TO OGNIR-not ignoring people with a different view

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rey2010

Hopefully others besides me  will ask OGNIR i fwe can look in having  as guests on his radioshow the following people:(and peple could add their own guests as well)

[note I have written to other radio shows but apparently  f you are NOT part of the "in"(zionists/shills) crowd you seldom get interview..]
[check up the websites  of these people.. then decide.]

1- LARRY SINCLAIR-it is unbelievable that only JEFF RENSE  http://www.rense.com supported him and it is the MAIN REASON why he is  still alive today..Alex Jones will NOT have him on nor next to all of the christian patriotic radio shows.
.If Sinclair had had the required traction OBAMA would never had been elected.So all them patriot radio hosts thattignored him and who are now crying wolf at Obama misdeeds are... shills...
http://larrysinclair-0926.blogspot.com

2-Dr Len Horowitz...I do think he would make a good guest...he has  a lot to say about new agers,zionists,health care, upcoming vaccinations,etc..music,etc..etc..about certain patriotic/mainstream broadcasters  that have invited him and then trash him afterwards.
http://drlenhorowitz.com

3-Peter Sumaruck (I was cut off by Josh Reeves(he is from Texas) of  http://www.oraclebroadcasting.com and accused of being a paid(?) promoter -sure I have $100,000 to spare..Sumaruck has had encounters with CITIZEN Ross Perot(crooked Texas oilman that ran for prez years ago)

Briefly ,Sumaruck has found a way to give people more or less free energy or at a ridiculous low cost..he is selling his big units and telling people you can replicate them,downgrade them and make smaller units all for FREE.No fees,no licenses..no royalties..
http://www.worldviewopinion.com

4- Paul Pantone- who is now on probation/parole- free after spending 3 1/2 yrs in the psychiatric prison in Utah-state of the Demonic Mormosn-they tried to kill Pantone and destroy his mind.. He is now in Oklahoma and his GEET technology is being applied in Europe...
His website is managed by his son who is in The Netherlands
http://www.geet.nl     Needless to say Alex Jones and other patriotic big mouths have ignored him..

5-Greg Caton an herbalist who company was destroyed by the FDA and as well as his busines company(construction)-spent over 3 yrs in jail and only got out if he promised NEVER to have anyhting to do with health care

Finally he had to move to ECUADOR(Bahama,Mexico etc..countries to close to the US and he was not welcome there)
Strangely next to zero infos about his case by so-called health advocates,gurus etc..Why ? Because G. Caton is HONEST and is now selling roducts that do WORK at a very reasonable price..He wrote a book about his ordeal..
http://www.altcancer.com

PS As in the case of G Caton (#5) and of Pantone(#4) while these persons were persecuted the FDA,governmental agencies allowed CROOKS,counterfeiters to promote their own bogus products and so far they have never been prosecuted whatsoever..

Ognir

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rey2010

Here are other links of people/inventors that have working free energy devices.Also this is why next to  zero patriotic radio shows will never mention them because they are all SHILLS.
.Imagine,a free energy device available NOW.Thus the Global warming/Carbon Credit tax scam falls apart and that derails the Rothschilds + related zionist + their minions..

Again I do hope that OGNIR can start interviewing these people as  they DO NEED more MEDIA EXPOSURE..And we now have solutions tay for present day problems..

Now how come,India,China,Japan  etc are not jumping the gun on these inventions ? Simply because they are all controlled as well as the radical left parties in power in South/Central America..As for Africa-all the leaders are corrupt-if they do not abide by the bankers orders they are simply replaced..

And pay as you travel by car  is a distinct possibility within 1-2 yrs-so taking your car will be l ike taking a TAXI.
.This is the 2nd plan the Rothschilds + et al have if case they cannot eradicate these free energy devices.
.So our only chance is to take them  swift actions BEFORE they can implement their road toll fees/taxes.
.And every person having to wear a counter to calculate his/her carbon footprint and pay as you walk could no tbethat  far away in the future..

