TFC/TiU 20th June DBS Rafeeg & Ognir - Viva Palestine

[Ognir]

http://theinfounderground.com/archives/ ... 6-2010.mp3

[Tomas O'Crohan]

Excellent presentation Ognir. You three were "pumping on all cylinders." I also listened to Kaminsky's interview today on the Eli James show (http://www.talkshoe.com/talkshoe/web/ta ... 187&cmd=tc). It seems the message is getting out there and as Muhammad pointed out today, even Jewns, Rense, et als are being forced to admit at least a part of the truth or be completely alienated from their listeners. I read something very funny this week: "What is the jews' national anthem? Answer: Onwards Christian Soldiers." If you ever read "Bonfire of the Vanities" you'll recall that the motto of the "Masters of the Universe" residing in the Upper East Side was "isolation, isolation, isolation." That is, they demanded isolation from us. Our new motto is "quarantine, quarantine, quarantine." That is, we demand their isolation from us, PERMANENTLY.

[joeymaclover]

Another Great Show!    
Ognir reports live from the Suez Canal and goes on a cruise with the Israeli Navy, 1st. Class!!!!
Interviews Janet Napolitano and Abe Foxman.
Rafeeg recommends everyone to buy ocean front property on the Golf Coast.
DBS hires Rahm Emanuel to co-host TFC/TIU Radio after he leaves the White House.
     

[Ognir]

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[bigwaga]

Another brilliant show  :clap:

TIU/TFC the best and most consistent info on the net  :up:

[Ahmed]

Great show :clap:

Ognir, excellent closing statement. Regarding a point you raised in the programme: Turkey today isn't the Turkey of 20 years ago, people are going their own way not the way of the EJew

Mohammed: "We are the new mainstream"
"Jubilation, a jubilee"
"They're not smart people these Rothschilds, I mean; just look at them"
"There was no spoonful of sugar, but that's the way it is"
"We've seen it, now what're we going to do about it?"


Daryl, sterling analysis on criminal control policiy and with regards to the Medici and Jews, perhaps this may help; I'm quoting myself here from a Chris Marlowe thread on 'The Jew Of Malta':

Machiavelli, though not known to have been a Mason himself, kept questionable company in Pope Julius II; who was loved by the usurers from which he took out war loans and satirized by Hieronymus Bosch in 'Christ Crowned with Thorns' (Bosch being a bit of a hypocrite since he too promoted Masonic interests as seen in 'The Garden of Earthly Delights'). Macheveill also dedicated 'The Prince' "To the Magnificent Lorenzo Di Piero De' Medici", though that could well be a reference to his grandfather and Masonic ally Lorenzo de' Medici or Lorenzo The Magnificent.

'The Medici Archive Project', founded in 1993 by Dr. Edward L. Goldberg details the extent to which the house of Medici were involved with European Jewry.

'The Medici Archives Fact Paper 38-I' By Samuel Kurinsky

"The 'Israelite Communities' of Florence, Siena, Pisa and Livorno were political creations of the Medici rulers. Like the Medici Grand Dukedom itself, these communities took shape in the course of the sixteenth century. Both the Medici and the Jews were expelled from Florentine territory in the 1490s. When the Medici returned to power in 1512, the Jewish ban fell into abeyance, until the next expulsion of the Medici in 1527. In 1537, Cosimo de 'Medici seized definitive control of the Florentine government and reorganized it as the Grand Dukedom of Tuscany. By the mid-1540's, less than ten years after he gained the throne, Cosimo I began recruiting affluent Spanish and Portuguese Jews for resettlement in Florence and his chief port city of Pisa. In 1567 he reimposed badges of identification for Jews, in 1569 shut the Jewish banks, and in 1570-71 restricted Jewish settlement to two new ghettos in Florence and Siena."

So in 4 years these particular Jews had destabilized the economy to such an extent that Cosimo had to do a complete rollback and shutdown.

Wonder what they were up to...

