anti-Judaic writers during and shortly after the French and Russian revolutions always tied Freemasonry and Judaism together, as if they were one entity. Just because the boyscouts are Masonic, doesn't mean every single member is going to feel or even see the effects of such. It's like the Rotary Club or the Elks Lodge. They use some genuinely humanitarian efforts as a means to an end. But be aware that it does serve a more sinister purpose at the top and overall.

I've encountered several "anti-Judaics" who are partial to Freemasonry because they had a semi-positive experience in the Blue Lodge or slightly higher degrees. Doesn't mean it's benevolent. Freemasonry is a Jewish institution through and through.

Unfortunately, there are many well-meaning anti-Judaics out there that know next to nothing about Freemasonry.

first of all, I didn't say freemasonry wasn't controlled by talmudic jews.  I'm saying it's a distraction because people separate freemasons from the ziojews.  the ziojews control almost all major organizations, so why focus overmuch on any one of those organizations?  that's what I mean by a distraction.  it's just my opinion.  you may know the true story, but most don't.  most are chasing those phantoms of germanic death cults, not even knowing that those germanic "death cults" were run by jews.

please re-read the last paragraph of my last reply:

whether the scouts leadership are in bed with our enemies or not, the organization still does much good for kids who would otherwise be staring at TV or entranced in a video game instead of out learning how to be a human...

in other words, I've already allowed for the possibility that the scouts' leadership might be controlled from the outside.  and I'm always open to proof.  you show it to me, and I'll change my mind.  I'm just not going to decide the scouts are masonic because their founder's grave has a circle with a dot in the middle of it, like makow was blathering.  someone is not homosexual because they were raised without a father.  the man is off his meds.  if you can show me anything resembling real evidence of masons running the scouts, I'd love to see it, and I will change my mind...

[Negentropic]

All the Truth Figures that ignore the Media Deception were created as part of the psyOP. Even the ones that expose Zionism are fakes.

Created how, Hufschmid ? Like programmed robots? Were they briefed about their 10 year mission like some 007? If they're part of the PsyOP then they pick to be within it for themselves, all of them out of what they have intuited the parameters of the Psy Op or PsyOps  to be. Many PsyOps are operating in the Zeitgeist and Noosphere at any given time and often they overlap. The candidate for self-censorship may custom make for himself a combination of PsyOps to adjust to. The rats are in the maze and learn which way to go, the rats don't have a say in creating the maze. It works better that way. The best directors, whether of film, theatre or the propaganda matrix farce that passes for the world's stage are those that direct the least; they set the stage and the parameters and step back and within that context the actors are able to do most of the creative self-sabotage and group-sabotage work themselves.

So if all the ones that expose Zionism but ignore the Media Deception are fake, then does it follow that all the no-Planers who are not exposing Zionism are also fakes?  

Which would then bring us to:

Those who do expose Zie Zionism and yet remain No-Planers are the only non-fake 'Truth Figures.'  The Ayatollah begs to differ.  :lol:  In my book anyone that exposes the 9/11 false-flag, Zionism and the Holycost all at the same time, planes or no-planes is as good as gold. You've got to realize that most people, even so-called 'tough-guys' often have fragile egos and it's very hard to admit  you've been not just massively duped but completely and 100% duped.  This psychological mechanism that creates self-censorship operates in those that still believe the official absurdity and those who believe in the planes / inside job theory, planes inside/ outside job theory, planes and only Israel theory, no planes and no israel but evil bilderbergers theory and finally teh handful who believe no planes and Zionist job theory.  

[Negentropic]

And in the eyes of the general public those who are both strictly anti-Zionist (believe that the most zealous, powerful and ruthless portion of 2% of the population can easily control the other 98%) and No-Planer (believe that a very few people who own the media used image-fakery to fool the entire world once again and have done so repeatedly in the past) at the same time would of course be considered the ultimate biggest nutjobs who ever lived.  The general sheeple would sooner accept the moonlanding hoax before they accept the the no-planes evidence and the no-planes evidence before they will accept the facts surrounding the holohoax.  Why? Because the media will not prosecute itself and will not allow any of these issues to be discussed even half rationally before being dismissed with a smear and a sneer. People can agree to disagree without jumping down each others' throats. History has shown that the majority will ignore the truth for a long time until it is safe to be a truth-teller. Most people will avoid the truth even if they can be ridiculed and called names over it. What's that famous quote from Schopenhauer?