In Quebec  local papers are now having carbon footprints surveys-to find out for fun(!) how much ressources/carbon  footprint you utilize...this in order to IMPOSE limitations on all of us in the near future..
People over here are so brainwashed that they will EASILY COMPLY and demand more restrictions to save the planet.
And they are so conditioned that they rely on TV to tell them if it will rain or be sunny or not instead of looking out of the window..Then I hear people complaining that "how come it was so hot/humid while on TV they said it was going to be  cold/rainy..".What TV tells them IS their REALITY.And I have not seen a blue sunny sky all day fro the past few years and people think this is NORMAL..

Okay now on to the  inks:

1-German inventor M.T. Keshe stated in a recent radio interview that his device coudl be put right now in GM cars to replace the motor but that they were not interested
He was interviews on July20th by S. Allan of  http://www.peswiki.com  
 He is of Iranian origin and lives in The Netherlands...His Foundation has the legal control over the device to prevent big companies from stealing t and thus it will be open-source.(?).They were supposed to give a demo this coming August (?!) but now ithas been reported to March 2010..humm ?!
Also see  http://keshespace.com

2-Tariel  Kapaladze , a Georgian inventor, has a free  100kW energy device Maybe this is the  why the Russians recently went to war with Georgia ?
http://www.tmzenerji.com  (link is presently broken) so go here:

http://www.peswiki.com   and do a SEARCH for Directory:Kapanadze Free Energy Generator..

Also look up for the latest news on the peswiki main page.. in infos dated July 24th

3-REM Resources- an electro-magnetic  motor(Remgen) invented by Troy and later with help of his cousin Michael reed-demos coming this August and production this fall- device under $10,000 and you power up your home for next to free..
And yes she too has had parts of his inventions stolen,treaths etc..etc..

See http://peswiki.com  main page.July 24th...under RemGen ready for production;demo in August.

Funny but inventors that have working models get treaths,harassments from governmental agencies and the like and zero fundings..

P.S FREE ENERGY,natural curing health products are Rothschilds et al Achille's heel If these 2 basic sources of income disappear from their control then it is the END of these minions and the beginning of accountability for them...
I do hope people in Europe will support inventors over there.As for Canada,forget about it..people have a very short memory span :ex prices of fruits/vegetables have doubled as compared to last year and all we get from Joe public is a big yawn..

MikeWB

So many cranks on this list. Why are you trying to mar Ogster with bullshit? So that others can easily ignore him when they see who else he's interviewing? Do you realize what the core purpose of this website is? How the heck does any of this tie into Zionism?
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joeblow

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rey2010

To Mike WB- simply go to the LINKS and listen to their interviews and THEN DECIDE.. Is that asking too much ? May I remind you that many rational skeptics are in fact CIA agents/governmental shills..When confronted with real evidence/data/product they will take  a leave of absence..!

Zionists/bankers thrive on $$$ not HOT AIR..Why do you think they go after real inventors,humm ?
Only by public action on a large scale will we be able to defeat these people.Loudmouths like Alex Jones just put out hot air and he will NEVER offer a solution-in the many years I had listened to him he never proposed real solutions...
.Jeff Rense with all his faults is much better than him..He supported LARRY SINCLAIR and yes his radio network  went down for many days as a result and he  got kicked out of GCN...

Jones real face was during the Katrina disaster over New Orleans-outside talking his mouth off what did he do ?Never went there to do an on air-live radio show etc..

He covered the 2008 Democratic convention which essentially was a no show(and missed the police brutality..)and too tired to cover the Republican one..He to this day has never interviewed LARRY SINCLAIR...

MikeWB

Isn't there someone more qualified to discuss these free energy and other crank idea devices? Why the heck does Og need to get his name associated with what's most probably bullshit? How will Og exactly help their cause when he's not an expert on this stuff and would have to spend weeks studying their claims and even then, he will only mar his name by handling this tar baby? How will Og prove or disprove these devices are real when even the inventors don't have them "because the gov or oil industry has stolen them, killed their inventors, UFO landed in their back yard and taken device onboard, dog ate the blueprints one day, men in black came to their place of employment and taken their jobs away from them and so on"?

