CIA AGENT CHASING ISRAELI "SUITCASE NUKE" IN HOUSTON

Started by Ralph Furely, May 06, 2008, 12:19:04 PM

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Ralph Furely

got this story emailed to me today, they got it from myspace.  heres the 1st hit from google:

http://www.fourwinds10.com/siterun_data ... 1209752871

QuoteRADIATION DETECTORS WERE TRIPPING AS CHASE REACHED 122 MPH; HOUSTON COPS SHOT CIA AGENT; NUKE GOT AWAY

Federal sources close to this case have told me CIA Agent Roland Carnaby had proof a "suitcase nuke" had arrived inside the U.S. from Israel on Tuesday. He was chasing the device and the Israelis who had it.

As local law enforcement was called-in, for some unknown reason cops allegedly began chasing the CIA Agent instead of the Israelis and ultimately shot the CIA Agent dead!

Despite photographic proof that Roland Carnaby was inside CIA Headquaters in Langley, VA (shown above) the CIA is now publicly denying Roland Carnaby worked for them. A cover story is allegedly being fabricated to cover what really went on. Check back later . . . . . developing.

UPDATE 2329 HRS -- -- Federal sources have told me that they fear the detonation of a small nuclear device in or around Houston/Galveston, TX.

They say the old refineries there need to be modernized and expanded, but environmental regulations require companies clean up existing ground pollution before they will allow those refineries to be modernized.

The costs of such environmental clean-up would make new refineries too costly. HOWEVER. . . . . a "terrorist attack" in that region would destroy the refineries and simultaneously shift all the clean up costs to. . . . . . the taxpayer! Gee. How convenient for our Texas Oil Guy President, VP and all their rich Texas Oil Buddies!

SECOND UPDATE 0924 HRS 2 MAY 2008 - The CIA cover story apparently begins: ABC News is reporting (with video of the scene) that Roland Carnaby was, in fact, chased and shot dead by Houston Police. They confirm he presented credentials identifying him as being with the CIA. They report in the written story accompanying the video that Carnaby was shot while handcuffed and laying face down on the ground. Once again, CIA is disavowing the guy despite photographic proof (above) that he was, in fact, inside the CIA HQ in Langley, VA.

ABC News "Story" Here

UPDATE 0942 HRS -- Houston Chronicle Newspaper Reports: Agent Roland Carnaby called FBI and Houston PD on his cell phone during high speed chase to identify himself! Here


quite the story.  will we hear much about it on the 'news'?

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Hei Hu Quan

That is a heavy new lead. Attention TIU members, we need as much raw info on this as possible. This is a HOT story and I'd like to see if we can further validate it here with our collective investigators, researchers and detectives. Run down any leads on this and post them here, we could have an exclusive if we break this out more and add evidence that goes somewhere. Let's fire up the initiative and make a proper name for ourselves.

Cheers and respect.
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Ognir

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MikeWB

Holy crap! I hope this is fake :( If it's real, there goes a US city and here comes the marshal law and police state :(
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Hei Hu Quan

Full legwork credit goes to Ralph Furley on this, I'm just pushing for some serious evidence gathering on this one. Time for TIU members to put their money where their mouth is.
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sullivan

MSM coverage of the shooting

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[youtube:27t0d64y]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_sDeb0ApVw[/youtube]27t0d64y]

To be honest, I have serious doubts about this one.
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Hei Hu Quan

To be fair, I do too which is why I put out the call for more evidence and leads. If it builds to a good case fine, if not then we exposed disinfo (NOT from you Ralph, but from the source this piece originated).
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arctic.warfare

Holy shit, this is interesting, if it can be proven. Yet more proof that it was the Zionists, not the Americans, that won the west.
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LatinAmericanview

Tuesday, February 12, 2008
Premel's Intel Chief Retires

Following the first series of interviews Alan Premel gave with Channel 1 in Moscow, the first series was posted online last week and i have already seen two other additional stories which tie in with Premel and his dealings with the private firm in Houston. This is one and let me find the other.