"Livorno was also a major center of Jewish commerce, second only to Amsterdam, it was also a leading center of Jewish study and mysticism, particularly under the influence of Rabbi Joseph ben Emanuel Ergas (1685-1732) and other proponents of the Kaballah. Indeed, the Jews of Florence, Siena, Pisa and Livorno were conspicuous for the breadth and diversity of their interests and activities. Vitale Nissim de Pisa, from one of the oldest banking families in Tuscany, was a distinguished Talmudist and his son Simone graduated as a Doctor of Medicine"

Love the line "were conspicuous for the breadth and diversity of their interests and activities..."

I bet they were.

In 1593, Cosimo's son Ferdinando I granted Jews free residence, unlimited access to trade, and even partial self-government in this new Medicean free-port on the Mediterranean.

Factions within the conspiracy often fought each other, and in doing so only bolstered the usurer's trade; wars within wars if you will: The Pope Sixtus IV, Pazzi -Salviati affair being a prime example.

Lorenzo The Magnificent was probably best known for gathering Masonic figures like Marsiglio Ficino, Cristoforo Landino, John Argyropoulos and the infamous Pico della Mirandola at 'Academy of the Medici'. Leonardo Da Vinci also rose to fame through Medici's contacts and commissions. Da Vinci later stated that: "The Medici made me and the Medici destroyed me."

Tomas O'Crohan wrote:
I read something very funny this week: "What is the jews' national anthem? Answer: Onwards Christian Soldiers."

That's right Tomas, and remember the shabbos goy motto: 'We'll do for you until you're done with us'!

[Helphand]

A good broadcast for the reasons I suggest below, naturally my praise is partisan.

World Cup = "Panis et Circenses".


Rafiq [@15:53 appx;] says there was nearly 600 years after the expulsion when the
Jewish problem and monarchical treasury deficits in England were eradicated with
the exception of infighting e.g. between Catholics and Protestants. BUT the latter
WAS another function of Jewish subversion - read "The Plot Against the Church" by
Pinay among many other sources. Calvin was indeed Cohen and his acolyte John
Knox in Scotland did much to destroy unity of the social fabric as in England. This
was another means of dividing the Roman church which had been the main
bulwark against Jewish subversion. So there WAS destabilization of the country during
that time.

Rafiq [@17:00 appx:] historically the Jewish question has been treated as a
COLLECTIVE issue; hence the explusions of whole populations from various countries
over time [excluding inevitably a left-behind ragtag band of cryptos no doubt]. They
have to be dealt with en masse, the benefit of which action outweighs the risk of
harm to any individuals in the group who are not, in fact, responsible for subversion.
This brings to mind the comment from the Preface to Conner's book, cited below.

Ognir [@27:45 appx] is IMHO *right* to say follow the money since it is the source
from which the problem ultimately rises. Stem that flow and the problem may be
expected to go away; or at least, to abate so that an environment emerges in
which details of the wider problem can be widely disseminated, recognised, and
addressed.
Also "the biggest revisionists on the panet are the Jews". Yes!

And this without even needing to succeed in getting third parties educated into
"difficult" areas i.e. the reality of organised Jewry, many (most?) of whom seem
to comprise the real "White Supremacists" (DBS @40:30 appx). (See in TiU
Sanctum, Must reads:  Book Blurb on Jessel's "Unknown History of the Jews" (1909)).
As I've said elsewhere, just examine MA Rothschild's reported statement about
controlling the issuance etc of money and he cares not who makes the laws; and
REVERSE that situation. This seems to be Pidcock's line, taking a random example.
It will meet the same resistance that the American Presidents encountered but as
all on the show have remarked, it has been for them a personal educational process
of YEARS. Can you reasonably expect the broader approach really to represent a
practical solution? DBS says [@19:15 appx] for instance that he finds he has to
educate his other guests to bring them up to speed which is a pain in the neck. So
why lay emphasis on the painful and less productive?

(Maybe consider focusing some of these sites on the broader Jewish question and
others on the purely monetary factor? Say, TFC/TiU concentrate on the wider
racial/cultural etc issues with some monetary reference and wakupfromyourslumber.com
sticks to the money question? The latter seems now to be as broad-ranging as the
other two although its genesis was professedly in the money question (?) so now
there is duplication of effort and the money question gets elided).

