Iran official: We have obtained the S-300 missile system

[MonkeySeeMonkeyDo]

I must have struck a nerve. This Talmud-head is going bat-shit.  :lol:  :lol:

Hey, Negenfuckhead, why are you wasting your time here? Go get yourself a fucking rifle and head over to Iran if you think they're so bad. What are you waiting for? Or are you one of these chicken-hawks who will chant and cheer for war but never go and fight it himself? Yup, coward Talmudic skum is what you are.

[Negentropic]

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Negentropic wrote:
For a country that hasn't let the Talmudists in, it's one fucked up, repressive, backwards and medieval place that's for sure. The only thing missing is burning people at the stake.

Ahmed wrote:

Altogether now...



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When you have no more arguments, when you cannot reason your way out of a corner, resort to ad hominem attacks and name-calling and name-calling through association. Name calling can be done both ways but I won't resort to your sad and obviously impotent tactics.

I expected more out of you Ahmed but I see you're no better in your methods than the Jews you fight, fighting not because you hate all tyranny but only to establish your your own brand of Islamic tyranny!  Isn't that nice? Sugar & spice? Fighting disco dollies for a life a vice?

I presented all the evidence to back up calling the Islamic Iranian Regime FUCKED UP, REPRESSIVE, BACKWARDS & MEDIEVAL.  This is just an analysis of their internal tyranny, it's 100% an advocacy of regime change into the civilized and non-medieval but not through war, mass-murder or any kind of invasion and occupation by the external tyrants of the U.S. and israel and England, CIA, Mossad & MI6, all of whom work for the international Zionist-Jew bankster elites and not for the people of their respective countries. Only the Iranians themselves have the right to use violent means to overthrow their own tyrants and no one else who has no business being there. But Since you chose to ignore all of that thoroughly damning data in its entirety, let me present them again for your joyous re-discovery and breathless excitement.

Which one of these Islamic Iranian laws do you not consider at the very least repressive, backwards, fucked-up and medieval? These are only some of the laws applying to women. Is there a single one that's not backwards or repressive? Let me see you choose one and defend it without looking like a medieval sadist.



Islamic Republic of Iran: Penal Code Excerpts Relating to Women

http://www.learningpartnership.org/reso ... allaw/iran

Source: Afkhami, Mahnaz and Erika Friedl, eds. In the Eye of the Storm: Women in Post-Revolutionary Iran. Syracuse, New York: Syracuse University Press, 1994.

Pursuant to Article 85 of the Constitution of the Islamic Republic, the Islamic Penal Code was passed by the Judiciary Committee of the Islamic Consultative Assembly on 8 Mordad 1370 (30 July 1991) and was subsequently approved by the Council on the Determination of the Regime's Welfare (Majma'-e Tashkhis-e Maslehat-e Nezam) on 7 Azar 1370 (28 November 1991) and was received on 30 Azar 1370 (21 December 1991) by President Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani for implementation.

The Code contains four basic sections: general, hodud (punishment prescribed in religious law; singular, hadd), qasas (retribution), and diyeh (money paid in lieu of criminal damage). Article 12 of the Code establishes criminal punishments as follows.

Punishments established by this law are of five kinds: (1) Hodud; (2) Qasas; (3) Diyat; (4) Ta'zirat; (5) Prohibitive punishments.

Each category is then defined. Hadd is a punishment whose kind, extent, and quality are defined in the shari'a (religious law). Qasas is a punishment that is inflicted on the condemned criminal and must be equal to the crime committed. Diyeh is the amount of money or property that the religious law-giver has determined for the crime. Ta'zir is a punishment the kind and extent of which are not defined in the law and therefore are left to the judge's discretion. Prohibitive punishments are punishments established by the government against civil and other wrong-doings for the purpose of maintaining peace and social tranquility.

Crimes that require hadd punishments include adultery, male homosexuality, lesbianism, sexual procurement, accusations of adultery or homosexuality, use of alcoholic beverages, fighting, corruption on earth, and robbery. Qasas is used in cases of homicide or damage to bodily organs. Diyeh is used when a crime against life or a bodily organ has been committed. The Code details the extent, amount, and conditions of qasas and payment of diyeh in relation to practically all parts of the human body.

This section contains articles and sub-articles in the code that specifically concern women. The materials presented are representative rather than inclusive.

Hodud (Punishment prescribed in religious law)

Article 63. Adultery is the act of intercourse, including anal intercourse, between a man and a woman who are forbidden to each other, unless the act is committed unwittingly.

Article 64. Adultery shall be punishable (subject to hadd) when the adulterer or the adulteress is of age, sane, in control of his or her action and cognizant of the illicit nature of his or her act.

Article 65. Only the adulterer or the adulteress who is cognizant of the illicit nature of his or her act shall be punished for adultery.

Article 66. If either the adulterer or the adulteress claims ignorance of law or fact, he or she shall not be punished for adultery if his or her claim is presumed to have prima facie validity, even if no witnesses to verify said claim are produced.

Article 67. If either the adulterer or the adulteress claims to have been under duress while committing the act of adultery, he or she shall not be punished if his or her claim is not otherwise clearly disproved.

Article 68. If a man or a woman repeats his or her confession of adultery four times before the judge, he or she shall receive the designated punishment, but if he or she repeats his or her confession fewer than four times, the punishment shall be at the judge's discretion.

Article 73. Pregnancy of an unmarried woman shall not by itself be the cause of punishment unless relevant evidence, as defined in this code, proves that she has committed the act of adultery.

Article 74. Adultery, whether punishable by flogging or stoning, may be proven by the testimony of four just men or that of three just men and two just women.

Article 75. If adultery is punishable only by flogging it can be proven by the testimony of two just men and four just women.

Article 76. The testimony of women alone or in conjunction with the testimony of only one just man shall not prove adultery but it shall constitute false accusation which is a punishable act.

Article 81. If the adulterer or the adulteress repents prior to confessing to the act of adultery, he or she shall not be punished (subject to hadd). If, however, he or she repents following his or her confession the punishment for adultery shall apply.

Article 82. The penalty for adultery in the following cases shall be death, regardless of the age or marital status of the culprit: (1) Adultery with one's consanguineous relatives (close blood relatives forbidden to each other by religious law); (2) Adultery with one's stepmother in which the adulterer's punishment shall be death; (3) Adultery between a non-Muslim man and a Muslim woman, in which case the adulterer (non-Muslim man) shall receive the death penalty; (4) Forcible rape, in which case the rapist shall receive the death penalty.

Article 83. Adultery in the following cases shall be punishable by stoning: (1) Adultery by a married man who is wedded to a permanent wife with whom he has had intercourse and may have intercourse when he so desires; (2) Adultery of a married woman with an adult man provided the woman is permanently married and has had intercourse with her husband and is able to do so again.

Note. Adultery of a married woman with a minor is punishable by flogging.

Article 84. Old married adulterers and adulteresses shall be flogged before being stoned.

Article 85. Revocable divorce shall not relieve the husband or wife from the bond of marriage during the waiting period whereas irrevocable divorce shall do so.

Article 86. Adultery of a permanently married man or a permanently married woman who does not have access to his or her spouse, due to travel, incarceration or similar impediments, shall not require stoning.

Article 88. The punishment for an unmarried adulterer or adulteress shall be one hundred lashes.

Article 90. If a man or a woman has committed the act of adultery several times and has been punished after each act, he or she shall be put to death following his or her fourth act of adultery.

Article 91. An adulteress shall not be punished while pregnant or in menstruation or when, following birth and in the absence of a guardian, the newborn's life is in danger. If, however, the newborn becomes the ward of a guardian the punishment shall be carried out.

Article 92. If the flogging of a pregnant woman or a woman nursing her child poses risks to the unborn or to the child respectively, the execution of the punishment shall be delayed until the said risk is no longer present.

Article 93. If an ailing woman or a woman in menstruation has been condemned to death or stoning, the punishment shall be carried out. If, however, she is condemned to flogging, the punishment shall be delayed until she is recovered or her menstruation period is over.

Article 100. The flogging of an adulterer shall be carried out while he is standing upright and his body bare except for his genitals. The lashes shall strike all parts of his body–- except his face, head and genitals-- with full force. The adulteress shall be flogged while she is seated and her clothing tightly bound to her body.

Article 102. The stoning of an adulterer or adulteress shall be carried out while each is placed in a hole and covered with soil, he up to his waist and she up to a line above her breasts.

Article 119. Testimony of women alone or in conjunction with that of a single man shall not prove sodomy.

Article 127. Lesbianism consists in genital sexual acts carried out between women.

Article 128. Evidence for proof of lesbianism and sodomy is the same.

Article 129. The punishment for lesbianism is a hundred lashes for both parties to the act.

Article 130. Punishment for lesbianism applies only to the person who is of age, sane, in control of her actions and who has been a willing party to the act of lesbianism.

Note. In the application of the penalty for lesbianism there shall be no distinction as to whether the culprit has been passive or active or as to whether she is a Muslim or non-Muslim.

Article 131. If the act of lesbianism has been repeated three times and punishment has been carried out each time, the death penalty shall apply if the act is committed a fourth time.

Article 132. If the perpetrator of the act of lesbianism repents prior to the testimony of witnesses, the penalty of hadd shall not apply. Repentance following the witnesses' testimony, however, shall not bar hadd punishment.

Article 133. If the act of lesbianism is proved through confession and the culprit repents afterwards, the judge may ask the supreme jurist (vali-ye amr) for waiver of punishment.

Article 134. If two women, who are not consanguineous, go under the same bed cover while nude and without justification, they shall be given fewer than one hundred lashes. In case of repetition of the act for a third time each shall be given one hundred lashes.

Article 138. The penalty for procurement is in the case of a male procurer 75 lashes and banishment between three months and a year and in the case of a female procurer only 75 lashes.

Article 140. The penalty for false accusation is 80 lashes regardless of the gender of the culprit.

Article 145. Any insult that causes indignation to the victim but which does not constitute false accusation of adultery or male homosexuality, such as when a husband tells his wife: 'You were not a virgin,' is punishable by up to 74 lashes.

Article 150. If the husband falsely accuses of adultery his deceased wife who is survived only by a child from him, no punishment shall apply. If, however, the said deceased wife is survived by inheritors other than the said child, the penalty shall apply.