One of the CIA's former counter-terrorism chiefs and pioneers in covert operations, Roland Carnaby retires.
In the past few months, Mr. Carnaby, who has led a private intelligence firm in Houston, Texas has been delegating more and moredaily responsibilities to his lietenants and is completing his succession planning, say people familiar with the matter. A decision about his departure could come within weeks, though the situation remains fluid, say these people.
Alan Premel, 32 years old, whom CIA recruited in 1997 and whom Carnaby personally recruited in 2002 to work with the private intelligence firm in Houston has emerged as the leading candidate to succeed him, added these people. A spokesperson familiar with the retirement plans stated that Premel and his current worries with the US Senate over allegations and ties to the CIA's Rendition program and his recent resignation from CIA amid a slew of disclosure cases pulls him out of the race for President and chief of such a power position within the intelligence community.
The departure of Mr. Carnaby, 52, would mean the loss of CIA's most experienced, talented and high profile clandestine officers in management. Few executives who helped pioneer the commercialization of private intelligence and private security firms have remained on top for as long, except for some who can also claim founder titles, such as Patriot Oil, and Pan-American Shipping and Consulting Group.
Mr. Carnaby's retirement would come at a critical point for CIA. Any efforts to reveerse the slow-down at his private firm could involve drastic changes that may be more palatable under a new CEO like Premel. Mr. Premel, at CIA, was very instrumental in many changes at CIA as a successful supervisor in the Balkans. His management experience at CIA is 25 years behind Carnaby's but with the firm already warning investors in recent months that it will be raising fees in the absence of Mr. Carnaby.
Mr. Premel wrestled with how to reverse the declining momentum before having to exit left stage last summer from the firm after his public disclosure. The firm's third quarter numbers, a key barometer of the firm's health fell 63% without Premel. Before leaving he implemented some changes that were never fully set into motion causing the down-turn after his sudden departure.
The timing of Mr. Carnaby's retirement is of his own choosing, say people familiar with the situation, unlike Premel's pre-mature departure which came 20-years too soon say experts. Not long after he jonied CIA, Roland Carnaby declared that no one person should stay in the same cover in covert operations more than two years. A standard practice used by the firm. This philosophy has accredited the firm with a lot of success claims Mr. Premel in his interview with CNN's David Ensor late of last year.
Under James Pavitt and Roland Carnaby, the firm has become the intelligence community's most successful private consulting business on counter-terrorism, security consulting and intelligence gathering where they pioneered a way for private officers to carry out day to day functions in the field, relay them back to CIA, DoD, DIA or other foreign agencies. In 2004, Mr. Premel streamlined a way for collecting, compliling and disseminating vast amounts of data and breaking it down by himself. The process which is only done by one person, Mr. Premel himself is the work of what 7-9 officers would typically do.
When Carnaby and Premel shared the reigns from 2004-2007, they have delivered more than 10 consecutive quarters of sequential revenue growth. Profit increase every year and the company now has 248 licensed contract officers working for the firm globally, and $297 million in classified contracts over 5 continents. Those figures are up from the firms $18 million in 1997.
To maintain momentum, Mr. Premel, using $40 million from a settlement with CIA, purchased a private lending company in Houston as well as acquiring a private shipping business and a private internet ticketing business.
There were missteps: Last year, the firm took a $80.4 million write-down for its purchase of a private airline business in DC, Houston and Vegas. And threats loomed when recruitment of some of the firm's top and most talented officer's. To keep top talent, Mr. Carnaby and Mr. Premel kicked in an extra $2.4 million for salaries and bonuses to keep the firm afloat.
Mr. Carnaby has long planned for his eventual exit, say people familiar with the matter. He often rotated top officer's into different operational roles as a way to groom potential successors and to give the board a slate of candidates from which to choose.

In his departing emails to friends, firm and CIA colleagues, Mr. Carnaby wrote how much he was pleased by the professionalism and careers of each and all of the persons who have served under him and with him during his 32-year tenure in the US Intelligence Community.
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Former FBI Agent: I Knew Chase Suspect By Different Name
Last Edited: Thursday, 01 May 2008, 10:47 PM CDT
Created: Thursday, 01 May 2008, 4:25 PM CDT
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HOUSTON  --  Roland Carnaby claimed to work for the CIA. But the suspect who police shot at the end of a citywide car chase Tuesday was known by a different name to the former agent in charge of the Houston FBI.
 
"I only knew him as Tony," said Don Clark, FOX 26's security and law enforcement analyst and former FBI agent. "I had no idea what his name may have been or was. The name that was in the newspaper, I had never seen that name before."

Carnaby, 52, was pulled over Tuesday morning for speeding and then led police on a chase when the officer discovered he possessed a concealed weapon license. His death was ruled a homicide Thursday afternoon after medical examiner's officials determined he died from a gunshot wound to the torso.

Investigators and FBI and CIA officials have said they could not trace Carnaby's connection to either agency, but family members said Carnaby had awards, pictures and books signed with several officials, including former CIA Director George Tenet and former Secretary of State James Baker. But Clark says he thought Carnaby was too talkative for an intelligence agent.

"People who are involved in those types of activities are very closed mouth," Clark said.

Federal credentials also were found inside the SUV, but police say the CIA is sending someone to Houston to examine Carnaby's alleged Agency credentials.

"If the person was portraying to be something that he wasn't, I think they have a responsibility to see if there's been any damage that's been done," Clark said.

Carnaby was the president of the Association For Intelligence Officers, a non-profit organization for current or former intelligence professionals and supporters of the intelligence community. Organization officials posted a note on their Web site Thursday, extending their sympathy to family and friends "over his untimely and inexplicable death."

