The rabbi who started the Knights Templars

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November 21, 2009, 10:29:37 AM
The rabbi who started the Knights Templars

From the book "Dynasty of the Holy Grail: Mormonism's Sacred Bloodline"



From the book "The Templars and the Grail: knights of the quest"

CrackSmokeRepublican

#1
November 21, 2009, 01:40:34 PM
Very interesting Joe Blow.

I found this book "Chronologia-Rorispergius"
in a search for Bogomilism, Chatharism and "Rashi".  It mentions Rashi in a chronology.  It seems the Cathars originated about 100-150 years after the First Crusades from the Knights returning. But they existed in the East (Bogomils) before the Great Schism.
   
http://www.scribd.com/doc/15200791/Chro ... rispergius
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Rahsi Family Tree (note the origination of the Luria Family line):
http://www.loebtree.com/rashi.html
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Rashi family tree

Each item on this list represents a generation.

 107. Shlomo ?
 108. Itzhak TZARFARTI (d. Abt 1060 Worms, Germany) married ?? KALONYMOS sister of R. Simeon the Great of Mainz, and daughter of Itzhak KALONYMOS (d. 960 Mainz) son of Rabbi Abun KALONYMOS son of Meshulam KALONYMOS son of Klonimus KALONYMOS son of Moshe KALONYMOS (d. 870 Lucca, Italy, d. 940 Mainz, Germany) son of Kalonymos son of Meshulam KALONYMOS son of Kalonymos BEN YEHUDA.
      Itzhak TZARFARTI rRefused to sell a jewel he owned as a decoration for the Madonna. Although the local Christians were willing to pay a great price for it, he preferred to throw it away rather than see it become a part of idolaterous worship. As a reward, he was granted a son of the calibre of Rashi, who became a living spirtual jewel. One day when Rashi's mother was pregnant with him, she was almost run down by a crusader, but a niche opened up miraculously in a nearby wall and she was able to shelter there. This wall later become a well-known landmark.
 109. [1] Rashi: Rabbi Solomon ben Isaac (b. 1040 Troyes/Champagne, France, d. 1105 Troyes/Champagne, France) married Batisaak daughter of Isaak BENABUN. They lived in France. Rashi wrote well known concise commentary on the bible. Three daughters:
          * [4] Jochaved (below)
          * [3] Miriam Miriam married R. Yehuda ben Natan (RIBAN) (b. 1065).
                o [6] R. Tosafist Yom Tov of Falais (b. 1090 Falais, d. 1140)
                      + [14] Dolce (d. 1196 Erfurt, Germany) m. Eliezer.
                      + [15] Rabbi Yehuda (b. 1115) father of [28] Yitzhak (b. 114x?) father of [34] Yehuda Shir Leon of Paris (1166-1224) father of the [38] wife of [39] Ashkenazi Matityahu, II TREIVISH (TREVES).
          * [2] Rachel married Eliezer Belle Asses JOCELIN. Son: Rabbi Shemaya JOCELIN
      The three daughters were scholars in their own right, helped their father with his writings, and at least one of which wore tefilin.
      Schlock Rock wrote a song about Rashi.

          Who was born in France and sent to Yeshiva
          studied in Worms and on his return
          he founded a school and wrote commentaries?
          Everyone knows it's Rashi.
          Whose words are written under the Chumash,
          the inside of every page of Talmud?
          Whose three daughters married great scholars?
          Everyone knows it's Rashi.
          And Rashi was so concise, and in his own script did write.
          And if you want to know why just look inside.

