What do all of you TRULY believe about what is happening?

[LordLindsey]

Do any of you ever feel as though this whole world situation is just one big JOKE?  I am serious.  It is almost as if the entire human race is being tested, and WE ARE FAILING MISERABLY.  I know that I am not the only one who feels this way, and I can't quite put it into words how this feels, but I CAN say that if "I" can see so clearly the most important facts as they are, then why in the Hell can't the REST of the human race that is NOT a part of this evil?

I am not a religious guy, and I have said this openly and very often.  I am not necessarily implying that this is a spiritual REALITY; however, I WILL say that even people who will never say these truths publicly tell me that this entire world is ass-backwards in how it is SUPPOSED to be working, and the only explanation that makes sense is what I have taught them about Zionism and the Talmudic philosophy.  NOTHING ELSE MAKES SENSE at this point, UNLESS...you are going to go for the "Satan's World" myth that lays all of the blame at the foot of entities that no one, except the mentally ill, truly believe speak to them or have PERSONALLY seen.  

What do all of you think about this?  

LINDSEY

NB:  I am not trying to look at this too deeply, but I AM trying to make sense out of a world that has seemingly lost ALL sense of proportion and sense of right and wrong.  People agree privately that nothing makes sense, so what is the deal with the human race in this time of absolute clarity of who is doing what and to whom?  I am also talking about much more than just the Western nations, as this entire world is in the very same situation in each nation across the globe, in one form or another.

[sullivan]

Do any of you ever feel as though this whole world situation is just one big JOKE?

If it is a joke, it is one hell of a sick one. However, I know where you are coming from on this.

I am serious.  It is almost as if the entire human race is being tested, and WE ARE FAILING MISERABLY.

I disagree on that. I think we have neither failed nor succeeded and there is still everything to play for.

I know that I am not the only one who feels this way, and I can't quite put it into words how this feels, but I CAN say that if "I" can see so clearly the most important facts as they are, then why in the Hell can't the REST of the human race that is NOT a part of this evil?

Because many of them are spending every waking minute wondering about how to feed themselves and their families.

I am not a religious guy, and I have said this openly and very often.  I am not necessarily implying that this is a spiritual REALITY; however, I WILL say that even people who will never say these truths publicly tell me that this entire world is ass-backwards in how it is SUPPOSED to be working, and the only explanation that makes sense is what I have taught them about Zionism and the Talmudic philosophy.

In my opinion it goes further back than the Talmud, to the writings of which the Talmud is an 'interpretation'.  

NOTHING ELSE MAKES SENSE at this point, UNLESS...you are going to go for the "Satan's World" myth that lays all of the blame at the foot of entities that no one, except the mentally ill, truly believe speak to them or have PERSONALLY seen.

I'm not religious either, but I do believe there is a clear distinction between good and evil.  If people want to call evil "Satan's World" then that's fine by me.

[LordLindsey]

I wanted to add the following:

It is a GIVEN that human beings, as a whole, know instinctively what is right and what is wrong.  When I asked a question to my classes of grades 9, 11, and 12 the question, "Is the world much better or much worse now compared to 10 years ago?" nearly every single student gave the answer that things are much worse as a whole, AND THAT THERE IS ZERO REASON FOR THIS TO BE HAPPENING.  The REASON that they knew that there was ZERO EXCUSE FOR THIS TO BE HAPPENING was because I had taught all of my students that as technology progresses, if the human race was governed over by genuinely good human beings, then that technology would HAVE to be used to make life much, much better for the citizens of the nation in question, and if that is not happening...THEN WHY NOT AND WHY WOULD IT NOT BE HAPPENING ON A GLOBAL LEVEL?

I took nearly 1,000 brain-washed robots and made a SINCERE EFFORT to show them a world that no one before me had even ATTEMPTED to show them, and the effect was astounding.  The majority accepted the thought-provoking questions that I had for them to answer on their own, and while some could not bring themselves to face the reality that almost everything that they believe about the world is NOTHING BUT A LIE, it had gotten to a point where I knew that when things reach a point where they have gotten so bad that people are going to DEMAND answers.......those nearly 1,000 students are going to remember most, if not everything, that I attempted to teach them about critical thinking and applied reasoning in a world that has LOST its ability to reason-out what has happened to it--and they are going to tell everyone who will listen and on and on and on.

