new girl here

[girlyoudontknow2]

Hey, I have already posted once and have been told that females are somewhat underrepresented here.  Too bad, because I believe that many women would have a lot of value and substance to contribute here, from a different perspective.  However, I could be biased in this matter.  Either way, hopefully no one here minds my presence.  I know this is probably basically a "man's world" here.  But this thing affects us all.  

I have only become aware of the conspiracy somewhat recently, and so would love to use this forum both to share, and, mostly to learn about what we are facing and to communicate different ideas for preparations and solutions.  There are very few people that I can discuss this with in my real life.  I think that is a common problem.  So, my first question might be: how do you deal with this?  How do you bring up the subject with friends/family who are not yet awake?  Or, do you?  Finding likeminded people online to share with is important, but even more important will be having likeminded people in your real life.  Unfortunately, I find people get very defensive very quickly.  Is there a way to approach it that doesn't automatically lead to the fear/anger response?  My first encounter with any of this was watching the film Zeitgeist and then, America: Freedom to Fascism.  While I have some problems with Zeitgeist now (I believe the filmmakers had an agenda) it at least began my journey down the rabbit hole.  However, a friend of mine watched it and was apparently not ready for it and is now completely turned off to any "conspiracy theory garbage, propaganda."  It was just too much, too fast.

Interestingly, this same friend that had said, "9/11 couldn't have been a US Government job, it is too hard to keep that big a secret," once I told him that it was very likely a Mossad/CIA job, immediately changed his opinion and was like, "yeah, now that I could believe."  This is good news, it is a start.  The truth is slipping out, slowly, but we need to get more out there, and fast... without scaring people back into their sandy hole.

Another question I would like to pose, to any and all who want to field it, is what are you doing in your personal life to stop the jewish/zionist/NWO?  

I look forward to many great conversations here.  Thanks for listening to my babble.

[joeblow]

Even though this will make everyone go crazy here, I'm going to say it. I use the AJ (Alex Jones) method, I give them a DVD with a bunch of movies on it (and an excellent menu I make with Nero) and ask them what they think about it. I tell them that I got it from another guy and it had some really intresting things on it. Later, start dropping knowledge on him when y'all discuss it.

[girlyoudontknow2]

I am sure Aaron Russo was not totally open or honest... however, because of his untimely demise, sympathy for him runs deep and wide and since he is no longer around to spread any more disinformation, I personally try not to even go there.  That is why I like to keep the focus on Alex Jones.  

You are wise not to trust Ron Paul either (how come he still has so much of the campaign money left???)  ... but, I do like the fact that he brings the Fed to the attention of the masses.  That alone is a heck of a lot more than the other puppets will ever do.  And, the "Ron Paul revolution" though a means of controlling the opposition, is definitely responsible at least in part, for my being here today... and I believe many others are the same.  It was a stepping stone toward the truth.  Not all will use it that way.  Many think that the road ends there.  Much like the rabid AJ followers.  We need to get to these people.  They are already going down the path, we just need to get them to open their eyes a bit more.

[Anonymous]

Welcome aboard.  Its a tough battle to wake individuals up, sometimes it does work though.  For best results, add 1 egg, 2 teaspoons of sugar... sorry, I mean, start them off on crime that is proven with documents to be true.  For example if 911 is too big for them, go to how Vietnam was started by the USA, how MKUltra was a CIA experiment on the people, how the Government has tested chemicals and biological agents on army personnel and citizens.  It is all logically provable using reason and open mind, but some people lack those capacities.  If you try to wake them up and they don't give a shit, well too bad for them, don't was your time (happened to me, giving out 911 vids and Freedom to Fascism at work in 2006, out of the 10 people I gave stuff to, only 2 cared to some degree to talk about it).  The money system fraud is a whopper of an issue and is complicated, but if they can grasp it they should realize some things.  Money as Debt is my favourite.

Peace

[girlyoudontknow2]

Yes, Money as Debt and the Money Masters are two films that were very eye-opening and life-changing for me.  Especially the Money Masters, which is long and looked dated, but once I got over my initial reservations about it, it was time VERY well spent.  The Fed/Monetary system/IRS is at the heart of this beast.  If we can expose that, to those who can both tolerate that much truth and understand its implications, then we are on our way to winning the battle.  

So, you think Money As Debt is a good one for a "newbie?"