Article 164. The right to demand punishment for false accusation belongs to all survivors except the husband and the wife. Any one of the survivors may demand the application of said punishment even if other survivors waive their right.

Article 174. The punishment for intoxication is 80 lashes for both men and women.

Article 176. When flogging is carried out, the man being flogged shall be in a standing position and be bared except for his genitals, whereas the woman being flogged shall be seated and her clothing tightly bound to her body.

Note. The face and head and genitals of the condemned shall not be struck by the lashes during flogging.

Qasas (Retribution)
Article 209. If a Muslim man commits first-degree murder against a Muslim woman, the penalty of retribution shall apply. The victim's next of kin, however, shall pay to the culprit half of his blood money before the act of retribution is carried out.

Article 210. If a non-Muslim commits first-degree murder against another non-Muslim, retribution shall apply even if the culprit and his or her victim profess to two different religions. In the said case, if the victim is a woman her next of kin shall pay the culprit half his blood money before retribution is carried out.

Article 237. (1) First degree murder shall be proven by testimony of two just men; (2) Evidence for second-degree murder or manslaughter shall consist in the testimony of two just men, or that of one just man and two just women, or the testimony of one just man and the sworn testimony of the accuser.

Article 243. The claimant [in the case of murder] may be either a man or a woman but in either case he or she must be one of the victim's inheritors.

Article 248. In case of doubt, first-degree murder may be proved by the sworn testimony of 50 men who must be sanguineous relatives of the claimant.

Note 2. If the number of the sworn testimonies does not reach 50, any of the male testifiers may repeat his oath as many times as it is necessary to constitute 50 testimonies.

Note 3. If the claimant cannot present any of his sanguineous male relatives to provide sworn testimony in support of his or her claim, the claimant may repeat the sworn testimony 50 times, even if she is a woman.

Article 258. If a man murders a woman, the woman's next of kin may ask for retribution if he pays the murderer half of his blood money or they may agree to a settlement whereby the murderer pays him an amount less or more than the victim's blood money.

Article 261. Only the inheritors of the victim of a murder shall have the option of retribution or pardon. The victim's husband or wife, however, shall have no say in either retribution, pardon or execution of the punishment.

Article 262. Retribution shall not be carried out against a pregnant woman. In said case, if post-delivery retribution endangers the newborn's survival it shall be delayed until such time as the child's life is no longer in danger.

Article 273. In retribution for injury to, or loss of, bodily organs men and women shall be treated equally. Thus, a male culprit who has maimed a woman or otherwise caused her bodily injury shall be subject to commensurate retribution unless the blood money for the lost organ is a third or more than a third of the full blood money, in which case the female victim pay the culprit half of the blood money for said organ.

Diyeh (Money paid in lieu of criminal damage)
Article 300. The blood money for the first- or second-degree murder of a Muslim woman is half of that of a murdered Muslim man.

Article 301. The blood money is the same for men and women except when it reaches a third of full blood money, in which case a woman's blood money shall be half of a man's.

Article 441. Defloration of a virgin by insertion of a finger that results in incontinence shall entitle the victim to her full blood money plus a sum equal to her potential dowry.

Article 459. In case of disagreement between the culprit and the victim, the testimony of two just male experts or that of one male expert and two just female experts asserting unrecoverable loss of sight or loss of sight for an indeterminate period shall entitle the victim to blood money. In the said case, the blood money is due the victim if the eyesight is not recovered at the time predicted by the experts, or if the victim dies before his or her eyesight is restored, or if someone else gouges his or her eye.

Article 478. If a man's reproductive organ is severed from the circumcision line or lower he shall be entitled to his full blood money, otherwise the amount of blood money shall be proportional to the size of the severed part.

Article 479. If a woman's genital is totally severed she shall be entitled to her full blood money and if only half of her genital is severed half of her blood money is due her.

Article 483. Compensation for injury to hand or foot caused by spear or bullet shall be 100 diners if the injured party is male and commensurate with the injury if the injured party is female.

Article 487. Section 6. Blood money for the aborted fetus which has taken in the human spirit shall be paid in full if it is male, one-half if it is female, and three-quarters if its gender is in doubt.

Article 488. If the fetus is destroyed as a result of its mother's murder its blood money shall be added to the blood money of its mother.

Article 489. If a woman aborts her fetus at any stage of pregnancy she shall pay its full blood money and no share of the blood money shall go to her.

Article 490. Separate blood monies shall be paid for each aborted fetus if more than one is involved in an abortion.

Article 491. Blood money for loss of limb of, or injuries to, the fetus shall be proportionate to its full blood money.

Article 492. The blood money for the aborted fetus in cases involving deliberate intent shall be paid by the culprit, otherwise by the fetus's next of kin


This is from a Leftist website:
Rape under a fundamentalist regime

http://www.iran-bulletin.org/women/RAPE.html

The Islamist movement''s "justice" and "liberation" excludes women, who are indeed explicitly discriminated against! A few examples from the Islamic Republic may help.

In the courts evidence of female witnesses is inadmissible unless accompanied by that of a male witness. Even then, the value of a female witness is half that by the male (Article 33 and 99 of the Law of Retribution: Hodoud and Ghesas, Section 2 of Article 237)

The diyeh (blood money) for a Muslim woman in cases of manslaughter and murder is half that of a Muslim man. (Article 300, Law of Retribution). If a male Muslim intentionally kills a Muslim woman, he is subject to retribution (an eye for an eye) but only if the guardian of the murdered woman pays him half of the diyeh to the murderer to make up the deficiency (Article 6 of Diyat, Article 209 Law of Retribution). The blood money payable to the murderer amounts to 50 camels or 100 cows or the equivalent (Article 3, Diyat).

A husband can kill his adulterous wife without punishment while a woman is punishable by death for a similar crime.

Before the law, women are not a complete person and their testimony is worth only half that of a man. These absurd efforts to place arbitrary and discriminatory values on women has serious repercussions on how women are thought of and treated by society.  

Extramarital sex is prohibited under Islamic law. To this extent Islam recognises rape as a crime. However rape taking place within the home and prisons is not considered rape and is therefore legal. It is this situation which I wish to address.

Upkeep for submission

The Koran (Nesa, 34:34) ascribes to men dominance over, but also responsibility for the women under their care. Women have to be given nafagheh (upkeep money), but in return must submit to their husband's will. If a woman disobeys her husband's will, he is instructed to separate their bed and to talk with his wife. If she continues to thwart his desires, he should hit her. The moment she stops disobeying, the punishment and sanctions for misbehaviour should stop. The Koran thus tells a man to respect his wife's rights, while also instructing him to abuse her.

Moreover women are sex objects. A man is permitted four "ordinary" wives and as many "temporary wives" (concubines) as he wishes. A Muslim woman cannot marry a non-Muslim (Article 1059 of the Civil Law) but a Muslim man can marry a non-Muslim . Together these laws create a permissive environment for legal rape.

I came across Simin in 1979. She was 19 years old and had been pursuing her divorce case through courts for the last four years. One day on returning from school her father told Simin point blank she had to marry a certain man. Simin, being only 15, had no intention of marrying. She was also in love with another man. Simin refused and her father firmly insisted. She ran away three times, hiding with relatives, yet her father found her and forced her to marry. Simin kept running away from her "husband". She could not stand living and sleeping with him and he hit her and raped her.
When I met her she was exhausted and despirited. Her family tried to help her get a divorce but the law did not permit it. The man followed her on the street and beat her. During the anarchy of the revolutionary days we formed a group to help Simin and in this way she was able to regain her freedom.

A man divorces his wife on any pretext (Article 1133, Civil Law). Women, on the other hand, can obtain divorce only under extreme circumstances: if the man is mentally ill, or impotent (Articles 1121 and 1122). Given that women cannot chose their partners and that once married it is near impossible to get divorced, this is clearly legal rape.

The age of marriage has been reduced for women from 18 to 9. All the harsh punishments prescribed under Islamic law are applicable to a 9-year old girl, whereas a 14 year old boy is still regarded underage and will not be subjected to such punishment until he is 15 (Paragraph 2, Article 1210, Civil Law). Furthermore, with the permission of the guardian (father or grandfather) and provided it is in the "best interest" of the ward, a girl can be married to a man even when she has not reached the age of consent, or indeed even when she is a baby girl (Article 1041 of Civil Law). This is legal child rape.

Religious rape

According to Islamic law the killing of a virgin woman is prohibited. This reflects the objectification of women. In prison, if a virgin woman is to be executed, she is first "married" (raped) by one of the guards before execution. Afterwards the guard goes to the woman's family and declares that she is their son-in-law. It is totally distinct from the process of obtaining confession or to humiliate the prisoner. The prison guards are simply obeying Islamic law.

Nadereh was educated in France and had been in touch with opposition groups against the Shah. On the eve of the revolution she returned to Iran to take part in the anti-dictatorial movement against the Shah. For Nadereh, like other Iranian intellectuals, it was vital to be present in this decisive historic struggle. During the revolution she worked for a socialist organisation.

She was arrested three years after the revolution. Although others with her alleged crime normally received a few years imprisonment, she was executed after a few month in prison. That was our first shock.

We discovered the reason later. In prison her interrogator took a fancy to her. She had more than once complained of her interrogator's advances towads her. When her case went to court, which consisted of one mullah as judge and no jury, the interrogator accused Nadereh of attempting to escape during her interrogation. The mullah accepted this obviously false charge and sentenced her to death. Both the mullah as the interrogator knew full well that this also gave the interrogator permission to rape Nadereh. The interrogator got what he wanted and fulfilled his religious duty in the bargain. Thousands of young women were executed in Iranian prisons (1), most of them were raped under Islamic law.

Shukuh Jalalie

1. A list of 1,400 has been collected and published by Iranian Political Prisoners Action Committee. Some were pregnant, many were under 17.

Negentropic wrote:
If that's what it takes to keep the Talmudists out then the cure is worse than the disease.

Ahmedinejacket, uhum, I mean, Ahmed, wrote:

A telling statement.

