DEFINE ZIONISM? your input is appreciated

[veritasvincit]

Before we can even consider the idea of an anti-zionist polictical party, we have to be very clear on the definition of zionism.  That is, everyone in this fight has to come to some concensus on the definition of zionism.  

Your input is appreciated...........................................................................

my definition is:
the ideology used by the international bankers to control and manipulate, at all costs to humanity, their control of the world through any means.  Since they control the majority of money, media, politicians and economics in the world, they are able to buy anyone they please therefore controlling countries and the world on a mass scale.  They have used Isreal and religion as a front for their grand scheme however, the jews in Isreal have been used as swine just like the goyim have been used.  Their book of faith is the "Protocols of Zion".  They want to replace God or a higher power.  This is their end result.

Here is jew-wikipedia's version:
Zionism is the international political movement that originally supported the reestablishment of a homeland for the Jewish People in Palestine. The area was the Jewish Biblical homeland, called the Land of Israel (Hebrew: Eretz Yisra'el). Since the creation of Israel, the Zionist movement continues primarily as support for the modern state of Israel

Zionism is based on the foundation of historical ties and religious traditions linking the Jewish people to the Land of Israel, where the concept of Jewish nationhood first evolved somewhere between 1200 BCE and the late Second Temple era (i.e. up to 70 CE).[2][3] Two millennia after the Jewish diaspora, the modern Zionist movement, beginning in the late 19th century, was mainly founded by secular Jews, largely as a response by European Jewry to antisemitism across Europe, especially in Russia.[4] The re-creation of a Jewish national homeland was also strongly advocated by American scholars, such as Louis Brandeis, as a solution to this "Jewish problem" and a way to "revive the Jewish spirit."[5]

It is a branch of the broader phenomenon of modern nationalism.[6] Initially one of several Jewish political movements offering alternative responses to assimilation and the position of Jews in Europe, Zionism grew rapidly and after the Holocaust became the dominant power among Jewish political movements.

The political movement was formally established by the Austro-Hungarian journalist Theodor Herzl in the late 19th century following the publication of his book Der Judenstaat.[7] The movement seeks to encourage Jewish migration to the "Land of Israel" and was eventually successful in establishing Israel in 1948, as the homeland for the Jewish people. Its proponents regard its aim as self-determination for the Jewish people.[8] The proportion of world Jewry living in Israel has steadily grown since the movement came into existence. Today roughly 40% of the world's Jews live in Israel. A similar number live in the United States (see American Jews).

Serendipity's definition:
Zionism represents itself as a political movement concerned principally with the establishment of a state in Palestine to be controlled by and for Jews. It began in the late 19th Century and attained its stated objective with the creation in 1948 of the state of Israel by the United Nations (at the insistence of the United States and without the agreement of existing Middle Eastern states). Subsequently Israel doubled the amount of territory it controlled by means of its illegal occupation of the West Bank in the 1967 and 1973 wars.
In its current form Zionism seeks to dominate all of Palestine and the Middle East by means of violence and the threat of violence (using weapons manufactured and purchased with billions of dollars of "aid" supplied by the United States at taxpayer expense) and to maximize its influence in world affairs and in world history, principally by means of control of the government of the USA (primarily by blackmailing its many corrupt politicians), at the expense of the social wellbeing not only of the Palestinians but of the peoples of all lands.

Gilad Atzmon's definition:
Zionism is ... racist, it is nationalist, and it is Biblically inspired (rather than spiritually inspired). Being a fundamentalist movement, Zionism is not categorically different from Nazism. Only when we understand Zionism in its nationalist and racist context will we begin to comprehend the depth of its atrocities. — Gilad Atzmon

[mastermg]

Zionism = Rascism
Simple and clear  

[Yo Mama]

Zionism is Jewish imperialism.

Zionism is the modern political manifestation of the ancient Jewish plan for world domination as outlined in the Torah - the Old Testament.

 8-)

[CrackSmokeRepublican]

I think Zionism is the realization of a Jewish State that has control over the world- politically, morally and economically according to the Talmud.  Zionism is intended to ruin all Secular and Sacred opposition to their rule. It involves the Secular inheritance of their "collective messiah" as rulers over the Kingdom. It is realized in Imperial and Intelligence Operations against "goyim".

[Yo Mama]

I think you mean, "according to the Torah".

 

[GordZilla]

I think you mean, "according to the Torah".

 

No he's right, it's 'according to the Talmud'.  The Torah has no plans for Jewish domination of the world ..... That'd be the Talmud, and not so distinctly, rather just excuses as to why the Jews should be above all and everyone, always.
The Old Testament does not make this claim.

And P.S. "Zionism" is a scape-goat, the problem is the Talmudic Jew - PERIOD. If we kill every Zionist on earth, I assure you we will NOT have rid ourselves of the problem, and it will appear again. It will create some more 'scape-goat organizations'  and continue its mission of destroying all that is good and decent.

Zionism , is yet another  'ism', a distraction at best. Your enemy has been at this a lot longer than 'Zionism' has been around.  Who cares to define it, focus on your REAL enemy; the Talmudic Jew and his servants.

[abduLMaria]

8-)

Who cares to define it, focus on your REAL enemy; the Talmudic Jew and his servants.

i think there's 2 definitions.  the classic definition, as described above, and the 'practical' version, that integrates material geo-political considerations like Saudi Arabia & Iraq having gigantic quantities of oil, which Israel's partners in crime (the Bush'es & Cheney's for instance) are dying to get their hands on (or, should i say, they're willing to kill everybody else so they can get their hands on it.

in other words, if Israel was in Eastern Siberia, there wouldn't be so much fighting.  "take the land, no problem".

but a good part of the reason the US cares about it is because of the oil.

so Zionism has become like a big crime gang that involves Israel, the US, Saudi Arabia, England.  speaking of "the Talmudic Jew and his servants."

so if i was going to make an attempt at a start of a definition, i would say that Zionism is a criminal organization that involves Israel and is used to create conflict in the mid-East so as to steal the oil and kill people they don't like, who happen to be mostly Muslim.

[Yo Mama]

The Torah has no plans for Jewish domination of the world.

Are you kidding?  The Torah(Old Testament) is nothing BUT a plan for Jewish domination of the world.   :shock:

Have you ever actually read the Old Testament?   :?

[GordZilla]

The Torah has no plans for Jewish domination of the world.

Are you kidding?  The Torah(Old Testament) is nothing BUT a plan for Jewish domination of the world.   :shock:

Have you ever actually read the Old Testament?   :?

Quote me something out of the Old Testiment, KJV, that says the Jews should Dominate the world? They were given a covenant with God, but they also broke it in the same book, therefore loosing the right of return till God Himself grants it. If you think the Torah is the source of evil, and the Talmud is a book of love you are sadly mistaken.

[Yo Mama]

Well, for one thing, in the Old Testament the Jewish tribal desert god Yahweh commands the Jews to take over the world through money-lending and usury.  Did you know that?  

[GordZilla]

Well, for one thing, in the Old Testament the Jewish tribal desert god Yahweh commands the Jews to take over the world through money-lending and usury.  Did you know that?  

Of course not , the word "Jew " does not appear in the old Testament - not the original writings as far back as Hebrew and Greek translations, as the word didn't exists, for one. Two; God is against usury (many passages) and 3 once again, no source from you ...just hot air..please quote me from the King James just where it says  that .... good luck.


So "no" i did not KNOW that , nor do I think you do.

"...for one thing .. "  

You have NOthing .    :lol:


Passage and verse please .... not just your opinion of what you think you know.