False Flag Alert : Car bomb found in parked SUV in Times Square

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GORDON DUFF: TIMES SQUARE BOMB HOAX, ISRAELI INTEL GROUP SHOWS IT'S HAND



About: Gordon Duff
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http://www.veteranstoday.com/2010/05/02/gordon-duff-time-square-bomb-hoax-israeli-intel-group-shows-its-hand/

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[thirdeyewise]

In that second video, all i see is two Jewish noses talking to each other!

[Ognir]

Pity we can't link this nonsense to Iran  :lol:
Maybe we will by Friday  :wave:

[superzebra]

New York bomb suspect charged, arrests in Pakistan.
from reutres.

they have him now.he is from usa citzen.trraind in pakistan by alqeada.he is charged with attemp tp use mass dustucsion weapons.
i think:
the next war is between.usa and pakistan,not iran i think.after pakistan is iran.

[Ognir]

Jim Fetzer KNOWS Israel Did 1-10 playlist
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rW_wPGuq ... playnext=1

No 2nd chances, Fetzer is a liar like Jones
no second chances

[Wimpy]

New York bomb suspect charged, arrests in Pakistan.
from reutres.

they have him now.he is from usa citzen.trraind in pakistan by alqeada.he is charged with attemp tp use mass dustucsion weapons.
i think:
the next war is between.usa and pakistan,not iran i think.after pakistan is iran.

Yes, I've been thinking along those lines prior to the (Bombay) incident.  Israel wants full control of the Nukes in Pakistan and part of the US being in Afghanistan is tactical positioning for such an event.  Israels increased involvement in Indian Gov. affairs pretty much covers the Southern and Eastern borders of Pakistan.  There are rumblings that action by US of Israel would also include Bangladesh.  All of this, Pakistan, Iran, Bangladesh could occur simultaneously.

[Ognir]

Yet another crock of shite
Amazing and people still believe these lying fecks

(CNN) -- The Times Square bombing suspect was able to board Emirates Flight 202 late Monday despite being put on a no-fly list earlier in the day, leading some to question whether the no-fly list worked.

A senior counterterrorism official says at the time Faisal Shahzad bought his ticket, the airline had not refreshed its information, so his name did not raise any red flags.

Shahzad was arrested shortly before midnight Monday at New York's John F. Kennedy International Airport -- minutes before his plane was due to take off for Dubai in the United Arab Emirates -- after U.S. Customs and Border Protection, which reviews all flight manifests, caught his name when the airline sent the agency its passenger list, according to the counterterrorism official.

Authorities had tailed Shahzad throughout the day, but lost him before he arrived at the airport, the official said.

An FBI official said surveillance operations are designed with redundancies in place, and that agents had to avoid tipping off Shahzad that he was being followed.

At a Tuesday news conference, U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder defended surveillance efforts.

"I was here all yesterday and through much of last night and was aware of the tracking that was going on, and I was never in any fear that we were in danger of losing him," Holder said.

Charges filed Tuesday against Shahzad paint him as a would-be terrorist who sought explosives training in Pakistan's volatile Waziristan region, where government forces have been working to root out Taliban militants.

The court documents show Shahzad apparently continued to have contact with Pakistan upon his return to the United States, receiving a series of 12 phone calls originating from his country of birth in the days leading up to the incident -- five of which were made on the same day he bought the Nissan Pathfinder used in the attempted attack Saturday night.

Those phone calls ceased just three days before the failed bombing, the documents show.

"It is clear that this was a terrorist plot," Holder said Tuesday. It could have caused "death and destruction in the heart of New York City."

Five federal charges were filed against Shahzad on Tuesday in U.S. District Court: attempting to use a weapon of mass destruction, acts of terrorism transcending national boundaries, use of a destructive device in connection with criminal violence, transporting and receiving explosives, and damaging and destroying property by means of fire.

Read complaint filed in federal court Tuesday (PDF)

If convicted, Shahzad faces up to life in prison on the charges.

Shahzad has waived his right to remain silent and his right to an attorney, and is cooperating in the investigation, a source familiar with the probe said.

Rep. Charles Rangel, D-New York, noted that, along with a Nigerian man who tried to bring down a Northwest Airlines flight on Christmas Day, this is the second high-profile incident recently where someone on the U.S. no-fly list has managed to board a plane.