[Timothy_Fitzpatrick]

Dean, for starters:
Following Arrows
by S. M. Adkins

In a previous article on Freemasonry and Scouting I discussed the honor society of the Boy Scouts of America called the Order of the Arrow.  Founded by two 32nd degree Freemasons in 1915, it spread outwards through the nation to become an official part of the BSA in 1936.  It was not the first such organization created, and it certainly was not the last, but it was by far the most successful.  It was also the most Masonic--although many other early Scout honor societies bore Masonic characteristics, usually by having three grades or degrees, the OA is thoroughly Masonic.  Scouting itself, as conceived by Lord Baden-Powell, has some undeniable Masonic traits; after all, they are both linear systems of progression which use symbolically-charged rituals to instill in men certain lessons about moral, civic and religious duty.  As we will see, Masonry has not only influenced official BSA honor programs such as the OA, it appears in initiation ceremonies for new Scouts.  From Cubs to Eagles, the Masonic and other esoteric influences are apparent.

The Scout movement is rich in symbolism and it is through its symbols that I have chosen to explore the movement, for every rank, club, camp and Jamboree has its patch, a symbol to honor it.  Scouting is regimented and symbols are its markers of authority and achievement.  The Boy Scouts of America was conceived of as representing a form of regenerated youth, yet men and boys were grouping themselves within the BSA into secretive honor societies before the BSA's fifth anniversary.  A multitude of such groups existed; the clamor for it became so great that the BSA was required to accept the inevitability and recognize the biggest; when the OA became official, it was only a matter of time before all but the most stalwart rivals went by the wayside.  Masonry was the perfect model for the OA, an almost guaranteed formula for success.

The symbols of the OA are not entirely unique to the group, and it is through its symbols that I discovered much of the rest of the information included in this article.  It almost all springs forth from the question:  Why the Order of the Arrow?

In the OA Ordeal ritual the Arrow is explained thusly:

    As the warrior draws the arrow most trustworthy from the quiver, you were drawn from many others, for the first shaft of the hunter must be straightest, must be surest. If through many moons unflinching you hold fast to Scouting pledges, straight and true you each will travel as an arrow driven skyward, as an eagle soaring sunward. (OA Ordeal Ritual)

In the OA the arrow symbolizes the elite.   In other contexts it symbolizes war and mortality, but like the needle on a compass, its function is to point the way and it appears repeatedly in Scouting.  Note here several themes in the excerpt: elitism, destiny, obedience, discipline, travel.  A comparison with the Eagle is made: traveling high above, through the sky and into the sun.  The boy is an Arrow.

Continued http://100megsfree4.com/stimso/oa2.htm

[brandon dean]

Dean, for starters:
Following Arrows
by S. M. Adkins

In a previous article on Freemasonry and Scouting I discussed the honor society of the Boy Scouts of America called the Order of the Arrow.  Founded by two 32nd degree Freemasons in 1915, it spread outwards through the nation to become an official part of the BSA in 1936.  It was not the first such organization created, and it certainly was not the last, but it was by far the most successful.  It was also the most Masonic--although many other early Scout honor societies bore Masonic characteristics, usually by having three grades or degrees, the OA is thoroughly Masonic.  Scouting itself, as conceived by Lord Baden-Powell, has some undeniable Masonic traits; after all, they are both linear systems of progression which use symbolically-charged rituals to instill in men certain lessons about moral, civic and religious duty.  As we will see, Masonry has not only influenced official BSA honor programs such as the OA, it appears in initiation ceremonies for new Scouts.  From Cubs to Eagles, the Masonic and other esoteric influences are apparent.

The Scout movement is rich in symbolism and it is through its symbols that I have chosen to explore the movement, for every rank, club, camp and Jamboree has its patch, a symbol to honor it.  Scouting is regimented and symbols are its markers of authority and achievement.  The Boy Scouts of America was conceived of as representing a form of regenerated youth, yet men and boys were grouping themselves within the BSA into secretive honor societies before the BSA's fifth anniversary.  A multitude of such groups existed; the clamor for it became so great that the BSA was required to accept the inevitability and recognize the biggest; when the OA became official, it was only a matter of time before all but the most stalwart rivals went by the wayside.  Masonry was the perfect model for the OA, an almost guaranteed formula for success.

