Even Superman is Jewish !

[hireality]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=feqzkxlifVc

[Canard]

Kal - El

[Hei Hu Quan]

If you want some real insight on the lot that created the character I suggest a book called "Men of Tomorrow" by Gerard Jones. Jerry Siegel and Joe Schuster were actually treated like goy prostitutes by predatory scumbags within their own ranks. Schuster the artist, died blind and near penniless as the Zionists ripped both him and Jerry Siegel the writer off savagely. The book also goes into the predatory environment they grew up in and the Jewish gangsters, pimps and thieves they had to contend in. In the earliest episodes of the Superman comics he went after true criminals including a auto manufacturer who was producing shit cars that were killing people. In that episode he ordered all the factory workers out and utterly destroyed the operation. In another he catches some youth delinquents pulling crimes and finds they come from a nearby ghetto/slum. Superman goes to the governor and pleads for him to do something about it, and the governor states "I can't do anything about it!". So Superman then gathers and tells the youths to go from house to house and tell everyone to evacuate the area and their homes. Then he proceeds to smash all the buildings to rubble, to where the governor labels Superman a threat and  calls out an air strike on him. What does Superman do? He stands still for moments in strategic positions and let's the aircraft's bombs cut his work in half. The governor then call the area a disaster and rebuilds the entire community. As another example, there are some munitions companies engineering wars for profit and he grabs the head of each and takes them directly to the front so they can see what they cause. Then he grabs  the leaders of both countries at war and says they have to fight each other personally to see who wins. They both then admit they don't even know why they were fighting in the first place. After a few of these type of stories including infiltrating a chain gang to expose brutality by prison guards. They slapped a fast leash on Jerry Siegel and made him confine his writing to abstract sci-fi enemies and corny two-bit gangsters.

Check it out yourself, as I wouldn't categorise either of them as Zionists or conspiratorial criminal Jews, in fact they were the victims of them and they literally signed away the rights to the character for pittances. The Superman you see today was not the one born from their minds. Max Fleischer however is another can of worms and propagated many vicious, ugly stereotypes of everyone but his own people in his productions. Don't even get me started on the bloody 'chosen criminals' at Warner Brothers.

[kolnidre]

Awesome post, HHQ. Nice to hear about two mensches, but sad to hear how they were beaten down and co-opted.

I'd also recommend Our Gods Wear Spandex by Chris Knowles, and since you mention growing up in a crime-infested neighborhood, Tough Jews by Rich Cohen is an incredibly eye-opening read. I read that book and By Way of Deception back when I still believed in the underdog myth. Since I didn't see the whole picture and manipulation I was persuaded to think Jewish crime was somehow cute and brainy, rather than brutal and devious. Re-reading those books with a clearer perspective is a completely different experience.

Don't support Cohen's glorification of crime, but purchase Knowles's book if you get a chance. He goes into the origins of comics as well as the whole occult code that runs through it and thus pervades our culture. He's even more detailed and articulate in interviews. I'm looking forward to the publication his next book.

[hireality]

Thanks for the info folks...

[Canard]

wow awesome thread, good posts; kol, hhq

[Anonymous]

LOL

LANA LANG is Jimmy Olsen in drag

http://secretsun.blogspot.com/2008/05/f ... -love.html

[clark-kent]

Great thread and because of my user name I feel I must comment on the subject.I think HHQ's post Illustrates the fact that not all jews are bad people and they can create things that we as a culture can embrace. Superman is not jewish, he's a fictional character and in that world he is Kryptonian I read a lot of comics and I cannot think of a single character that is jewish.

There are lots of occult influences in comics but there are occult influences in all aspects of out culture and this doesn't bother me in the slightest. I know the difference between fiction and non-fiction and even though I have my beliefs I live my life secular.

[Canard]

Great thread and because of my user name I feel I must comment on the subject.I think HHQ's post Illustrates the fact that not all jews are bad people and they can create things that we as a culture can embrace. Superman is not jewish, he's a fictional character and in that world he is Kryptonian I read a lot of comics and I cannot think of a single character that is jewish.

There are lots of occult influences in comics but there are occult influences in all aspects of out culture and this doesn't bother me in the slightest. I know the difference between fiction and non-fiction and even though I have my beliefs I live my life secular.

Well, while the historic background of the Character Superman is not Jewish, he was created by two Jews.  So he is a Jewish fable.  That brings both culture shaping and status which brings along influence,I think thats an EXTREMELY important point.  The cache and affinity for those who created him is what I'm getting at.

He is somewhat of an update of the Golem, magical being that does whatever is needed in the case more of the US, albeit more refined.  His name is Kal-El im sure you know.  This is Hebrew.  

You say occult influences don't bother you, I dont say they should bother you persay, but you certainly should make yourself aware of them and what msg they are conveying / signal they are sending.  I've read several thousand comics too, no idea the total but those Characters who are Jewish, top of my head are; The Thing, and Moon Knight are.  Both DC and Marvel were in the old days and still are heavily populated with Jewish folks, publishing and all.  This is not an area they are lacking influence.  Watch all the new comic to film adaptations, most recently Ironman (total hate propaganda/agitprop) they all stay within the original area of discourse and simplistic teenager ideology.  I'm stating they are media that serve an end of its creators, much like the golem itself, they stir up teenage passions and then point at the enemy, much like the army does.