"Whatever went wrong, I hope they get their acts together and correct it," Rangel said. "The good thing about this is that nobody was hurt in either case, but ... someone ought to come up with the answer and see that it doesn't happen again."
Being lucky can't be our national security strategy.


The terror plot may dominate discussions Wednesday as New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg travels to Washington for a previously scheduled Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee hearing on terrorism.

Sen. Susan Collins, a Republican from Maine and ranking member of the committee, has already expressed concerns.

"A key question for me is why this suspect was allowed to board the plane in the first place," Collins said, according to The New York Times. "There appears to be a troubling gap between the time they had his name and the time he got on the plane."

Rep. Pete Hoekstra, ranking member of the House Intelligence Committee, told CNN that U.S. intelligence efforts have to be better.

"Being lucky can't be our national security strategy," Hoekstra said. "We were lucky on Christmas Day. We were lucky last week."

[superzebra]

is this new false flg will lead to internet cencership or internet id card.
fbi claims that the terrorist got his hate towards the usa from the net.

from reuters:

Investigators questioned the suspected Times Square bomber hoping to uncover links he might have had to foreign militant groups and U.S. media said he could appear in a New York court on Wednesday.

the benefits of this false flag:
1.internet cencership
2.more war on pakistan and possible war in central asia,will include pakistan and iran.
3.perhapse the second use of nuclear weapon. by usa.

[Tomas O'Crohan]

Jim Fetzer KNOWS Israel Did 1-10 playlist
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rW_wPGuq ... playnext=1

No 2nd chances, Fetzer is a liar like Jones
no second chances

Ognir, I think you jumped the gun on this one. Whaler created a video of Jim Fetzer reading about 10 chapters from a book entitled "Stranger Than Fiction" which outlines all of the Israeli false flag attacks from the Lavon Affair through 9/11. How someone who is using his ability to reach an audience to inform them through the recitation of this book the long list of Israeli false flag crimes, including 9/11, can nevertheless be called a liar, is beyond me. Granted, if Fetzer was listing only a few, well known Israeli false flags but telling his audience, like Fatboy, "there's no way Israel did 9/11, look folks, I've done the research" than it would be highly appropriate to call him a liar. That's not what he's doing however. He's reading a book that says this criminal regime has done ALL these false flags. Whaler should be complimented on getting this turned into a video, not warned for it.

I challenge you to listen to this audio from beginning to end and then say that Fetzer's a liar. Fetzer is using his influence to get the truth out that these barbarians are behind ALL these false flags. Whaler should be encouraged in his work in this regard, not discouraged.

As we near the climax of the criminals' all or nothing moves, they are going to employ the tactic of divide and conquer more so than ever in order to prevent a cohesive force in opposition to them from emerging. We need to work against this tactic by being EXTREMELY CAUTIOUS about calling people shills and liars. Yes, shills must be outed, I completely agree. However, just because someone hasn't reached our level of understanding yet doesn't make them a shill or a liar. If they're helping us pull the load, they're on our side, even if we think they still have a ways to go.

DBS called Kaminski and Salbucci shills and then had to retract those allegations. Both gentlemen were extremely gracious given the charges leveled against them. We have to make sure we don't fall into the traps these criminals have laid for us. As the whole thing frays and unravels at the orchestration of the criminals, the need for unity of purpose will be greater than ever. Let's out the shills by all means but be damn cautious about doing so. This is accomplished first and foremost by getting our facts straight before we level charges.

I challenge you to listen to this audio from beginning to end and then call Fetzer a liar.