 Og's clearly an expert on Zionism, not this crank stuff. Seriously, by pushing this, are you trying to discredit his previous Zionist research?

Pass this to your free energy, car running on water, plane flying  on extraterrestrial tech etc. buddies: http://www.progressiveautoxprize.org/  

From the claims that we've seen that came out of that community, they can win this $10 million prize by demonstrating only a fraction of their claims! If they can run a car on water that uses no gas whatsoever, they can surely beat the 100 MPG requirement since their car uses no gas!!! Right?
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abduLMaria

Quote from: "MikeWB"Isn't there someone more qualified to discuss these free energy and other crank idea devices?

i'm qualified but i'm not interested - learning about Real World History is much more interesting (you know, the kind where people tell the truth about IsraHell)

i've seen this happen once with a piece of software, where a large finite element software firm bought a competitor and discontinued their product.  which was a bummer for me because i had 10 years of training in that product.

as far as energy ideas that get side-tracked, one that interest me is ground-effects heating & cooling.  this is big in Europe.  the basic idea is, the ground stays at a fairly constant 55 degrees F, about 15 C, year round.  so what they do in Finland for example is run pipes through the ground & blow air through them.  that's good for heating when the outside temp is -20 C.

it takes a lot less energy to blow air than to cool air.  obviously, this technique could be used in, for example, Texas, for air conditioning, but it would require a major re-vamping of building codes and a major re-write of Homeowner Association codes.

so there are technologies that are major energy savers, neither hidden nor secret, that don't get used at large because it will take a major investment to deal with f'ing bureaucracy.

in other words, the obstacles to the implementation of ground effects are not technical, they are bureaucratic.  then, if you're dealing with an HOA, you're dealing with an organization with a sense of entitlement that expects you to pay for their health care.
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LordLindsey

Thank you very much, Abdul, for your important comment.  It seems that people miss the point sometimes of touching-on subjects that seem "out there" and that is a real shame because it is shown without a doubt that technology IS suppressed, and that is a very important issue for many people, including myself.

I don't know about those guests who this guy would like to see on TIU, but the idea is not a bad idea at all.  I am not sure how much of a conversation would take-place because TIU is more about the fight against criminals Zionism and the peripheral effects of life in a ZOG, but I like the idea of having more information about information/technology suppression on TIU, even if "I" wouldn't understand it!

LINDSEY

NB:  While Larry Sinclair makes for wonderful entertainment, I REALLY don't think that this is anything that TIU should get near.  I noticed a very "large" in-consistency in Larry's story while Soetoro was on the campaign-trail, and I'm not going to say any more about that because it's embarrassing.  After that, I knew that Larry was either very wrong or lying, and that is all that there is to this.
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rey2010

For Mike WB  I am unsure what is your reasoning by pointing out as an "honest broker" a group controlled  by the Rothschilds(re Tavistock Institute) ! How naive can one be !

Do you really think that "science' is independent ?! As more than 80%(+) of  University grants come directly from BIG COMPANIES(and we know who controls them)..

Many devices were dismissed from entering the contest as they did not meet "specifications"...

Also how do you think the Rothschilds/zionists make their make ? By publishing books?.By investing in the casino style stock markets run by them ?
These people acquire HARD ASSETS-meaning property,ressources,infrastructures,manufacturing facilities.. etc..managing the herd(re contracts that bind people like in the entertainment,sport,etc..t industries,etc..)

I will tell you one thing if Europeans would have a choice of paying 5 euros per liters or 1 cents per liter-do you not think that they would go that way ? And if it is made known that zionists etc are preventing this emerging technology...just this can do a lot more than reading tens of books as to how bad the Rothschilds are and will be in the future-shills like AlexJones  solution is "buy my fear mongering videos"...

