Is it possible to have Earthquake Bombs?

[AntiPharisee]

I personally don't believe that there is a bomb powerful enough to cause an earthquake.
One guy I talked to said he believed it was possible if you put one between tectonic plates.

If it's possible I wonder if the Satanic-Zionists (as opposed to the Godly Zionists - Micah 4:2)
would use one in the upcoming Vancouver 2010 Olympic Games and Haiti was just a test?
The Games are to be held on February 12 - 28.
After all we have to be alert to some type of staged terrorist/crisis event because
of the suspension of Canada's Parliament until after the Games are over; although this could
just mean that the tax-feeders want to attend the Games.
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2004 Indian Ocean Earthquake

The operation was code-named 'METE'.
The gist of OP METE was as follows:
The implantation of a nuclear bomb (ESSO) were employed to
do the drilling) between the tectonic plates under the seabed - just off Aceh, Indonesia.
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Haiti, January 12, 2010 — The Haiti earthquake occurred in the boundary region separating the Caribbean plate and the North America plate. . . The location and focal mechanism of the earthquake are consistent with the event having occurred as left-lateral strike slip faulting on the Enriquillo-Plaintain Garden fault system. . .

[Wimpy]

Haiti and the recent earthquake; very sad how the poorest nation in this hemisphere got boned up the a**,...again.

The other day I watched a Finkelstein video on Gilad Atzmon's site where Norm Finkelstein said that a common Jew saying was "Never Forgive, Never Forget".  After the earthquake I thought HAARP and Jewish vengeance like the Russian revolution (Czar payback), post WWII German prisoner genocide, Roman Empire collapse (Titus payback), Ukrainian Holodomar (resistance is futile),...etc.  Haiti fits the Jew M.O. in that the rebellious slave population in 1803-04 exterminated all white people (undoubtedly many Jewish slave owners and traders).

http://www.democracynow.org/2004/1/2/ha ... _thousands

January 02, 2004
Haiti 1804-2004: Tens of Thousands Mark Bicentennial of Haitian Revolution
Aristide

Born out of a slave revolt, Haiti became an independent nation on Jan. 1, 1804. Yesterday thousands celebrated the anniversary but the nation remains deeply divided over the future of the country and of President Jean Bertrand-Aristide. [includes transcript]

Yesterday marked the 200th anniversary of the Haitian revolution. And it was born out of a slave revolt.The territory the French called St. Domingue won its independence through a revolutionary struggle that triumphed on Jan. 1, 1804. Before that, it was France's most lucrative colony for over a century. More than half a million Africans slaved to produce sugar, rum, cotton, tobacco and indigo.

When they rose up and demanded their freedom, and then defeated Napoleon's army, President George Washing ton and Secretary of State Thomas Jefferson, both slave owners, supported France in its efforts to suppress the slaves.

On another website (trouble connecting-sorry) it was reported that after all the whites were killed in 1804 the new Government requested assistance from Europe to rebuild.  Many "carpetbaggers" took the challenge, but they too were killed in 1805! Oh my.

I realize that the Jew M.O. is pure speculation on my behalf but it certainly seems that Haiti has been purposefully ignored, for two centuries now, with apparent malice.  In spite of all their terrible leaders, Haiti's misery defies any explanation other than, perhaps, Jew fingerprints.

[Wimpy]

First there were indigent Indians whom were exploited, enslaved and slaughtered and then the Black slaves.  The following article does not discuss the complete slaughter of whites in 1803-04 but articles do exist; just not PC to discuss.