The symbols of the OA are not entirely unique to the group, and it is through its symbols that I discovered much of the rest of the information included in this article.  It almost all springs forth from the question:  Why the Order of the Arrow?

In the OA Ordeal ritual the Arrow is explained thusly:

    As the warrior draws the arrow most trustworthy from the quiver, you were drawn from many others, for the first shaft of the hunter must be straightest, must be surest. If through many moons unflinching you hold fast to Scouting pledges, straight and true you each will travel as an arrow driven skyward, as an eagle soaring sunward. (OA Ordeal Ritual)

In the OA the arrow symbolizes the elite.   In other contexts it symbolizes war and mortality, but like the needle on a compass, its function is to point the way and it appears repeatedly in Scouting.  Note here several themes in the excerpt: elitism, destiny, obedience, discipline, travel.  A comparison with the Eagle is made: traveling high above, through the sky and into the sun.  The boy is an Arrow.

Continued http://100megsfree4.com/stimso/oa2.htm

ok, so what's the deal here?  I'm just supposed to take this author's word for it?  is there a reason there are no source notes?  where is he getting his info from?  I want to see proof, not speculation.  and I was talking about the boy scouts, not the order of the arrow or any other BSA honor societies geared towards older-than-boy-scout-age people.

this person makes all kinds of assumptions without backing any of it up with proof.  

As we will see, Masonry has not only influenced official BSA honor programs such as the OA, it appears in initiation ceremonies for new Scouts.

funny, because "as we will see," he never mentions the initiation "ceremony" again.  there is no "initiation ceremony" for scouts.  you do the scout salute and say how a scout should be "brave, strong, courteous, etc..."  yeah, that's what I'd call a masonic ceremony...  

sorry, next...

[Timothy_Fitzpatrick]

Well like I said, it's a means-to-an-end scenario. Boyscouts, Rotary, Elks, Shriners ad nauseum. With all the rituals and symbolism, are the boyscouts of America grooming kids for the Masonic Lodge?

Obviously, you are partial to the scouts, yourself being one. I was never a scout, so I am impartial...at least in my eyes Im not bashing the boyscouts, they do a lot for children, but I know better. All the other groups that fall under the Judeo-Masonic umbrella also offer attributes to lure people in.

Your reaction is similar to that of when I used to tell people that Billy Graham is a high-ranking Freemason. Fortunately for the truth, the evidence became overwhelming and they could no longer deny it. The Billy Graham Foundation even put out a disinfo letter trying to rebut. Too bad for Commie Billy and his friends.

[Negentropic]

I see no contradiction between TV Fakery research and Zionism research. No contradiction at all. Listen to Red Stars Over Hollywood by Myron Fagan

Lordy lord! I wasn't implying that there was a friggin' cotton-pickin' contradiction, just giving the general roll-call of the many factions and degrees of the so-called 'truth tellers' out there as far as I can see it at this point in time versus how I also see the brainwashed sheeple's mass psychology is likely to react to it to protect its comfortably numb self-delusions and mediocre functionability within the matrix.   I already said planes or no planes, the same people who are in charge of the media and powerful enough to get access to the buildings to rig them for pulverized demolition through nano-thermite or whatever means, and powerful enough to destroy all the crime-scene evidence and get away with the cover-up, etc. etc., basically most of the people named in MSMD Yiddy Yoda's impersario post which he later modified to include the 'CIA' and bloodthirsty Americans as if the CIA wasn't created and run by the same elite gang of merry men, those are the particular criminals already busted. I'm sure there are more collaborators to pull out of the woodworks but that particular crime has been more than amply solved even though the criminals cannot be brought to justice. Millions of people being so delusional and psy-oped, from low-level TV-baby sheeple to high level Alex Jones type conspiracy experts, so as to not see the evidence for what it is, do not make the case any less solved than it already is. I mean when the fuck did the world devolve to the point where so much massive evidence is needed in order to prove the crime and bust the criminals? It used to be that on Sherlock Holmes and Columbo, they would look for clues that led to one piece of hard evidence that would break the case wide open and that one piece of hard evidence, masterfully presented and argued, was enough to send some ass-clown down to the slammer. That's where the psy-ops come in on the collective level to paralyze action, the bigger the lie the more likely that it will work on the collective unconscious to induce freely-chosen selective blindness, mass fear of the truth being exposed and destroying the pathetic last remnants of  the 'comfortable slavery' they call a middle-class lifestyle, having learned to enjoy-their-servitude and ignore the complete and utter possibility of a vastly better life, as Aldous Huxley predicted.