People in Europe ought to go to  http://www.geet.nl  -site run by Paul Pantone son;this technology is right now being implemented  in Europe...

Yes, many bogus inventors but they tend to be promoted by shills,unreliables etc..and the government leave this fraudsters alone while going after the real inventor of the device as it has happened in Paul Pantone case..Same patterns for the health industry as well  -see Greg Caton's case  http://www.altcancer.com

Do go to  http://www.blogtalkradio.com  do a search for "waterfuelmuseum" run by James Robey.. He has over the years interview many  inventors/researchers..

Last point in regards to LARRY SINCLAIR- those saying that he lied,unreliable are SHILLS/proto-zionists/sllers(zionists) and supporters of OBAMA.There is no compromising here..Go to LARRY SINCLAIR website and find out yourself..
http://larrysinclair-0926.blogspot.com

rey

N.B. a trick  that has been used in Forums is to start an argument but never visiting the URLinks that the adverse party point to..and get into an argument of me vs he, who is the more credible..These dividers KNOW their stuff as most people are too lazy even to click on a LINK

MikeWB

rey2010, you still don't get it. This site is about Zionism, not crank bullshit. Is that so hard to comprehend??? Go ask Rense to cover this nonsense... he has no credibility left and no one takes him seriously so he will give these cranks airtime.

Time to look at misdirection techniques again:

viewtopic.php?f=4&t=4198
QuoteTechnique #3 - 'TOPIC DILUTION'

Topic dilution is not only effective in forum sliding it is also very useful in keeping the forum readers on unrelated and non-productive issues. This is a critical and useful technique to cause a 'RESOURCE BURN.' By implementing continual and non-related postings that distract and disrupt (trolling ) the forum readers they are more effectively stopped from anything of any real productivity. If the intensity of gradual dilution is intense enough, the readers will effectively stop researching and simply slip into a 'gossip mode.' In this state they can be more easily misdirected away from facts towards uninformed conjecture and opinion. The less informed they are the more effective and easy it becomes to control the entire group in the direction that you would desire the group to go in. It must be stressed that a proper assessment of the psychological capabilities and levels of education is first determined of the group to determine at what level to 'drive in the wedge.' By being too far off topic too quickly it may trigger censorship by a forum moderator.

So, basically, by going after these topics, Ogster's time will be spent on researching bullshit he can never prove and take his limited time away from actual stuff that matters and can be proven! Every day there's more theft and looting and this stuff can be proven since it's covered by many sources. The biggest theft in he history is taking place and you want us to concentrate on bullshit?

rey2010, wake up!
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jai_mann

Rey2010 you seem to have a firm grasp on the problems with top down controlled academia and business. As far as inventors go the only one that I am familiar with that you mentioned is Paul Pantone and from my own research, minus any replications, he appears to be 100% legit. I've seen more than enough demonstrations on youtube where no camera trickery or shenanigans could has possibly been pulled. The county south of the one I grew up in in Maryland has a county commisioner, Larry Jarboe, who has replicated the GEET device and publicly demonstrated it at numerous events. There are a number of youtube video's up from energy fair events that he has been hosting on his farm land for the last few years. Look up 'Palsness". That fellow has video's up of his Tesla hairpin circuit. It's the most primitive radiant/cold energy (ether) device that Tesla made and he used it for demonstrations for over 30 years. Palsness happened to find the circuit in a hard to find book by Tesla. It ain't in any his patent office stuff.

The funny thing is, this free energy thing has been bubbling beneath the surface for the last few years. It's gonna break through and people will have to accept it when they see demonstrations (they'll have no fucking clue how it works because they haven't been CONDITIONED as to how the phenomena works.). I've already seen three demonstrations of the hairpin circuit on youtube. 2 with people putting the lightbulbs in water and touching the leads under water. The transverse wave component gets split off at a spark gap while longitudinal wave component lights the bulb.