http://www.ci.miami.fl.us/haiti2004/history.htm

The Spanish Period

Quickly, the Spanish occupied the island of Haiti, and renamed it Española (written in English as Hispaniola) meaning "little Spain". They exploited its gold mines and reduced the Tainos to slavery. According to early Spanish historian observers, there were as many as 3,000,000 to 4,000,000 Tainos on the island in 1492. Around fifty years after the arrival of Columbus in the Americas, most of the Tainos in Haiti were wiped out through the hardship of their condition as slaves, organized massacres or diseases they contracted from the Spaniards. The genocide of the Tainos in Haiti was one of the most brutal and the annihilation committed on the Indians of the New World by Columbus and his men, one of the most complete in History. Later on, Bartolomew Las Casas, a Spanish priest, revolted against the massacre of the Indians and demanded the cessation of the injustices committed every day against these people in Hispaniola. He advocated for the importation of Blacks from Africa to work on the mines as a mean of ending Indian slavery in the island. Thus, in 1503, the first blacks landed on the island. These blacks, however, came from Spain and not from Africa. Years later, the Spanish would leave Hispaniola for the richest lands of South America where the gold mines were still fresh and rich of the precious metal.

The Haitian Revolution

St Domingue's population was divided into three main groups, the whites or "Blancs", the "Affranchis", a group composed of free blacks and mulattos and the great masses of the slaves. By 1789, the colony's population comprised between 400,000 and 500,000 blacks, compared to 25,000 whites and 40,000 mulattos. A great number of mulattos are offspring of the rape of slave mothers by colonists. They inturn adopted these children and provided them with the necessities of life. These children would sometimes inherit the wealth of their fathers and by the end of the 18th century, the mulattos would own around 25% of the colony's plantations and wealth, while most of them went to France to get a higher education.

However, despite their wealth and their education, the mulattos, because of their color, were considered inferior to the white by law and were discriminated against. They could not practice certain professions, wear European clothes, sit among the whites in church, among other things. Struggle would ensue between the Affranchis and the Whites throughout the 18th century with the former claiming civil and political equality with the latter who want to maintain the status quo. At the same time, the whites were demanding to France the right to participate in the running of the colony. They wanted to make of St Domingue, a country that would be autonomous from France. Both groups would voice their grievances at the time of the French revolution in 1789, which proclaimed the principles of Liberty, Equality and Fraternity.

In the meantime, the slaves manifested their rejection of their condition through different forms of resistance. Some poisoned their masters; others killed their own children to save them from the hellish conditions of slavery. There were also other forms of protests like the collective suicides of the Ibos particularly.

The most successful and persistent form of the slaves' protest was the "marronage". Marronage consisted of slaves running away from the plantation to hide in the mountains of the island or in its forests. From their retreat, the maroons conducted raids on the plantations and often would come at night to poison or kill their masters. One of the most famous Haitian maroons was a man named François Mackandal. He was also a houngan, or voodoo priest, from Guinea. At night, he would attack the plantations, burning them and killing their owners. During his six-year rebellion, he and his followers poisoned and killed as many as 6000 whites. In 1758, however, the French finally caught him and publicly executed him on the public square of Cap Francais (today Cap Haitien).

In 1791, as the whites and the "Affranchis" continued on their war for greater participation in the running of the colony and for equality, the Blacks entered into a full-fledge rebellion that would ultimately result in the creation of the State of Haiti and the abolition of slavery in the land.

A man named Boukman, another houngan, organized on August 14, 1791, a meeting with the slaves in the mountains of the North. This meeting took the form of a Voodoo ceremony in the Bois Caiman in the northern mountains of the island. It was raining and the sky was raging with clouds; the slaves then started confessing their resentment of their condition. A woman started dancing languorously in the crowd, taken by the spirits of the loas. With a knife in her hand, she cut the throat of a pig and distributed the blood to all the participants of the meeting who swore to kill all the whites on the island. On August 22, 1791, the blacks of the North entered into a rebellion, killing all the whites they met and setting the plantations of the colony on fire. However, the French quickly captured the leader of the slaves, Boukman, and beheaded him, bringing the rebellion under control. Just like Mackandal, Boukman had managed to instill in the blacks the idea that he was invincible. Thus, the French exposed his head on Cap's square to convince the slaves that their leader was really dead.

