Another patriot blogger talk show host turns on AJ

[maz]

Dude this guy nailed Alex and his followers on his money bomb con.

InfoWarrior Cultists Disapprove Of Alex Jones Money Bomb Criticism

http://www.roguegovernment.com/InfoWarr ... 3/Y/M.html

Editor's Note: Looks as if the InfoWars camp decided to delete the MySpace bulletin following the publication of this article. Probably because the bulletin consisted of lies and misrepresentations.

Apparently the InfoWars camp did not appreciate my criticisms of the Alex Jones money bomb.   The official Alex Jones MySpace page issued the following statement in response to my article. Here is the MySpace bulletin posted in its entirety.

A supposed NWO fighter lashes out at Alex

http://www.roguegovernment.com/Boycott_ ... 3/Y/M.html

In the article, Lee makes references to the very few times that Alex has been wrong... when the majority of Jones' statements have been prophetic and right on the money. In addition, he faults us for trying to build a studio to reach a wider audience. Why wouldn't we do this? The last money bomb saw so many improvements here and almost doubled our efforts in the fight for freedom. Finally, he calls into question Alex's coverage of the swine flu. Jones called it a hoax and stopped coverage sooner than any other news agency.

This is an obvious ploy to fracture our audience in order to grow his own show (which is advertised in the slam). He is obviously jealous that he doesn't have an audience that will donate their hard earned money. We have to stop fighting one another and put our focus on the real problems facing our society... namely the globalization of our government and the anesthetization of the people.

Let this guy know that you aren't swayed by his puerile tactics and that he should help the movement and not try to implode it.

First off, my criticism of the Alex Jones Y2K and swine flu coverage is not focused on him being right or wrong. That is not relevant because nobody is perfect and anyone can make a mistake. It is based on the fact that he was clearly attempting to scare his listening audience into believing a false reality during his coverage of both events. It is painfully obvious that he wanted to get people so excited that somebody would do something stupid resulting in any number of bad scenarios. The use of fear is a tactic used by the mainstream corporate media in pushing the New World Order agenda and Jones has proven time and time again that he uses this same tactic on his audience. One only needs to listen to the commercials he used to air in which he claimed that if people didn't buy enough of his DVD films that the government was going to stage more terror attacks and bring in martial law.  

Secondly, how has their new studio resulted in them reaching a wider audience? The only thing it has resulted in is additional video material for their for profit run pay per view Prison Planet TV web site and the DVDs that they sell. It might be great for Prison Planet TV members, but not great for reaching more people.

They also call the statements Jones has made as prophetic as if he is some sort of modern day info-prophet. Anybody with half a brain who consistently analyzes the news, reads documents, books and other material will come to the same conclusions that Jones has. To call his statements prophetic is ridiculous. This is especially true when you consider that the late Bill Cooper predicted the 9/11 false flag attack scenario prior to Alex Jones. Jones simply took Cooper's material for himself and when Cooper was no longer alive it allowed him to falsely take the title of being the so-called grandfather figure of the 9/11 truth movement. This appears to explain why Jones has consistently tried to demonize Cooper on his radio broadcasts despite the fact that Cooper has now been dead for almost 8-years now.

The bulletin also fails to provide any real answers as to why Jones has consistently brought on members of the Council for National Policy on to his show and sold them to the listening audience as credible experts. It also fails to counter any of the information I brought up about his guests and his bizarre actions all of which can be independently verified as factual. This is probably because they have no good answer to the main questions that my article raises.

They also lie and claim that I used the article to promote my radio show which is not true. I did not promote my radio show or any other radio shows on the Oracle Broadcasting Network anywhere in that article.

Apparently if you ask questions and criticize the information and alternative media god Alex Jones you are automatically considered a jealous, disinformation agent trying to divide the controlled opposition of the phony patriot movement. I do agree that we need to focus on problems with our society and one of the major problems we have is the fact that there are too many people that don't think for themselves and let somebody else do the thinking for them. If we had more independent thinkers instead of people who blindly follow cult of personality leaders like 99% of the InfoWarrior cultists do we wouldn't be in such a horrible situation.  One only needs to read the comments posted in response to the Alex Jones MySpace bulletin to see how obvious it is that there are a sizable number of InfoWarriors who lack critical thinking skills.  