All of that aside I would personally back getting an interview with Paul Pantone. The man is 100% legit in my book. If I can get in touch with Palsness I'll see if he will do an interview (if Ognir is interested). He is a classically trained electrical engineer and unlike his peers he decided to heavily investigate the internet buzz about "radiant energy". He's very well read in Tesla's work and the man has found valuable BASIC instructional tools to demonstrate a phenomenon to others.

Here's links to demonstrations by Palsness, of Tesla's Hairpin radiant circuit, at Larry Jarboe's mill this summer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsS0BeVeIwM

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_q ... rpin+tesla

abduLMaria

Quote from: "LordLindsey"Thank you very much, Abdul, for your important comment.  It seems that people miss the point sometimes of touching-on subjects that seem "out there" and that is a real shame because it is shown without a doubt that technology IS suppressed, and that is a very important issue for many people, including myself.

thanks.

i don't mean it's a waste of time to try & understand inventions related to thermosciences.  it's just that it does take time to get to see the invention closely enough to understand it - which many inventors are reluctant to do, until they get it protected & launched.

one thing each of these devices share - they still have to deal with laws of conservation of energy which us mere mortals still find ourselves bound by.

another interesting example of competing technologies being destroyed for profit is the buy-up of light-rail (public transit) systems in the US in the 1950's.  those light rail systems were dis-assembled largely, by their new owners - financed by US auto & oil companies.

of course, this was good not only for the auto & oil business ... it was also 'good' for the insurance companies and the medical industry.  auto accidents are very profitable - for some people.
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MikeWB

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See, this is what I'm talking about. How can you trust a guy who blatantly lies in the first 5 min? That toy he says cannot be explained is just a simple rattleback. It's well known how it works. But it's a mystery to him.  :lol:
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rey2010

To Jai Mann- thanks  for the infos- yes Larry Jarboe is real contrary to what some might think like Mike WB..

In fact James Robey of Waterfuel Museum,on one fohis recent radioshow on http://www.blogtalkradio.com talked to ERIC the skepticre Krieg)(famous engineer ?!) about free energy-needless to say Eric,although he was invited to one of Larry  Jarboe's free energy(!) venue could not find the time to attend nor to examine a free energy device that he could come and have alook at it..(by special arrangements,etc..)

This is how skeptics work-when push come to shove welll they desist until a better day...(when an idiotic fraudster is found which there are alas no lacking of..)

As stated earlier zionists et al ,bankers are behind the suppression of free energy devices..and are now pushing solar power from space,connecting the Mediterranean of the Dead Sea by a canal to bring water which is completly idiotic-see Barry Chamish =one of his recent interview on this-  http://www.radioliberty.com  -this project is unscientically unsound and an ecological catastrophe in the making and naturally the greens are supporting it !

Zionist leaders in Israel are not interested in devices that can get water from the air so it goes to show you how much these people love their Israeli citizens..

These zionist leaders in Israel arein the pockets of other bigger players and they are pushing the Israeli politicans to dissolve the Israeli state so a BIG MEDITERRANEAN UNION can be set up-this is their goal and that Union wll be under the tutelage of the EU which wwould  have a cheap  access to vast oil fields without relying on the  "russkies"
As for the Israeli jews well they(leaders) would morph into being the hand/man behind the throne..

Also the EU woudf get  boost of cheap "Arab" labor to keep the native Europeans worker demands in check..And promises of cheap oil/gas in order to accept it would just remain so...

jai_mann

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Quote from: "jai_mann"[youtube:3ndsj5dq]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsS0BeVeIwM[/youtube]3ndsj5dq]



See, this is what I'm talking about. How can you trust a guy who blatantly lies in the first 5 min? That toy he says cannot be explained is just a simple rattleback. It's well known how it works. But it's a mystery to him.  :lol:


