TiU/TFC 6th Aug DBS, Rafeeg & Ognir

[Ognir]

http://theinfounderground.com/archives/ ... .Ognir.mp3

I fucked up, lost about 10 mins when we talked about China

[joeblow]

TiU/TFC 6th Aug DBS, Rafeeg & Ognir  IS FREELEECH!

[mgt23]

on your point on mongolia noel. the mongols for one absorbed entire nations.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khazars

Between 965 and 969, their sovereignty was broken by Sviatoslav I of Kiev, and they became a subject people of Kievan Rus'. Gradually displaced by the Rus, the Kipchaks, and later the conquering Mongol Golden Horde, the Khazars largely disappeared as a culturally distinct people.

[kolnidre]

Good points on Chabad by Daryl.

Concerning China's willingness to cull the herd, I believe I've shared this information before, but I'll repeat it.

I was visiting Beijing University right in the middle of the first Gulf War invasion of Iraq. During numerous discussions with Chinese students and even professors the same subject kept coming up. In all seriousness, these students and faculty at the highest institution of learning in China asked me what I thought China could do to provoke a war with the US so as to help alleviate their population problem.

Either something had been inculcated in these Chinese elites to make them proto-eugenicists, or they believed based on personal experience that China desperately needed to reduce its population. Either way, I have no doubt that China's "haves" have zero empathy for the "have-nots." Add to that the crowding and lack of respect for life in general that is easily observed in that country and it's a ticking time bomb.

Speaking of Zio mischief in China, meet one Sidney Rittenberg. This is from Ziopedia:

During the Cultural Revolution, Rittenberg was radicalised and in the summer of 1967 headed the "Dr. Norman Bethune - Yan'an rebel group" (白求恩－延安造反团), which had about seventy members. He led political struggles at China Radio International. Han Suyin at that time said that Rittenberg was in complete control of the radio station.

In February 1968, several members of the "Dr. Norman Bethune - Yan'an rebel group" were arrested, among them Israel Epstein and his wife Elsie Fairfax-Cholmeley (Qiū Mòlì 丘茉莉), Michael Shapiro and Rittenberg.

Gee, either the Chinese were antisemites or...

I don't know enough about this intrigue in China, but at the very least it indicates SR's participation in the old strategy of tension, keeping things stirred up.

And isn't it interesting that a lone American-born Jew nonetheless wrestled control of a radio station in a foreign country?

[joeblow]

http://www.thesink.ca/BETHUNE/imagesofnormanbethune.htm



Painting representing Bethune's only meeting with Mao



Statue of Bethune



Chinese stamps

[kolnidre]

Bethune, who all China watchers used to learn about as Bai Qiuyen 白求恩 early in their contact with China, was of Scottish background. Jakob Rosenfeld was another radical commie doctor who spent the war years in China and was given the rank of general. He treated many of the top CCP leadership.

Shanghai's Jewish community was huge at one time. It's probably huge again.

[CrackSmokeRepublican]

Chinese perceptions of the 'Jews' and Judaism
 By Xun Zhou

Mao defined the "Nation" as a distinct racial and cultural group. Interesting that the foundation of Israel caused Mao to kick out the Jews as "imperialists"... he probably just wanted their meddling removed from China since they worked closely with the Soviets. If you really look closely, there is always a Russian or Western Jew teaching or inspiring a group of young communist "revolutionaries" throughout Asia.


Interesting perception on page 162 about a compromised Chinese Leader that followed "Jewish Capitalism" for China :  
http://books.google.com/books?id=y94JwZ ... q=&f=false

http://www.sino-judaic.org/links.html
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