NOW...why is it that if I can have TEENAGERS go from mind-numbed zombies going through the motions of a lie to becoming fully awakened to the reality of what they will INEVITABLY FACE, we all can't seem to bring about real change in ANYONE in the "controlled media" or even have ANY other major victory against this world of outright lies and obvious obfuscation of larger facts?  

This is why I asked my original question in the beginning of the Topic.  There is no reason for things to be happening the way that they are, IN SUCH AN OBVIOUS FASHION, because the human race should go into a full-fledged defensive mechanism of survival--realizing that this continued trend will destroy the ways-of-life of nearly everyone on this planet if this is not reversed IMMEDIATELY!  I know that this may be getting deep, but I really would like to see what you others have to say about this because I am out of answers now in attempting to explain how THE HUMAN RACE AS A WHOLE is allowing itself to be destroyed and is doing NOTHING of consequence to change this direction.

LINDSEY

[LordLindsey]

No, Sullie, we ARE failing as a species because we have let this shit get this far out-of-hand.  I am speaking collectively as a HUMAN RACE, mind you, and not of the individual efforts.  When you have a member of the U S Congress KIDNAPPED, along with 20 others in international waters, and there is almost ZERO coverage...WE ARE FAILING AS A COLLECTIVE SPECIES, Sullie.  

Look...take a step back from all of this and look at it as an im-passioned observer who KNOWS the truth, KNOWS who is doing this to the world, and CAN SEE BLATANTLY that the people as a whole have ALLOWED themselves to be destroyed--whether they know it RIGHT NOW or not.  I am not going to make any more excuses or attempt to explain this because I HAVE no explanation any longer for why the human race has allowed the things that are happening to it to happen.  Look...the people lost about 40% of their wealth in ONE YEAR, Sullie, and are STILL not "getting it."  I want people to think much more deeply about this and see if he or she can find SOMETHING, ANYTHING, that I have missed to explain how this can be.

I have done more in my life than most people, and I am still very young.  I have seen much more personally than most, and I have met more diverse people in their home-setting than most.  What is making me uncomfortable is that with all of this experience--REAL-life experience--I have no answers to what should be simple questions and those questions are now put-out for others to answer because it has become so ridiculously obvious that humanity is in more trouble than even "WE" may know, and if I was not the type of man who has to "see it to believe it," I would have to say that it is a "spiritual battle" because I simply can't give any other answer.  

I am just shaking my head as I write this...and let me post just ONE (1) "news article" in the front page to illustrate my point about how low we have sunk as a society while the roof is on fire...

http://m.www.yahoo.com/_ylt=Ao6.oBpdkTy ... 26src=news

This is on the FRONT PAGE of Yahoo news, and has been for well-over an hour.  While Cynthia and the rest of the "Gaza 21" were HELD HOSTAGE, the news was running front-page stories about how Transformers 2 was one of the most horrible blockbusters EVER and how funny it was that the people pay $12 to see a movie that was so badly made!  JESUS H. CHRIST, PEOPLE!!!!  WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU!??   :roll:  :?:  :!:  :lol:

LINDSEY

NB:  I NEVER saw ANYTHING about the ENTIRE SITUATION at ANY POINT on Yahoo anywhere...even up to now, there is not a word mentioned about it.

[sullivan]

No, Sullie, we ARE failing as a species because we have let this shit get this far out-of-hand.  I am speaking collectively as a HUMAN RACE, mind you, and not of the individual efforts.  When you have a member of the U S Congress KIDNAPPED, along with 20 others in international waters, and there is almost ZERO coverage...WE ARE FAILING AS A COLLECTIVE SPECIES, Sullie.  

I know things have been pushed to a point that seems like the point of no return, but I'm still loathe to believe that. In fact, the further things are pushed, the greater the backlash is likely to be, History is full of such swings in our collective fortunes. The only difference this time around is that the technology the so-called 'elite' have at their disposal is vastly superior to what it has been at any time before. However, as before, their technology can still be used against them and may well prove to be their Achilles Heel.

Look...take a step back from all of this and look at it as an im-passioned observer who KNOWS the truth, KNOWS who is doing this to the world, and CAN SEE BLATANTLY that the people as a whole have ALLOWED themselves to be destroyed--whether they know it RIGHT NOW or not.  I am not going to make any more excuses or attempt to explain this because I HAVE no explanation any longer for why the human race has allowed the things that are happening to it to happen.  Look...the people lost about 40% of their wealth in ONE YEAR, Sullie, and are STILL not "getting it."  I want people to think much more deeply about this and see if he or she can find SOMETHING, ANYTHING, that I have missed to explain how this can be.