However, the ideas of the revolution, the ideas of Liberty, Equality, Fraternity, had already enflamed the mind of the slaves. The death of Boukman although it had temporarily stopped the rebellion of the North failed to restrain the rest of the blacks from revolting against their condition. The Revolution that would give birth to the Republic of Haiti was under way and nothing could stop it. Toussaint Louverture was the great leader who emerged out of the mass of the revolted. He proved to be a military genius and a formidable leader. He organized the masses of the slaves into an organized army. With political manipulation, and military campaigns, he would gain more and more notoriety in the colony. During the period of 1791, to 1800, Toussaint used the French, the Spaniards and the English against one another. He managed to eliminate all his enemies until he was the only power left in St Domingue (Haiti). By 1801, he was governing the whole island by himself and proclaimed himself governor of the colony. A constitution was soon drawn that same year declaring St Domingue an autonomous French possession where slavery was abolished.

Napoleon wary of Toussaint's great power in the colony sent 82,000 of his battle proven troops commanded by his own brother-in-law seconded by able generals, a fleet of warships, canons, munitions and dogs in order to bring St Domingue under control. Two years of war ended in a stalemate. However, the French treacherously arrested Toussaint Louverture during a meeting in June 1802. He was exiled to France and died in the Fort de Joux high in the cold Alpine mountains of Jura in April 1803. Toussaint though had left capable generals who could carry on the struggle. With the arrest of Toussaint, Dessalines emerged as the new leader of the Haitian Revolution, bringing it to its ultimate level. Other leaders of that period would be Alexandre Petion, François Capois named "La Mort", Henri Christophe, and Boironds Tonnerre.

[MikeWB]

You'd need a LOT of energy to move a tectonic plate so you'd need a nuke since we have no other weapons which could release that much energy. A nuke would be too obvious since it would leave a radioactive trail and also a seismic signature (this is how US/Russia know if anyone's detonating a nuke around the world).

[high_treason]

I don't think its a bomb or anything, its just a natural occurance, Earthquakes have been happening before humans came in to existance, same as volacanos, twisters, tidal waves, tsunamis, floods....

[Christopher Marlowe]

I think it IS possible to have earthquake bombs. Theoretically.

  The pressure that causes Earthquakes is created when the regular movement of the tectonic plates is inhibited by irregularities or "asperities".  

Once the boundary has locked, continued relative motion between the plates leads to increasing stress and therefore, stored strain energy in the volume around the fault surface. This continues until the stress has risen sufficiently to break through the asperity, suddenly allowing sliding over the locked portion of the fault, releasing the stored energy. This energy is released as a combination of radiated elastic strain seismic waves, frictional heating of the fault surface, and cracking of the rock, thus causing an earthquake. -- Wikipedia

cientifically reproducible predictions cannot yet be made to a specific hour, day, or month[,] but for well-understood faults, seismic hazard assessment maps can estimate the probability that an earthquake of a given size will affect a given location over a certain number of years.

So if Scientists are capable of measuring plate movement and predicting when an area is under pressure, placing a bomb in the pressure spot could remove the impedance and set off the quake. That would give the bombers the advantage of knowing exactly WHEN the earthquake would occur.

Causation
It might be said that this would not actually be "causing" the earthquake because the quake is an eventuality caused by pressure built up between the shifting plates. I don't think anyone has the power to cause plates to shift in a different direction.

(From what I understand, Tesla talked about using sympathetic vibrations to cause massive destruction, and I have read theories about HAARP technology being focused on an area to cause an earthquake. Although it might be possible to use sympathetic vibrations to remove an impedance in the manner described above, it seems to be another thing entirely to move a tectonic plate in a different direction, or to speed up its movement. My knowledge of sympathetic vibrations is very limited, but I haven't seen any experimental proof of this subtle power.)

An earthquake bomb could be used for peaceful purposes if an area that was under tectonic stress was evacuated BEFORE the bomb was set off. This would relieve the stress and allow the earth to quake in private: No one would be crushed by falling bricks, or cut to ribbons by a glass shower door. Then the people could return to the city and repair the damage.

I DON'T think this was an earthquake bomb. I haven't seen any evidence of this being an earthquake bomb. I would be willing to look at any PROOF: radiation measurement or pictures of a mushroom cloud.