If 'the cure' is Ahmedinejad's Iran but the disease is even the post-Patriot-Act Obama's or George Bush's USA, which one would you choose to live under? If you would choose Iran, Ahmed, then that says a lot about you, because remember, you just chose every single one of those happy-snappy peace-&-harmony inducing Marquis-de-Sade-shaming laws I reposted for your enlightenment. Or let's say between Saudi Arabia or Iran. Excuse the scatalogical analogy but one is the shits (Iran), the other is the toilet bowl (Saudis), but the toilet bowl is still somewhat better than the shits. I mean would you rather be imprisoned for a long time in Dubai or Stoned to death in Iran?



Pretty fancy toilet don't you think?

Only between Ahmedinejad's Iran and Israhell, Stalinist Russia or Communist China would I pick the former. That's because the former might be the shits but the latter are the sewer itself.

Where do you live Ahmed ? Your decent command of English suggests a Western country but your ideas suggest the opposite. Would you rather live in Islamic fundamentalist Iran rather than the United States or Europe? If you would choose Iran, Ahmed, then that says a lot about you, because remember, you just chose every single one of those happy-snappy medieval laws I reposted for your joy and enlightenment.

And if yes, you would rather live in Islamic fundamentalist Iran, then why haven't you moved there to fight the Islamic battle from the home base? Aren't they the last frontier of anti-Zionist resistance? Wouldn't you just love the place and have the time-of-your-life over there? It's not hard to move there you know! They can use the help your help you know. Get out there, right now and show your support. Take that infantile MSMD Yiddy Yoda with you and make sure you take all the women in your family too, they will especially love the joyous atmosphere of love-&-freedom there!

Even those who praise Ahmedinejad's foreign diplomacy, rarely praise his dastardly regime or would ever consider going to live there themselves.


Your description of the popular, twice elected government in Iran, suggests that you've played into Zionist hands more than anyone.

It's not popular and it's not 'elected' anymore than any election with only two pre-chosen candidates can be 'popular' or 'elected.' Two sides of the same Islamic fundamentalist coin are forced upon the populace with no alternative of even a moderately liberal candidate. If the U.S. elections are far from popularly elected and fair then calling elections in the medieval circus that is Iran's political system 'popular' or fair is laughable.  Calling them the true voice of the people is complete ignorance of how a dictatorship functions.  Were Mao and Stalin too the voice of the people, Ahmed? Do you know that 20 million starved to death for Stalin and another 20 million fought and died for Stalin? Do you know how popular Chairman Mao was? Or are you going to say the communist party picked them and therefore they had no 'popular' support like Iran does because Iran has two candidates for head-honcho dictator and lets the people pick their own favorite bully? See how silly you sound?  

Ahmed the sadist wrote:
By acknowledging or repeating Zionist Jew clichés & lies, we're only conferring a sense of legitimacy to their nonsense. People have moved on and are more than capable of coming to their own conclusions / searching for the facts themselves.

The harshest Iranian law is still a million times better than anything in the Zionist Jew drafted U.S. Patriot Act II.

a million times better? Did I read that right? Are you sure you were mentally capable when you made that statement?

Let me ask you a question, Ahmed: do you have a conscience or do you just hate all women?

Are these the laws that you say are a million times better:  



Article 119. Testimony of women alone or in conjunction with that of a single man shall not prove sodomy.

Religious rape

According to Islamic law the killing of a virgin woman is prohibited. This reflects the objectification of women. In prison, if a virgin woman is to be executed, she is first "married" (raped) by one of the guards before execution. Afterwards the guard goes to the woman's family and declares that she is their son-in-law. It is totally distinct from the process of obtaining confession or to humiliate the prisoner. The prison guards are simply obeying Islamic law.

hmm, what righteous people they are, raping a virgin to obey the law! Give them a hand Ahmed, let me see you cheer them on!  :up:  :sick:


In the courts evidence of female witnesses is inadmissible unless accompanied by that of a male witness. Even then, the value of a female witness is half that by the male (Article 33 and 99 of the Law of Retribution: Hodoud and Ghesas, Section 2 of Article 237)


Article 131. If the act of lesbianism has been repeated three times and punishment has been carried out each time, the death penalty shall apply if the act is committed a fourth time.

Article 82. The penalty for adultery in the following cases shall be death, regardless of the age or marital status of the culprit: (1) Adultery with one's consanguineous relatives (close blood relatives forbidden to each other by religious law); (2) Adultery with one's stepmother in which the adulterer's punishment shall be death; (3) Adultery between a non-Muslim man and a Muslim woman, in which case the adulterer (non-Muslim man) shall receive the death penalty; (4) Forcible rape, in which case the rapist shall receive the death penalty.

Article 83. Adultery in the following cases shall be punishable by stoning: (1) Adultery by a married man who is wedded to a permanent wife with whom he has had intercourse and may have intercourse when he so desires; (2) Adultery of a married woman with an adult man provided the woman is permanently married and has had intercourse with her husband and is able to do so again.

Note. Adultery of a married woman with a minor is punishable by flogging.

Article 84. Old married adulterers and adulteresses shall be flogged before being stoned.


The diyeh (blood money) for a Muslim woman in cases of manslaughter and murder is half that of a Muslim man. (Article 300, Law of Retribution). If a male Muslim intentionally kills a Muslim woman, he is subject to retribution (an eye for an eye) but only if the guardian of the murdered woman pays him half of the diyeh to the murderer to make up the deficiency (Article 6 of Diyat, Article 209 Law of Retribution). The blood money payable to the murderer amounts to 50 camels or 100 cows or the equivalent (Article 3, Diyat).

A husband can kill his adulterous wife without punishment while a woman is punishable by death for a similar crime.

Negentropic wrote:
And yet there were all kinds of Europeans and Americans living permanently in Iran during the Shah's regime.

Ahmed wrote:
I don't measure a nation's worth or success based on how many Europeans choose to live there.

What do you judge it by, how many virgins they rape so that they're 'married' under Islamic law before execution?

Religious rape

According to Islamic law the killing of a virgin woman is prohibited. This reflects the objectification of women. In prison, if a virgin woman is to be executed, she is first "married" (raped) by one of the guards before execution. Afterwards the guard goes to the woman's family and declares that she is their son-in-law. It is totally distinct from the process of obtaining confession or to humiliate the prisoner. The prison guards are simply obeying Islamic law.

The number of Americans and Europeans living in a country is directly proportional to how many Islamic prison-rape laws to 'marry' virgins exist in a country or how likely you are to be taken and caned, lashed and tortured. So it's a good barometer of how much less repression existed under a CIA-Mossad puppet like the Shah rather than under a bunch of medieval Islamic butchers.  Neither regime is justified but CIA-Mossad involvement or not, the evidence speaks for itself, the Shah's tyranny was clearly a hundred times better than these fucking douchebag scum-of-the-earth Mullahs.

Negentropic wrote:
By the way, anti-usury and no interest allowed (actually they do still allow some interest in Iran under certain conditions) does not mean 'not stealing' for the thoroughly corrupt Mullahs Islamic republic; it just means different methods of stealing. The most glaringly obvious for anyone who understands economics is through inflation. Their central bank operates on Fiat currency with no gold or silver backing and the Mullahs take the role of the bankers and print their own money based on productivity indexes. The result is rampant inflation, much worse than anything in in fractional reserve banking countries. The Iranian inflation rate has always been in double digits and sometimes as high as 25%.

Ahmed posted and wrote:

In the article, Former Central Bank Governor Seyed Mohammad Hossein Adeli said President Ahmadinejad was
reverting to some more orthodox policies.

"He has helped the poor in some way with micro-attention," he said of the president's habit of touring the provinces, receiving petitions and trying to address problems directly.

"But if you go and spend money and have a huge expansionary fiscal policy without limits, it pushes inflationary pressures."


Iran is (if you believe the IMF) the 18th largest economy in the world and, God willing, on the up and up. In the time since that article was written, double-digit inflation is down and CPI up by 7%, which isn't bad. Also remember that Iran wasn't hit by the Rothschild instigated depression in 2009-10 since they've kept them at arm's length. And even U.S. sanctions aren't working the way the Zionists had hoped. There's always room for improvement, but overall, Iran's economic polices are infinitely better than the parasitic, fractional reserve banking policies that pummel the Western world into oblivion every few decades.

INFINITELY BETTER than Western countries ? Is this a sick joke? Do you have any idea what DOUBLE DIGIT INFLATION FOR 30 FUCKING YEARS MEANS? Do you have any idea what MASSIVE ROBBERY of the common people that automatically implies?  The United States has only ever had 4 years of Double Digit inflation in its entire history and is only facing the threat of it again now ! Iran has had it for 30 fucking years straight, nonstop !! And you call this INFINITELY BETTER? What planet are you from, Ahmed? Do they give out brains there with the Koran? Do you have any compassion whatsoever for your fellow common man or is any kind of mass robbery and brutality and oppression and rape ok by you as long as its done by other Moslems and not Jews?

Negentropic wrote:
Don't make me laugh. Kept the Rothschilds at bay?

Ahmed wrote:
Evidently so.

Negentropic wrote:
Hitler couldn't do it with help from Japan and Italy, but Khomeini's Iran with its rinky-tink two-bit army that couldn't even defeat Iraq after 8 years of insanity did?


Ahmed wrote:
Iraq was armed to the teeth by a long line of nations, two superpowers and NATO. Iran had to make some audacious moves to secure an arms supply line. Like we discussed earlier, Iran did a sterling job in cutting down Zionist Jew criminals in Lebanon, stemming the Franco-American troop build up and keeping the Soviets off their back the East. It was a hard eight years, but Iran showed true grit and courage under fire.

Oh yeah, Mr. Ahmed, let's just conveniently ignore and forget what I already posted and hope nobody will notice:

The deliberately prolonged (by Khomeini) 8 year massacre that was the Iran-Iraq war was funded on both sides by at least 26 countries

http://articles.latimes.com/1987-06-18/news/mn-8000_1_gulf-war

They were able to cut down Zionist Jews in Lebanon because the Israeli Jews are cowards, not because Hezbollah is that much of a threat. Against Hitler's armies of even 1939 Hezbollah wouldn't last 2 weeks; and if you take Hitler's armies' level of training and courage (Jewish German-trained soldiers included) and with high tech Israeli weapons courtesy of the United States, Hezbollah wouldn't last a week and all of Iran wouldn't have lasted a month. And yet, through cleverly playing the Americans and British and Russians against Hitler, they completely destroyed Germany, Japan and Italy. Remember that Iraq was occupied by the Americans and the 'coalition'  in a very short time and it's only deliberate fostering of turmoil and civil war and insurgency by bombings and shootings and death-squads and other methods in order to justify keeping the troops there permanently by the victors themselves (Israel, USA, England but especially Israel) is what has 'prolonged' the war and kept Iraq weak.  

