Thoughts on Clifford Shack?

Started by CrackSmokeRepublican, January 05, 2010, 01:16:14 AM

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CrackSmokeRepublican

I've been reading over Clifford Shack's site recently and have found some items of interest concerning JFK.  I get the feeling though that he is another "Jim Marrs" type that has everything set up as "secret Nazis" running things behind the scenes.  Unlike Jim Condit and other writers, he doesn't pull the threads together bridging the movements in WWI and WWII around Zionism.

Anybody hear anything conclusive about him? He does have a few items to look at but I'm getting the opinion he is either ignorant and deluded about the Jew-Zionist Agenda, or he is a definite AJ type shill.  Thoughts?

Here's a couple of items from his website.
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...a book by Morton Halperin and John Marks called the "CIA FILE". It stated the modus operandi of a covert operation is such that the participants are chosen to insure the ultimate secrecy of the project.

The participants are those who would stand to loose if the operation wouldn't be executed in the first place. Not to mention the loss incurred by exposure of the intended operation.

Considering this insight I began looking for a covert operation which included a wide range of multi-agency participation. That being the suspected make-up of the JFK assassination conspiracy.

In other words I was looking for a conspiracy. A big one.

I began my search quite simply.

I thought of the worst crimes committed in this century. At that point I was thinking in general terms- not limiting myself to the U.S. specifically. At the time that seemed like the most logical way to proceed.

I thought that if I came up short in clues with the very worst crime I could think of than I would move on to the second most horrific crime I could think of and proceed that way.

Once set on this course I paused for less than a moment to come up with what I thought was the crime of crimes.

What came to mind quite quickly was...

...the Holocaust.   :shock: (B.S.~~!!!!)

Although the Nazi aggression against the Jews of Europe appeared to me to be unconnected to the assassination of President John F. Kennedy, nevertheless, I adhered to my investigative approach.

I kept an eye open for any possible link or clue.

It was only a matter of a few days when my curiosity was aroused by an intriguing title in my local bookstore . A book called...

"The Unknown Hitler - Behind the Image of History's Darkest Name". The title, at the very least, supported my judgment that the Holocaust was history's worst crime.

As I scanned through the book I saw mention of Hitler's mentor. The booked seemed to delve deeply into Hitler's roots. This ,I thought, would certainly help me in my search for any possibility of linking Hitler to secret U.S. foreign policy. If there weren't any signs at the onset of Hitler's career then perhaps I wouldn't find anything.

The first curiosity I encountered was the fact that Hitler originally came out of the intelligence division of the Reichswehr, the post - WWI German armed forces. According to THE UNKNOWN HITLER, Hitler received an allowance from a secret fund of the Reichwehr Command.

It was in this capacity, as infiltrating intelligence agent, that Hitler first made contact with the fledgling German Workers Party which, in Hitler's words had not yet become solidified into an "organization".

I was struck by Hitler's function as infiltrator. I thought of Cord Meyer Jr. and his International Organization role within the counter-intelligence section of the CIA. (The IO, as it was called, was the "infiltrating arm" of the CIA.)

http://cliffordshack.com/mary/mary16.html

Once infiltrated, the original leaders of the German Workers Party were ousted by Hitler leaving him to lead this little splinter group. Behind this group "stood a mighty political, social and financial patron - The Thule Society. The Thule Society, organized in lodge-fashion, was one of Bavaria's most influential organizations."

The Thule Society had cross-links to the English Brotherhood of the Golden Dawn, to the theosophists of Madame Blavatsky, who was based in New York, and to the notorious magician and adventurer Aleister Crowley.

Incidentally, FDR's coat of arms bore Theosophist symbols on it. According to the book Crimes, Conspiracies and Cover-ups, he was a member of the Masonic group -the Illuminati.

Another suspected member, J.P.Morgan, is oft quoted as saying " Astrology isn't for millionaires. It's for billionaires." This suggests that he was ,also, no stranger to the occult.

In February 1920, "Wild Bill" Donovan, as a lawyer in Buffalo, landed one of the "biggest clients on the planet, John Pierpont Morgan, of the House of Morgan, the leading investment bankers in New York."

In 1923 Donovan, while on assignment in Europe, "materialized" sharing a beer with Adolph Hitler.[Hersh's The Old Boys p.55]

Another interesting fact to come out of THE UNKNOWN HITLER was that his mentor Dietrich Eckart was reported as once being a Rosicrucian and a Free Mason.

I was told that John J. McCloy was an 18th degree Rosicrucian. J. Edgar Hoover and Warren Commissioner Gerald Ford were both Freemasons.


Ernest "Putzi" Hanfstangl was, as his N.Y. Times obit explains, "Hitler's Harvard-educated crony... the piano playing scion of a family of cultivated and prosperous art dealers, was one of Hitler's earliest followers and most energetic propagandists in the 1920's and early 30's."

"Ernst Franz Sedgwick Hanfstangl was born in Munich on Feb. 11, 1887, the son of Edgar Hanfstangl, a wealthy German art dealer and publisher of art books, and Katherine Sedgwick Heine, the Connecticut-born daughter of a Union general in the Civil War."

"He participated in the abortive "beer hall putsch" in Munich in 1923,(That's funny. That's the same year that "Wild Bill" Donovan was in Berchtesgaden sharing a beer with Adolph Hitler."The clammy young rabble-rouser ranted to the sympathetic attorney that he, unlike the family dog, could not be beaten by his father until he wet the carpet."