Getting Off Topic
I live in California and have experienced many earthquakes. The best way to limit injuries and death is through building codes. If you have a building in CA made out of brick, then you have to have the bricks set in rebar. Besides running steel cable through brick, you can use composites to reinforce the brick and hold them together.

Most houses in CA are made with wooden frames. These can shift A LOT in an earthquake, and they don't weigh as much as brick. I've been in a couple heavy earthquakes (Sylmar '71 (6.6); Northridge '94 (6.7)) These houses hold up pretty well.

The recent earthquake in Haiti was a bit higher at 7.3. Earthquakes are measured the Richter scale, which is a base -10 logarithmic scale in order to confuse the shit out of everyone.  The Wiki article has a conversion chart:

The energy release of an earthquake, which closely correlates to its destructive power, scales with the 3⁄2 power of the shaking amplitude. Thus, a difference in magnitude of 1.0 is equivalent to a factor of 31.6 ( = (101.0)(3 / 2)) in the energy released; a difference of magnitude of 2.0 is equivalent to a factor of 1000 ( = (102.0)(3 / 2) ) in the energy released.

So I plugged in the measurements of Sylmar:
(10^6.6)^(3 / 2) = 7.94328235 × 10^9

Northridge:
(10^6.7)^(3 / 2) = 1.12201845 × 10^10

And the measurements of Haiti:
(10^7.3)^(3 / 2) = 8.91250938 × 10^10

( Both the Northridge and Haiti numbers showed up on this page:
http://cmb.as.arizona.edu/~eisenste/aco ... ing_recipe
Detection of the Baryon Acoustic Peak in the Large-Scale Correlation Function of SDSS Luminous Red Galaxies; Description of the recipe we use to generate predicted correlation functions from a given cosmological theory;
For further Reference, Rent "Knowing" (2009) )

On a personal level, it is difficult to describe the difference between 1.12201845 × 10^10 and 8.91250938 × 10^10. One is probably more shakey.  Like if I was in in Haiti, I would have said: "This is really shakey.  It is definitely shakier than the Northridge quake."

Poor countries like Haiti are always going to suffer the most in earthquakes because buildings cost money and people cut corners.  Take for example, a cinderblock wall: the builder might lay the rebar in the base of the wall, but then he doesn't carry it up the full height of the wall; or he won't pour in cement afterward, so that the rebar is hanging loose inside the brick.

So as far as buildings go, I reckon some are just MORE earthquake proof than others, but nothing is earthquake proof. If God, the Creator of the Universe, wants to go Old Testament on you, or open up the Book of the Revelation, then no amount of rebar or wooden framing is going to help you.

I want to be clear that I am NOT saying the people of Haiti are great sinners meriting punishment. (That place is just one long punishment.  Poverty, famine, crime and disease. The people in Haiti probably felt the earthquake, and went: "Oh, yeah. Great. More of the same. Why not have sulfur rain down on us?")  I'm not really in any position to judge, but if there is punishment deserved, I'm sure there are some other countries that might deserve some of that OT punishment.

Conclusion
I'm getting way off topic, so I'll just close with what Jesus said:

And there were present, at that very time, some that told him of the Galileans, whose blood Pilate had mingled with their sacrifices. And he answering, said to them: Think you that these Galileans were sinners above all the men of Galilee, because they suffered such things? No, I say to you: but unless you shall do penance, you shall all likewise perish. Or those eighteen upon whom the tower fell in Siloe, and slew them: think you, that they also were debtors above all the men that dwelt in Jerusalem? No, I say to you; but except you do penance, you shall all likewise perish.

[CrackSmokeRepublican]

More off topic stuff, here's a group that has some interesting research on Earthquakes (they actually design computer chips):

Longitudinal Scalar EM Waves – strong Earth Emissions are part of Quakes and Volcanics
See And Hear the Earth Zap Seismograph Electronics by these waves
Will scientists figure out how and why?