Negentropic wrote:
Why did Iran release these hostages, kept for 444 days, only 20 minutes after Reagan was sworn in as President? What made them become such nice guys all of a sudden?


Ahmed wrote:
They weren't hostages but operatives actively supporting the criminal, Zionist Jew backed Shah dictatorship. A regime which was bought to power through terrorism, extortion and murder. Then in 1979 they attempted to exert unlawful influence over the new government; which proved to be a scheme too far.

Release was actually secured under Carter with the Algiers Accord but a deal was made to have it announced by Reagan. Certainly there was an admittted arms-for-operatives exchange as reported by the Tower Commission.

So, then by your own admission, the 'operatives' were taken hostage but even though they were 'operatives' or in other lingo called 'agents,' they were not executed but displayed in all fo the  World's media owned mostly by no one but the Elite Jews for 444 days straight, just like that, for no other reason than to show how brave and just the Iranians were, correct? And the Iranians were so smart, they used this opportunity to display to the entire world their heroism and gallantry by keeping the hostages, oops, sorry 'operatives,' for 444 days so that every Westerner could learn with daily repetition and habit to hate their guts with every last fiber of their body. And yet, all of a sudden, the Americans give them some arms and, Voilla!, no more hostages, just like a rabbit being pulled out of a hat!  I don't know about you but I can spot a friggin staged controlled opposition charade and farce when I see one.  

Released, I presume, because Iran's strategic objectives had all been achieved: Delta Force made its stunning debut in the Tabas desert, U.S. envoy Ramsey Clark was summoned to appear before the 'Crimes of America' tribunal in Tehran and Ayatollah Khomeini compelled the U.S. to return $8 million worth of stolen Iranian Gold.

8 million? Chicken feed is a phrase of exaggeration when talking about 8 million dollars. What is that like a drop in an ocean? I can name 10 Americans in 10 seconds that had 8 million of pocket change in 1979 to lose any time of the day in Las Vegas and not break a sweat and yet the Ayatollah Anushola, his great highness, had to 'compel' the 8 million dollars worth of Iranian Gold (made during the Shah's time by the way) back.  I'm sure the Rotchschilds sweated over that with their Trillions!  It's not even a flea-bite on their asses.

I don't know what the Delta Force farce was all about. It certainly made the millions of Westerners frustrated over the hostage crisis even more frustrated at the time, which was obviously the goal of media coverage, because if not, why not just marginalize it on the back pages?  I mean are 52 people so important?  The elites have killed millions in wars and not batted an eyelash, why would they allow their fully controlled media (moon-landing hoax already proved that in 1968) to make such a big deal out of 52 people? Think about it. If they really wanted the hostages out of the way, wouldn't it just be easier to marginalize the incident on the back pages and completely downplay it on Television and  then just go bomb the shit out of the place where the hostages were kept or even all of Tehran until they were released or more likely killed?  Would the American people blame the American government then for killing the hostages, those 52 poor souls suffering under savage conditions, when they barely even knew they existed? Of course, not. Even with all the massive media coverage there were plenty of Americans who advocated nuking Iran out of existence entirely just as retribution for 52 hostages in the same way as tons of Americans advocated nuking all moslem countries into parking lots after 2700 died on 9-11.  None of these people would have cared much for the 52 Americans once their blood-lust was satisfied. They would have blamed Iran for their deaths, said there was nothing else they could have done, given them tearful burials as heroes for freedom and taken some criticism for rash actions that got 52 people needlessly killed, blah, blah, blah, apologized for it and the whole thing would have been forgotten within a year.

But that wasn't the point. There was a major Psy-Op in progress. Americans were meant to feel helpless and impotent on a mass scale, in a way that built on the Vietnam humiliation of just a few years ago and the staged controlled opposition charade Iran was the vehicle, the stick the used to hit the dog of America with to get it trained for vicious attack . They were taunted and humiliated just like an attack dog is taunted and humiliated, in order to make them vicious and train them for attack on the new designated targets: Muslims. That's what equating all Muslims with Khomeini does.  If you go with Pavlov's conditioning: Khomeini was the meat, Muslims was the bell. After 444 days, no more meat, bell still gets rabid dog foaming at mouth. Media keeps ringing bell-foaming-mouth response functional by throwing in other stand-ins for the original Khomeini meat.  They are able to substitute Muslims with Towels on their heads and beards of one kind and another from all over the world for teh Khomeini meat and keep the Westerners foaming. After a while they ring the bell of Muslims and they get the response of 'terrorist' in the average Western head in addition to foaming. They replace Khomeini with Saddam and get the decades-in-the-making foaming-at-the-mouth Americans to finally blow off their steam and release all that frustration through aggression. The target is pointed to, the leash is let go and the dog attacks viciously. They attack and destroy this way without any reasonable proof being necessary, they consider the target already guilty through conditioning and association.

1980-88: With Iran's resolute and unwavering resistance against Talmudism, Zionist Jews in Lebanon hobbled back into occupied Palestine, their warped ideas of Eretz Israel all but shattered, The Kaabalah (i.e. masonry) exiled from Iranian land as Rothschild's other project (i.e. Communist Russia) was rattling like a shot exhaust in Afghanistan.

Not bad for 'controlled opposition'.

Talmudism very horrible, agreed . Raping virgins before killing them under Islamic law, stoning adulterers and gays and lesbians to death, cutting people's hands off for stealing, lashings and canings and beatings for having long hair or not being properly dressed, that's also very horrible, but somehow you don't agree? You seem to think it's just fine and dandy to violate people's rights in any vicious way possible, as long as it's for the noble cause of anti-Talmudism. The Jew-created communists said the same thing, as long as it was for the noble cause of anti-Imperialism. But you don't see the logical connection, do you? Conclusion: you're either ignorant or you must be a horrible person!  You are more and more convincing me of the latter.

By the way, horrible person, you should read what I wrote about how the game of 'controlled opposition' is likely to be played from behind the scenes before you take it out of context and pretend I said it's the usual puppet-dictator game of the silly obvious kind even people in junior high-school understand. It's a little bit more involved than that on the higher levels.

Negentropic wrote:
And how about the 500,000 to a million plus dead in the Iran-Iraq war that could have ended in 1982 but was kept running for another 6 years by Ahmedinejad's lunatic idol Khomeini trying to spread the Islamic revolution to the Shia majority in Iraq? That doesn't count? That's somehow forgivable? Or maybe, Iranians are justified in forcibly drafting and killing as many people as they did because they were defending their sacred territory from foreign invaders?

Ahmed wrote:
We went through this earlier; Saddam Hussein had no authority to end the war on reasonable terms, he didn't have the authority to start it either. Saddam was mercilessly exploited and incredibly naïve in aiding and abetting Zionist Jew owned Yanks. Think about it: Would a leader who has to ask some third rate Yank ambassador whether the U.S would mind if he retaliates against the tin pot dictatorship of Kuwait in 1990, have had any say whatsoever about calling the shots on a multi-national, billion dollar war crime like the invasion of Iran in 1982?

Iraq offered a settlement negotiation, Khomeini refused to even negotiate. Saddam being a puppet or not, the fact is Iraq offered, Khomeini refused. Khomeini wanted to spread the revolution to the Shia majority in Iraq by any means necessary, hundreds of thousands be damned, which proves what a ruthless butcher he was even more than the medieval Sharia laws installed as law of the land. Khomeini's actions resulted in 6 more years of massacre and hundreds of thousand more pointless deaths. That's what I was saying originally and thanks for confirming it for me: Khomeini and the Mullahs do not care one bit more about Iranian lives than the Americans care about Iraqi or Afghani lives when these lives are in conflict with their pursuit of power. Americans do care a little bit more about American lives though than Khomeini cared about Iranian lives, since much fewer Americans died even in the Vietnam massacre (75,000) than Iranians in the Iran-Iraq massacre (some 400,000 to 500,000) .

Negentropic wrote:
What do you mean by 'so-called' free? Americans were internally the example of freedom for the entire world for close to a hundred years. People from all countries and religions immigrated here and were welcomed as long as they abided by the constitution.

Ahmed wrote:
The Talmudic system, as you ought to know by now, isn't always a blowtorch to the head, it's a little drop of arsenic in your soda every day, until the day you look down and realize you've been eaten alive from the inside out. The U.S. has been an occupied criminal base of operations since 1913, and before but for a seven decade respite in 1836.

I agree that it's not a blowtorch to the head but that's because Americans cannot be given a blowtorch to the head until they had been weakened for a hundred years. It's still not a blowtorch to the head but it's starting to become one. Americans had the highest standard of living in the world until the 1970s, so it was a good ride while it lasted.  On the other hand, Islamic Iran was, from the beginning, more than a blowtorch to the head for Iranian citizens and you seem to be just fine with that as long as a Jew hand wasn't holding the blowtorch. Why is that, Mr. arsenic-in-your-soda?

Ahmed wrote:

My view based on the evidence available, is that the Talmudist criminal dogma took control of the U.S. in 1913. Obviously the parasite couldn't have burrowed so deep into the infrastructure without treasonous collaborators at the very top.

Let me say first off, that the establishment of the United States was a colonial crime built on plunder and genocide. I do acknowledge, however, that not all who emigrated there or attained positions of authority were criminals, or even shared the imperial ideas with which Europeans first seized the continent. There is diversity of thought and benevolence that exists amongst the people, and amongst individuals anywhere around the world.

1913: Talmudist Samuel Untermeyer blackmailed President Woodrow Wilson who conceded to the following demands:

Let the Rothschilds back into America to set up the Federal Reserve and control the economy.

Allow Jacob Schiff to establish the ADL.

Get Louis Dembitz Brandeis (Leader of Executive Committee for Zionist Affairs)
Appointed to the U.S. Supreme Court.

Inveigle as many Gentiles as possible into the Christian Zionism cult (Untermeyer's printing presses were rolling off kosher approved copies of the Schofield Bible en-masse a few years earlier).