DBS [@18:58 appx] still concerned that only 4-6k people a day are accessing the
historic info on the TFC website [i.e. presumably the books?] Solution? I still advocate
the Book Blurb / Reader's Digest summary as one possibility to give an overview
of possible highlights in order to encourage the novice to dip in further.
Some guidance into this labyrinthine subject seems inevitable if it's ging to be more
widely popularised. There are lots of these summaries from many posters on TiU
going back to 2008 and I have captioned my more recent ones with Book Blurb in
the title to group them.

Ognir [@32:55 appx] 1997 video of Alex Jones giving his full support accepting the
pledge for Israel - released about 6 months ago. Jones is a shill. Rafiq's metaphor
following thereafter of AJ as a boom containing the swell of growing awareness,
an information barrier. AJ can only be successful if he is in tune with where the mean
average is at themselves. If he does not move with his listenership he will be at odds
with them and lose credibility. They can compare information from other sources and
awareness expands. Do the wayback machine search on The French Connection and
see the message has been consistent for 4-5-6 years unlike Rense, Rivero, AJ et al.

DBS [@56appx onwards] Discussion about the Ashkenazi / Sephardim: some good
new insights here. The Sephardim have been heavily involved as the aristos of the
criminal network, for example Menasseh ben Israel's funding of Cromwell and the
latter's war on the Irish which has led to centuries of internecine bloodshed and
which continues to this day and indeed may be about to enter into a resurgence.

Rafiq quoting from book "Rothschild: A History of Wealth And Power": recounts the
arrival in England of Rothschild in 1810 to review the Manchester cotton industry.
The Ashkenazi kept themselves separate from Sephardim to cover up their incest,
wife swapping and other evil actions and beliefs. Sabbatean, Frankists (Jacob Frank 1726-1791),
Shabbatai-Zevi (1626-1676) etc. Two groups historically separate.

Observation: the origin of the Jews is a subject worthy of a competent professional
academic researcher. One suspects such work has been done in the past and been
suppressed. Possibilities on their true origin include that expressed in the following
extract. Naturally this excludes the Khazar infusion and the possibility of other
non-semitic contributions e.g. from Asia Minor, Berber conversions in North Africa etc.
Perhaps Sands's recent book on the construction of the Jewish people casts some
light? Anyone read it and can comment? Look also at the Book Blurb on Eustace Mullins'
"Mullins' New History of the Jews", again in Sanctum - Must reads for his amplification of
details on the Hebes' provenance.

--------------
Jacob Elon Conner, A.B., Ph.D.:
CHRIST WAS NOT A JEW: An Epistle to the Gentiles
(published privately 1936 and currently banned from importation into Canada
as "hate" speech)


"PREFACE:

I must emphasize the fact that Judaism and the Jews is primarily a
collective problem. We are obliged to "indict a whole race," since it
is a concrete racial challenge that is before us. Individual exceptions
are of secondary concern, and must wait till the larger issue is disposed of.

If any hold otherwise the burden of proof tests upon themselves, that
much can be shown without going outside of the Old Testament; and
backed up by historical analysis and the revelations of archeology and
anthropology, there is logically no room for doubt that Galileans and
Judeans were no more than neighbors to each others from the time of
Rehoboam, son of Solomon, with Judaism as a common cult or 'religion'
between them, down to the time of Christ.

Individuals are moreover a matter of individual and personal relationships,
and the adjustments thereof require much time and attention. Organized
society is also an individual, collectively speaking, and its demands are
immediate, especially whenever a coup d'etat is threatened. We can not
stop to ask if there are any well disposed persons among those who
challenge us and put us to our proofs, especially when they maintain an
alien attitude toward our social, political and religious ideals.