TERRA RESEARCH
1-10-2005
Larry A. Park
http://www.terraresearch.net/articles/ZapSeismo1.html

Mystery of 'The Earthquake Boom'-
a real earthquake

TERRA RESEARCH LLC,
14-August-2003
Larry Park
http://www.terraresearch.net/articles/e ... _file.html


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Checkout Page 27 on ELF waves:
http://users.elo.com.br/~deaquino/Kinetic.pdf

[CrackSmokeRepublican]

Just found this...worth a look:
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 Earthquake induction and environmental modification are part of the latest developments in waging war.  The possibility now exists to conduct secret wars which most of military forces won't even be aware of.

"Because of the intimate connection between the Earth's atmosphere and its weather, it is not surprising to find that military activities have had an impact on local and regional weather patterns"

 

 The Earth as a weapon in 21st Century Wars

       By Rahab S. Hawa

The weapons of war in the new millennium would involve the use of planet earth itself as a weapon, harnessing the power of natural processes for war.

At the Peoples' Health Assembly in December 2000 in Dhaka, Bangladesh, Dr. Bertell revealed to a shocked and incredulous audience that 'the latest weapons in the arsenal of the US military is Planet Earth itself ... and weather will be one of the worst destructive weapons by the year 2025'.

Dr. Bertell was referring to how engineered earthquakes and tornadoes could wreak havoc on populations and nations.

According to her book, electromagnetic weapons 'have the ability to transmit explosive and other effects such as earthquake induction across intercontinental distances to any selected target site on the globe with force levels equivalent to major nuclear explosions'.

For the past 40 years, the US military has conducted experiments on the earth's atmosphere using waves and chemicals.

Attempts to gain control of the weather, through environmental engineering with experiments involving laser and chemicals to ascertain whether they could damage the ozone layer over an enemy; cause damage to crops and human health through exposure to the sun's ultraviolet rays, have been carried out by the military.

Chemicals like barium and lithium have been released above the ozone layer creating spectacular light displays and glowing artificial clouds, which were seen in North America during the 1980s and early 1990s.

These compounds are most destructive of the 'ozone layer' and cause further chemical changes to the earth's atmosphere.

According to Dr. Bertell, 'changes in the earth's atmosphere bring about corresponding changes in the Earth's weather and climate'.

Another method is the use of very low frequency electromagnetic waves in weather modification experiments. These waves can pass through solid earth and oceans and have been used by the military to probe the upper atmosphere and the inner structure of the earth.

These pulsed, extremely low frequency (ELF) waves, for instance, can be used to convey mechanical effects and vibrations at great distances through the Earth. They can manipulate the weather, creating storms and torrential rains over an area.

These waves have the potential to generate earth movements. 'It has the capability to cause disturbance of volcanoes and tectonic plates, which in turn, have an effect on the weather,' she states.

For example, earthquakes are known to interact with the ionosphere (the atmosphere 50-373 miles above the earth's surface). In fact, many of the earthquakes that occurred in recent years were preceded by certain unexplained phenomena, says Dr. Bertell.

Some of the examples in her book include the Tang Shan earthquake in China, which occurred on 28 July 1976, and left 650,000 people dead. The catastrophic event was preceded by an airglow, said to have been caused by Soviet ELF wave experiments to heat the ionosphere.

The other was the San Francisco earthquake. According to Dr. Bertell, unusual ultra low frequency waves were detected in California on 12 September 1989. These waves grew in intensity and finally subsided on 5 October. On 17 October, they appeared again with signals so strong that they went off the scale. Three hours later, the earthquake took place.

In fact, a Washington Times report in March 1992 said, satellites and ground sensors detected mysterious radio waves or related electrical and magnetic activity before major earthquakes in Southern California, Armenia, Japan and Northern California between 1986 and 1989.

The earthquake that hit Los Angeles on 17 January 1994 was also preceded by unusual radio waves and two sonic booms.

'These strange coincidences have never been explained ... it seems highly probable that some of these earthquakes have been a result of human activity, not natural forces,' said Dr. Bertell.

Tellingly, the US Secretary of Defense, in 1997, commented on new threats posed by terrorist organizations 'engaging in eco-type terrorism whereby they can alter the climate, set off earthquakes, and volcanoes remotely through the use of electromagnetic waves'.