I personally believe that starving the money beast and becoming, all of us, more self-sufficient (growing our own food, or at least some of it) is key.  The other is to stop buying their crap.  Stop giving your money to the corporations.  When you have to buy something, buy it from local shops, whenever you can.  Have you ever noticed that wherever there are large populations of jews, there are tons of soulless chain/corporate/mall/strip mall stores?  They love this shit.  Eat it for breakfast.  It is commercial and "trendy" and completely unoriginal.  And this shit is taking over the world.  Mom and pops can't compete.  When they are all gone, the k/js will have no competition left.

Once again, babbling, or at least, going on and on... this is a subject that I could go on and on about because I can't talk about it outside of the internet.  Sucks.

[Anonymous]

... becoming, all of us, more self-sufficient (growing our own food, or at least some of it) is key. The other is to stop buying their crap. Stop giving your money to the corporations. When you have to buy something, buy it from local shops ...

Indeed.  Get off the dependent rat maze of economic and wellness destruction.

[blueocean]

Indeed.  Get off the dependent rat maze of economic and wellness destruction.

Maybe do the freeman thing? just traveling through the country withou any money.

[arctic.warfare]

I'm in 8th grade, so obviously I'm somewhat limited in what I can do from a day-to-day basis. girlyoudontknow2 (henceforth referred to as "girl"), you are entirely correct when you warn us about "information overload". The little things always add up to a larger picture, and seeing as we've all been indoctrinated to bend over for the badge and trust the government, it's somewhat hard to instill suspicion in people, without building it up over a long period of time. I occasionally have discussions with some of my friends about various isolated topics (MKULTRA is a favourite of mine), and go on the occasional anti-Zionist rant, and some of them are beginning to question this unusual reality, for all it's worth, and are slowly refusing to take things at face value. But the real danger here are people who are really half-asleep, and slowly drift over to Alex Jones or Alan Watt. Then, the disinformation starts, and it can be somewhat hard to turn them away from that, as well.

Really, though, people need to start following the money. The paper trail leads to the truth about every important world event to occur in the past two hundred years - everything from the Battle of Waterloo to the Guatemalan Civil War to 9/11 to Global Warming. As well, people need to take a somewhat revisionary glance at the media which they consume on a day-to-day basis - I was never much of a television person, but I know quite a few people that are. But really, slap a copy of Nineteen Eighty-Four into the hands of the unenlightened, and they will begin to question this false democracy. Orwellian principle is not unique to communism, in its applicability. I suppose the best way to make the hypothetical horse drink from the fountain of truth, is to simply allow them to fulfill the basics - follow the money, question authority, and deny the mainstream media. These three will eventually lead to the truth, as it did for most, if not all, of us.

[girlyoudontknow2]

arctic warfare,

You are in the 8th grade?  I must say, it does me good to hear such intelligent statements coming from someone so young.  You are wise beyond your years.  A leader in the making.  (Is this what people sound like when they are not really television people?)  I imagine it is both a blessing and a curse for you to have so much insight at such a young age.  

Can I ask you if you are American and if you go to public or private school?  You don't have to answer.  I am just curious.

[arctic.warfare]

arctic warfare,

You are in the 8th grade?  I must say, it does me good to hear such intelligent statements coming from someone so young.  You are wise beyond your years.  A leader in the making.  (Is this what people sound like when they are not really television people?)  I imagine it is both a blessing and a curse for you to have so much insight at such a young age.  

Can I ask you if you are American and if you go to public or private school?  You don't have to answer.  I am just curious.

I am from Canada, actually, and I go to an urban public school. Ottawa, to be precise. Thank you for your extremely kind words, girl. You seem to be a very intelligent person yourself, I hope you stick around.

[Ognir]

Slip in a "Welcome to TiU" Girl, enjoy

[girlyoudontknow2]

Thanks Ognir, I have listened to several of your radio shows now and enjoy them immensely.  Good stuff there.  Thank you for being at the forefront of what I see as the true truth movement.

[girlyoudontknow2]

Arctic Warfare, so, I am guessing that there must be both less flouride in the water and less rigid indoctrination in the school system in Canada.  Or, maybe you are just smart.  Either way, thanks for your kind words.

[Anonymous]

Welcome and glad to have another female aboard TiU!  

I don't necessarily believe that females are under represented at TiU, I think that most truth-seeking females might not be attracted to this particular kind of forum.  Its no BS, ballsy, in-your-face approach to truth requires a strong sense of self, guts and the absolute conviction that TiU's mission is a just patriotic cause.  No hems or haws here, please.  