I have already listened to all the Myron Fagan recordings many times and that particular one is especially great because he names so many famous names from old Hollywood.



Always worth reading or re-reading in this context is the following analysis of mass-pychology written in the wake of the first attack on Iraq from the writer of the movie "Breaking Away" who had become, Fagan-like, though not necessarily in the straight-out anti-Zionist vein, a strong critic of the NWO and its psy-ops:

"The problems confronting us now are no longer seen as problems. Truth is perceived as the problem, as the real enemy, and more and more we look to our government to protect us from it.
 
When the War in the Gulf began we therefore not only accepted, we embraced with patriotic fervor, press censorship of the war. We would only see what our government wanted us to see and we saw nothing wrong with that. We liked it that way. Our government was looking after us. It wasn't that long ago, however, that we felt nothing but pity for the poor Soviet people whose undemocratic government controlled the media and censored all the news from the war in Afghanistan.
 
The wimping of truth took another step recently when the diplomatic cables of our Ambassador to Iraq were declassified by the State Department.
 
The justification for the entire war rested on the premise that war was unavoidable and that our Ambassador in the firmest of tones had warned Saddam Hussein not to violate the territorial integrity of Kuwait. Our State Department assured us that this was true. Our Ambassador, testifying in front of the Senate, reaffirmed the truth of this position.
 
It now turns out, just as we expected, that it was all a lie. But the fact that our government now feels safe in declassifying these tapes bespeaks another truth.
They are no longer afraid of truth because they know that the truth will have little impact on us. Their message to us is this: we've given you a glorious victory and we've given you back your self esteem...now here's the truth. Which do you prefer?
 
The implications are terrifying. We are being told that we can't have both anymore, truth and self esteem. We have to choose. One excludes the other.
 
The implications are even more terrifying than this. Our government now perceives that we are entering a new phase where we, in return for self esteem, are willing to lie to ourselves.
 
We are rapidly becoming prototypes of a people that totalitarian monsters could only drool about in their dreams. All the dictators up to now have had to work and work hard at suppressing the truth. We, by our actions, are saying that this is no longer necessary, that we have acquired a spiritual mechanism which can denude the truth of any significance. In a very fundamental way we, as a free people, have freely decided that we want to live in some post-truth world."


--- Steve Tesich – "The Wimping of America"

A Boy Scouts' Patrol song


These are our regulations --
There's just one law for the Scout
And the first and the last, and the present and the past,
And the future and the perfect is "Look out!"
I, thou and he, look out!
We, ye and they, look out!
Though you didn't or you wouldn't
Or you hadn't or you couldn't;
You jolly well must look out!

Look out, when you start for the day
That your kit is packed to your mind;
There is no use going away
With half of it left behind.
Look out that your laces are tight,
And your boots are easy and stout,
Or you'll end with a blister at night.
(Chorus) All Patrols look out!

Look out for the birds of the air,
Look out for the beasts of the field --
They'll tell you how and where
The other side's concealed.
When the blackbird bolts from the copse,
Or the cattle are staring about,
The wise commander stops
And (chorus) All Patrols look out!

Look out when your front is clear,
And you feel you are bound to win.
Look out for your flank and your rear --
That's where surprises begin.
For the rustle that isn't a rat,
For the splash that isn't a trout,
For the boulder that may be a hat
(Chorus) All Patrols look out!

For the innocent knee-high grass,
For the ditch that never tells,
Look out! Look out ere you pass --
And look out for everything else!
A sign mis-read as you run
May turn retreat to a rout --
For all things under the sun
(Chorus) All Patrols look out!

Look out when your temper goes
At the end of a losing game;
When your boots are too tight for your toes;
And you answer and argue and blame.
It's the hardest part of the Low,
But it has to be learnt by the Scout --
For whining and shirking and "jaw"
(Chorus) All Patrols look out!

Rudyard Kipling




The Mother-Lodge


There was Rundle, Station Master,
An' Beazeley of the Rail,
An' 'Ackman, Commissariat,
An' Donkin' o' the Jail;
An' Blake, Conductor-Sargent,
Our Master twice was 'e,
With 'im that kept the Europe-shop,
Old Framjee Eduljee.