'The military has a habit of accusing others of having capabilities they already hold,' said Dr. Bertell in response.

These experiments by the military on the earth's atmosphere have seen an increase in freak weather throughout the globe, says Dr. Bertell.

'Between the 1960s and the 1990s, major natural disaster rates have increased by a factor of 10,' she adds.

According to her, the EL Nino in 1997-98, which was blamed for abnormal weather conditions worldwide, was actually preceded by violent disruptions and climatic destabilization a year earlier.

In 1996, Dr. Bertell described the severe flooding that occurred in the Indian subcontinent affecting Nepal, India and Bangladesh in which millions were left homeless. In China, floods killed hundreds while tens of thousands had their homes and property destroyed.

At the same time, Canada was hit by torrential rains, flooding, tornadoes, hail and thunderstorms - all very abnormal climatic conditions destroying property, livestock and lives.

Heavy snowfall, not seen in decades, appeared in South Africa, cutting off food supplies and taking lives due to the extreme cold.

During the week ending 19th July, earthquakes rocked the French Alps, Austria, Southern Italy, Northeast India, Japan, Indonesia, the Kamchatka peninsular, and Southern Mexico. In New Zealand, a volcano erupted.

Tremors were reported in Kenya, Germany, the Greek Islands, Turkey, northern Sumatra, Bali, the central Philippines, New Zealand's North Island, eastern Japan, central Chile, El Salvador and the Alentian Islands, all within the week ending 26 July, she reported.

According to her, 'While some of the events of 1996 may have been 'acts of God', certainly, the overall volume and ferocity was anything but normal'.

'Because of the intimate connection between the Earth's atmosphere and its weather, it is not surprising to find that military activities have had an impact on local and regional weather patterns,' she writes.

The fact that military activities can cause freak weather by accident as well as deliberately as part of geophysical warfare, is indeed a frightening prospect for the planet.

More so, when we know so little about 'the natural cycles of Earth and the impact of human activities on it to make good predictions of what will happen when human activities interfere with them,' she says.

'Moreover, such predictions are based on the natural history of our planet and are meaningless in the face of random experimentation on major Earth systems in the upper atmosphere and the bowels of the planet,' she adds.

Clearly, 'the military is also contributing to some of the most intractable survival problems of the twenty-first century,' she notes.

In her path-breaking book titled 'Planet Earth: The Latest Weapon of War' (2000), Dr. Rosalie Bertell cites examples from the Vietnam War, the Gulf War and the NATO bombing in Kosovo.  

 

Excerpt from Third World Network  http://www.twnside.org.sg/title/hawa2.htm.

http://www.bariumblues.com/earth_as_a%20_weapon.htm

[CrackSmokeRepublican]

12/31/91

CONTACT: Stanford University News Service (415) 723-2558
Scientists debate new evidence for electromagnetic earthquake predictors

STANFORD -- As a deepening voice signals a boy's adolescence, audible rumblings, shakings and ventings may warn us of geological change in the earth, according to scientists and engineers.

Enticed with tantalizing but inconclusive evidence, researchers have searched since 1982 for a signal to predict earthquakes. They have monitored extra-low frequency (ELF) and very-low frequency (VLF) radio waves from satellites and from the ground.

New findings suggest researchers may find what they seek at even lower frequencies, said Antony Fraser-Smith, an electrical engineer at Stanford University's Space, Telecommunications and Radioscience (STAR) Laboratory.

In 1989, in the days before the Loma Prieta earthquake, Fraser-Smith detected huge radio signals in the ultra-low frequency (ULF) range, 0.01 to 10 hertz, with an instrument placed 7 kilometers from the epicenter.

Scientists from five countries subsequently presented data at the recent meeting of the American Geophysical Union (AGU) in San Francisco that support a connection between ULF radio signals and earthquakes above magnitude 5.0.

Previously, Soviet, French and Japanese scientists had reported that ELF and VLF radio waves - detected by satellites - signaled the coming of mid-sized earthquakes. However, when former Stanford undergraduate Tom Henderson and his STAR Laboratory colleagues repeated the Soviet and French studies using data from a U.S. satellite and submitting the data to a rigorous statistical analysis, they found no difference in VLF and ELF emissions on days with earthquakes compared to days without temblors. Thus, they could not confirm the Soviet and French results.

