Fractures in the “Truth” Movement

[maz]

This article is the from War On You Forums and I found it on the Red Ice RSS news feed so it has already gotten a fair amount of circulation. By the way the moderator for the War On You was one of the forum members from Prison Planet who, like myself, found himself to be at odds with Sane and all the NWO did it types. The article starts with profiling the bigger names of the truth movement and describing why the alternative media movement of fracturing.

http://waronyou.com/topics/fractures-in ... mment-6359

Separating the mice from the men

Zionism Versus the German Death Cult

So who has more influence in this country? An elusive Germanic Death Cult, with whom the only possible people to blame are the "front men" in government and corporations, or a zionist elite which pervades every aspect of the supposed Germanic death cult and more?

According to Jones, the world is controlled by a loose series of occult secret societies, which at some miraculous point in the future will all agree on one world government. But the problem is, if there's no real cohesion between the New World Order affiliates, then to whom, and how and when are they going to decide to all of a sudden relinquish their hard-earned power? If there is no one to point to at the very top, then there is no one to point to at all. Those government and corporate "front men" Jones refers to could never be held truly responsible for their crimes if there is always an elusive superior who gave the order.

A serious look at US history will show even the dilettante a pattern of Zionists who pretend to be Jewish, Christian, Muslim, Republican, Democrat, American–anything but the creatures they are: godless zionist thugs. The fact that most of the banks, media, food manufacturing companies and social services in this country are owned and controlled by Zionists masquerading as upstanding Jews and Christians seems to have no effect upon the opinion of Alex Jones or Jason Bermas. They still claim the country is controlled by "death cults," and Alex Jones has even claimed that "Hollywood is owned by the Arabs," the notion of which Jew Ben Stein (and many others) laugh at.

One of the hallmarks of oppression is controlled opposition. This entails injecting your man into your opposition, to be able to control that opposition. If you pay someone to spread false information, the chances of cohesive action against your plan disintegrates. Zionists are masters of playing both sides, as evinced through the Israelis' mostly phony war with Hamas, which they played a major part in creating.

Zionism Means Never Having to Say You're Sorry

This fracture in the truth movement between the anti-zionists and the Alex Jones automatons was building gradually for a few years until Bermas blew the issue wide open on Alex Jones' show in April. Since then the fracture has become a fissure, and the fissure will soon become a gulf.

Jones wishes to recruit every new possible "truther" into his "cointelpro" "zionism equals anti-semitism" world before they can search a little deeper into the non-moneyed world to discover the zionist beast. But with his money, duped from starry-eyed patriots who foolishly trust him to spend it on the "cause," Jones has promoted himself and his scare-mongering, not the truth. He has proven himself the most skittish of mice, and has separated himself from the men with his ultimate treachery: the sacrilege of twisting the truth into a profit.

And while Alex Jones cries and moans and attempts to sue everyone on the planet who criticizes him, the two other major players in the truth movement–Jeff Rense and Mike Rivero–remain reticent in the face of conflict. Jeff Rense simply issued a humble statement regarding the issue, and Rivero looked the other way, wisely seeing it as a worthless distraction. Rivero still links to Jones' material and appears as a guest on the Alex Jones Show, and has not made public (to my knowledge) his opinion on the matter..

But to those of us who don't have the big names, and who live in the trenches of the battle for truth every day, the split widens, and the balance is coming over to our side. Alex Jones is now seeing his control slide away, and good riddance.

Zionism, with all of its different manifestations and evil, has lost its impervious way. The internet has shown its tactics the door, and now that the proverbial cat is out of the bag, the zionists are all a-fluster. Their time-honored tactics no longer avail them; in fact, their tactics now expose their true methods rather than covering them up.

Zionism's controlled opposition to the truth movement has failed. They are desperate to regain the field, and I'm afraid they'll do anything they believe will regain it.

[scorpio]

A serious look at US history will show even the dilettante a pattern of Zionists who pretend to be Jewish, Christian, Muslim, Republican, Democrat, American–anything but the creatures they are: godless zionist thugs. The fact that most of the banks, media, food manufacturing companies and social services in this country are owned and controlled by Zionists masquerading as upstanding Jews and Christians seems to have no effect upon the opinion of Alex Jones or Jason Bermas.

Yes! This is the core of the issue. If you don't have that piece of the puzzle, then you will never solve it!

Zionism Means Never Having to Say You're Sorry

:lol:  :evil:

This fracture in the truth movement between the anti-zionists and the Alex Jones automatons was building gradually for a few years until Bermas blew the issue wide open on Alex Jones' show in April. Since then the fracture has become a fissure, and the fissure will soon become a gulf.

This is  probably why Bermas was demoted to once a week. Before this, he was Jones' heir apparent. His minnie-me, so to speak.
This article really lays out the whole Jones issue in a very effective way. Thanks

[Chargeemquick]

Good article,and well-timed in the current climate.The comments were very heartening as well

[Ognir]

Excellent article,   Special TiU/TFC later on today

[Rockclimber]

Damned fine read! Spot on for the most part. Thanks.