Outside — "Sergeant! Sir! Salute! Salaam!"
Inside — "Brother", an' it doesn't do no 'arm.
We met upon the Level an' we parted on the Square,
An' I was Junior Deacon in my Mother-Lodge out there!

We'd Bola Nath, Accountant,
An' Saul the Aden Jew,
An' Din Mohammed, draughtsman
Of the Survey Office too;
There was Babu Chuckerbutty,
An' Amir Singh the Sikh,
An' Castro from the fittin'-sheds,
The Roman Catholick!

We 'adn't good regalia,
An' our Lodge was old an' bare,
But we knew the Ancient Landmarks,
An' we kep' 'em to a hair;
An' lookin' on it backwards
It often strikes me thus,
There ain't such things as infidels,
Excep', per'aps, it's us.

For monthly, after Labour,
We'd all sit down and smoke
(We dursn't give no banquits,
Lest a Brother's caste were broke),
An' man on man got talkin'
Religion an' the rest,
An' every man comparin'
Of the God 'e knew the best.

So man on man got talkin',
An' not a Brother stirred
Till mornin' waked the parrots
An' that dam' brain-fever-bird;
We'd say 'twas 'ighly curious,
An' we'd all ride 'ome to bed,
With Mo'ammed, God, an' Shiva
Changin' pickets in our 'ead.

Full oft on Guv'ment service
This rovin' foot 'ath pressed,
An' bore fraternal greetin's
To the Lodges east an' west,
Accordin' as commanded
From Kohat to Singapore,
But I wish that I might see them
In my Mother-Lodge once more!

I wish that I might see them,
My Brethren black an' brown,
With the trichies smellin' pleasant
An' the hog-darn passin' down;
An' the old khansamah snorin'
On the bottle-khana floor,
Like a Master in good standing
With my Mother-Lodge once more!

Outside — "Sergeant! Sir! Salute! Salaam!"
Inside — "Brother", an' it doesn't do no 'arm.
We met upon the Level an' we parted on the Square,
An' I was Junior Deacon in my Mother-Lodge out there!


Rudyard Kipling


The Thousandth Man



One man in a thousand, Solomon says,
Will stick more close than a brother.
And it's worth while seeking him half your days
If you find him before the other.
Nine hundred and ninety-nine depend
On what the world sees in you,
But the Thousandth man will stand your friend
With the whole round world agin' you.

'Tis neither promise nor prayer nor show
Will settle the finding for 'ee.
Nine hundred and ninety-nine of 'em go
By your looks, or your acts, or your glory.
But if he finds you and you find him.
The rest of the world don't matter;
For the Thousandth Man will sink or swim
With you in any water.

You can use his purse with no more talk
Than he uses yours for his spendings,
And laugh and meet in your daily walk
As though there had been no lendings.
Nine hundred and ninety-nine of 'em call
For silver and gold in their dealings;
But the Thousandth Man he's worth 'em all,
Because you can show him your feelings.

His wrong's your wrong, and his right's your right,
In season or out of season.
Stand up and back it in all men's sight —
With that for your only reason!
Nine hundred and ninety-nine can't bide
The shame or mocking or laughter,
But the Thousandth Man will stand by your side
To the gallows-foot — and after!

Rudyard Kipling


Kipling with his daughter Josephine


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Kipling was a British citizen, born in Bombay, India in 1865. His father was principal of an art school in India. He returned to England when he was five years old. When he graduated from college at the age of 17, he returned to India, and began writing for the Civil and Military Gazette.

It is recorded that "...after the paper had been put to bed in the sultry Indian midnight, he would find his way into the old walled city to sense the mystic atmosphere of that colourful land and its ancient people, and to exercise a talent for absorbing background and for storing in his memory impressions and incidents which provided material for a half-century of literary production. In the bazaars, from all sorts and conditions of natives, from police officers, and from service people, he gathered copy that was to be the basis of many poems and stories."

Another biographer says that "One of the channels by which he penetrated the underworld was Freemasonry — he was fascinated by the mysterious bond that over-came class rules. Freemasonry was a cult that transcended caste and sects. It was the only ground in a caste ridden country on which adherents of different religions could meet on the level."

In 1892, he married an American, Caroline Starr Balestier, who introduced him to several notable American authors. He received an honorary degree from Oxford University in 1907 along with one of his contemporaries, Brother Mark Twain. Also in 1907, Kipling became the first British writer to receive the Nobel Prize for Literature.  He and his American wife lived in her family estate in Vermont from 1892 until 1896, when they returned to England. The home in Vermont has been preserved as a historical landmark.