"ELF/VLF is not yet a reliable frequency range for earthquake prediction," Henderson concluded during a presentation of the Stanford researchers' findings at the AGU meeting. ELF radio waves range from 10 to 3,000 hertz, VLF from 3,000 to 30,000 hertz.

"ULF radio signals can penetrate 10 to 20 miles of earth without too much trouble," Fraser-Smith said. "ELF and VLF get absorbed."

The first indication that ULF radio waves could be a much better predictor came as many scientific discoveries do - by accident.

"Our findings were complete luck," Fraser-Smith said. "We weren't studying earthquakes at all."

As part of a Navy-sponsored study to determine how natural noises interfere with satellite communications, Fraser- Smith and graduate student Arman Bernardi had been recording ULF radio waves for two years from Corralitos, a site in the Santa Cruz Mountains remote from ULF noise generated by the Bay Area Rapid Transit system. With a 6-foot antenna mounted on the ground, they monitored ULF radio waves produced primarily by solar wind as it distorts the earth's electromagnetic field, creating "background noise" that disrupts communications.

Twelve days before the Loma Prieta earthquake Fraser- Smith's detector recorded a large signal. The signal remained high until three hours before the earthquake, when it shot up even further.

"The signal was off scale, 20 to 30 times bigger than what we usually measure," Fraser-Smith said. "We nearly shut down the Corralitos system because we thought something was wrong with it."

Then the earthquake hit, disabling the system for eight hours.

Until the Loma Prieta earthquake, ULF radio measurements had not been used to monitor earthquakes. Since then, however, Soviet researchers have analyzed chart recordings of ULF signals made in the republic of Georgia during the December 1988 Spitak-Armenia earthquake (magnitude 6.9 to 7.0) that claimed more than 30,000 lives. They found changes similar to those observed by the Stanford group. Because the chart recordings were not complete (one recorder ran out of ink), and because they give less information than the Stanford computer-based measurements, Fraser-Smith said the results are encouraging but need further replication before scientists can be sure that ULF signals precede earthquakes.

But now the data are flowing in like hot lava. Scientists from Greece, China, France, Japan and the United States all presented findings at the recent AGU meeting that support the possibility that ULF signals may precede earthquakes.

No one knows what causes the signals. Stanford electrical engineering graduate student Alexandr Draganov has suggested that ground water carries an electrical current as it pushes through faults and cracks in the earth. Panayiotis Varotsos of Athens University believes rock on one side of a fault conducts electricity differently than rock on the other. When land masses with different conductivities slide past each other, Varotsos said, friction releases electricity.

Most scientists are cautious in their conclusions, knowing that publicity-seekers who erroneously predict earthquakes damage the credibility of seismologists.

Even legitimate scientists generate skepticism. Varotsos raised a few eyebrows during the AGU's earthquake prediction session when he said earthquakes may be detected with ULF waves only in "sensitive regions."

"Earthquake prediction has always been a questionable endeavor," said Stanford's Mark Fenoglio, a graduate student in geophysics who co-presided over the session. "People start to lose faith in what we (geologists) can do."

Geologists are concerned that the public will ignore legitimate earthquake warnings after someone cries wolf. An example is the New Madrid region of the Midwest, where major quakes occurred in the early 1800s. Geologists have been urging quake-resistant building codes for the area; they expect another major quake there, but so far cannot predict when it will occur. In December 1990, a non-scientific prediction of a massive quake turned up wrong, creating public exasperation and, some say, a postponement of building code reform.

"There's not a whole lot of evidence for precursor signals," said Fenoglio, whose studies of aftershocks to the Loma Prieta earthquake showed no correlation between ULF signals and aftershocks ranging from magnitude 3.0 to 5.0.

His results neither confirm nor refute the existence of precursor signals. An earthquake signal may be so loud it drowns out any aftershock signals, he suggested. Or an earthquake may have to reach a certain magnitude before detectors pick up a signal, he said.