Honorable Mention; The Guardians of the Universe


Background

The Guardians evolved on the planet Maltus, and were among the first intelligent life forms in the universe.

The appearance of the Guardians of the Universe was modeled on then-Prime Minister of Israel David Ben-Gurion.

Sorry to get so deep on this with you being so new, but it's an area I've studied quite a bit and in general I enjoy analyzing propaganda and its disseminators.

[clark-kent]

Yea your right Ben Grimm is jewish. and now that I think of it Stan Lee is jewish as well. and the golem does kinda fit but wasn't the golem more like Frankenstien where he was put together or formed from earth ( I believe a technical term is homunculus)in witch superman is an alien. I have also heard that superman being an alien was a metaphor for jewish immigrants. What I was trying to say was that not all jewish creations are evil just because a jew was involved, I think that gets into racism, Where as I thought it was the Zionists we were concerned about.

I loved IRONMAN and shouldn't good drama get you agitated wether it be comic book inspired or not. From what I got from IRONMAN was an anti military industrial complex message.

Jesus Christ had supernatural powers and that is accepted and promoted in out society and that belief an other established religions have caused more wars,death and suffering then all occult beliefs put together.

[Canard]

Yea your right Ben Grimm is jewish. and now that I think of it Stan Lee is jewish as well. and the golem does kinda fit but wasn't the golem more like Frankenstien where he was put together or formed from earth ( I believe a technical term is homunculus)in witch superman is an alien. I have also heard that superman being an alien was a metaphor for jewish immigrants. What I was trying to say was that not all jewish creations are evil just because a jew was involved, I think that gets into racism, Where as I thought it was the Zionists we were concerned about.

I loved IRONMAN and shouldn't good drama get you agitated wether it be comic book inspired or not. From what I got from IRONMAN was an anti military industrial complex message.

Jesus Christ had supernatural powers and that is accepted and promoted in out society and that belief an other established religions have caused more wars,death and suffering then all occult beliefs put together.

I just didn't like the evil arabs in Ironman, yes I did appreciate the US False Flag aspect of it, but I felt it was too understated while DURKA DURKA is all I can think of looking back, perhaps im biased, in fact I'm sure I am.  

I agree frankenstein is the og Golem update of the last 200 years.  I can see the immigrant / superman, stranger in a strangeland.  I was always a Punisher and "the 'Nam" guy wacky kid that I was.

Yeah, not all jewish creations are evil, its just those that get a lot of airtime (personalities not comics, ADD attack sorry  :-P ) are these hardline right winger types.  If I was a jew I'd be pretty pissed off of the por representation.   The ones that aren't raging warmongers, usually are A--politcal and their voices are never heard or known to folks like us.  It's said they could be so vital a voice in this.  

I'm sure my friend from another forum won't mind just a snippet of a response he sent me today; he's jewish; I opened his eyes to the 'caust several years ago and the Jewish hand in it;  I wanted to see if he had learned more about or if someone had changed his mind and convinced them what I pointed out to him were just the ravings of a madman (quite possible   ). He wrote me;

"I believe Zionists are using Jews as COVER for their actions.

People are convinced that Judaism = Zionism... and this is not true, but the Zionists who are behind all of the big events in the world use words like "anti-semitism" to scare off anyone who challenges their agenda.
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People my age and younger (30-40ish) are starting to see this charade for what it is. But not enough people in the USA. "

Sometimes I speak very plain and I know it can scare people and their memories of history class drilling evil Germany into their minds is lurking somewhere.  I like to point out I relay some thoughts from time to passed jews for the express point of taking the temperature if you will or gauging reaction...and yes certain other asshole jews will dismiss them as self-hating.

[clark-kent]

I really didn't think you were anti-semitic. I can understand the factiousness of your signature.

What does Kal-El mean in Hebrew?

Anyways this is getting into the same old discussion about how all Jews=Zionists=Evil. In witch we need to avoid here. I just saw something about superman and comics are a major pasttime of mine and my user name happens to be clark-kent so I felt I had to comment.

Batman is my favorite character and I maybe wrong but Bob Kane and Bill Finger weren't Jewish. You may have me on the jewish questions in comics but i could go on for days about the dichotomies between Batman/Superman and Batman/Joker and thats just the start of my batknowledge.

I don't think comics have been given the respect they deserve ,especially lately with the explosion of popularity of graphic novels. When a good writer teams with a good artist even in the superhero genre I think its better then any novel.

Superman was the first character to start the comic book industry we know today and for that I will always defend him.

[clark-kent]

btw check out the comic Palestine in the A/V section that I posted, I think you'll find it interesting.
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[Canard]

I really didn't think you were anti-semitic. I can understand the factiousness of your signature.

What does Kal-El mean in Hebrew?