"The Scofield Reference Bible was not to be just another translation, subverting minor passages a little at a time. No, Scofield produced a revolutionary book that radically changed the context of the King James Version. It was designed to create a subculture around a new worship icon, the modern State of Israel, a state that did not yet exist, but which was already on the drawing boards of the committed, well-funded authors of World Zionism."

The Source Of The Problem In The Mideast--Why Judeo-Christians Support War
By C. E. Carlson

1913: Zionism is injected into the American bloodstream, its venom courses through the veins of its host nation and takes almost immediate effect.

1914: World War I begins.

The rest is all blood and tears for the people. Until now.

Negentropic wrote:
Who the hell except other Muslims immigrated to Muslim countries?


Ahmed wrote:
I couldn't possibly say as I don't have those immigration figures to hand, perhaps you could tell us. And while you're at it, please tell me exactly where all these Muslim countries are, because I can only find about five that can call themselves Islamic with a straight face.


Negentropic wrote:
Even after the unconstitutional Patriot act, no woman in the USA is worth only half a man the way they are under Iranian Islamic law, as per the exact articles I posted above. Even 100 years ago when women could not vote and did not have full equality with men in the USA, nothing even remotely approaching the insane laws of Islamic Iran existed. No one was lashed a hundred times or caned as punishment. Thieves didn't have their hands cut off



Ahmed wrote:

Are you, at this time, suggesting that life was better under Zionist Jew control?  

Better than fucking Islamic Iran where your hands might get cut off with a rusty sword for stealing a piece of gum?  Where your hair gets burned by thugs for being not even as long as your shoulders? Of course! Zionist Jew control, as you already stated above, was for a hundred years only some arsenic in your drink, and therefore, Zionist Jew control, the way it happened in America since 1913, very slowly if inexorably but unable to exert itself to even a small fraction of its full extent at any one time, is eminently preferable to the blowtorch to the head of virgins being raped in prison by perverts so that they will be 'married' before being killed off of fucking barbaric Islamic fundamentalist Iran.


Religious rape

According to Islamic law the killing of a virgin woman is prohibited. This reflects the objectification of women. In prison, if a virgin woman is to be executed, she is first "married" (raped) by one of the guards before execution. Afterwards the guard goes to the woman's family and declares that she is their son-in-law. It is totally distinct from the process of obtaining confession or to humiliate the prisoner. The prison guards are simply obeying Islamic law.


Even the USA of today is still, even at this stage of Zionist decay, preferable to Shizzlamic Iran by a long friggin' shot!  Ken O'Keefe is the perfect example. He is a guy I respect a lot. Ken was born and raised in California and later burned his Ameican passport as protest for American foreign terrorism and took dual Palestinian and Irish citizenship. He is 100% against war and 100% against Zionism but does Ken go and live in Shizzlamic Iran? No, he lives in Zionist-Occupied London, which even with millions of cameras and a big-brother state is like water-in-the-desert compared to Ahmedinejad-dungeon-land.  So fuck Zionist Jews, fuck Talmudism and fuck Israhell but saying that does not eliminate degrees of tyranny in different countries and the degrees of tyranny, at least with Iran, have been increased like a blowtorch to the head, to use your own analogy. Tyranny and human rights abuse is completely fucked up and to be despised, Talmudic or not. You act like the Talmud invented tyranny. If yes, then what the fuck do you say about the Tyranny in Iran. It's an anti-Talmudic country according to you, right? And yet, it's a brutal tyranny, as already proven ten times on this very thread, using their own laws as evidence.  What I am suggesting is that you put your money where your mouth is and move to Iran and take MSMD Yiddy-Yoda with you. Then maybe we'll see you both on video getting a haircut like this:


[youtube:evopa51f]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YphdANokeqk[/youtube]evopa51f]
pretty damned good method actors aren't they?


or whipped in a public square like this for speaking out against the arrest of your sister who may be raped in jail by her jailers for not wearing the proper Islamic dress code:
 
[youtube:evopa51f]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7aLxywU-88[/youtube]evopa51f]
a staged performance to discredit the regime worthy of Marlon Brando isn't it?

I will live in Zionist-Occupied U.S.A and keep my U.S. citizenship and get all my haircuts without the use of fire, thank you very much, and even when I can't do that anymore I will fight for freedom right here in my own Mexican neighborhood rather in a shithole like Ahmedinejad's Iran that disgraces the very word freedom, much less fights for it. Does that mean I love Zionist tyranny? Fuck that shit! Being sane enough to know the difference between the sewer and the shithole, the shithole and the toilet itself and the toilet and the bathroom does not mean you support the sewer. All, even the bathroom, have bacteria from shit on them but the shit is tyranny of all kinds, including and especially the disgusting diarrea of Islamic fundamentalist tyranny, not just the dog-shit of Talmudic tyranny. Hitler's Germany, once you take the holohoax out of it, and the read the recollection of those who lived under it, you realize was a very clean toilet in terms of tyranny and maybe even a very clean big bathroom open to the living room. America , internally, is still the toilet, Iran is in the shithole of the toilet and has been since 1979, Israhell is in the shithole, mainly because of how it treats non-Jews, though not nearly as bad for Ashkenazi Jew Israelis as Iran is for its citizens, that's for sure. Soviet Russia, Communist China and most Jew-created communist countries were the sewer, that's for damn sure. If America is on its way to the sewer, then that's very bad and very sad but at this stage it's still surfing the waves of the toilet bowl.      

The Islamic revolution wasn't really a revolution at all IMO. But a counter-revolution that restored Iran's true identity and removed the Talmudic façade forced upon her like an iron mask of imperialism.

"Our revolution introduced a totally new thing into the world - not Marxist, not nationalistic, but religious. We could do nothing without Islam. I was not always religious, but now I see it's the only way we can make the changes. I say this as a scientist and as a sociologist."

Zahra Rahnavard

David H. Albert, Tell the American People: Perspectives on the Iranian Revolution (Philadelphia: Movement for a New Society, 1980) 155.

Bullshit! Nothing without Islam? What the fuck do you call the Byzantine empire? How about America in the post Andrew Jackson to 1913 years? You don't need fundamentalist savagery to kick Jews out of your country. But as the Islamic Iranian Mullahs themselves have shown, they kicked usury out so that they can steal money with double-digit fiat money inflation. No more bankers allowed, we play banker now, no interest, but we print the money and give the money to whoever we want to buy cheap goods while 50 million of you Iranian suckers get to pay high prices through double digit inflation later. They've used this racket for 30 years now, the pigs. Can you imagine how filthy rich they are in their holdings? And these pigs are considered 'revolutionaries' even by people sophisticated enough to follow Christopher Bollyn and Daryl Bradford Smith and Adrian Salbuchi and Eustace Mullins?  The height of absurdity  

Ahmed wrote:

"Through their participation in the Islamic Revolution, many of these women felt that they were casting off their passivity. They hadn't feel liberated by the Pahlavi regime. In fact, the regime inspired the opposite feelings in many women, feelings of repression, a lack of originality, and a general lack of control. They were forging their own identities through their opposition of the Shah and were standing up for their political beliefs. But most of all, the revolution shows us that these women were not a passive part of society. They took a direct interest and action in shaping the history of Iran."

Nesta Ramazani, "Women in Iran: The Revolutionary Ebb and Flow" Middle East Journal 47 (1993): 424.


"The women who contributed to the revolution were, and are, women in Islamic dress, not all made up like you, women who go around all uncovered. The coquettes who put on makeup and go into the street showing themselves off did not fight against the Shah. They never did anything good, not those. They do not know how to be useful, neither socially, nor politically, nor professionally."

Ayatollah Khomeini laying down the law with anti-Islamic polemicist Oriana Fallaci in January 1979



The Islamic Revolution saved Iran from a life of serfdom and tyranny, it may've been hard, perhaps even ruthless at times but the alternative doesn't bear thinking about; though all those Iranians who got it in the neck during that Zionist Jew backed dictatorship don't need to imagine anything. For Ben Gurion's 'Alliance of the Periphery', Eilat-Ashkelon pipeline and Project Flower were just the beginning of Rothschild's satanic plans had not that regime been ousted and its enablers removed. There are some Iranians who, in their mind, have legitimate reasons to oppose the ruling party and I respect their right to have those opinions heard in a civilised manner. But if they chose to ally themselves with Zionist Jew criminals and Talmudic enablers, then that's a choice which proves their real alliance lies not with their country, but to the Rothschild banner that sullies the skies over occupied Palestine.

Ah please! Save thet saved Iran from a life of serfdom and tyranny bullshit, will you? Ruthless at times? Are you tripping on drugs? Those absurdly medieval tyrannical laws I posted 5 times already operate 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365 days a year, Mr. arsenic-in-your drink!!  They don't go away for the 50 millions people who suffer under it because little Ahmed on little TIU chooses to ignore them.

The Shah's Iranians got it in the neck all right! And even though they got it in the neck the vast majority of the 500,000 who live in Los Angeles, I'd say over 98% and I say this on good authority, I've  lived in fucking L.A. for 30 years, and have known Iranian-Americans all my life, they would go back tomorrow if the Shah's giving-it-in-the-neck regime or something just as Zio-controlled and Westernized came back. They still would not necessarily think it was perfect and they sure as shit didn't under the Shah either but they loved their life under the Shah despite any and all abused and they hate the nearly complete lack of life under the Mullahs and its 100 times worse abuses. Islam will only gain respect as an anti-Zionist force when it itself starts respecting the individual rights of human beings and not until then. Until then it's just another tyranny fighting tyranny, one tribe fighting another tribe for different tribal methods of abusing their tribes-people.  

Negentropic wrote:
You fail to distinguish between the low-level game and the high-level game. Both levels exist at all times in bigshot world politics and sometimes even 3 or 4 compartmentalized levels tied to each other through one or two crucial links. Americans were channelling funds and doing this and that mischief? Well, of course! The low-level politicians and armies, the puppets in the game always have to be kept busy running aournd doing this and that for one cause or one country or religious belief or another. They wouldn't know what to do with themselves otherwise. Iran , Israhel or Palestine or anywhere else, the lower level bigshots on all sides believe they are doing it for the right cause just like the fools under the communist regimes thought they were fighting for the liberation of the proletariat or working man.