Even Fraser-Smith is reserved.

"I'm not in the earthquake prediction business yet," he said, emphasizing the need for more studies to verify Loma Prieta's one-time finding. A finding based on only one or two occurrences runs the risk of being a fluke, he warned.

With support from the U.S. Geological Survey, he has set up two ULF detectors at Parkfield, Calif., where an earthquake of magnitude 6.0 or greater has occurred on average every 22 years for the past century. Dubbed "The Watched Pot" by geologists, Parkfield is overdue for a temblor that could put ULF detectors to the test.

"This field offers some hope but is very indefinite," said Seya Uyeda, a Texas A & M scientist who presided over the session with Fenoglio.

Uyeda has monitored electromagnetic waves in Japan, where his detectors have picked up ULF signals from electric trains, earthquakes and volcanic eruptions. He has found higher levels of ULF activity during the day, suggesting that human activity produces background noise that may make precursor signals harder to detect.

However, one hour before a November 1987 earthquake in Japan, Uyeda's ULF detector went off scale, he said. Like Fraser- Smith, he awaits further quakes to test his hypothesis.

"The question remains if any of these signals are real," said Uyeda. "We don't know yet."

http://news.stanford.edu/pr/91/911231Arc1006.html

[rodin]

Underground nukes would not give off any visible signs only a seismic signature which could be passed of as quake by controlled science as per Asian Tsunami

When the device being tested is buried at sufficient depth, the explosion may be contained, with no release of radioactive materials to the atmosphere.
The extreme heat and pressure of an underground nuclear explosion causes changes in the surrounding rock. The rock closest to the location of the test is vaporised, forming a cavity. Further away, there are zones of crushed, cracked, and irreversibly strained rock.

This thread leads to some dark places connected by subterranean subterfuge

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=101609

[GordZilla]

Because you just never know;

[youtube:2zo10kxw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhJfkh0e3l0[/youtube]2zo10kxw]

[MikeWB]

Underground nukes would not give off any visible signs only a seismic signature which could be passed of as quake by controlled science as per Asian Tsunami

When the device being tested is buried at sufficient depth, the explosion may be contained, with no release of radioactive materials to the atmosphere.
The extreme heat and pressure of an underground nuclear explosion causes changes in the surrounding rock. The rock closest to the location of the test is vaporised, forming a cavity. Further away, there are zones of crushed, cracked, and irreversibly strained rock.

This thread leads to some dark places connected by subterranean subterfuge

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=101609

Some people see a conspiracy in everything; even in natural events.

Nuclear explosion can be easily detected by seismographs. There are hundreds of sensitive seismographs around the world and in control of different nations scientists and it's difficult to hide a nuclear explosion these days. A nuclear explosion is a lot different from an earthquake and scientists can easily determine if it's an earthquake or a nuclear device since they leave completely different signatures.

All this talk about earthquake bomb is not based in reality and there's zero evidence of it. Chavez never said it was an earthquake bomb either.

[GordZilla]

This thread leads to some dark places connected by subterranean subterfuge

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=101609

Some people see a conspiracy in everything; even in natural events.

Nuclear explosion can be easily detected by seismographs. There are hundreds of sensitive seismographs around the world and in control of different nations scientists and it's difficult to hide a nuclear explosion these days. A nuclear explosion is a lot different from an earthquake and scientists can easily determine if it's an earthquake or a nuclear device since they leave completely different signatures.

All this talk about earthquake bomb is not based in reality and there's zero evidence of it. Chavez never said it was an earthquake bomb either.

Yeah a bomb is unlikely but HAARP...well maybe.. maybe possible anyways but whether or not that happened in Haiti who knows for sure?

[abduLMaria]

my guess is, it (causing earthquakes to happen) is a funded project, with unknown progress.

don't forget the War Toy Boyz have humongous budgets at their disposal.  for example, the day before 9-11, Rumsfeld announced that the Pentagon had "lost" $1.1 Trillion.  that money did not disappear - it went into a hidden budget.