[Yo Mama]

Some of this guy's criticisms of Fatboy are valid, but Oracle Broadcasting is one of those idiotic "Jesuit/Black Pope" groups.  They're just another Jewish front operation.  I'm really getting sick and tired of all these Jewish front groups.  Do these clowns really think that they're fooling anybody?   :roll:

[CrackSmokeRepublican]

Good to see intelligence and reason triumph over B.S. Jonestein "Black Pope" Poop shillery!

Like let's take a survey:  Is Alex B.S. Jonestein the infamous "Black Pope"?

1 for Yes... and bless the Patriotards for they know not that they have profaned!

[Rockclimber]

Dude this guy nailed Alex and his followers on his money bomb con.

InfoWarrior Cultists Disapprove Of Alex Jones Money Bomb Criticism

http://www.roguegovernment.com/InfoWarr ... 3/Y/M.html

Editor's Note: Looks as if the InfoWars camp decided to delete the MySpace bulletin following the publication of this article. Probably because the bulletin consisted of lies and misrepresentations.

Apparently the InfoWars camp did not appreciate my criticisms of the Alex Jones money bomb.   The official Alex Jones MySpace page issued the following statement in response to my article. Here is the MySpace bulletin posted in its entirety.

A supposed NWO fighter lashes out at Alex

http://www.roguegovernment.com/Boycott_ ... 3/Y/M.html

In the article, Lee makes references to the very few times that Alex has been wrong... when the majority of Jones' statements have been prophetic and right on the money. In addition, he faults us for trying to build a studio to reach a wider audience. Why wouldn't we do this? The last money bomb saw so many improvements here and almost doubled our efforts in the fight for freedom. Finally, he calls into question Alex's coverage of the swine flu. Jones called it a hoax and stopped coverage sooner than any other news agency.

This is an obvious ploy to fracture our audience in order to grow his own show (which is advertised in the slam). He is obviously jealous that he doesn't have an audience that will donate their hard earned money. We have to stop fighting one another and put our focus on the real problems facing our society... namely the globalization of our government and the anesthetization of the people.

Let this guy know that you aren't swayed by his puerile tactics and that he should help the movement and not try to implode it.

First off, my criticism of the Alex Jones Y2K and swine flu coverage is not focused on him being right or wrong. That is not relevant because nobody is perfect and anyone can make a mistake. It is based on the fact that he was clearly attempting to scare his listening audience into believing a false reality during his coverage of both events. It is painfully obvious that he wanted to get people so excited that somebody would do something stupid resulting in any number of bad scenarios. The use of fear is a tactic used by the mainstream corporate media in pushing the New World Order agenda and Jones has proven time and time again that he uses this same tactic on his audience. One only needs to listen to the commercials he used to air in which he claimed that if people didn't buy enough of his DVD films that the government was going to stage more terror attacks and bring in martial law.  

Secondly, how has their new studio resulted in them reaching a wider audience? The only thing it has resulted in is additional video material for their for profit run pay per view Prison Planet TV web site and the DVDs that they sell. It might be great for Prison Planet TV members, but not great for reaching more people.

They also call the statements Jones has made as prophetic as if he is some sort of modern day info-prophet. Anybody with half a brain who consistently analyzes the news, reads documents, books and other material will come to the same conclusions that Jones has. To call his statements prophetic is ridiculous. This is especially true when you consider that the late Bill Cooper predicted the 9/11 false flag attack scenario prior to Alex Jones. Jones simply took Cooper's material for himself and when Cooper was no longer alive it allowed him to falsely take the title of being the so-called grandfather figure of the 9/11 truth movement. This appears to explain why Jones has consistently tried to demonize Cooper on his radio broadcasts despite the fact that Cooper has now been dead for almost 8-years now.