Rudyard Kipling was made a Mason at Hope and Perseverance Lodge No. 782 at Lahore Punjab, India on April 5, 1886. His work required special dispensation, because he was only twenty years, two months old at the time. The same evening that he was raised, he was elected secretary of his Lodge so that he recorded his own initiation in the minutes of his Lodge.

A few months later, he delivered a lecture in his lodge on the "Origin of the Craft First Degree."

He advanced in the Mark Degree in Fidelity Mark Lodge on April 12, 1887 and was elevated in Mt. Ararat Mark Mariners Lodge at Lahore on the same day. He attended an Installation meeting of Independence with Philanthropy Lodge No. 391 at Allahabad, Bengal on December 22, 1887. On March 4, 1889, he demitted from his Craft Lodge and resigned from his other Lodges three months later on June 30, 1889.

Returning to England, he was offered an honorary membership with Author's Lodge No. 3456 sometime after its founding in 1910 and with Motherland Lodge No. 3861, London, in 1918. There is no record of him attending either of these Lodges. He was a Founding Member of Builders of the Silent Cities Lodge No. 12, retaining his membership until his death. In 1905, Canongate-Kilwinning Lodge No. 2, Edinburgh, Scotland chose him as poet laureate as they had a previous Brother, Robert Burns. The Philalethes Research Society in North America also lists him as an honorary member although there is no record of any attendance, correspondence or submission of research papers. The Philalethes Society honored Kipling for his Masonic stories Kim and The Man Who Would Be King. Kipling joined the Quatuor Coronati Correspondence Circle in May, 1918, remaining a member until his death in 1936. Although he paid his dues promptly, there is no record of his attending a meeting. On November 17, 1924 he is recorded as attending Rosemary Lodge No. 2851 E.C., giving his Lodge as Motherland No. 3861.

http://burningtaper.blogspot.com/2007/05/rudyard-kipling-poet-author-freemason.html




'Boy Scouts in War Time'

from a War-Time Children's Book

http://www.greatwardifferent.com/Great_War/Boy_Scouts/Boy_Scouts_Text.htm

[Christopher Marlowe]

I got my Freemason merit badge when I was still a cub scout. The badge itself is of the "Boaz" grip on a red background.  I had to memorize about 37 handshakes, and thread some popcorn on a fishing line.

I was about 8 years old. At the Jamboree in Obygolleegosh, I was admitted into a dark tent. Then the Scoutmaster handed me a candle and lighted it at both ends. Then he began the initiation:

ScoutMaster: Brother Boy Scout.
Me: Worshipful Master. Fire Starter. Badge Giver. Car Pooler.
ScoutMaster: I hele.
Me: I conceal.
ScoutMaster: What do you conceal?
Me: All the secrets of a Mason in Masonry, to which this merit badge alludes: How to set a line and a level; How to tamp brick pavers;  How to fillet a prostitute.
 
(At this time, the candidate is shown the grip of an Entered Apprentice)

SCOUTMASTER: What is that?
Me: A grip
SCOUTMASTER. Of what?
Me: Of an Entered Apprentice.
SCOUTMASTER: Is that real leather?
Me: Yep.
SCOUTMASTER. Has it a name?
ME: It has. Kenneth Cole. Got it online. They were all out of brown.
SCOUTMASTER: Will you give it to me?
ME: I did not so receive it, neither will I so impart it....But I might be willing to sell it to you.
SCOUTMASTER: How will you dispose of it?
ME: Letter it or halve it.
SCOUTMASTER: Letter it and begin.
ME: You begin.
SCOUTMASTER: Begin you.
ME: Jinx.
SCOUTMASTER: (Sigh)
ME: Okay. Scoutmaster, Scoutmaster, Scoutmaster.
ME: J
SCOUTMASTER: E
ME: W

(The Scoutmaster rolls out the paper.)

SCOUTMASTER: This rice paper is a test. Clinging as the cocoon of a silkworm; Fragile as the wings of a butterfly; If you can walk its length and leave no trace, you will have learned....how to walk on rice paper.

(The apprentice walks on the rice paper.)

SCOUTMASTER: You tore it! F*ck!
ME: You told me to walk on it.
SCOUTMASTER: Do you even know how much that sh*t costs?
ME: I thought it was a test.
SCOUTMASTER: Holy crap!  You still have your boots on!
ME: Sorry.