A race is not to be judged by its best nor its worst, nor by a chance neighbor
or acquaintance whom one may like or dislike. Hence, in this case we must
rule out the Hebrew prophets just as we do the Jewish criminals of the
present day, and likewise the Jews whom we happen to know as
individuals--the few among the millions. In a word, Judaism and Jews must
be judged by racial ideals, and adherence to those ideals in mass. As
Gentiles, as Americans, we ask no more for ourselves, and within our own
domain it is our right and our duty to resist whatever is hostile thereto."


"Chapter V
WHENCE CAME THE HEBREWS?:

Of all the Semites who invaded the fertile crescent the Hebrews were the latest.
Authentic history is wanting on the subject till a much later date than that of the
legendary Abraham, who is represented as having come from "Ur of the Chaldees."
Now, the Chaldeeans were the successors of the Sumerians in point of occupation
of the Land of Sumer, and to be reported as one coming from "Ur of the Chaldees"
is equivalent to deriving Abraham, and consequently the alleged descendants of
Abraham, from a center of high civilization. This is a favorite device in literature,
as readers of Vergil are aware, for providing a distinguished line of descent, and
thus adding lustre to the entire race. But there is no sufficient reason to suppose
that the Hebrews came elsewhere than by way of Arabia from regions more
remotely southward. Tacitus, [1--Tacitus, "Histories," Vol. II, p. 264 ff.] the Roman
historian (A.D. 55-120), commenting on the origin of the Jews, has this to say:
"Some state that they are the progeny of the Ethiopians," and Strabo, the most
distinguished geographer of antiquity, supports this view and says that Moses
was an Egyptian.

The remark of Tacitus is by no means a wild surmise, owing to the proximity of
Arabia to Ethiopia, with only a twenty-mile strait between them. Moreover, scientific
opinion, based upon the blood test, can be cited in support of the statement as to
the African origin of the Hebrews. Furthermore, it is a well-known fact that the
Hebrews were never popular with other Semites, and the same antipathy persists
to the present day. The Arab may be conquered and his land overrun by the enemy,
but he does not abandon it--barren and unfruitful as it is--for it is his ancestral
homeland, and to leave it would mean the loss of a quality that prevents him from
becoming a parasite--an international nomad.


THEIR FLIGHT FROM EGYPT

In preparation for their hasty flight from Egypt we have an illustration of Hebrew
ethics on a racial scale by their own confession. They tell unblushingly of how
they "spoiled the Egyptians"--in plain speech, they stole from them "jewels of
gold and jewels of silver, and fine raiment," and that, too, after Joseph in the
capacity of a grain speculator had brought down on himself the condemnation
of the people of Egypt for inordinate greed. Worse than all this--such wholesale
thievery was at the command and under the immediate direction of the deity that
they worshipped! Do the Jewish rabbis of the present day defend such rascality?
And what is more to the point, do Christian people still condone it, as many of
them used to do, on the ground that the people of Israel were "the Lord's chosen,"
and of course they could do no wrong! Can they imagine that Christ would not
abhor such villainy? Yet this shameful proceeding was the occasion for the origin
of the Passover feast, their greatest solemnity. Many a skeptical small boy has
given his Sunday-school teacher a hard time of it, trying to explain things; for
what is the difference between such conduct and stealing marbles--or anything
else, and then blaming God for it?

Anyhow, they say that the Egyptians pursued them, not to recover the stolen
property as one might suppose that they would, but to bring back the Israelites,
whom nobody has ever wanted. But that is not all of this incredible narrative;
for, as they tell it, the Red Sea in a most accommodating manner facilitated
the escape of the thieves by opening up all the way across and allowing them
to pass dry-shod to the other side, then, with most obliging alacrity, swallowing
Pharaoh and his whole army. Could the Arabian Nights beat that! And now for
the sequel to this amazing invention: some of us can remember what a stir was
created not many years ago when the mummy of this same Pharaoh was found
decently buried in Egypt, and never had been at the bottom of the Red Sea at all.
What a pity that we have no Egyptian account of these remarkable phenomena!"

[maz]

For me, the best show since the survival show, where you guys broke down how the media is used to subvert and pervert.  Thanks for the effort and the good work.