The impression I get is that a lot of people are getting it, but still don't want to admit to themselves or others that things are as horrible as they really are. When the 40% of their wealth is taken from them, their entire attention is diverted to protecting what remains, instead of hitting back. That is a natural if illogical reaction.

I have done more in my life than most people, and I am still very young.  I have seen much more personally than most, and I have met more diverse people in their home-setting than most.  What is making me uncomfortable is that with all of this experience--REAL-life experience--I have no answers to what should be simple questions and those questions are now put-out for others to answer because it has become so ridiculously obvious that humanity is in more trouble than even "WE" may know, and if I was not the type of man who has to "see it to believe it," I would have to say that it is a "spiritual battle" because I simply can't give any other answer.  

The problem is that what are perceived as simple questions are anything but, due to the highly complex nature of human interaction. Yes, it is a spiritual battle in the sense that it is a battle of good against evil. As ever, due to their very nature, those who are 'good' prove to be reluctant to engage themselves in a dirty fight, whereas such dirty fights are second nature to those given to evil.

I am just shaking my head as I write this...and let me post just ONE (1) "news article" in the front page to illustrate my point about how low we have sunk as a society while the roof is on fire...

Yes, it is unbelievable. However, if history is anything to go by, this sort of idiocy seems to be a precursor to the fall of an empire.

[LordLindsey]

Sullie, I really like what you had to add.  Maybe it is your age showing!  I really would like for this to be a discussion among the others of TIU who haven't really put their feelings on an issue like this anywhere else in their posts because I have made my point as far as how I feel.

Sullie, I don't disagree with what you said, but, again, this is where others should give their views because maybe someone has something to add that can help ALL OF US.

LINDSEY

[mgt23]

i think the truth is we're fucked, but am going down fighting anyway. one can only do ones best day by day. we each must decide our own fate and manifest it in practical and possible ways.

[Wimpy]

Responding to your philosophical question, I think there are two primary explanations for our past and present dilemma.

Not religious in a traditional sense though I was raised Catholic, I personally believe from experiences that evil does exist.  I really do think that religion does have many foundations based on truth including the literal concept of evil though religions have generally twisted these truths and added some nonsense to control and extract power from followers.  That's a debate for another time however.

So, why do the Cabbalistic Pharisee carry out rituals and symbolisms through the centuries (Blood sacrifice, Astrological Dates, Babylonian and Egyptian Symbolism)?  Why do the Sabbatean make it a point to be totally contrary to moral foundation?  Since they do their utmost  to suppress this information it doesn't follow that it is practiced for controlling the masses.  If it were, I suppose that we would all be indoctrinated and practicing these secrets long ago.  I think that they are performing these secret rituals to placate their Masters beyond the physical.  Yes, I know this sounds 'out there', particularly for logic minded folks and all but consider the logic behind the secrecy only shared at the top of their power structure.  Is it necessary to keep the ultra elite in-line and under control from each other?  Not likely.  This Cadre of people numbering  a few thousand (guess) must be "True Believers" in the same sense as Moralistic Religious folk.  I believe, therefore, they know things that are foreign to most of the world's population and that they are calling upon and prostrating themselves to a malevolent force(s).  One could also argue that it works for them.

The other explanation is more mundane in that people are rather easily manipulated, particularly if one has the power to influence the thought process from an early age and control of the message throughout.  Softening the target further is through the manipulation of core religious belief.  How convenient to be in a position, as a group, to claim authorship to the foundation of Christianity;  just keep telling and expecting the poor fools to turn the other cheek and forgive.

Regardless, the net result of this ongoing orgy of Evil, secular or mystical definition, is bringing the World to a complete financial and societal collapse.  We can all prepare for the worst and hope for the best or, perhaps, ignore it and hope that it's only just a bad dream.

[CrackSmokeRepublican]

This link may help or hurt, it is hard to say but an interesting read nevertheless. The Book of Matthew Chapter 24 is supposed to happen at some point in time. So, if humans were to live without the guidance of "God" proper, how would the world turn out? Any different than today?  If the human races can live in happiness and peace, can they do it without a religious Torah type God directing things?  Would Democracy or Republic suffice for Governance (i.e., UN)?  

Note that I think this writer has it wrong about Physical Israel. It is despoiled like a False Prophet or the Whore in Scarlet that sits on many waters:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/508255/The-Great-Tribulation