(At this point the ScoutMaster pretends to fly into a rage and hit the apprentice with whatever is handy, usually a wooden spoon, three times on the buttocks.)

ME: Ouch. F*ck! You didn't have to do it so hard.
SCOUTMASTER: What are the Five Points of Fellowship?
ME: Beer. Chuck Norris. Sports. Cars. And Beer.
SCOUTMASTER: You have passed. Enter the fellowship, exalted brother. There is a $5 minimum.
ME: Do you have change for a twenty?

[Timothy_Fitzpatrick]

LOL, you have quite an imagination Marlowe.

[CrackSmokeRepublican]

Worth a look:
Theosophy and Boy Scouts
http://rexcurry.net/ussr-socialist-swas ... -sssr.html


Francis was a Freemason and he promoted the robotic chanting and the salute within that group and other groups. The Royal Masonic Cyclopaedia (1877) includes the swastika and calls it the Hermetic Cross (Hermeticism was a form of Gnostic Christianity) and refers to its use in Europe (France).

The Bellamys and Blavatsky promoted their dogma through many other civic, religious and philosophical groups.

The Bellamy-Blavatsky dogma was similar to that of many other civic, religious, social and fraternal groups (e.g. Boy Scouts and Girl Scouts) in that it suffers ignorance of economics, markets, prices, trade and private property rights. That deficiency in most groups makes group-members easily misled into socialism. http://rexcurry.net/pledge-of-allegiance-scouting.html

Some people consider Theosophy and Blavatsky the origin of the New Age movement, and that is apropos in that the New Age movement suffers from the same vague socialist dogma.

The Bellamys and Blavatsky saw in their movements a practical means to further their "ideal of universal brotherhood." (see Arthur E. Morgan in his biography, Edward Bellamy, 1948, pp. 260-75; see also The Key to Theosophy by H. P. Blavatsky, pp. 44-5. -- K.V.M.] . The political product was socialism and self-sacrifice to government by calling it the "greater good."

There was a white supremacist ideology in it, with talk of root races, claiming that the fifth of which, the Aryans, were vastly more "evolved" than the lower races. Blavatsky openly referred to negros and Indians and "half-human mongrels", though her followers excuse this by claiming that she believed white people were also once black skinned, and because of their personal drive to advance spiritually they were reincarnated as white people. It was basically Hinduism, and difficult to defend (the Hindu connection provides another angle to the swastika as a symbolic symbol of the dogma).

Helena Blavatsky inspired Alfred Rosenberg (who was also inspired by Bellamy's book and may have been the one to introduce it to the Thule Society) though Rosenberg's top interest was antisemitism, inspired by the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, followed by Aryan supremacy (as introduced by Helena Blavatsky):

"The intellectual difference between the Aryan and other civilized nations and such savages as the South Sea Islanders, is inexplicable on any other grounds. No amount of culture, nor generations of training amid civilization, could raise such human specimens as the Bushmen, the Veddhas of Ceylon, and some African tribes, to the same intellectual level as the Aryans ..." (The Secret Doctrine).

Blavatsky also promoted the notion of Brotherhoods and Societies dedicated to the Occult. Where I see Bellamy's book coming in, is with the creation of a perfect society, once they got rid of the Jews and bred an Aryan race. And of course, you can't mistake the military socialism.

It is remarkable to note that at the time this was written, the Theosophical Society of America (TSA) continued to maintain its Springfield Branch office at the Edward Bellamy House, 93 Church Street, Chicopee, MA and also its library.

Edward Bellamy's famous utopian novel "Looking Backward from 2000 to 1887," was set in the year 2000, and published in 1888.  It was the third largest bestseller of its time and was known as the Bible of National Socialism. It appears by title in many of the major socialist writings of the day. Edward's book was an international bestseller, translated into every major language (including Russian, German and Chinese). The Bellamy dogma inspired the "Nationalism" movement in the USA, Germany and worldwide. Edward inspired the creation of the Nationalist Party. Edward supported the Nationalist Magazine, the Nationalist Educational Association, and Nationalist Clubs everywhere.

Edward Bellamy also influenced his cousin Francis Bellamy, famous for the Pledge of Allegiance.  Francis created the Pledge to promote their dogma in government schools. The Bellamys admired the military and they wanted the entire economy to ape the military. They called their dogma "military socialism" and they wanted to create the "industrial army" through government takeover of all schools.