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Tomas, we had so many others before showing signs of "awakening" for later take "the deception-approach".

a gatekeeper's business as usual





Let for now Ognir and other say so -with reservations, me included-  the issue is, IF Jim is a gatekeeper, then you should expect from a gatekeeper to say all the right things, is on the role, IF Jim is not, time will tell, I really hope that Ognir is wrong in this case, then we have a good intellect warrior at our disposition, in case of Ognir been right, then Jim Fetzer just would be just another more of those saviors who after a while take a 180 degree angle in the opposite direction . . . Is more of the rule nowadays


leading the lemmings on the wrong track






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[Tomas O'Crohan]

I understand well what you are saying Tab and do not disagree. My only point is that we wait to level charges until AFTER we have proof of the 180 turn, not before. If we call everyone a shill and a liar in anticipation that they MIGHT turn, then we are just working in the enemies' favor. They want us to turn on each other. Look at Salbucci, a rare sane voice in an insane world, made purposely insane by our sworn enemy. DBS launched on him without being in possession of the FACTS. We need to stop doing this. They want us to splinter and our only hope is to stay unified. FACTS before CHARGES, that's all I'm saying. To Whaler: You did good my friend to get this video out there. There have been quite a few people who have been exposed to the truth of these Israeli false flags because of your work. They'll share it with others. Keep up the good work! You have skills that I do not possess.

[Wimpy]

DBS posed the question re: Salbucci, it was not a direct accusation.  DBS apologized only for not calling Sabucci first rather than posting his question on his Public site.  Salbucchi did not take offense and cleared the matter up immediately.  No offense Tomas but you make this incident sound like DBS shot from the hip with an indictment and I just don't see it that way.

[Ognir]

I'll watch the video later on Tomas and get back to you

[VoltaXebec]

I'll give Fetzer the rest of the week to add to the so called "Jim Fetzer KNOWS israel did 911", let's hear him actually say it.

[Whaler]

Jim Fetzer KNOWS Israel Did 1-10 playlist
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rW_wPGuq ... playnext=1

No 2nd chances, Fetzer is a liar like Jones
no second chances

 I don't know that much about Fetzer. I knew him from the JFK research he had done. I Wasn't in to 911 truth until a couple of years ago so I'm not familiar with his work regarding 911.

Before I made the vid I googled Fetzer-shill, jew, zionism, lies, disinfo. I didn't find anything that proved he is/was a shill so I thought it was Kosher to make the vid. What specifically did Fetzer do that was unforgivable?  

In any event I didn't know that there was bad blood between Fetzer and TIU. Sorry about that. I wouldn't have posted the vid here if I had known that.

Jim Fetzer KNOWS Israel Did 1-10 playlist
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rW_wPGuq ... playnext=1

No 2nd chances, Fetzer is a liar like Jones
no second chances

Ognir, I think you jumped the gun on this one. Whaler created a video of Jim Fetzer reading about 10 chapters from a book entitled "Stranger Than Fiction" which outlines all of the Israeli false flag attacks from the Lavon Affair through 9/11. How someone who is using his ability to reach an audience to inform them through the recitation of this book the long list of Israeli false flag crimes, including 9/11, can nevertheless be called a liar, is beyond me. Granted, if Fetzer was listing only a few, well known Israeli false flags but telling his audience, like Fatboy, "there's no way Israel did 9/11, look folks, I've done the research" than it would be highly appropriate to call him a liar. That's not what he's doing however. He's reading a book that says this criminal regime has done ALL these false flags. Whaler should be complimented on getting this turned into a video, not warned for it.

I challenge you to listen to this audio from beginning to end and then say that Fetzer's a liar. Fetzer is using his influence to get the truth out that these barbarians are behind ALL these false flags. Whaler should be encouraged in his work in this regard, not discouraged.

As we near the climax of the criminals' all or nothing moves, they are going to employ the tactic of divide and conquer more so than ever in order to prevent a cohesive force in opposition to them from emerging. We need to work against this tactic by being EXTREMELY CAUTIOUS about calling people shills and liars. Yes, shills must be outed, I completely agree. However, just because someone hasn't reached our level of understanding yet doesn't make them a shill or a liar. If they're helping us pull the load, they're on our side, even if we think they still have a ways to go.

DBS called Kaminski and Salbucci shills and then had to retract those allegations. Both gentlemen were extremely gracious given the charges leveled against them. We have to make sure we don't fall into the traps these criminals have laid for us. As the whole thing frays and unravels at the orchestration of the criminals, the need for unity of purpose will be greater than ever. Let's out the shills by all means but be damn cautious about doing so. This is accomplished first and foremost by getting our facts straight before we level charges.

I challenge you to listen to this audio from beginning to end and then call Fetzer a liar.

Thanks, No worries. My feelings aren't hurt.