"A man gifted with remarkable people skills and charm, Roland called upon his wide range of contacts -- particularly those in the Houston and Federal law enforcement communities -- to support an impressive speaker series and other local activities in the Houston chapter he reactivated a few years ago," the Web site states. "Mr. Carnaby underscores the achievements and energy associate members bring to the association to assist in the educational mission of AFIO."

Officers shot at Carnaby as he exited his vehicle because they thought he was reaching for a gun. A thorough investigation of his vehicle after the chase revealed Carnaby had two pistols and a shotgun, and one of the weapons was within his reach.

"One of the officers, on the passenger side, saw the suspect reach down and make an obvious and overt movement underneath the seat. Fearing for his safety, he fired the weapon one time," HPD Sgt. John Chomiak said.

But Randall Kallinen, an attorney representing Carnaby's wife of 11 years, said his death should have never occurred.

"The police did not follow procedure," Kallinen said. "They escalated the situation and then two individuals, two police officers, shot an individual who was unarmed."

Houston police are still investigating the case.
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LatinAmericanview

May 2, 2008, 12:50AM
In his final moments, Carnaby made calls to FBI, HPD as he fled

By LINDSAY WISE and DALE LEZON
Copyright 2008 Houston Chronicle
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Looking at Roland Carnaby's mementos

The patrol officer who stopped Roland Carnaby for speeding Tuesday morning was about to detain him as a possible CIA agent impersonator when he took off in his SUV, Houston police said Thursday.

Two days after officers shot Carnaby to death at the conclusion of a high-speed chase, more details emerged about the bizarre chain of events, including phone calls Carnaby made after he was pulled over.

First Carnaby called an acquaintance in Houston Police Department's internal affairs division, trying to get someone to vouch for him to the patrolman. Later, as he raced away from pursuing officers at speeds up to 120 mph, the man who had for years projected the persona of a federal intelligence officer apparently called a contact he knew in the FBI.

Carnaby initially had thought that by showing an ID card bearing the seal of the Central Intelligence Agency he could be on his way. But the officer who stopped him along Texas 288 near West Orem, already suspicious because of Carnaby's nervous behavior, did not recognize the ID card and told Carnaby he would check it out, HPD homicide Capt. Steve Jett said.

"The officer went back and checked the guy, and when he checked the license, the handgun permit came up and he was like, 'Why does a federal agent need a concealed handgun permit?' " Jett said.

Increasingly suspicious, the officer asked Carnaby for proof of his connection with the CIA.

"He asked him questions like who's your supervisor? Do you have a contact number you can call and verify? And the answers weren't very good," Jett said.

That was when Carnaby called someone he knew at HPD's internal affairs division. The officer asked the acquaintance if Carnaby really worked for the CIA.

"The answer was 'possibly yes,' " Jett said. "But the officer was obviously not inclined to just let him go. He was being very thorough and probably was going to write him a ticket, if not put him in jail for something, probably for not presenting a concealed handgun permit when he was stopped."

State law requires holders of concealed carry permits to present them when stopped by police if they have weapons in the car.

Doubts about Carnaby's true identity were compounded by conflicting information, Jett said. The officer also had contacted HPD's criminal intelligence and major offenders divisions to ask them to check Carnaby's credentials, he said.

"They told him 'No, we think he's a fraud,' " Jett said. "Something apparently triggered on his name, but again nobody was sure. Nobody's still sure. They'd heard his name before and they thought no, he's not (CIA)."

The officer was told to "find something to arrest him on; you can't arrest him for speeding," Jett said.

Carnaby had not shown his concealed weapon permit, which was sufficient violation to hold him. But when he was asked to step out of his SUV, Carnaby sped away, Jett said.

As HPD patrol cars began their pursuit, Carnaby called a friend on his cell phone. The friend, described by Jett as "possible FBI," urged Carnaby to pull over and obey police.

HPD investigators are still trying to get in touch with the friend to talk to him, Jett said. Local FBI spokeswoman Shauna Dunlap declined to comment, saying it is inappropriate for the FBI to discuss an ongoing HPD investigation.

Autopsy video refused
Carnaby's lawyer, Kenneth Brooten, said the fatal shooting, which occurred after Carnaby exited his car at the end of the chase, did not appear necessary.

"All of this has a smell factor," Brooten said. "What was the justification for the use of deadly force? Was this man a felon that was fleeing the scene of an armed robbery? Had he pulled a gun on them previously? That's a public policy issue. That affects every person who drives around Houston or lives there."

Brooten said he sent a letter to the Harris County Medical Examiner's office asking that Carnaby's autopsy be videotaped, but county attorney Barbara Callistien wrote him back to say HCME does not videotape autopsies.

Brooten also wants the Texas Rangers to examine the case and the FBI to look at whether evidence has been tampered with.