When the government granted their wish, government schools imposed segregation by law and taught racism as official policy. It served as a bad example for three decades before the NSGWP. The practice in the USA even outlasted the NSGWP by more than 15 years.

The American Pledge and extended-arm salute from Bellamy-Blavatsky socialists was the origin of the salutes of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, the Peoples' Republic of China, and the National Socialist German Workers' Party, and it inspired their robotic chanting and worship of government and flags and symbols in their government schools (socialist schools). http://rexcurry.net/ussr-socialist-swas ... -sssr.html

As early 1875, Blavatsky's famous personal seal employed a swastika symbol and promoted the swastika throughout the TS (Jinarajadasa, p. 19 with the heading 'H.P.B.'s Seal in 1875' and The Theosophist, August 1931, p. 645).  The swastika is the top-most symbol of seven symbols, and the swastika is placed underneath a royal crown and directly atop another central symbol, a hexagram (six points), with the other six symbols in a circular arrangement around the six points. Blavatsky's seal also employs alphabetic symbolism in the form of Blavatsky's initials in the center of the seal.

The swastika that Blavatsky used is unusual because it is exactly like the swastika adopted later by the National Socialist German Workers' Party (NSGWP) and otherwise known as "the socialist swastika" : The swastika sits on a point (it is turned 45 degrees to the horizontal) and the arms point clockwise.

The historian Dr. Rex Curry (author of "Swastika Secrets") showed how that style of swastika emphasizes the "S" letters for "Socialism," or the "Superior Socialists" or "Socialist Society." See the image at http://rexcurry.net/fascism-third-reich ... ika456.jpg

http://rexcurry.net/theosophy-madame-bl ... ciety.html

[CrackSmokeRepublican]

http://www.survivalistboards.com/showth ... ode=linear

[rodin]

http://www.survivalistboards.com/showthread.php?t=56984&mode=linear

That survival board seems woefully Jew-unwise.

[Negentropic]

Marlowe is a great sit-com writer. He should get a Monty Python type troupe together to perform his bits and then put the videos on you tube. His humor is always understated and coming out of left-field for maximum effect. This one and that Paul McCartney bit he wrote a while back are classics of on-the-spot improvised conspiracy forum comic literature:  


Marlowe's Pauly Mac and Beatles send-off is post #12 over here:

http://theinfounderground.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=11922&start=0

[Christopher Marlowe]

Thx for your kind words, Negetropic. It certainly feels good to be appreciated.

[Daurade]

Hi, I know this is a bit after the fact and maybe pointless, but I'm the author of the article about Freemasonry and the Scouts originally quoted by Tim Fitzpatrick and which Brandon Dean claims is nonsense for not having any sources, making unsubstantiated claims and talking about Scout initiation ceremonies and never following up on it.  He goes on to say there are no such things as initiation ceremonies in Scouting.

At first I was completely befuddled by his criticism because I do have sources, footnotes and internal citations.  After initially mentioning initiations, the word appears at least a half a dozen times in the text and I specifically name, quote and link to the complete text of the ceremonies in question.  These ceremonies date to 1928 and are no longer in use, thus unknown to most Scouters, but they did exist and I link to the BSA reference numbers for the original pamphlets.

Every claim I make is backed up and every speculation is duly noted as such.  I wondered how Brandon Dean could have so badly misrepresented my essay and then I realized:  Fitzpatrick only quoted my introduction and not the full essay, which runs to several pages, maybe 20 in a Word .doc!  There's is a link, but it's broken....

So basically Dean is criticizing the work because he didn't get the opportunity to read the full essay, which addresses his concerns and reveals his criticisms to be based on falsehoods about my work.  Made in good faith, I think, because he assumed the quote by Fitzpatrick is the full essay.

So Brandon, and anyone else, read the full essay here:  http://phoenixmasonry.org/following_arrows.htm

I think this essay is a bit speculative and I'm sure some people might disagree with some of my ideas, but they are supported by research and there are descriptions and links to things Dean says don't exist. I wasn't just making stuff up.

I also have another essay about Freemasonry and the Order of the Arrow which is more focused and less speculative which may be of interest:  http://phoenixmasonry.org/freemasonry_soucting_and_the_order_of_the_arrow.htm

So, no hard feelings, I think there was a misunderstanding and hopefully this clears it up somewhat.  Thanks.