[MikeWB]

Brilliant article!!! It's a must read everyone!

[Ognir]

Post by Scott on ConCen trying to explain to some of the AJ retards over there

Alex Jones Quotations

"And I got a lot of friends in Hollywood."
- Alex Jones

"Hollywood is owned by the Arabs."
- Alex Jones

"I mean so, the point is, they just own everything. I mean, they control the whole deal."
- Alex Jones, talking about Arabs

"And the Arabs are the biggest owners now of media in the United States, okay, and over stock exchanges. And in many major U.S. cities they're the majority owners."
- Alex Jones

"And certainly Hollywood is, you know, uh, heavily, uh, you know, owned, and, an... has a lot of Jews in it, okay? And certainly the ADL attacks us."
- Alex Jones

"Now the British are still the biggest owners of raw land, oil, uh, uh, mines, uh, a lot of infrastructure. The British are the most wealthy in the world, that is the elite that's based there. They're the 'King Daddies'."
- Alex Jones

"I do a real analysis of who actually owns things - it's the British...the Dutch...then it's the Arabs...then it's the French...then it's the Jews...and then, on down the line."
- Alex Jones

"Really, from my research, it's, it's these Luciferian controllers. It doesn't matter if it's Albert Pike, the founder of the Klan/Confederate General, allied with these people, or Adolf Hitler. It's just an evil crew of individuals."
- Alex Jones

"Because the European Union is, is, is basically a vessel of Rome. I mean that's in their founding documents - from the Treaty of Rome. It's an extension of that empire. You can debate who's driving it, but you got the last two Popes calling for world government."
- Alex Jones

"And everybody's running around talking about 'Zionists' all day. Okay, just keep parroting that over and over again."
- Alex Jones

"You know, I don't even wanna bash illegal aliens anymore because I realize that's playing into Balkanization."
- Alex Jones

"Top black rappers are in the L.A. Times plugging 'The Obama Deception'."
- Alex Jones

"God, I don't care if you're a Jew, gypsy, Chinese, Mexican..."
- Alex Jones

"God, the people are comin' together - black, White, Hispanic, Jewish, German, Chinese...doesn't matter. They're comin' together."
- Alex Jones

"We're wakin' people up - black, white, old, young, Jewish, German, Chinese...doesn't matter...Native American, Mexican. We're comin' together."
- Alex Jones

"But that doesn't mean Israel carried out the attack."
- Alex Jones, talking about the 9/11 attacks

"Now, uh, I, have not, you know, jumped on the bandwagon to say that Israel carried out 9/11."
- Alex Jones, talking about the 9/11 attacks

"Folks, I've done the research! Israel could not carry out these attacks. And, and, I, uh again, I'm just saying that on the record. I'm trying to go after who's guilty. I'll say who I believe did it, and th...all the evidence shows it. And it's, it's, it's Dick Cheney 'n it's people above him."
- Alex Jones, talking about the 9/11 attacks

"Well, I mean, it's not true. People can say I'm a 14 foot tall blood-drink...blood-drinking reptoid, but it's not true. 'What do you say about those that say you're handled by Zionists?'. Well, number one, it's not true. But number two, I do have Jewish friends, which people do grab and use...and I think that's really anti-Semitism. And if that makes me a Zionist-handled creature, then guilty as charged."
- Alex Jones, in response to the question that he has Zionist handlers

"And I also have experienced them saying I'm Jewish. 'Jones', uh...they claim, i...is a Jewish name. I mean...I mean I'm Welsh. You know...you know my family, uh...is...are founders of Texas. Ah, but there's nothing wrong with being Jewish, if I was. So it's very, very annoying - they say 'Jones is a Jew'. You know, uh...uh...uh...you know...an...all of this stuff...and that I work for Israel."
- Alex Jones

"Every time we look, they're killing Jews."
- Alex Jones

"Why? Why are they always wanting to kill Jews?"
- Alex Jones

"You know, it, it's a religion to, to bash Jews, and I'm just not gonna take part in it."
- Alex Jones

"And I certainly don't like the white supremacists and those whose religion is hating the Jews, period."
- Alex Jones

"The Jew haters and white supremacists...all they do is fight with each other all day too."
- Alex Jones

"And I fount out...again, a lot of the Zionist organizations are covertly funding white supremacists."
- Alex Jones

"I'm saying...I don't wanna be anywhere near the white supremacists...but not even them so much...just the Jew-haters, uh, are, are just the most mentally ill, lying freaks!"
- Alex Jones

"There are a bunch of people who worship Adolf Hitler who don't like me because I don't think Jews have 14 inch fangs and drink blood and sneak around in bushes."
- Alex Jones

"And, you know, the anti-Semites, they first said, 'Oh, well we're not against Jews. We're against Zionists'. But now they'll tell you everywhere, 'It's Jews. Jews are evil. Arrest 'em. Get 'em.' And you know, that's a load of bull. 98% of Jews out there don't know about the New World Order."
- Alex Jones