 110. [4] Jochaved BAT SALOMON (b. 1065 Troyes, France) married Rabbi Hayashish Meir ben Samuel (b. 1065 Mainz, Germany, d. 1135).
          * [7] Ribam (Rabbi Isaac II ben Meir) (b. Ramerupt, d. Regensburg, Germany)
          * [8] Hanah or Hanale(b. 1080) married Shmuel ben Simcha.
          * [9] Yaakov (Rabbenu Tam) (b. 1096 Ramerupt, France, d. 9 Jun. 1171 Troyes, France) m. Miriam bat Yosef. Yaakov remarried. Thanks to their descendant [688] Benjamin ANGEL Benjamin.Angel at cec.eu.int for information on the descendants of RASHI. (The bracketed numbers are references to his list of 1,612 descendants of RASHI.)
          * [10] Shlomo
          * [11] Miriam m. ??? son of Simcha ben Samuel.
          * Rashbam (Shmuel) (b. 1080 Ramerupt, France, d. 1158)
      Jochaved remarried ???.
 111. [7] Isaac BEN MEIR (RIBAM) (b. Ramerupt, d. Regensburg, Germany). After his death, his wife remarried [15] Yehudah.
 112. [16] Isaac's daughter (b. Treves) married Rabbi Jechiel TREVES, the posek (d. 1189 Paris) son of Rabbi Matityahu Hagadol TREVES (d. 1150).
 113. [29] Mosche TREVES, II (b. Treves, d. 1230 Paris)
 114. [35] Rabbi Porat Joseph TREVES (b. Treves)
 115. [39] Rabbi Matityahu TREVES (ASHKENAZI), II (b. Treves) married [38] the daughter of Rabbi Yehuda of Paris (b. 1115) [son of Yom Tov (b. 1090, d. ca. 1140 Paris) the son of Miriam and Judah (b. 1065 Mainz, d. ca. 1105) ben Nathan] and the daughter (or maybe just descendant...) of Rabbi Isaac BEN MEIR (RIBAM).
          * Vergentlin TREVES married R. Shmuel SPIRA
          * [41] Abraham TREVES (below).
          * [42] Yechiel TREVES, II (b. 1206, d. 1268 Acre, Palestine). Son: Porat Yosef, V (b. Treves).
 116. [41] Rabbi Abraham (Avrahami) TREVES
 117. [44] Rabbi (TREVESIAN) Jochanan (Yahanan I) Ashkenazi TREVES (b. Abt 1265 Treves, d. Worms, Germany). Left France between 1285 and 1314 during the expulsion of Jews by Philippe IV and settled in Germany where he acquired the surname Ashkenazi.
 118. [52] Rabbi Joseph (Yosef V) Hagadol TZORFATI-TREVES (b. 1305, d. 1350 or 1370). President of Rabbinical Tribunal of Marseilles. His wife was very educated and explained many passages of the talmud. Their family was not required to wear the distinctive signs of Jews.
 119. [64] Chief Rabbi Matityahu TREVES V (b. 1325, d. 1387 Paris). Chief Rabbi in France. President of Rabbinical Court in Paris and France. He married the daughter of Rabbi Samuel SPIRA =?= Menassier DE VESOUL.
          * Khana (Vergentin) married Shmuel SHAPIRA . Their son Shlomo SHAPIRA was the father of Peretz SHAPIRA (from whom the SHAPIRA family descends) and Miriam who married Aharon LURIA (from whom the LURIA family descends). Contact Jeffrey Mark PAULL woolfj@mail.biu.ac.il who is a descendant of Rashi via the HEILPRIN's and the HELLER's.)
 121. unknown BALLIN
 122. unknown BALLIN
 123. Elias BALLIN
 124. Moses Elias BALLIN
 125. Elias Moses BALLIN (b. Worms, d. 27 March 1587 Worms)
 126. Eliezer Sussmann BALLIN (d. 1601 Worms)
 127. Samuel Abraham BALLIN (d. 4 April 1622 Worm), married Gutrad WORMS daughter of Eliezar WORMS.
 128. Frummet BALLIN (b. Worms, d. 26 Jan 1649 Frankfurt) married Josef (Juda) Loeb OPPENHEIMER (d. 1655)


There may be a relation here (CSR):
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Isaac Ben Solomon Luria
(1534-1572)
by Shira Schoenberg

The 16th century Kabbalist, Rabbi Isaac Ben Solomon Luria revolutionized the study of Jewish mysticism through Kabbalah. Luria, also known as Isaac Ashkenazi, attracted a large number of followers who gave him the title of "HaAri," The Lion, because of the initials of the phrase "haeloki Rabbi Yitzhak" – the divine Rabbi Yitzhak.