Ahmed wrote:

Rothschild affiliated groups and companies banned in Iran: 60

Rothschild affiliated groups and companies banned in U.S: 0

So you say and so you see on the surface but you just proved my point for me yourself. How in the fuck do you know that these companies:

US Has Given Over $100 BILLION To Companies Defying Its Policy On Iran

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/07/world ... ss&emc=rss

March 6, 2010

U.S. Enriches Companies Defying Its Policy on Iran

By JO BECKER and RON NIXON

The federal government has awarded more than $107 billion in contract payments, grants and other benefits over the past decade to foreign and multinational American companies while they were doing business in Iran, despite Washington's efforts to discourage investment there, records show.

That includes nearly $15 billion paid to companies that defied American sanctions law by making large investments that helped Iran develop its vast oil and gas reserves

in the article I posted in its entirety previously, how in the flying fuck do you know that none of these companies doing business in Iran to the tune of 100 billion dollars are not Rothschilds affiliated through the usual fronts and intermediaries? Have you done the research? Do you even have to? Isn't it obvious that they would have to be affiliated down the line or they go nowhere? They're U.S. companies aren't they? The Rotchschilds own most of the central banks of the world, do they not? That means they loan to anyone who loans to anyone else who loans to these very companies that do business in Iran. Comprende?  That means none of these companies get to do shit, they don't even have fuel in their cars, the wheels of finance that run all industry don't even turn, unless the Rothschilds give their ok. That's the leash for you again, and that's what we call 'controlled opposition.' Controlled opposition is when you can see the leash and who's holding it, even when it's through 3 parties down the line.

Its like those Cubans in Miami who'll tell you Castro is the devil incarnate but then attempt to justify the CIA's satanic mass murder of Cuban passengers aboard flight 455 and numerous other terrorist attacks in mainland Cuba. Same with those guys who fled Vietnam after the liberation of Saigon or any of those U.S backed foreign war criminals retired in Flo

[Negentropic]

I must have struck a nerve. This Talmud-head is going bat-shit.  

Hey, Negenfuckhead, why are you wasting your time here? Go get yourself a fucking rifle and head over to Iran if you think they're so bad. What are you waiting for? Or are you one of these chicken-hawks who will chant and cheer for war but never go and fight it himself? Yup, coward Talmudic skum is what you are

He came, he took a dump, but the turd got stuck in the infantile toilet bowl.  :lol:  :lol:  :lol: Take a deep drink monkey-boy you really earned it:




By the way, Mr. Baboon-Shit, was it you or your retarded monkey-sphinctered twin that posted this crap just a mere four months ago:  

http://theinfounderground.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=10895&start=75

Re: Curt Maynard Kills Wife and Himself, shoots daughter in law
 
by MonkeySeeMonkeyDo » Sun May 02, 2010 7:42 am


Khanverse wrote:My people have always kept it khazar free cuz they don't look like us, because our ideology is superior and we don't fall for that okeydoke shit like whites do.


Superior ideology? lol. That's funny. The muzzies aren't the sharpest tools in the shed. Probably one of the dullest actually. Tribal fundamentalist muslims are the most easily exploitable people on the planet imho. Total mental deficients. So easy to set up for terrorism. Instinctively violent. Show him a dollar and a bare pussy, say jump and he'll say how high. Get ur shit together. Tell ur people to stop being so clumsy and stupid and stop blaming all ur misfortunes on white people. White people are not at the top. It's the white skinned Jews. Surely you know this by now but have some vendetta against whites. Way to stick that knife in our backs when we're on here trying to help out a brother in the mid-east...  

Please Khan do teach us about superior Shizzlam. I want to learn more about it besides this
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Shizzlam looks pretty gross to me. Burka babes? camel jockeys and towel heads ready to gut anything that moves for saying the wrong thing? Child brides? Sharia law? Fundamentalist islamic culture is about the exact opposite as the jew-created vulture culture that has devoured the entire western world. Both gross. Both extremely ugly. Two sides of the same shitty coin. Islam is not the answer to anything.

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Now shaddup and go steal some more Chris Bollyn research and call it your own before I smack you some more you two-faced phony hypocrite.  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:    

[MonkeySeeMonkeyDo]

@Negenkike

Wow, like a lame sniveling Jew, you bring up a two month old post in an thread which turned into an all out ragefest where everyone was taking the piss out of everyone. That whole thread was piss n' vinegar and mudslinging, everyone was doing it. Khanverse was dissing whites so us whites were dissing Islamics,etc, it was a big fuckin joke. none of it was sincere. But I must really be important when obvious kikes like you and Whaler have to go dig and search through all my posts (like little sniveling/scheming 'blackmailing' Jews) and bring em out to "prove" a contradiction in my words.  :lol:  :lol:  I applaud your Talmudic slander efforts, you really put some time into that one didn't you. :clap: Fail. :yawn:

unlike that joke post from the rage thread which wasn't sincere at all -- you are FULLY SINCERE in your attempts to promote war with Iran. You've copy/pasted the same anti-iranian talmudic shyt some 30 times! YOu spend every waking hour of your time attacking Iran. Every single post you make is to defame Iran and promote war and genocide against the enemies of Israel. You might as well be posting on JTF.org (if you aren't already )

go steal some more Chris Bollyn research and call it your own before I smack you some more you two-faced phony hypocrite.

I never stole any research and called it my own. I never claimed to be the journalist who uncovered any of the info in that thread-- I just gathered the info, summarized it and put it all together in one article (and linked to the sources of the info within the article), you obese Armenian kike. But this is interesting, a worthless nobody whose done/contributed NOTHING to this movement--AT ALL-- is trying to defame me and trivialize my efforts. I guess we can't expect any different from one of "God's Chosen". Now run off to your kibbutz you little Baruch Goldstein worshiping wacko.

[CrackSmokeRepublican]

You care about the Iranian people just about as much as Daniel Pipes or William Kristol "cared" about the victims of Saddam's regime which they couldn't stop writing about in their neo-con rags in the lead up to war, or as much as Fox News "cared" about the 'oppressed Afghan women'. In other words you don't care at all but these issues are useful for you to manufacture consent for your war with Iran so more Iranians will be killed. Keep up the Jewish war-cry, but do us all a favor -- stop pretending that you're a Gentile.

 :up:

[sirbadman]

Wow negen, you really earnt a lot of   points by slagging off MSMD like that. Like bummer dude.

[Negentropic]

MonkeySeeMonkeyDo wrote:
You care about the Iranian people just about as much as Daniel Pipes or William Kristol "cared" about the victims of Saddam's regime which they couldn't stop writing about in their neo-con rags in the lead up to war, or as much as Fox News "cared" about the 'oppressed Afghan women'. In other words you don't care at all but these issues are useful for you to manufacture consent for your war with Iran so more Iranians will be killed. Keep up the Jewish war-cry, but do us all a favor -- stop pretending that you're a Gentile.

The Byzantine Solution:
Every pogrom in history has played into Talmudic hands, and has been cleverly instigated by them

It's called a smear tactic CSR. Monkey boy and smart-asses of his type specialize in the juvenile variety:

A smear campaign, smear tactic or simply smear is a metaphor for activity that can harm an individual or group's reputation by conflation with a stigmatized group  (in this case the stigmatized group by leftists and anti-Zionists being Pipes, Kristol Neocons)

Conflation occurs when the identities of two or more individuals, concepts, or places, sharing some characteristics of one another, become confused until there seems to be only a single identity — the differences appear to become lost

Smear tactics differ from normal discourse or debate in that they do not bear upon the issues or arguments in question. A smear is a simple attempt to malign a group or an individual and to attempt to undermine their credibility

Smear tactics are commonly used to undermine effective arguments or critiques.


Let's take an example and see if we can fill in the spots for the exact same tactics used by so-called anti-zionists:

Anti-Semitism and Anti-Zionism
Normal human: What's anti-semitism?
Zionist: Well, since Israel is a Jewish state, any criticism of Israel is anti-semitism.
NH: Israel is a Jewish state and has acted despicably toward the Palestinians. It deserves criticism!
Zio: Ooh! You anti-semite! How could you say such a thing! Are you a Nazi? Oh!oh!oh! Anti-semite!
NH: Actually, Israel's despicable actions have made anti-semitism almost respectable.
Zio: Oooohh!!   [Faints rather than acknowledge facts evident to everyone else.]


Anti-Zionim and Zionist Shilling

Normal human: What's zionist shilling?
Anti-Zionist: Well, since Israel is a criminal, zionist state, any sustained criticism of Israel's enemies, no matter how well-deserved and justified, and even if the enemies are big criminals themselves, aids and abets the real enemy, World Zionism, and is therfore Zionist shilling.
NH: Iran is also a criminal state and has acted despicably towards its own population. It's laws and record prove it. It deserves criticism!
Anti-Zionist: Ooh! You Jew Neo-Con bastard ! How could you say such a thing! Are you a Yid? Hey, do us all a favor and stop pretending you're a Gentile! Oh!oh!oh! You Pro-war son-of-a-Pipes! I have spotted a Kike!
NH: Actually, Iran's despicable actions towards its own citizens as shown in their laws and criminal code have made being anti-fundamentalist-Islam-tyranny almost respectable.
anti-Zio:  Shut Up Kike, Beat it Yid!    [Faints rather than acknowledge facts evident to everyone else.]


I used the example given in this article to fill in the rest on the bottom:
http://www.serendipity.li/zionism.htm#judaism



Playing the 'Jew Card' does not prove one goddamn thing more than playing the anti-seemite card

[CrackSmokeRepublican]

Negentropic,

What's your favorite chapter in the Protocols of the Elders of Zion?

[Negentropic]

Negentropic,

What's your favorite chapter in the Protocols of the Elders of Zion?

All of it, homes!   I've read the whole thing many times, as I hope most people here have as well.  Would ya like to give me a pop quiz?   :up:

Or is that your way of calling me a    without looking as ridiculous and juvenile as Monkey-boy?  Playing the Jew card    again are we?   :clap:  How's that any different from you and Ognir or anyone else from this forum being called a Nazi and anti-semite and racist on other forums?  Can you clarify that for me please?