Anyways this is getting into the same old discussion about how all Jews=Zionists=Evil. In witch we need to avoid here. I just saw something about superman and comics are a major pasttime of mine and my user name happens to be clark-kent so I felt I had to comment.

Batman is my favorite character and I maybe wrong but Bob Kane and Bill Finger weren't Jewish. You may have me on the jewish questions in comics but i could go on for days about the dichotomies between Batman/Superman and Batman/Joker and thats just the start of my batknowledge.

I don't think comics have been given the respect they deserve ,especially lately with the explosion of popularity of graphic novels. When a good writer teams with a good artist even in the superhero genre I think its better then any novel.

Superman was the first character to start the comic book industry we know today and for that I will always defend him.

That's quite the batknowlege, next thing you'll tell me you've made your own anti shark spray and a utility belt.  :lol:   I am looking forward to the next Batman film, Nolan never disappoints. My fave graphic novel is Watchmen, man that thing was great. Man the movie is gonna suck a fat dick.....the idiot who made 300, Zachary Somecrap is pissing all over it....Oh well it was a good read.  

Interesting side note Alan Moore Expressly denies a Zionist Conspiracy in a very interresting video; the mindscape of Alan Moore.   Well my commentary aside, he knows where his bread is buttered.

About Superman and Kal-El.

From wikipedia;

"Because Siegel and Shuster were both Jewish, some religious commentators and pop-culture scholars such as Rabbi Simcha Weinstein and British novelist Howard Jacobson suggest that Superman's creation was partly influenced by Moses,[32][33] and other Jewish elements. Superman's Kryptonian name, "Kal-El," resembles the Hebrew words ??-??, which can be taken to mean "voice of God".[34] [35]. The suffix "el", meaning "(of) God"[36] is also found in the name of angels (e.g. Gabriel, Ariel), who are flying humanoid agents of good with superhuman powers. Jewish legends of the Golem have been cited as worthy of comparison..."

Regarding Bob Kane;
http://www.thejewishmuseum.org/site/pages/onlinex.php?id=144
"Over 70 works and artifacts from the golden age of comic books (1938-1950) will be on display. The exhibition will showcase the work of fifteen Jewish comic book artists and writers from this era, including Joe Shuster and Jerry Siegel who created Superman and Bob Kane and Bill Finger who created Batman."

Did you ever see the batman animated series / superman crossover?  There was a pretty slick instance where batman had to pose as superman, using tech to be able to fly etc... I remember enjoying that one a lot. Good talk.

[clark-kent]

Wow proven wrong again but I wasn't sure and I said I wasn't so I'm off the hook. Maybe they anglicized their names and fooled me Kane=Coen Finger=Finkel who knows. I like to fuck with people and say I did that, my last name is Greene, so I say Greenbaum or Greenberg. I'm a Mutt-American so I could have jewish blood but I don't think so, the most I can say is I'm 1/4 italian. I'm supposed to be directly related to Gen. Nathaniel Greene from the Revolutionary War who could of been a president(according to my family) if he didn't die of heat stroke in his 40's.

That's great info about Kal-El it makes a lot of sense.A graphic novel/elseworlds having Superman really jewish would be interesting don't think it will happen though. Like a rabbi making a golem and being supes or ma and pa kent being jews and converting clark. Now who could Lex Luthor be?Nobody obvious please. The actor on Smallville is jewish.

I loved the animated series. There was one episode where Superman goes to Gotham and dresses as Batman and beats up Bane. I just have to mention Harley Quinn while we're at it. :drool:

[Canard]

Wow proven wrong again but I wasn't sure and I said I wasn't so I'm off the hook. Maybe they anglicized their names and fooled me Kane=Coen Finger=Finkel who knows. I like to fuck with people and say I did that, my last name is Greene, so I say Greenbaum or Greenberg. I'm a Mutt-American so I could have jewish blood but I don't think so, the most I can say is I'm 1/4 italian. I'm supposed to be directly related to Gen. Nathaniel Greene from the Revolutionary War who could of been a president(according to my family) if he didn't die of heat stroke in his 40's.

That's great info about Kal-El it makes a lot of sense.A graphic novel/elseworlds having Superman really jewish would be interesting don't think it will happen though. Like a rabbi making a golem and being supes or ma and pa kent being jews and converting clark. Now who could Lex Luthor be?Nobody obvious please. The actor on Smallville is jewish.

I loved the animated series. There was one episode where Superman goes to Gotham and dresses as Batman and beats up Bane. I just have to mention Harley Quinn while we're at it. :drool:

I think I saw the Bane one too, lol I know a fat kid who has a harley quinn tattoo.  I would love a superman one off like you say, with ma and pa kent being closest qabalists doing christian blood libel sacrifices in the a basement and then feeding loaves of bread to smallville as the last cell.  Maybe ill type that up and send it it.  

[clark-kent]

The bane one was a superman animated. I wanted to get a tattoo of Poison Ivy growing potbut I decided to keep my tattoos all black ink and Ivy wouldn't work.Ma and Pa Kent ritually murdering Lana Lang or a that annoying Pete Ross that was on Smallville...hmmm.... now I think you've got something there.