The bulletin also fails to provide any real answers as to why Jones has consistently brought on members of the Council for National Policy on to his show and sold them to the listening audience as credible experts. It also fails to counter any of the information I brought up about his guests and his bizarre actions all of which can be independently verified as factual. This is probably because they have no good answer to the main questions that my article raises.

They also lie and claim that I used the article to promote my radio show which is not true. I did not promote my radio show or any other radio shows on the Oracle Broadcasting Network anywhere in that article.

Apparently if you ask questions and criticize the information and alternative media god Alex Jones you are automatically considered a jealous, disinformation agent trying to divide the controlled opposition of the phony patriot movement. I do agree that we need to focus on problems with our society and one of the major problems we have is the fact that there are too many people that don't think for themselves and let somebody else do the thinking for them. If we had more independent thinkers instead of people who blindly follow cult of personality leaders like 99% of the InfoWarrior cultists do we wouldn't be in such a horrible situation.  One only needs to read the comments posted in response to the Alex Jones MySpace bulletin to see how obvious it is that there are a sizable number of InfoWarriors who lack critical thinking skills.  

Everyone of this man's complaints were 100% legitimate--from Y2K, (total agent provocateur) to Cooper (predicted 9-11, not Jones) and swine flu (I listened, Jones was whipping it up for profit). That's what scares Jonestein and Jones-town (followers)--legitimate criticism.


This is their usual MO towards anyone that has a legitimate complain towards AJ and his kool-aid drinking, Jones-town fanatics and groupies:

The 'attacker' is jealous
The 'attacker' is 'puerile
Jones is practically a god, how dare you insult him? (in reference to the "few times he was wrong")
If you challenge their god, you will be insulted and called names like "cointel pro" "fed" "jew-hater" "kooks" "nobodies" etc.,

When I say groupies and lemmings I do mean it. I challenge anyone just once to spend an hour at his forum or at his reader comments section. You will be shocked to witness the non-thinking cult following he has and you will realize I am not making this up. It's downright scary to be honest to know that people are so star-struck and weak.

Jones money-bomb was about maintaining his glamorous studio and lifestyle by gouging well-meaning but naive listeners, all to keep his gatekeeping zio-scam going.

Btw, I was only 1/2 through reading the article when I typed this and found I was writing nearly the same things he (the Jonestein critic) was and most here feel the same way about zio jones.

Also...I made several comments on the moneybomb youtube videos and I was saddened by how in such hard times that Jonestein would ask his listeners to cough up their hard earned money. It's pathetic. And even worse when you watch the vids you see how glamorous his studio is and just know it's more than enough. But greed has no bounds, nor do shabbas goy who learn from their masters.

and btw...I will never pass up an opportunity to take a jab at this scam artist, fear-mongering, shabbas goy. It's not about jeaulousy or hate or anything like that. I just beleive the man is a HUGE deceiver and needs to be exposed - Berman too.

[Rockclimber]

Some of this guy's criticisms of Fatboy are valid, but Oracle Broadcasting is one of those idiotic "Jesuit/Black Pope" groups.  They're just another Jewish front operation.  I'm really getting sick and tired of all these Jewish front groups.  Do these clowns really think that they're fooling anybody?   :roll:

Thanks Yo Mama, I didn't know that. Black poopers are nutts. And eat shit EJP, blood diamond bitch!

So who is the attacker anyway?

[maz]

Some of this guy's criticisms of Fatboy are valid, but Oracle Broadcasting is one of those idiotic "Jesuit/Black Pope" groups.  They're just another Jewish front operation.  I'm really getting sick and tired of all these Jewish front groups.  Do these clowns really think that they're fooling anybody?   :roll:

He used to be on RBN after Piper but I thought his show was sort of weak. He was fairly strong on economics, weak on exposing Zionism, but to his credit, I never heard him mention any black pope bs on his RBN show or on his blog and his blog has broke some good police state stuff in the past. I haven't listened to his show on Oracle I mostly just grab the Rogue Government newswire so can't I accuse him of any black popery stuff.