By going into watching the video with a closed mind to the experimental PROOF of Tesla's radiant energy (aka cold energy/pure longitudinal waves/scalar waves/dirac's sea of negative energy) you either skipped the rest of the video or missed the details of the circuit with regard to the demonstration of the hairpin circuit. Do you have an explanation as to why this "liar" didn't kill himself in front of the audience when he gripped the bars of the circuit? If so, I would guess that it would have something to do with parlor tricks. There are other people demonstrating this effect on youtube. The circuit comes from Tesla, who's integrity and work speaks to his character. If you fully watch the demonstration, the replications, and consider who the circuit originated from then I would hope that you would dig a little deeper. As it stands, empiricism is the only issue that matters when it comes to real science and this very simple, cheap circuit will allow for many replications of the demonstrated, unique phenomenon discovered by Tesla. I'll be demonstrating it in a month or so when I get the time. Hell, if you want, I'll put a rat or a squirrel across the top bars to show that it lives because the transverse waves have been split off from the longitudinal waves. Then I can drop it on to the pre-splitting part and let it fry. Hey it would be in the name of science... :twisted:

rey2010

To Mike WB

Humm,you are mistaking here-- Karl Palness was at the AEPC 2009 show not at some open garage stuff to try to fleece up potential investors.. this event has been on going since 2007 with help of one Larry Jarboe,county commissioner..

So lots of experts there to see if any shenanigans..

see http://www.altenergy2012.com     or do a google search for that name-- I am presently having problems with my pc running under Open  Suse linux 11.1 and their latest kernel update(released in June) makes a mess-slower pc,audio going dead etc..many programs not working anymore,internet connection difficulties,bug report crashes,.... etc..

rey2010

In regards to some skeptics and alike of free energy being a non issue well if you listen  to Alan Watt.his radio,show #370 July 22nd 2009 "Malthusian Ecology for Global Economy" he mentions thse quotes mad e by "greenies" which are right on target..

  http://www.cuttingthroughthematrix.com  show July 23rd CLICK on "Quotes from the Environment Community  at

http://peopleforwesternheritage.com/PFW ... Quotes.htm

1-"Complex technology of any sort is an assault on human dignity.It would be little short of disastrous for us to discover a source of clean,cheap.abundant energy because of what we might do with it:.
Amory Lovins,Rocky Mountain Institute

2-"The prospect of cheap fusion energy is the worst thing that could happen to the planet"
Jeremy Rifkin,Greenhouse Crisis Foundation

3-"Giving society cheap ,abundant energy,would be the equivalent of giving an idiot child a machine gun".
Paul Ehrlich,Stanford University

And check up other quotes by these luminaries but the sad fact is that these leaders of ecology are DEAD SERIOUS about their agenda..

MikeWB

All this free energy "research" is just a bunch of bullshit. If these guys had something that actually works, why don't they build a device that actually produces energy? Will they get killed by the government? They're all delusional.

As for not watching that video, gimme a break, I don't have time to waste on BS and nonsense. I watched 5 minutes of it and the guy didn't even know what a fucking rattleback is or was purposely trying to deceive people and told everyone how no one knows how this thing works (he didn't want to even give it a name so others can google it). He says that it's "unexplainable". Oh yeah??? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rattleback  No one knows???  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

Keep on wasting your time on bullshit while the Rome is burning and Zios are stealing everything that moves. Keep on expecting breakthroughs from people who don't even know how a rattleback works.  :lol: All these guys would save themselves years of work if they just learned one basic thing about physical world: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_law_ ... modynamics

Spend your time on researching what Zios are gonna do to you and spend the time learning how to fire a gun and start learning how to grow your own food. That's gonna be more important in 2 years time than free energy nonsense that will never produce a single excess watt of energy. Get yourself a real generator for emergencies because none of this crap coming from these cranks will ever work.

Riots are coming as the unemployment is increasing every month and we'll soon reach a critical mass and there will be riots on the streets. None of this shit will matter then and only thing that will matter is educating all these rioters as to who's behind it all. That's all that matters and that's what you should be spending your time on.
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jai_mann

Quote from: "MikeWB"All this free energy "research" is just a bunch of bullshit. If these guys had something that actually works, why don't they build a device that actually produces energy? Will they get killed by the government? They're all delusional.