It is a goal of mine to tackle the problem of networking with other truth-seekers and patriots.  I also have no doubt, that it will be risky due to the zionist infiltration of every nook and cranny in our society.  My only outlet, though, for interaction with other truth-seekers is online.  At the moment, I have no 'real-life' friends or associates, and even if I did, it is doubtful that they would be open-minded.  My lengthy work career has taken me to many offices where the support staff, secretaries, etc., are more like gossip drones than people, much less, patriotic Americans.  Mostly, they are fully indoctrinated and assimilated into 'New World Order Amerika'.  God fearing, politically correct, Friday night wrestling fans, that would not even remotely entertain the idea that their own government was responsible for 9/11 and the subsequent 'war on terrorism'.  Oh, and now, their Christian fundamentalist faiths have been Judaised.  I was confronted with that reality just last week in my small town and it's a damn good thing I studied and retained much of my Christian philosophy, although, I no longer patronize any church, or, religious organization.

what are you doing in your personal life to stop the jewish/zionist/NWO?

Whenever an opportunity arises to speak the truth I jump on it, but in a guarded manner.  I do not wish to scare the sheeple away either.    Five years ago I was financially forced to file bankruptcy after my divorce, which thankfully, removed me from the credit card racket.  Now, I pay cash for everything, which technically, is all that the criminal bankers allow me to do, anyway.  I watch little to no television during any given week.  I'm also taking an inventory of the kitchen cupboards to determine what products we buy that are under the unlawful, unconstitutional "kosher" tax.  :headbang: (That peeves the hell out of me!!!)  Once the products are used they will not be resupplied in this household!  Since there seems to be a jewish owned company or corporation around every corner and under every rug I do quite a bit of research.  I am also creating a few of my own products for personal use, which means I don't have to buy the jewish version.  Finally, I run two blogs, one for non-mainstream media news and the second is a personal journal of my thoughts as a witness to America's transformation .

[kolnidre]

I'm in 8th grade, so obviously I'm somewhat limited in what I can do from a day-to-day basis.

The first time I saw you make a reference to 8th grade I puzzled over it for a little while and ended up presuming you were teaching eighth grade!

I haven't even found college students to be interested in, for lack of a better term, "the truth," so to encounter you is a pleasant surprise. As younger people will either change the direction of society or seal the deal for the Kabbalistic NWO, I am intensely interested in their makeup; that is, what they are experiencing, thinking (if at all), doing, and how they are being shaped or taking control of their own direction. Any insights or shared experiences you have would be especially welcome.

Not to hijack this thread. The new girl asked a lot of questions deserving of comment. Personally, I feel obligated to share what I have discovered with others, for silence is taken as consent by these monsters. The challenge comes in communicating in such a way that you show others what they are capable of seeing and tell them what they are equipped to hear. For instance, Building 7 doesn't always work, but the endless war on our freedom just might.

[girlyoudontknow2]

whitewraithe, well, fortunately I enjoy ballsy truth (is there any other kind?) and can't stand b.s. so you haven't scared me away yet.  

As to "real life friends," well, mine are dwindling fast.  Right or wrong, if they can't "get it," our friendship tends to die.  I don't have time for that.  But, I continue to make attempts with people who seem a bit openminded.  I don't watch much TV either.  Honestly, occasionally I turn it on to see what they are telling us to think about/believe.  See what the sheeple are going to be doing/saying/thinking.  I find that since I have almost completely given up TV and have become aware of the truth, I can barely even have a conversation with anyone who isn't awake.  We just have nothing to say to one another.  Kind of strange really.  

The churches are judaised.  True and sad.  But of course.  They infiltrate everything.

I have found that the Kosher label seems to be on all of the stuff that I buy that is organic.  I don't want to give up eating healthier.  It is a bit of a dilemma until I get more self sufficient.  (I have learned to make soap, which is actually fun.)  When I can, I buy from a little arab market in town that carries hallal.  I also love farmer's markets.  And I buy my meat from a local rancher, all grass fed, though eventually I will go veg.

[girlyoudontknow2]

kolnidre, don't worry about hijacking the thread at all.  I was totally stunned about arctic warfare being in eighth grade as well.  It is definitely something of interest.  Someone so young being both so aware and so interested.  

I agree too, that sometimes a smoking gun like WTC 7 doesn't work, but talking about the loss of our freedoms, and the encroaching police state might seem more real (or less frightening?) to them.

[kolnidre]

I find that since I have almost completely given up TV and have become aware of the truth, I can barely even have a conversation with anyone who isn't awake.  We just have nothing to say to one another.  Kind of strange really.  

I have found that the Kosher label seems to be on all of the stuff that I buy that is organic.  I don't want to give up eating healthier.