"Hanfstangl used his social connections to raise money for the Volkische Beobachter, which was to become the principal Nazi daily newspaper."

Newspapers and art galleries. Those subjects remind one of another suspect in the grand scheme...

As I was curious as to the role Hearst played in the alleged conspiracy called the Holocaust I rented the movie "Citizen Kane" to see if I could glean some clues from it. I did. The film contained fictional film clips of Hearst who was of course portrayed by Orson Welles. Of interest to me was the clip showing Hearst meeting with Adolph Hitler!

I thought it important to find proof of such a meeting.

In the book, "The Hearsts: Father and Son" by WRH's son, mention is made of an interview WRH had actually had with Hitler in 1934. Hitler wanted to learn from Hearst how "U.S. public opinion was formed and it's effect on U.S. national policy."

William Randolph Hearst Jr.,the author, continued...

"Ernst "Putzie" Hanfstangl, whose father knew Pop well, had become a hanger-on in the Hitler entourage. My father had purchased many art objects through the elder Hanfstangl and had met the son. Putzie angled hard for the meeting once Pop arrived in Bad Nauheim to take the baths."

"I wanted to attend the meeting, but Pop nixed it."

It is here interesting to note that in 1934, the same year that Hitler met Hearst at Hanfstangl's urging... John J. McCloy also met with Hanstangl!


Paul Cravath

At the time McCloy met with Hanstangl, he was a lawyer working for the law firm of Paul Cravath. Of Paul Cravath it was said by a young associate in his firm,"There were two very formidable figures who used to be seen on Wall Street: J. P. Morgan and Paul D. Cravath, and their derby hats, unlike ours which were nicely rounded, were flat-topped. Their very presence emanated power and instilled awe."

Cravath became nationally known as a defender of the robber barons during Teddy Roosevelt's "trust-busters". Cravath's clients included the House of Morgan, John D. Rockefeller, and the Bank of England.

"Early in his career, Cravath had established a reputation as a lawyer with the mind of a businessman. He cultivated business leaders like George Westinghouse and Jacob Schiff, and soon both Westinghouse Electric and Kuhn,Loeb were his clients."

It is here interesting to note that while McCloy worked for the "defender of the robber barons", Allen Dulles together with his brother Foster, worked for the law firm that "taught the robber barons how to rob"- Sullivan and Cromwell.

Cravath thought "men of wealth and power had special obligations to the community...." In Cravath's case, he began to think of himself as a steward of the country's foreign policy. When the Council on foreign Relations was organized in 1921, Cravath became a director and vice-president. He contributed funds to the Council's publication, FOREIGN AFFAIRS, edited by Hamilton Fish Armstrong.(By the way I recommend "FDR-The other Side of the Coin " by Hamilton Fish. Fish is an ancestor of Alexander Hamilton. I had the priviledge of knowing his grandaughter,"Lexy".)



QuotePaul Cravath

Biography

He graduated from Columbia Law School in 1886 and was awarded first Municipal Law prize and prize tutorship.

He joined the law firm of Blatchford, Seward & Griswold in 1899. His book of business included: Bethlehem Steel, Baltimore and Ohio Railroad, Kuhn, Loeb & Co., Chemical Bank, E. R. Squibb & Sons, Columbia Gas & Electric, Studebaker Corp.[1] His name was added to the firm's moniker in 1901.[2] Cravath was the authoritative head of the firm from 1906 until his death in 1940, and his conceptions of the management of a law office still control its operations.[3]

Paul Cravath was one of the founding officers of the Council on Foreign Relations in 1921. The founding President of the CFR was John W. Davis, a name partner of the law firm Davis Polk & Wardwell, while Cravath served as the inagural Vice-President. Cravath became chairman of the Metropolitan Opera in 1931. He died in 1940.[1]
After the Revolution of 1905, the Czar had prudently prepared for further outbreaks by transferring some $400 million in cash to the New York banks, Chase, National City, Guaranty Trust, J.P.Morgan Co., and Hanover Trust. In 1914, these same banks bought the controlling number of shares in the newly organized Federal Reserve Bank of New York, paying for the stock with the Czar\'s sequestered funds. In November 1917,  Red Guards drove a truck to the Imperial Bank and removed the Romanoff gold and jewels. The gold was later shipped directly to Kuhn, Loeb Co. in New York.-- Curse of Canaan

Christopher Marlowe

The name doesn't ring a bell, but he sounds like a fuckwit.
QuoteOnce set on this course I paused for less than a moment to come up with what I thought was the crime of crimes.

What came to mind quite quickly was...

...the Holocaust. :shock: (B.S.~~!!!!)

Although the Nazi aggression against the Jews of Europe appeared to me to be unconnected to the assassination of President John F. Kennedy, nevertheless, I adhered to my investigative approach.

I kept an eye open for any possible link or clue.
John F. Kennedy: the last victim of the holocaust!  JFK wasn't shot in Dallas. He was gassed.

QuoteAs I was curious as to the role Hearst played in the alleged conspiracy called the Holocaust I rented the movie "Citizen Kane" to see if I could glean some clues from it. I did. The film contained fictional film clips of Hearst who was of course portrayed by Orson Welles. Of interest to me was the clip showing Hearst meeting with Adolph Hitler!
He's a regular Sherlock Holmes!

How does he research the Roman Empire? Does he watch Gladiator?
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