You bring up an important point: How are anti-zio's going to react when people that were previously thought of as shills begin to reverse themselves and start exposing Israel and Zio Jew power? I think it is inevitable. I guess it should be looked at with cautious optimism. I can only speak for myself but I will forgive and forget....unless the person is an obvious shill and is clearly making an attempt to infiltrate the movement.

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I'll watch the video later on Tomas and get back to you

Jim reads the first 5 chap of  "Stranger Than Fiction" and then i think chap 16. He sounds sometimes very upset when reading some parts of it.


By the way Prothink based most of his documentary "Missing Links ~ The Definitive Truth About 9/11 " on "Stranger Than Fiction" but I think he did it based really on the youtube video version of it (no more to be found at youtube since at least 1 years ago when I notized it disappeared from youtube), here I found it at livevideo.com, at least part 1:

http://www.livevideo.com/video/FCF886322C4F4BCEBCFAA50AB37C38DD/911-stranger-than-fiction-1-5.aspx?lastvcid=234996
 

The Book - Stranger Than Fiction
Albert D. Pastore (Author)

http://www.amazon.com/Stranger-Than-Fiction-Albert-Pastore/dp/1893302474




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[joeymaclover]

This picture in this CBS News video proves that Faisal Shahzad is a terrorist!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPjlV9eg ... r_embedded

Our media and gov is working hard for us!!! :think:  :think:  :think:

[MonkeySeeMonkeyDo]

Well now we know the motive for this set up. The NYPD wanted to save 900 cop jobs and restore their $55 million budget.
[youtube:1zwqrv0p]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-T1sSacFoTY[/youtube]1zwqrv0p]

[joeymaclover]

Now he is forgotten!  The End!

[Tomas O'Crohan]

Right, Joey, exactement! Say, have you heard anything about the Muslin "shooter" at Ft. Hood, you know, the lone nut, psycho, Muslim shrink? Oops, I forgot, they declared "The End!" on that patsy too. Way to go zio fools, you've completely convinced us that there are dangerous Muslims everywhere. Thank god you're on the job keeping us "safe." I'm gushing with appreciation and I'm sure you are too.

[joeymaclover]

Thanks Tomas, I guess we sit back and wait for the next act in this game!

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Stephen Lendman on the Times Square "Car Bomb" as a "False Flag" Attack -  06 maj, 2010  

[youtube:3emnbmwm]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhROkN-65kY[/youtube]3emnbmwm]

JamesFetzerNews — 06 maj, 2010 — Stephen Lendman, an outspoken voice for progressive causes, discusses his analysis of the Times Square "Car Bomb" as a "false flag" operation intended to instill fear into the American people to make them more malleable and responsive to the administration's ongoing "war on terror", which is a pretext for continuing wars of aggression abroad and constraining civil liberties at home. One of the first aspects that caught his eye was the improbability of finding a parking space in Times Square on a Saturday night. In this case, the bomb itself included inert fertilizer and tanks of propane, with timing devices that appear to have been more for show that detonation. The Parkistani-American charged with the offense, Faisal Shahzad, 30, is well-educated with an M.B.A. and appears to have none of the characteristics associated with suicide bombers. Lendman draws a comparison with the recent "Underware Bomber" incident, in which the accused, Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab, was denied a UK entrance visa, wasn't on a "No Fly" List, paid cash for a one-way ticket to Detroit, checked no luggage, had a US visa but no passport, and was helped on board by a "well-dressed Indian" to facilitate the likely false flag plot using him as a convenient dupe. This appears to be one more incident in a long list of "false flag" attacks arranged by one or another government to justify the claim that an external enemy had attacked the nation for the sake of promoting its political agenda. In his article, Lendman traces the recent history of these attacks, including the 9/11 attacks in New York and Washington, D.C., the 2004 Madrid train bombings, the 2005 London subway bombings, and the 2007 Glasgow Airport attack using a Jeep Cherokee loaded with propane, which bears closest comparison to the Times Square event. Any one who reads Lendman's article will discover that the history of "false flag" attacks extends back at least as far as events that precipitated the Spanish-American war of 1898, the Reichstag fire of 1933, the simulated Polish attack on the Gkeiwitz radio station in 1939, the attack on Pearl Harbor in 1941, and other similar events leading up to the present day.

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