Oddly, I've found that although at first it was a bit lonely to stop engaging in small talk and inane commentary on celebrities and the latest fearmongering in the "news," I essentially minimized my exposure to such situations and became enriched as a result. But oddly, people seem to pick up on my refusal to countenance bullshit, and if they're intrigued or interested they now tend to seek me out. Of course, their degree of awakening and discernment varies, but it's a welcome challenge to communicate with them on a "channel" they can receive.

This experience parallels what I went through as a (former) vegetarian for 20 years. I never once proselytized for vegetarianism, because to me it began as a way to purify my body and not as a cause. I found that people would joke about my diet choices, try to tempt me, or probe me for reasons, and while they didn't always agree they respected my decision. Amazingly, several others around me eventually became vegetarians as well. So just by being firm in my convictions and consistent in my conduct I gained respect and acceptance; what others chose to do as a result was immaterial to me.

Lastly, think about kosher labeling as code saying "we didn't poison this stuff!" You can't feel guilty or complicit for refusing to consume poison.

[girlyoudontknow2]

kolnidre, yeah, I assume you are right about the kosher labelling, although it isn't beyond them to poison that as well.  When I buy bottled water, I feel a bit better drinking Pellegrino, as it is labelled Kosher for Passover, plus I just like the taste.  I have this strange feeling that this might just be worth my pennies going to their coffers.    When you think about it, the kosher tax is really minimal... the entire price of the bottle of water is going to them anyway.

[Hei Hu Quan]

Warm welcome lady, good to see women stepping to the fore here. I definitely want to encourage any women to join us in this dogged pursuit of Freedom, Truth and Justice as they are not just words around here. The strength of women is essential for balance, reason and indomitable power once it's asserted. Next show I'm going to put out the call to the women to woman-up and join us here in fighting these demonic bastards.

Please don't hesitate to contribute and speak up Girlyoudontknow2, it's good to have you aboard and your perspective is valuable.

Cheers and respect.

[girlyoudontknow2]

Thank you Hei Hu Quan, for your nice welcome.  I don't however, want to step on any toes.  I know men need to have their space that is for men only, just as women do, and there are other places/ways that I could share/communicate.  If this is in any way not cool, then I have no problem with that.... not that you have made me feel that way... I just kind of get that sense.  And that is fine.  It is like walking into a room and realizing, hey, there are only guys in here, so maybe I should leave them to their "guy stuff," so they can let it all hang out, or whatever.  I just don't want to make anyone here feel uncomfortable.

[Hei Hu Quan]

TIU is a fighting people's forum men AND women unified towards a common goal, we strongly foster everyone to develop their personal leadership inherent within themselves. We are not a secret society, 'men's group' or 'boy's network' like the enemy's Bohomo Grove... oops, I meant Bohemian Grove enclaves. We aim to realise the full potential of all our collective resources and make this a generation that fights these scum together. We will never be victorious without the full weight of the diverse and powerful masses uniting to fight this terror and fascism together. Speak your mind and council lass, I for one would like to hear your articulations when you feel raedy and comfortable enough to disseminate them.

[girlyoudontknow2]

Thanks again, Hei Hu Quan.  Perhaps I have been incorrect in my assumptions.  I just know that men have a way of talking to each other and that my presence here may put a damper on things.  Also, I want people to feel okay about calling me on my shit and not worry about hurting the girl's feelings.  But this is probably difficult for most guys, real men anyway.  I promise, though, that I wouldn't be here if I wasn't up for it.  I just want people here to treat me in the same way they would any other (male) poster.  I can take it and it won't be perceived as wimpy for "picking on a girl."

I enjoy chivalry, but this isn't the place for it.

[arctic.warfare]

Governor Fuckface... Wow, I laughed. WWIII really hit the nail on the head, here.

[girlyoudontknow2]

Yeah, I always enjoy WWIII's videos.  My favorite, or at least the one that made me laugh the most was the anti-anti-terrorist.

[arctic.warfare]

SHIT wrong topic. Sorry, I guess that's what happens when you abuse Firefox's tabs feature...

[girlyoudontknow2]

Ah, it's cool.  I just figured you wanted to share that with me, or something.

[arctic.warfare]

No, admittedly I tend to have ten-to-fifteen tabs open at once, I guess I was replying to both and forgot which one I was replying to.

My bad, sorry everyone.

[mastermg]

I thought I already replied to this thread before, I guess not.
Welcome girlyoudontknow2, a more diverse forum is best to spread information to all kinds of people.

[girlyoudontknow2]

Thanks mastermg, I agree.