I admit I frequent the PP forum sometimes and some poster on the old WUFYS tried to "out me" as an "AJ propagandists" because I posted the same thing at WUFYU as I did in the PP member journalism, but I mainly go there to help spread information. Those "patriotards" need an education just as much as the oblivious mainstream people who don't know anything, so I can't throw the baby out with the bathwater.

Also more and more people are coming around too. I think I may have woken up a forum member who has just been aware for about six months. She is an admitted Christian Zionist and full on Israel supporter and listener of all the mainstream talkers. She mentioned Joel Rosenberg one day so I told her that IMO I thought he could be Mossad, but at the very least he was a warmonger and a Judas goat. I slipped in Rothschild timeline into one of her threads. She also watched my video and agreed with what I was saying in it and now she's posting in all my threads about Israel. So long story short that's why I go there.

[CrackSmokeRepublican]

Peter Schaenk once pointed out that the "Black Popers" have been going full bore since the 1970s.  He sees Jones as a Johnny-come-lately that could make a buck off of Cable-to-Amateur radio broadcasting reform. Jones is no different than the agent Rush Limbaugh. Same kind of setup and same kind of mis-direction scams year over year.
It's all pretty pathetic when you look at the Fruits of their manipulative works.  Endless ranting on the non-events to captivate the "goyim" mind-share.

I really think a lot of people will have to find themselves literally "begging in the streets"  before they stop listening to CNN, Jones, and Rush Limbaugh.  

It's not beyond the realm of possibility at this point.  The wake up always occurs with thoughts about "their Children's future".  
Every scam comes to and end eventually.

[Rockclimber]

Some of this guy's criticisms of Fatboy are valid, but Oracle Broadcasting is one of those idiotic "Jesuit/Black Pope" groups.  They're just another Jewish front operation.  I'm really getting sick and tired of all these Jewish front groups.  Do these clowns really think that they're fooling anybody?   :roll:

He used to be on RBN after Piper but I thought his show was sort of weak. He was fairly strong on economics, weak on exposing Zionism, but to his credit, I never heard him mention any black pope bs on his RBN show or on his blog and his blog has broke some good police state stuff in the past. I haven't listened to his show on Oracle I mostly just grab the Rogue Government newswire so can't I accuse him of any black popery stuff.

I admit I frequent the PP forum sometimes and some poster on the old WUFYS tried to "out me" as an "AJ propagandists" because I posted the same thing at WUFYU as I did in the PP member journalism, but I mainly go there to help spread information. Those "patriotards" need an education just as much as the oblivious mainstream people who don't know anything, so I can't throw the baby out with the bathwater.

Also more and more people are coming around too. I think I may have woken up a forum member who has just been aware for about six months. She is an admitted Christian Zionist and full on Israel supporter and listener of all the mainstream talkers. She mentioned Joel Rosenberg one day so I told her that IMO I thought he could be Mossad, but at the very least he was a warmonger and a Judas goat. I slipped in Rothschild timeline into one of her threads. She also watched my video and agreed with what I was saying in it and now she's posting in all my threads about Israel. So long story short that's why I go there.

I post there too maz (at PP) from time to time but it's taxing...to my surprise though there are several people who I do consider awake.

On a funny note, a few people 'stalk' me when I post and I end up having to go toe to toe with the sayanim's and Jonestown groupies. The groupies are easier to handle but the serpent tongued sayanim give me a good fight. But like you I post there in hopes to wake a few up out of the Jonestown cult spell.

[Rockclimber]

Peter Schaenk once pointed out that the "Black Popers" have been going full bore since the 1970s.  He sees Jones as a Johnny-come-lately that could make a buck off of Cable-to-Amateur radio broadcasting reform. Jones is no different than the agent Rush Limbaugh. Same kind of setup and same kind of mis-direction scams year over year.
It's all pretty pathetic when you look at the Fruits of their manipulative works.  Endless ranting on the non-events to captivate the "goyim" mind-share.

I really think a lot of people will have to find themselves literally "begging in the streets"  before they stop listening to CNN, Jones, and Rush Limbaugh.  