Luria was born in Jerusalem in 1534 to German parents. His father died when he was young, and Luria was brought up by his mother in the house of her brother, Mordecai Frances, a wealthy tax-farmer. In Egypt, Luria studied Jewish law and rabbinic literature under Rabbi David ben Solomon ibn Abi Zimra and Zimra's successor, Bezalel Ashkenazi. Luria's teachers considered him outstanding in non_mystical study and he collaborated with Ashkenazi on shitah mekubbetzet, a work on Jewish law based on Tractate Zevachim in the Talmud. In addition to study, Luria earned a living through commerce.

When Luria was 15 years old, he married his cousin. He spent approximately six years studying with Ashkenazi, then moved to Jazirat al-Rawda, a secluded island on the Nile that was owned by his father-in-law. He visited his family only on the Sabbath and the few words he spoke were always in Hebrew, directed solely to his wife. During this period, he concentrated his studies on the Zohar and the works of earlier Kabbalists. He was also particularly interested in his contemporary, Kabbalist Moses Cordovero. It was at this time that Luria wrote his commentary on the Sifra Di-Zenivta section of the Zohar. Luria believed that deceased teachers of the past spoke to him and that he had frequent interviews with Elijah the prophet.

In one of these "interviews," Luria believed that Elijah instructed him to move to the land of Israel, so, in 1569, he moved to Safed where he studied Kabbalah with Cordovero until Cordovero's death in 1570.

Luria originally won fame as a mystical poet. He later started teaching Kabbalah in an academy, and would occasionally speak in Ashkenazi synagogues. He was friendly with other Safed scholars, and formed a group of Kabbalists who met each Friday to confess their sins to each other. He revealed to his disciples the locations of graves of rabbis that he claimed to have discovered through spiritual revelations. He taught his students orally, teaching both theoretical Kabbalah and methods to communicate with the souls of tazddikim (righteous people). He felt that he could see people's sins by looking at their foreheads. On the Sabbath, he dressed in white and many followers considered him a saint. Some say he believed himself to be the Messiah, the son of Joseph.

Luria was known for his innovative ideas in understanding creation and various other metaphysical concepts. He created the idea of zimzum, the belief that God in a way "shrunk himself" to leave a void in which to create the world. He was conservative in interpreting Jewish law and believed that each commandment had a mystical meaning. He respected all strains of tradition and customs in Judaism and although he was of Ashkenazic descent, preferred Sephardic prayer liturgy. Lurianic Kabbalah refers often to Messianism and many say that his Messianic ideas paved the way for the false Messiah, Shabbetai Zvi.

Luria died in an epidemic in the summer of 1572 and was buried in Safed. His teachings were recorded by his disciples, particularly Rabbi Chaim Vital. Books on his work include: Ez Hayyim, Shulhan Aruch Shel R. Yizhak Luria, Orhot Zaddikim and Patora de Abba.

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jso ... Luria.html
After the Revolution of 1905, the Czar had prudently prepared for further outbreaks by transferring some $400 million in cash to the New York banks, Chase, National City, Guaranty Trust, J.P.Morgan Co., and Hanover Trust. In 1914, these same banks bought the controlling number of shares in the newly organized Federal Reserve Bank of New York, paying for the stock with the Czar\'s sequestered funds. In November 1917,  Red Guards drove a truck to the Imperial Bank and removed the Romanoff gold and jewels. The gold was later shipped directly to Kuhn, Loeb Co. in New York.-- Curse of Canaan

Timothy_Fitzpatrick

#2
November 21, 2009, 02:52:31 PM
great post joe!
Fitzpatrick Informer:

joeblow

#3
November 21, 2009, 03:03:26 PM
Quote from: "Timothy_Fitzpatrick"great post joe!

Coming from the most hated anti-Zionist at the Pirate Bay, it is indeed a great compliment.