Didn't you guys ban Khanverse for playing the race-card?  Is this a 'think-tank' or is this a junior high school?  Is that your sly way of telling me to get-the-fuck-out-of-here without sounding like a complete free-speech-killing dictator douchebag like Monkey-boy ?   If I'm in the wrong and some two-faced phony who came in here and hurled 23 straight insults my way is so right, how come you haven't banned me yet, CSR?  You haven't banned me but you join the smearing started by a known-juvenile two-faced phony without putting forth any reasons why you feel my arguments are wrong. Can I ask why?  Does feeling  and what you feel you know about something take precedence over reason and logical argument between friends then?  Because if dissenting opinions are not allowed when they're argued well enough to throw even a small monkey-wrench in the ways you all have become accustomed to thinking in here, then just say so!  Put this sign on the front page of the forum:

NO DISSENTING OPINIONS WITH ARGUMENTS THAT FORCE US TO RE-THINK OUR PROPAGANDA LINE ALLOWED!  DISSENTING OPINIONS WITH ANY LEVEL OF SUSTAINED ARGUMENT BEYOND TWO PAGES WILL BE SMEARED DIRECTLY & VULGARLY BY OUR STREET PUNKS AND SLYLY BACKED-UP AND DISMISSED WITH ONE LINE INDIRECT SMEARS BY OUR ELDERS AND ADMINISTRATORS WITHOUT ANY FURTHER COMMENT  !!  


That way people can be forewarned not to come in here expecting any thinking or reasoned argument that can make them gain new insights and understanding about a complex world but only a PROPAGANDA LINE,  not to be dissented from, enforced by all.  And that way you guys can have a non-stop 24 hour  Jew-bashing / Islamic-fundamentalist loving party.



As a response to Ahmed, who claimed that Ahmedinejad has not played into anyone's hands and Iran is not in any way controlled opposition, I made my arguments and put forth my evidence (ALL THE EVIDENCE because he just kept ignoring it and moving on) the best I could. I have made a case for why I have come to think of Iran as contolled opposition and why I am anti-fundamentalist-Islam and anti-war at the same time.

You've got a problem with that position CSR?

Then let's hear your arguments one by one, without any name-calling and insults, direct or indirect, o.k.?   You think you can handle that?


Or would that expose too much uncomfortable dissenting opinion for you ?

Why don't you do what Monkey-boy and Ahmed couldn't do, offer a coherent argument for why the Islamic government of Iran is not as bad as it looks and / or why its brutal internal tyranny is only temporary and is really looking to spread a kind of Islamic 'freedom' (a million times better than the Patriot act as Ahmed claimed) not too different from what we had here in United States until this last decade?  

Let's say Iran takes over Israel and the entire middle east tomorrow. Do you really believe that Islamic fundamentalism, as soon as it gets rid of Israel is going to be any milder than it is now or will the freeing of the Palestinians from complete and brutal subjugation by Israel only subjugate everyone in the region to the milder but still brutal Islamic dictatorship of Iran. Will winning the war against the Zionist Jews make Iran's tyrants somehow moderate even to the Dubai level?  

 

If yes, then would a Dubai level Islamic fundamentalist state with those kind of laws be acceptable to you as an American and would you be willing to move there even-semi-permanently under those conditions?



Will he answer or will he play the   card?  The only one left in his hand it seems. Oh I can't stand the mystery!!!   :lol:  

[Negentropic]

@Negenkike

Wow, like a lame sniveling Jew, you bring up a two month old post in an thread which turned into an all out ragefest where everyone was taking the piss out of everyone. That whole thread was piss n' vinegar and mudslinging, everyone was doing it. Khanverse was dissing whites so us whites were dissing Islamics,etc, it was a big fuckin joke. none of it was sincere. But I must really be important when obvious kikes like you and Whaler have to go dig and search through all my posts (like little sniveling/scheming 'blackmailing' Jews) and bring em out to "prove" a contradiction in my words.   I applaud your Talmudic slander efforts, you really put some time into that one didn't you.  Fail.  

Wait a second? What does Whaler have to do with this? He never posted anti-fundamentalist-Islam stuff so why are calling him a kike? Are you out of your mind?   :lol:  Why are bringing Whaler into this?

Negenkike and LAME SNIVELING JEW ---  wow monkey-boy-monkey-shit you're really giving your enemy an enema there aren't you?  Can't you come up with anything better? Next time I suggest TALMUD-HEAD KIKE again,  between TALMUD HEAD KIKE and LAME SNIVELING JEW Negenkike you might come up with a masterpiece of idiocy yet. Make sure you use KIKE as much as possible so that the ADL has an easy job of branding this whole site anti-seemite and racist and just to the left of VNN and Stormfront, basically completely easy to smear and discredit.  That should score better points for your sorry  hairy juvenile ass !   :lol:




Fail?   :lol:    Don't make me laugh you pathetic phony !  you got OWNED . :lol:  Too embarrassing huh, the way you got bitch-slapped by your own post?  And who took the original pictures off? CSR was that you helping this monkey-boy criminal who attacked me with 25 straight completely unjustified juvenile insults of the most slanderous kind, save face?  I understand if you want to take the toilet humor out but why take out the pictures that Monkey-boy originally posted himself replaced by soccer champion Ahmedinejad? I am disappointed CSR but do what you gotta do.  

I must really be important when obvious kikes like you and Whaler have to go dig and search through all my posts (like little sniveling/scheming 'blackmailing' Jews) and bring em out to "prove" a contradiction in my words.   I applaud your Talmudic slander efforts, you really put some time into that one didn't you.  Fail.

Don't flatter yourself, no one needs to put up much effort to put a lightweight clown like you in the crapper.    

Hey everybody !! Google Curt Maynard kills wife  TIU and check out Monkey-boy's original  muslim-bashing post in 10 seconds!!! .  See it's that easy. Like I would waste even 2 minutes going back through his posts!

unlike that joke post from the rage thread which wasn't sincere at all -- you are FULLY SINCERE in your attempts to promote war with Iran.

ha ha ha hee hee he ho ho. It is the season to be jolly  :lol:  'FULLY SINCERE,' in promoting war. Nope, wrong again, FULLY SINCERE in being 100% anti-war and 100% anti-all-tyranny at all times, not just when it fits Mr. Baboon-Turd's propaganda line on Israel. Watch how he tries to twist language to fit his ends, which is basically to shut-me-the-fuck-up any way he can,  and gets stuck in the crapper. I will support you or anyone else here 100% in anti-war efforts but I will also support the Iranian people that are suffering under their tyrannical regime to overthrow that regime and take over, hopefully installing a non-usury creative-free-market system. Islamic ran, which I have come to believe, was and is controlled opposition (don't believe me go read some of the stuff I posted) in the same way that I would the Russian people during Soviet times in the Gulags, whether or not the Russians were supposedly enemies of the U.S. or not.

As far as the Maynard thread goes, it wasn't a  'joke post' you insensitive dufus, it was a deadly serious post about a hardcore anti-Zionist who killed his wife and himself, a guy much more important to the 'moviement' than yourself, but to the mentality of a 14 year old that's all fun and games. 'Rage thread,' what a pile of shit, another lie to cover his ass. It was not a rage-thread, it was your usual back-and-forth argument if a little heated, it became a 'rage thread' because of Mr-baboon-turd fanning the flames on purpose, just like he tried to do here, to his own embarrassment. Watch him squirm and cry like a baby making up excuses trying to cover his hypocritical phony self. Don't cry monkey boy it's not like people didn't already know you were a two-faced phony and used whatever face served your purposes of the moment. I just refreshed their memory a little bit. Be proud!  I'm not out to censor you, you little monkey-dictator, you're out to censor me!  

It was anything but a joke, it was a deliberately nasty provocation by you passed off as 'humor,' about as humorous as 'nigger jokes' at a black funeral  or lynching meant to provoke and  piss off Khanverse, which it did, and when he flew off the handle with the other guys, it got him banned.  That was you talking like the racist phony that you are but spinning a little humor in so you can deny it later; I know how it works, I wasn't born yesterday; it's a smart-assed tactic but it won't work on non-retards  :lol:  You sure let us see your true colors there, didn't you Monkey-boy?  When he has no defense and he's busted flat, he just babbles another lie or obfuscation.  

Just like you came in here trying to piss me off, which didn't work, did it?  Instead you got laughed at and smacked in the head like you deserve.  You're still getting laughed at.  

Promoting war my ass!!  If I was going to promote war why in the fuck would I do it on a tiny forum like this to people who are all anti-war including myself?  Let's say I converted you all, what have I gained 50 people?  One night of TV watching gets millions brainwashed. All I'm doing is presenting facts which some people here, like Mr. Baboon-boy don't like,  because it doesn't support their propaganda line and makes people think too much, and thinking too  much is not good in propaganda wars, so he comes in here and right away, straight off the bat, starts name-calling and talking shit.    You're just a Stalinist gulag monkey who demands free speech for his own self and tries his best to deny it to others.  Way to go turning this forum into a ridiculous fucking, laughable, and I mean truly pathetic JOO-JOO-JOO Guess-who's-the-Jew Witch-Hunt for juvenile retards!!  The central committee must be proud of you comrade monkey-boy!  You have identified the HERETIC!   You have pegged the enemy an 'enema'  :lol:

You've copy/pasted the same anti-iranian talmudic shyt some 30 times! YOu spend every waking hour of your time attacking Iran. Every single post you make is to defame Iran and promote war and genocide against the enemies of Israel. You might as well be posting on JTF.org (if you aren't already  )