It's not beyond the realm of possibility at this point.  The wake up always occurs with thoughts about "their Children's future".  
Every scam comes to and end eventually.

Shaenk definitely has Jones figured out and I always enjoyed his analysis of the PAYtriotards...

There are definitely a lot of addicts out there and I think most of us understand the appeal since many of us were one-time Jonestown followers. You think your being enlightened completely and finally everything makes sense. And you end up believing in your own mind that you own AJ a portion of gratitude and you even find yourself wanting to protect him. I understand his spell but when you realize that he is lying you wake up and when you discover the motive you want to let others know to stay clear of the guy.

People who still listen to Limbaugh I find are easy enough to 'wake-up' but it's a gradual process.

Well perhaps this latest moneybomb scam will be the last of his scams-that is if once and for all his followers finally see through it.

[Rockclimber]

Btw, very telling...I just visited infowars and they have raised just short of $275,000 so far.  This beats out last years $250K...

[CrackSmokeRepublican]

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Shaenk definitely has Jones figured out and I always enjoyed his analysis of the PAYtriotards...

There are definitely a lot of addicts out there and I think most of us understand the appeal since many of us were one-time Jonestown followers. You think your being enlightened completely and finally everything makes sense. And you end up believing in your own mind that you own AJ a portion of gratitude and you even find yourself wanting to protect him. I understand his spell but when you realize that he is lying you wake up and when you discover the motive you want to let others know to stay clear of the guy.

People who still listen to Limbaugh I find are easy enough to 'wake-up' but it's a gradual process.

Well perhaps this latest moneybomb scam will be the last of his scams-that is if once and for all his followers finally see through it.
Yeah I hear that RC.  I really enjoy Shaenks deconstruction of the "Patriotards" myself.  Quite enjoyable.  

That's the problem with Radio 590 AM in Austin, TX with Longhorn Football and AJ's rants.  It is difficult to call him out and loose all connection to his rants. I feel the same way about Jewish professors I've learned a few things from. While I liked the guys and learned new info from them in their classes, I can't look back on their lectures with the same non-judgement. Today, I see an innocent-mild corruption which sadly I literally paid for. I see it now as a deception or just parroting the Common Knowledge-Accepted Beliefs about events to keep one's job -- anyway it is still pathetic.  

It all comes full circle eventually.  AJ cannot burn every bridge and stay a "city on a hill". He will bow down like Paul on the Road to Damascus eventually.  It hasn't happened yet. But the literal "Truth" tends to strike hard once one finds it. AJ is definitely not an Apostle for the truth but a deceiver at this point.

If AJ would start to engage in addressing the "Jewish Question" in the USA... his mini-empire would crumble quickly. He is afraid of this and will "go Jewish" to protect his fiefdom by acting "Jewish" towards those threatening him (quibbling, insinuating, repeating ad naseum, child worthy dramas, ad hoc evidence, personal attacks if necessary), or even those in a position to threaten him. Allowing even a small breach would be too much. Keep it dumb and corny fun.

[Yo Mama]

This guy Lee Rogers is a Black Poper/Jesuit idiot.  Here is the proof:

http://www.roguegovernment.com/Boycott_ ... 3/Y/M.html

"He has also given credibility to John McManus the head of the John Birch Society a group that has consistently been lead by an individual with Jesuit affiliations. McManus recently appeared on the Alex Jones program which in of itself is suspicious. According to author Eustace Mullins the man who first blew the lid off the Federal Reserve conspiracy in the 1950s with his book Secrets of the Federal Reserve, the John Birch Society actually received funding from the Rockefeller family indicating that it is an obvious controlled opposition front. G Edward Griffin who relied heavily on Mullins work to write the book The Creature from Jekyll Island is closely affiliated with the John Birch Society and their New American publication. Griffin is a regular guest on the Alex Jones show and appears to have by design offered a more watered down version of Mullins work. Other regular guests include either Sovereign Military Order Of Malta members like Dr. Len Horowitz, so-called former and probably current intelligence operatives like Ray McGovern who was also educated at Fordham University a Jesuit run institution and borderline communists like Webster Tarpley who has previously held close ties with Lyndon Larouche a man who is a known Trotskyite."