A former chief counsel of the U.S. House Select Committee on Assassinations, Brooten met Carnaby several years ago and served as an attorney for the Houston branch of the Association of Former Intelligence Officers, which Carnaby headed. He said he attended an annual symposium for the AFIO at the CIA headquarters at Langley with Carnaby, who seemed well-known there, albeit under the pseudonym of "Tony."

"I recall people coming out recognizing him, 'Hey Tony, how are you?' This is what I saw. Did I know those people personally? No. Was I introduced by Tony? Yes."

One of Carnaby's most obvious signs of legitimacy came through the AFIO. Carnaby had led the revival of a dormant Houston chapter, which periodically hosted banquets that featured speakers well known in the intelligence community and were well attended by local law enforcement officials.

The executive director of the AFIO, Elizabeth Bancroft, said she met Carnaby several years ago at the group's functions held near McLean, Va.

The organization, which is open to U.S. citizens, holds an annual symposium and monthly luncheons.

Bancroft said Carnaby never mentioned being a former CIA employee, and the stories about his connection to the agency shocked her. "Is this genuine or is this a very overactive fantasy life?" she said.

Carnaby was a very eager, enthusiastic AFIO member, Bancroft said. When she told him that the group's Houston chapter had been inactive for years, he volunteered to get it going again.

She said he was an excellent organizer and boosted chapter membership to about 200 members. He also had extensive contacts with law enforcement, which helped him book speakers for the chapter's meetings.

HPD defends officers
Carnaby asked the national headquarters if he could name the Houston chapter after CIA agent William Francis Buckley, who was kidnapped, tortured and killed in Lebanon in 1985.

"He talked about Buckley, how much he admired him and the bravery it must have taken to endure that type of torture that ends your life," she said.

For a person who was so supportive of law enforcement, Carnaby's final agony angers lawyer Brooten, who criticized the officers present for handcuffing him instead of administering medical care.

"All of this other stuff (about Carnaby's mysterious life) is all very interesting, but it is of no consequence when you consider a man is dead and he died handcuffed and nobody tried to stop the bleeding or anything," Brooten said. "You know what you call that? You call that an assassination."

Jett defended the officers at the scene, saying they are not trained to assist people with serious gunshot wounds.

"We would handcuff people and try to get them comfortable, but we're not paramedics, and most officers don't know about giving first aid like that other than CPR, and you don't want to give CPR to a gunshot victim," he said.

Investigators later found three weapons in Carnaby's car, police said. One pistol was under the passenger-side floormat. A second was between the seats. On the back seat floorboard lay a pistol-grip shotgun with a round in the chamber and the safety off.

Brooten said he has no idea why his friend and client ran from police, but he has a difficult time believing HPD's account.

"Maybe he thought he was being set up. That's speculation only," he said. "The answer is no, I don't know. But there are multiple reasons why an experienced professional would feel threatened. And given the actions after the shooting, maybe his instinct was correct."

CIA repeats its denial
The CIA on Thursday reiterated its denial that Carnaby had any connection with the intelligence agency.

"This individual was not a CIA officer, and I have seen no indication whatsoever that he had a contract with the CIA," said agency spokesman George Little.

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LatinAmericanview

Just for the record- Hal Turner is useless. Turner is like the Alex Jones of the White Supremacists. Suite case nukes? Doubtful. Assassination? Yes! But why?
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Ralph Furely

thats a great little piece above there.  lots of juicy little comments throughout.  
this is a pretty fucking interesting little situation we have here.

Ralph Furely

this comment is in one of those MSM visds on utube:

According to Wayne Madsen:
Roland was investigating:
"one of the people he was looking at was Abramhoff and the casino boats"
"and you had two of those hijackers on his casino boat a few days before 9/11"


thats some interesting shit.  Bollyn used to talk about this Abramhoff, Eric too i believe.  lots of shit goin on with that slimeball.

LatinAmericanview

Quote from: "Ralph Furely"this comment is in one of those MSM visds on utube:

According to Wayne Madsen:
Roland was investigating:
"one of the people he was looking at was Abramhoff and the casino boats"
"and you had two of those hijackers on his casino boat a few days before 9/11"
.
The above quote remains me of
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MikeWB

Guys, I've been tracking this as well and have found a ton of links that everyone should check out. I'm not gonna post all of the articles here (too many) so follow the links and SAVE everything for posterity.

Start from the top:

WTC connections!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://genedios.livejournal.com/3427.html

http://genedios.livejournal.com/2838.html

http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:n5 ... d=16&gl=us

Tons of info here:

http://cryptogon.com/?p=2516
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Ralph Furely

wow, lots of good info there for sure.  good work man.

Hei Hu Quan

Mike is one of the best info hunters we have. Set him on a lead and you are always rewarded beyond what you expect. Nice work as always Mike.
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suitcase bombs seem like an old hat of the terrorists.