Tesla, Dirac, Laplace, Dayton, et al. were delusional?

Quote from: "MikeWB"Keep on wasting your time on bullshit while the Rome is burning and Zios are stealing everything that moves. Keep on expecting breakthroughs from people who don't even know how a rattleback works.  :lol: All these guys would save themselves years of work if they just learned one basic thing about physical world: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_law_ ... modynamics

Unfortunately, the law of thermodynamics is loosely thrown around in cases where it doesn't apply. It has contexts in which it is applicable and contexts in which it is not applicable. Think they're going to teach you that in school?

Quote from: "MikeWB"Spend your time on researching what Zios are gonna do to you and spend the time learning how to fire a gun and start learning how to grow your own food. That's gonna be more important in 2 years time than free energy nonsense that will never produce a single excess watt of energy. Get yourself a real generator for emergencies because none of this crap coming from these cranks will ever work.

I've yet to hear any one on here other than senior cracksmokingrepublican say he's armed. If people don't already have ammo then they may as well fucking forget about it because we're going on practically 9 months of dried up ammo. I already have a wide selection of seed stock to choose from and I've been a grower since I was a child so that's covered.

When there's real emergencies, where is the fuel going to come from to run the emergency generators? How many of you even have emergency gasoline supplies set aside and prepped for long term storage? What will be done if/when rioters gone bonkers hear the generator running and get jealous that someone still has something that they took for granted up until recently? My bases have been covered and my hope is to get around many of the problems presented by outdated methods of energy production which is why I spend my time focusing on that which isn't indoctrinated in the schools.

Quote from: "MikeWB"Riots are coming as the unemployment is increasing every month and we'll soon reach a critical mass and there will be riots on the streets. None of this shit will matter then and only thing that will matter is educating all these rioters as to who's behind it all. That's all that matters and that's what you should be spending your time on.

Unfortunately, there isn't going to be much educating of rioters. Their cognitive state is going to be such that they won't give a shit about who's responsible as much as they will care about putting food in their belly and potentially acquiring newly worthless material items. So we agree to disagree on the energy issue. At least all of our eggs aren't in one basket.  :mrgreen:

scorpio

Quote from: "MikeWB"None of this shit will matter then and only thing that will matter is educating all these rioters as to who's behind it all. That's all that matters and that's what you should be spending your time on.

Must be wonderful having all of the secrets of the universe figured out as you do. :lol:
I dont think anyone needs advice from you about how they should be spending their time.
 You are starting to sound  like a self appointed master to me!
 That's just my opinion....

Scorpio11

MikeWB

Quote from: "scorpio11"
Quote from: "MikeWB"None of this shit will matter then and only thing that will matter is educating all these rioters as to who's behind it all. That's all that matters and that's what you should be spending your time on.

Must be wonderful having all of the secrets of the universe figured out as you do. :lol:
I dont think anyone needs advice from you about how they should be spending their time.
 You are starting to sound  like a self appointed master to me!
 That's just my opinion....

Scorpio11
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If you want to waste your time on bullshit, go right ahead but don't waste OUR time as well! Feel free to find a forum where bullshit is the main course. However, on TiU, we don't waste our time on bullshit conspiracies when there's a PROVABLE, REAL and also a GIGANTIC one right in front of our eyes. The only conspiracy that matters! If you haven't been clued in by now, here it is again: we're mostly interested in ZIONISM and its influence on the world. We also dabble in other political and financial conspiracies but we don't waste our time on UFOs, ghosts, lizard men, free energy and other total fucking nonsense. All that other shit is populated by a lot of Zio agents who manufacture all this nonsense and divert their actions on bullshit groups. Until these cranks can make and sell us a device that actually does something of value, I don't give a damn what they have to say or show. It's all bullshit and nonsense until they prove it. Tell these people to do something amazing (like drive a car cross country with no fuel) and we'll pay attention to them. Until then they're just a bunch of delusional cranks that don't play with a full deck.

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