 :roll:

[Yo Mama]

This guy Lee Rogers also repeatedly mentions Fatboy's connections to the Council on National Policy, which is completely irrelevant and inconsequential compared with Fatboy's Jewish Zionist connections, namely that his wife and kids and most of his advertizers are Jewish.

"Additionally, Jones consistently has individuals with ties to a group known as the Council for National Policy as regular guests on his program. The Council for National Policy is a secretive group founded in 1981 whose membership has received extensive funding from the Reverend Sun Myung Moon the head of the Unification Church a group that seeks to unify the world's religions into a one world religion.   People like Dick Cheney, George W. Bush, John McCain, Mitt Romney, Sarah Palin, John Aschcroft, Gary Bauer, Pat Robertson, Mike Huckabee, Bobby Jindal, Bill Kristol, Rick Santorum, Oliver North, Erik Prince, John Singlaub and many others who are entrenched in the establishment hierarchy have either spoken in front of this group or have direct affiliations with it. Guests that Jones has had on his show that have been linked to the Council for National Policy include people like Larry Pratt, Paul Craig Roberts, Jerome Corsi, Michael Coffman, Officer Jack McLamb, Stan Monteith and Charlotte Iserbyt. Jones has sold his audience on the idea that these people are credible experts and that is ridiculous considering these people's association with this group.
...
The question is, why would anyone who is legitimately fighting the New World Order have guests on their radio show that are affiliated with a group such as the Council for National Policy and other questionable groups? Specifically looking at the Council for National Policy, this group has several people linked to it who are actively promoting the New World Order agenda. It is impossible to give credibility to anyone who claims they are fighting global government to be part of a group that has such a large number of people that are clearly aiding in the creation of open one world government rule. It is no wonder why Jones has downplayed this group calling the Council for National Policy a Junior Council on Foreign Relations. This is not the case, but assuming Jones is correct for a second, why would Jones consistently have members of a group that he believes is a Junior Council on Foreign Relations group on his show? Especially when you consider that Jones has for years criticized the Council on Foreign Relations and how it ties in with the globalist agenda."

 :roll:

[Yo Mama]

Lee Roger's other criticisms of Fatboy, namely that he is a fear-mongering money-grubbing scam artist, are entirely valid, however.   8-)

[Yo Mama]

Peter Schaenk's critique of Fatboy and the Paytriotard broadcasters is devastating.  If any of you haven't heard Peter Schaenk's broadcasts about Fatboy and the Paytriotards, then I highly recommend you check them out.  Schaenk's critique is the standard by which all other Paytriotard critiques should be measured.  

[maz]

This guy Lee Rogers is a Black Poper/Jesuit idiot.  Here is the proof:

http://www.roguegovernment.com/Boycott_ ... 3/Y/M.html

"He has also given credibility to John McManus the head of the John Birch Society a group that has consistently been lead by an individual with Jesuit affiliations. McManus recently appeared on the Alex Jones program which in of itself is suspicious. According to author Eustace Mullins the man who first blew the lid off the Federal Reserve conspiracy in the 1950s with his book Secrets of the Federal Reserve, the John Birch Society actually received funding from the Rockefeller family indicating that it is an obvious controlled opposition front. G Edward Griffin who relied heavily on Mullins work to write the book The Creature from Jekyll Island is closely affiliated with the John Birch Society and their New American publication. Griffin is a regular guest on the Alex Jones show and appears to have by design offered a more watered down version of Mullins work. Other regular guests include either Sovereign Military Order Of Malta members like Dr. Len Horowitz, so-called former and probably current intelligence operatives like Ray McGovern who was also educated at Fordham University a Jesuit run institution and borderline communists like Webster Tarpley who has previously held close ties with Lyndon Larouche a man who is a known Trotskyite."

 :roll:

LOL what the fuck is he talking about?!? Thanks for that info. What's the deal on this Council on National Policy anyways?