"It's...it's easy to have some little bitty website and use a fake name and sit there and...you know...talk bad about Jews all day and enjoy yourselves...uh, you know...getting your kicks 'cause you live in, you know...a...a one room apartment and your mad at life or whatever and wanna blame us...you know."
- Alex Jones

"Because I know I'm for real, ya know. I know I've got my integrity. I know I try every day to be a moral, upstanding person. And I try to not hurt people's feelings either."
- Alex Jones

[Ognir]

Side note, the Admin @Waronyou has signed up to TiU
Welcome to him

[maz]

I downloaded a show where he said that Barack Obama is being pimped out by white slave masters Rahm Emanuel and Larry Summers  :lol: I'll try and cut the clip and get it up. The guy is just amazing.

[Rockclimber]

I downloaded a show where he said that Barack Obama is being pimped out by white slave masters Rahm Emanuel and Larry Summers  :lol: I'll try and cut the clip and get it up. The guy is just amazing.

 :roll: And people think he's on the level

[Ognir]

TiU welcome to Dean,the author of the piece

[Rockclimber]

TiU welcome to Dean,the author of the piece

I will have to welcome him here since I can't find his post!

Welcome Brandon and waronyou...we are very pleased to have you here.

[maz]

I downloaded a show where he said that Barack Obama is being pimped out by white slave masters Rahm Emanuel and Larry Summers  :lol: I'll try and cut the clip and get it up. The guy is just amazing.

 :roll: And people think he's on the level

Here you go Rockclimber, if you can stand his voice.

http://sharebee.com/28593845

AJ is exsentially saying that Rahm Emmanuel and Larry Summers are running the White House which is true, but he throws his audience a curve ball and calls them white men, not Zionist Jews.

[brandon dean]

TiU welcome to Dean,the author of the piece

I will have to welcome him here since I can't find his post!

Welcome Brandon and waronyou...we are very pleased to have you here.

hey rockclimber - here's my first post.   :mrgreen:  

thanks to both of you for the welcome.  I heard the radio show with DBS, and I have to say I didn't think this would get quite the reaction it did.  I seem to have struck a nerve, especially with rense and whatreallyhappened both posting links to it, among many others.  it does a good bit to validate the things I said about them.

Ognir, thanks for the kind review on the radio show.  I agree the article doesn't quite go into certain details it could have, and leaves out a number of things from the past couple months, like the money bombs and phallux jones trying to sell his new-found anti-zionism, etc.  I tried to center it around the events with bermas and jeff rense, so as not to spread the focus too thin.

but never fear - I've gotten so many emails, and such a huge response, that I feel it necessary to write an addendum to the article, which I started last night.  it will hopefully do more to explain my point of view regarding the recent events, clear up a few things about the first article, and present the case for anti-zionism in a way that even phallux jones robots can understand.

again, thanks for the welcome.  you have a great site, and I love the radio show - I'll be listening as often as possible from now on...

[CrackSmokeRepublican]

I downloaded a show where he said that Barack Obama is being pimped out by white slave masters Rahm Emanuel and Larry Summers

No... really?  

Excellent work here!

Cheers!

[Rockclimber]

TiU welcome to Dean,the author of the piece

I will have to welcome him here since I can't find his post!

Welcome Brandon and waronyou...we are very pleased to have you here.

hey rockclimber - here's my first post.   :mrgreen:  

thanks to both of you for the welcome.  I heard the radio show with DBS, and I have to say I didn't think this would get quite the reaction it did.  I seem to have struck a nerve, especially with rense and whatreallyhappened both posting links to it, among many others.  it does a good bit to validate the things I said about them.

Ognir, thanks for the kind review on the radio show.  I agree the article doesn't quite go into certain details it could have, and leaves out a number of things from the past couple months, like the money bombs and phallux jones trying to sell his new-found anti-zionism, etc.  I tried to center it around the events with bermas and jeff rense, so as not to spread the focus too thin.

but never fear - I've gotten so many emails, and such a huge response, that I feel it necessary to write an addendum to the article, which I started last night.  it will hopefully do more to explain my point of view regarding the recent events, clear up a few things about the first article, and present the case for anti-zionism in a way that even phallux jones robots can understand.

again, thanks for the welcome.  you have a great site, and I love the radio show - I'll be listening as often as possible from now on...

Hi Brandon!

Looking forward to the addendum and I'm sure it will be a good one.

A guy named Z.O.G. posted several replies to your editorial (at waronyou). He asked that I post this some additional info here that he shared with me. I will post it in a bit.

[Ognir]

Looking forward to updated article Brandon

You hit a nerve alright, frustration with *other*truthers that can get their heads around this Zionist Beast

@Scott lol there is a Bermas for your mind :lol:

[Rockclimber]

@Scott lol there is a Bermas for your mind :lol:

I actually picked that up from waronyou's site. Couldn't resist posting it here  :lol: