Americans plans burn a quran day to mark 9/11

[superzebra]

A controversial Florida church known for publicly condemning what it considers sins plans to burn copies of Islam's holy book on the upcoming ninth anniversary of the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks.
The non-denominational Dove World Outreach Center, which has in the past joined the extremist Westboro Baptist Church in protesting homosexuality, is organizing the "International Burn A Quran Day" to oppose Islam, which it sees as a "violent and oppressive religion."

"We only did it because we felt there needed to be an outcry against Islam, because Islam is presenting itself as a religion of peace," explained Dr. Terry Jones, senior pastor of Dove World Outreach Center, to The Christian Post on Tuesday.

"We see the effects of Islam on Europe. As it has done nothing, Islam is beginning to take over there," he added.

Participants of the burning plan to light up Qurans on the church property to remember the victims of 9/11 and to "stand against the evil of Islam," according to the group's Facebook.

The Council on American-Islam Relations (CAIR), the nation's largest Muslim advocacy group, has responded to news of the "International Burn A Quran Day" by announcing an educational "Share the Quran" dinner on Sept. 11, which falls during Ramadan.

"American Muslims and other people of conscience should support positive educational efforts to prevent the spread of Islamophobia," remarked Ibrahim Hooper, national communications director of CAIR.

Last year, the Gainesville, Fla.-based Dove World Outreach Center put up a sign on its property that read "Islam is of the Devil." Not surprisingly, the sign triggered an uproar in the neighborhood, with residents calling the sign hateful. Jones said there were threats to burn down the church and death threats against the church leaders as a result.

When asked if he has ever participated in interfaith dialogues, Jones said "of course" and said he has talked to the CAIR director in Tampa, Fla. He also said he has invited Muslims to come to the 9/11 Quran burning event and is willing to dialogue with them during the activity.

Jones emphasizes that his church does not just speak out about Islam but also homosexuality, same-sex marriage, and abortion.

To Christian critics who say the Quran burning event is not the way to show Christian love to Muslims, Jones' response is they should stop criticizing and find another way to raise awareness about Islam or to share the Gospel.

"Most people who criticize are also the people who don't do anything," said Jones. "If they do not like our method – they don't have to like our method, they don't have to adopt our method – then they should do something themselves," he said, proposing they go door-to-door to distribute Christian literature about the love of Jesus.

A survey released by LifeWay Research in April found that 42 percent of Protestant pastors believe Islam "promotes violence" and more than half agree with a statement by well-known evangelist Franklin Graham, who said Islam is an "evil" religion.

Pastors from mainline denominations, the survey found, were more likely to hold a positive view of Islam.

Despite their views about Islam, however, six in ten pastors agree that Christianity and Islam should try to co-exist in the United States.

"We should not say that Protestant pastors are uniform in their view and in no way does this study show they think that Muslims are bad people, but it does show concerns about the religion and its impact," commented Scott McConnell, associate director of LifeWay Research.


http://www.christianpost.com/article/20100728/fla-church-plans-burn-a-quran-day-on-9-11/

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[jai_mann]

Who wants to bet that the pastor is a damned mason? It's the stinking masons and jews who are pushing this islam phobia. They want this war in Iran and all of the middle east bad.

Ever notice how, at least at the moment, the masons and jews don't give a shit about the muslims all through Malaysia and other currently, non-geostrategic regions? They're so transparent. Then there's the PNAC papers spelling out their plans. Keep screaming from the roof tops folks. These nuts are already in full fledged war against the masses. Drugging, vaccinating, poisoning, etc. They need to be put down like the sick dogs they are.

[pas]

In Holland too.

There is this jewish/christian pastor from my town who advocates the same.
Earlier he hired an airplane-banner saying "Christianity is the only way" to fly over a mosk that was opened that day and he was seen waving an israeli flag on a pro-Palestinian demonstation.
Also he does lectures about how evil and violent the Muslim faith is.

Not a word about the talmud though...

[Negentropic]

Who wants to bet that the pastor is a damned mason? It's the stinking masons and jews who are pushing this islam phobia. They want this war in Iran and all of the middle east bad.

Ever notice how, at least at the moment, the masons and jews don't give a shit about the muslims all through Malaysia and other currently, non-geostrategic regions? They're so transparent. Then there's the PNAC papers spelling out their plans. Keep screaming from the roof tops folks. These nuts are already in full fledged war against the masses. Drugging, vaccinating, poisoning, etc. They need to be put down like the sick dogs they are.

Then how do you explain Ahmedinejad and the Mullahs giving them the perfect excuse for Western demonization and all-out attack on cue at every turn.  By your logic Ahmedinajacket and the Mullahs are also either Masons or Jews because they're playing right into the hand of the Yids & the Yanks and a Yid & Yank attack and sure blood-sacrifice and massacre of millions of  innocent and already plenty-opressed Iranians (by the Mullahs and Ahmedinajad's own Khomeini-descended reign of terror; don't ever forget that this is an even more brutal dictatorship than Saddam's Iraq ever was). These fucking Mullahs will do nothing but force the massacre of millions of their own innocent people.  No Iranian civilian living under  the Mullah-reign-of-terror wants this, devout or not devout, but by manipulating the majority devout common people against the more moderate or liberal Muslims during the last days of the Shah they were able to get their dictatorship and by doing the same they will get their blood-masscare.  

I now tons of Iranians right here in L.A.(my dad's an Armenian-Iranian himself, born and raised) and they're almost 100% of them against the Mullah regime but also about 90%against any Yid-&-Yank attack on Iran, not because of the fucking Mullahs (if they could push a button and make all the Mullahs and Ahmedinajackturd disappear in a cloud of their own putrid farts while leaving the rest of the Iranian People intact they wouldn't hesitate for one second), but because they don't want to see their innocent brothers and sisters massacred yet again (as if the 8 year Iran-Iraq war of 500,00 plus casualties wasn't enough). If the Mullahs and Ahmedinajackturd were really sincere in their dedication to the human rights of the Iranian people, first they would immediately stop violating them themselves with barbaric sharia laws and moderate their country into something like Turkey and immediately stop that nuclear program bullshit.  What the hell do they need a nuclear program for anyway, fuck electricity! You can get electricity plenty of other ways that don't risk millions of Iranian lives through potential attack by shithead Yids & Yanks (borrowing a term from MSMD Yiddy Yoda with gleeful impunity). Once you stop the nuclear program and moderate  into something like Turkey or better yet stop violating individual rights altogether  no matter what a crazy-fuck so-called 'Imam' like the Ayatollah said the Qu'ran said, you're on far safer ground.  Would the Yids & the Yanks still be able to use the Ayatollah archetype and symbol and the Mushroom Cloud symbol to demonize them in the brainwashed heads of the West and make it an excuse to commence with "Operation Yiddy Iranian Freedom?"  About as much as they can use it to attack Turkey (not that they need to, they've owned Turkey's ass for close to a century now). Can they be trusted not to attack if Iran was as moderate as Turkey?  Fuck No!! Of course not!!  When the hell can the Jews and their attack dogs ever be trusted?  But if and when they do attack then, they will be a thousand times more condemned by all individual-human-rights-advocating people the world over and maybe even a Ted--Nugent-type scumbag redneck or two. I stress individual-rights because 'human rights' without guaranteed individual rights is an empty and much-too-flexible concept. This wouldn't get the Mullahs and Ahemedinashitcrust off the hook for all their non-stop individual  human rights violations of the last 30 years but it would at least make them half-as-human as the Shah, who, in the years before he was axed, was trying to turn his country into a Western-style democracy and end that Mossad-CIA-Trained-Savak-Enforced fascist bullshit he had collaborated with to keep power.


March 8, 1979 Iranian Women March Against Hijab and Islamic Laws
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"Iranian woman living in Sweden telling a horrific story about the Islamic regime in her home country. In swedish with english subtitles .

This is a short clip from the film: Sweden - Children of Islam (2007) by Journeyman Pictures
You can get the DVD here:
http://www.journeyman.tv/?lid=57715&q...
Iranian woman jailed and raped for not wearing Hijab

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Iranian Heavy Metalheads in Tehran talking about how much they love the Islamic republic, among other things:  
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Persian love - Holger Czukay
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[superzebra]

negentropic,

i do not understand you.

in yes or no questions.
do u support burn the quran day to mark 9/11?

why you are so anti isalmic anti mid-est ?
9/11 was israeli-mossad job not islamic.

[Negentropic]

negentropic,

i do not understand you.

in yes or no questions.
do u support burn the quran day to mark 9/11?

why you are so anti isalmic anti mid-est ?
9/11 was israeli-mossad job not islamic.

Short answer: Fuck No -- longer answer read on:  

I don't support burning the Koran any more than I support burning the Bible or any other book for that matter. I don't support burning Hitler's "Mein Kampf," Khomeini's disgusting books, Hustler magazine, gay porn or the Marquis de Sade's perverted books either. That doesn't mean I like them. I am for free-speech and individual rights. I don't deny that there are many great things said in the Koran and the Bible and all religious books that benefit humanity but I also don't deny that plenty of things said in religious books are harmful and sometimes even downright poisonous. To the extent that certain interpretations of the Koran, like Khomeini's and Ahmendinejad's, violate INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS, i am totally against it.  If you cannot have an Islamic state without violating individual rights, without making women second-class citizens, without brutally opressive laws like prison terms, canings, lashings and death (sometimes by stoning) for something like adultery or homosexuality or having long hair or not wearing a head scarf, things which are not even considered minor offenses in Western countries much less crimes,  then you should not have an Islamic state. There is no such thing as the right to practice one's so-called 'religion' if the tenets of that religion violate individual rights. If they don't then fine, if NOT, then the religious people become the criminals and not the citizens who are not religious enough.  i personally don't give a fuck about religion, I feel that it causes more problems than it solves; I take what's good about whatever religion there is, Budhhist, Christian, Muslim, Hindu, Sunni, Muslim, Bahai, whatever, and discard the rest.  Let's all come together over INDIVDUAL RIGHTS (the individual is the smallest minority as Ayn Rand, CSR's favorite speed-taking philosopher    identified) over and above all non-existent 'group' rights (which don't exist anyway, only indivduals do who form the groups, each group, no matter how small or large is just a collection of individual human beings) and stop all this warring between religions. Any religion that can be practiced without clashing with INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS is acceptable to civilized human beings, anything else is for Idiots at best and savages and barbarians at worst.  The reason the founding fathers of America separated state and religion is precisely because a state based on religious faith and not philsophy, logic, reason and scientific method often finds 'reasons' or god-given excuses to violate inalienable individual rights.  They learned this from history and even though many of them were Christians, they made sure that the constitution they wrote protected them from misinterpretations and abuses of Christianitiy itself. Islam should do exactly the same. Separate Mosque and State the same way Christians separated Church and State.  :up:


Girl in Iran is Arrested on the Street for wearing Shoes "Too Sexy"

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Arrest of Iranian girl for not wearing head scarf properly ! April 2007 Tehran

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Ahmadinejad comments on Human Rights??
That one heavy metal iranian with long-hair in the previously posted video better be careful or he might end up like this guy:  

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[jai_mann]

Then how do you explain Ahmedinejad and the Mullahs giving them the perfect excuse for Western demonization and all-out attack on cue at every turn.  By your logic Ahmedinajacket and the Mullahs are also either Masons or Jews because they're playing right into the hand of the Yids & the Yanks and a Yid & Yank attack and sure blood-sacrifice and massacre of millions of  innocent and already plenty-opressed Iranians (by the Mullahs and Ahmedinajad's own Khomeini-descended reign of terror; don't ever forget that this is an even more brutal dictatorship than Saddam's Iraq ever was).

Yes, Ahmedinajad IS a mason or a member of one of the affiliated secret societies. For having so much concern about this guy how the fuck have you missed him throwing up the secret society hand gestures? And this notion of a perfect excuse is pure bullshit. Do you really think that the liars behind the main stream media are incapable of contriving their own bullshit excuses if an opponent isn't a member of "controlled" opposition? What makes you think they're playing into some ones hands? Why can't they be actively participating members in the conspiracy? Hello? They're all throwing up the same fucking hand signs McFly.

If the Iranians don't want to live under the Mullahs, then perhaps, as in America and other lands, the common folk ought to fucking hang the SOBs and get it over with.

Sitting around and bitching about problems doesn't resolve shit. If people want the masonic societies out of their lives then they'll have to take action other wise the actions of the Masons/Jews will continue to permeate their lives.

[jai_mann]

The reason the founding fathers of America separated state and religion is precisely because a state based on religious faith and not philsophy, logic, reason and scientific method often finds 'reasons' or god-given excuses to violate inalienable individual rights.  They learned this from history and even though many of them were Christians, they made sure that the constitution they wrote protected them from misinterpretations and abuses of Christianitiy itself. Islam should do exactly the same. Separate Mosque and State the same way Christians separated Church and State.  :up:

Sorry, but the so called founding fathers were masons and the reason for separation of church and state was to get a foot hold over a new means of behavioral control over the populace. In particular, one which was devoid of ethical standards. It's fuckign ridiculous to buy into this bullshit that the scientific method is some how non-biased, as it is CARRIED OUT BY INHERENTLY BIASED ORGANISMS. It's constantly used as a tool to snooker the foolish who do not question the methods, funders, and potential manipulative roles that certain touted studies contain. The last I checked, the masons and jews were still at the top of the contrived behavioral control mechanism called government, and they seem to be enjoying the raping of the common folk with their twisted logic that is devoid of any morals. The last I checked Masons and Jews use religion as a cover for their activities. You didn't hear about the so called "christian" masons stealing opium from the ships during the boston tea party did you? Of course not, because if that was in the history books then people wouldn't be such fucking idiots and buy into the brain washing with the favorite little conditioned phrase "founding fathers". The founding fathers were merely a gang of criminals who forced THEIR ideology upon the masses and what we see present day is the fruition of 200 years of them subverting the common folk.

Yeh, let's create a separate power structure to force the masses to adhere to all the BULLSHIT that the new power structure will throw at them. I've got a better idea, how about people drop the notion of having others govern their behavior. What you promote strongly benefits the masons and jews. Are you a mason or a jew?

[§N9sh2bj]

who is going to look into the background of 'Dr. Terry Jones' or is it even necessary?

Clearly, the MSM/rothschild et al network is loosing it's ass and pulling out all the stops to usher in their anti-christ as quickly as possible.

what a bunch of tards.


_____
And do you know when you are annoying and have weird points enough there is such a thing as an 'ignore' list?
please stop using ghetto logic on the forum. you have been asked now think a bit about your blathering while at the tel aviv water cooler.  :shh: I won't tell.

[Ahmed]

Attention seeking Zionist stooge, wouldn't surprise me if this 'Pastor' was pulling a Tony Alamo scam, probably some Baphomet sketches and six pointed Yantras on his basement wall.

Rothschild and Zionism is on the back foot to such an extent, that they need to wheel out this decrepit charlatan to do their bidding. A majority of Chrisitans in Florida seem to oppose this lunatic fringe quite openly (e.g. protests outside their hangout etc).

Talmudic enablers like Jones are about as novel to people in the know, as a blocked toilet is to a plumber: 'Pastor' Jones and his partner Sylvia are apparently wanted for fraud and embezzlement in Germany. Jones fled back to the U.S. and was consequently fired from The Christliche Gemeinde Köln church group in Cologne. Financial irregularities concerning exploitation of foreign nationals from Germany have also come to light. These German workers came to America to help the church, but found themselves entrenched as slave labour for Jones's private e-bay  businesses 'tsandcompany' and 'artcollector-usa' (both profit making endevours run through the not-for-profit ministry) . Terry Jones's wife; Dolores Northrup, left Jones's congregation after becoming disillusioned with the cult's dogma and practices.

'Pastor' Jones is also affilitated with the Israel Covenant Alliances 3rd Jerusalem Assembly / AMI tour operators, and earlier this year led a 'Pilgrimage to Israel'.

http://www.wcjb.com/news/4302/anti-islamic-sign-follow-up