CrackSmokeRepublican

#4
November 21, 2009, 03:54:58 PM
Have you ever heard of this book "Order of the Dragon" -- it mentions a loose relationship between Cathars and Knights Templar :

http://clementsebooks.com/cdcpdfs/Order ... kodcp1.pdf

I read a few pages. Worth a look.
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 Clements E Books     
      
   THE ORDER OF THE DRAGON    
   CHAPTER 1:           THE OLDEST ORDER    
   CHAPTER 2:           THE JOURNEY OUT OF THE CAVE    
   CHAPTER 3:           CAIN'S CITIES    
   CHAPTER 4:           THE PRINCE WHO OPPOSED    
   CHAPTER 5:           OUT OF EPHESUS    
   CHAPTER 6:           THE STAND OF THE PYRENEES    
   CHAPTER 7:           THE STAND OF THE TEMPLARS    
   CHAPTER 8:           THE DEMONIZATION OF THE RECONSTITUTED ORDER    
   CHAPTER 9:           THE FREEMASON STRATEGY    
   CHAPTER 10:         THE CULTURE WAR    
   CHAPTER 11:         MESSAGES ACROSS TIME    
   CHAPTER 12:         LINES THROUGH TIME    
   REFERENCES
After the Revolution of 1905, the Czar had prudently prepared for further outbreaks by transferring some $400 million in cash to the New York banks, Chase, National City, Guaranty Trust, J.P.Morgan Co., and Hanover Trust. In 1914, these same banks bought the controlling number of shares in the newly organized Federal Reserve Bank of New York, paying for the stock with the Czar\'s sequestered funds. In November 1917,  Red Guards drove a truck to the Imperial Bank and removed the Romanoff gold and jewels. The gold was later shipped directly to Kuhn, Loeb Co. in New York.-- Curse of Canaan

Jenny Lake

#5
November 29, 2009, 06:42:49 PM
Wow --CSR! the Order of the Dragon seems incalculably insightful into the struggling forces of medievaldom. I'm in sync with the subject here and have been looking at the history of drugs --noting right away the Balkan Drugunthiae (interpreting this as the High Dragons) and root word for drugs (dragons). Thanks, you and Joe for this posting.
Just at face-value of the genealogies --Rabbi Luria's descendant, biologist Salvador Luria, was a teammate at the University of Rome with a Treves descendent (from his mother),physicist Emilio Segre --both men came to the US in the preWWII relocation and had worked under Enrico Fermi. Luria, who left Europe later than the others, left a story of his escape about riding a bicycle to Marseilles until he could get passage. Segre, on the other hand, was well out of harm's way --in 1939 he had a job at UCBerkeley working with Glen Seaborg's team on the creation of plutonium --odd fact that Seaborg is the only person recorded to have ever actually 'made' gold out of a base metal.

Jenny Lake

#6
November 30, 2009, 04:20:10 AM
The Order of the Dragon link is the introduction only --18 pages. The author is likely well indoctrinated --found quite a bit of contestable allusions in this opener and I'm thinking this is dated --to, maybe 1950s or 60s? Interesting nonetheless as having philosophical value.

CrackSmokeRepublican

#7
November 30, 2009, 09:46:09 PM
Hi Jenny,
I didn't get that far into the book but it had some interesting allusions.  It looks more related to the origins of "myths" and "mythic legends" than a real deep dive into the topic of freemasonary. I think you are right on it being a bit dated.
After the Revolution of 1905, the Czar had prudently prepared for further outbreaks by transferring some $400 million in cash to the New York banks, Chase, National City, Guaranty Trust, J.P.Morgan Co., and Hanover Trust. In 1914, these same banks bought the controlling number of shares in the newly organized Federal Reserve Bank of New York, paying for the stock with the Czar\'s sequestered funds. In November 1917,  Red Guards drove a truck to the Imperial Bank and removed the Romanoff gold and jewels. The gold was later shipped directly to Kuhn, Loeb Co. in New York.-- Curse of Canaan

Jenny Lake

#8
December 05, 2009, 03:04:48 AM
...well, CSR, if you find more about the book or the author, I hope you'll post it. Think I'll go look around the library and see if it's in my local system --if not, there's always the online purchase option but I never do that. This has had the effect of giving me a spark.
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