That's another lie, I posted a lot of Iran stuff but on only 4 or 5 threads.  So what if it makes a brutal dictatorship look bad ?  Is tyranny only fucked-up and nasty when Jews are forcing it down people's throats?     Any other comments besides those 4 or 5 Threads which I didn't even start were one-off and I never even started a single thread on Iran here, and wasn't planning to start more than one either.  I just posted heavily on other people's threads, mainly because I sensed people were trying to censor the topic. If you want a criminal analogy, they were supporting Charles Manson in order to be able the bust Al Capone.   Well, in my book, you don't support any murderers anti-Al-Capone or not. And when you try to censor me I'll come out fighting twice as hard every time, you can bet your bananas on that monkey-boy.  On the other hand infant-monkey-boy the JOO-screamer started at least 15 to 20 to 30 threads (it could be even more, I don't have time to count all his nonsense)  on EVIL AMERICANS.  In fact, the very first time I posted Iran stuff was as a response to monkey-turd-boy's endless U.S. bashing. I didn't try to censor him, I didn't call him racial epithets for Jews in as many ways as I could muster, I just posted some different views. It's called free speech and discussion. And all writings are propaganda the instant more than 3 of 4 people read it, there's no way to avoid propaganda. And all propaganda has potentially harmful aspects if not reasoned through and tempered by a logical mind. Propaganda becomes harmful when reasoning is no longer applied but a certain line is taken and then defended against heresy.  That's when you have bullshit propaganda wars with heretics on both sides, gigantic blind spots on both sides and no real understanding, only imposed tunnel-vision.  To a Zionist Jew and American Military, the heretic is anyone that supports certain Muslims because they say that they're all potential terrorists and we must be forever on guard,  to the anti-Zionist the heretic is anyone who criticizes those same Muslims, even when well-deserved because it doesn't serve their propaganda line that Jews are the biggest evil and they will use this for their ends and we must be forever on guard. Both sides are full of shit but more full of shit than that are those like Mr. Monkey-boy gate-keeper that claim to be open-minded but, in fact, are no more tolerant of free-speech than Ahmedinejad's Mullahs in Iran and other two-bit dictators. They are practicing gate-keeping in a deliberately irrational manner which advances their agenda at the expense of truth. Both sides are scared of giving up ground by being truthful or consistent in pursuing truth to the bitter end, they want the sweet dog shit of faith and self-imposed blindness and selective vision irrationality instead. :up:    


[youtube:39dc8lgh]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0z6ATxLk8Q[/youtube]39dc8lgh]

I never stole any research and called it my own. I never claimed to be the journalist who uncovered any of the info in that thread-- I just gathered the info, summarized it and put it all together in one article (and linked to the sources of the info within the article), you
obese Armenian kike.

Exactly, you're no journalist, you UNCOVERED NOTHING, you just copied Chris Bollyn and a few others and  linked sources and organized things very nicely. So you're a nice organizer like the rest of us, right?  And you organized a good pamphlet that got a ton of views due to constant linkage by the anti-zionist crowd right?  But, as a result, you seem to think you're God around here. So you're not a thief,  and I was out-of-line for calling you a thief. But I would have never called you a damn thing at all if you hadn't come in here and started bashing on me.  When you start shit, don't expect me not to finish it for you everytime and make you look like a well-deserved jackass in the process.

Will Monkey-boy-Monkey-shit ever be man enough to admit he was out-of-line for coming in here and calling me a :



TURD IN THE PUNCHBOWL

 Comparing me to Daniel Pipes (now that's worse than all the other insults combined and I'll never forgive monkey-turd for that insult) :lol:

WAR PROMOTER

WAR PROPAGANDIST,

doesn't give a shit about Palestinians, he

doesn't give a shit about Iraqis

doesn't give a shit about Afghans

 he certainly doesn't give a shit about Iranians ,

 JEW,

JEW,

YID,

JEW CLOWN

Kike

Talmud Head

NegenFuckhead,

COWARD TALMUDIC SCUM

A Skumbag Jew

Lame Sinveling Jew,  

obvious Kikes like You,

little sniveling/scheming 'blackmailing' Jew  

Talmudic Slanderer

Talmudic Shyt

You might as well be posting on JTF.org (if you aren't already)    

Obese Armenian Kike!  (I don't know why he projected his own fat-ass on me on this one but hey, schizoid boy thinks he's clairvoyant, let him dream that he's not alone) :lol:

23 straight insults and nothing but insults and slander as soon as he came in  and  I'm supposed to just sit here and take it. But when I show what a phony he is with his own post, now I'm trivializing and defaming poor monkey boy and his 'contradictions' uhum,  I mean his 'contributions.'   Ahh stuff it !  You're about to make me cry, I'm so touched by your predicament, you heroic douchy boy  man of honour !!!    :lol:  

But this is interesting, a worthless nobody whose done/contributed NOTHING to this movement--AT ALL-- is trying to defame me and trivialize my efforts. I guess we can't expect any different from one of "God's Chosen". Now run off to your kibbutz you little Baruch Goldstein worshiping wacko.

' this is interesting'  'this movement' 'contributed' 'trivilaize my efforts' ; two minutes ago he was ranting and raving, now he's all serious and contemplating like Galileo, the paranoid freak.   Ah man! they should make a case study of this guy's psychosis and paranoia, it would fill a whole book and be a laugh-a-minute!  

The gut-wrenchingly absurd and farcical ego of a lunatic is all that you have.  :lol: What the hell have you 'contributed'  that's so goddman special besides 'Jews did 9-11' as if people didn't know that already from reading Bollyn and no it better and in far better depth than reading your post. Sorry to have to break it to you Monkey Boy, but your main contribution is as a pamphleteer, designer and organizer for some of Bollyn's research and a few others thrown in, so get over yourself!  And by the way, DBS has to link to your pamphlet because he no longer speaks to Bollyn or links to him, so he has to use your pamphlet's intermediary to get the benefit of Bollyn research without directly having to praise Bollyn and admit he was wrong for bashing Bollyn.  You know it's true and everyone else here does too, but your little ego's in the way of that one isn't it ?  

YOU CAME IN HERE AND CALLED ME EVERY INSULT IN THE BOOK!  YOU WENT ON THE ATTACK THE MOMENT YOU CAME IN HERE! Why? And for what? Because I hate some fucking medieval bastards and gave every last reason why and in your opinion hating fucking medieval bastards is wrong because as long as they kill their own people and we pretend it doesn't happen and look the other way,  we won't support any support any MSM propaganda and can avoid war ?

Bullshit! Who says you can't be anti-war and anti-medieval-tyrant at the same time?  I am both. Monkeyshit is apparently pro-medieval tyrant and anti-war, go figure.   When I make an anti-tyranny post, I make the case for it, I don't just blurt it out of my ass and don't back it up like Monkey-boy. Would you rather I just blurt out some insult and give no reasons like you do?  Oh, but I'm defaming and tivializing him, the vicitm !  Man,  you don't want to be defamed and trivialized don't go fucking around and write a check your ass can't cash, DEFAMING & TRIVIALIZING OTHERS FIRST, DON'T GO TRYING TO CENSOR WHAT YOU DON'T LIKE,  you sorry-assed hypocrite !!  :lol: No attempt to understand, just name calling and name-calling by association and then trying to  make guilt-by-association stick like some scumbag at Communist Party show trials!  Throwing lots of shit to see which one wil stick, that's what you specialize in Baboon-boy!  

Nothing you've done on this thread is anything else but infantile name-calling and a pathetic attempt to censor free-speech you don't like.  You deserve every ounce of shit, every last dingleberry of turd that's been flung towards you on this thread 100 percent and I hope it sticks to your phony baboon face like lice on a dog.  :lol:   YOU CAME IN HERE AND ATTACKED ME, as everyone can see on this very thread just a few posts ago. So just shut your trap and go post 50 more 'Filthy American Butchers' threads. You can bet your pathetic hypocritical, tryannical little, Monkey-Gulag ass I won't be in there either reading your scribblings or trying to censor you.  You see I ain't lke you Monkey-boy, I respect the free speech of people I have no respect left for whatsoever. :up:

[Negentropic]

MonkeySeeMonkeyDo wrote:

@Negenkike

Wow, like a lame sniveling Jew, you bring up a two month old post in an thread which turned into an all out ragefest where everyone was taking the piss out of everyone. That whole thread was piss n' vinegar and mudslinging, everyone was doing it. Khanverse was dissing whites so us whites were dissing Islamics,etc, it was a big fuckin joke. none of it was sincere. But I must really be important when obvious kikes like you and Whaler have to go dig and search through all my posts (like little sniveling/scheming 'blackmailing' Jews) and bring em out to "prove" a contradiction in my words.   I applaud your Talmudic slander efforts, you really put some time into that one didn't you.  Fail.  

Wait a second? What does Whaler have to do with this? He never posted anti-fundamentalist-Islam stuff so why are calling him a kike? Are you out of your mind?   :lol:  Why are bringing Whaler into this?

Negenkike and LAME SNIVELING JEW ---  wow monkey-boy-monkey-shit you're really giving your enemy an enema there aren't you?  Can't you come up with anything better? Next time I suggest TALMUD-HEAD KIKE again,  between TALMUD HEAD KIKE and LAME SNIVELING JEW Negenkike you might come up with a masterpiece of idiocy yet. Make sure you use KIKE as much as possible so that the ADL has an easy job of branding this whole site anti-seemite and racist and just to the left of VNN and Stormfront, basically completely easy to smear and discredit.  That should score better points for your sorry  hairy juvenile ass !   :lol:




Fail?   :lol:    Don't make me laugh you pathetic phony !  you got OWNED . :lol:  Too embarrassing huh, the way you got bitch-slapped by your own post?  And who took the original pictures off? CSR was that you helping this monkey-boy criminal who attacked me with 25 straight completely unjustified juvenile insults of the most slanderous kind, save face?  I understand if you want to take the toilet humor out but why take out the pictures that Monkey-boy originally posted himself replaced by soccer champion Ahmedinejad? I am disappointed CSR but do what you gotta do.  

MonkeySeeMonkeyDo Wrote:

I must really be important when obvious kikes like you and Whaler have to go dig and search through all my posts (like little sniveling/scheming 'blackmailing' Jews) and bring em out to "prove" a contradiction in my words.   I applaud your Talmudic slander efforts, you really put some time into that one didn't you.  Fail.

Don't flatter yourself, no one needs to put up much effort to put a lightweight clown like you in the crapper.    

Hey everybody !! Google Curt Maynard kills wife  TIU and check out Monkey-boy's original  muslim-bashing post in 10 seconds!!! .  See it's that easy. Like I would waste even 2 minutes going back through his posts!

unlike that joke post from the rage thread which wasn't sincere at all -- you are FULLY SINCERE in your attempts to promote war with Iran.

ha ha ha hee hee he ho ho. It is the season to be jolly  :lol:  'FULLY SINCERE,' in promoting war. Nope, wrong again, FULLY SINCERE in being 100% anti-war and 100% anti-all-tyranny at all times, not just when it fits Mr. Baboon-Turd's propaganda line on Israel. Watch how he tries to twist language to fit his ends, which is basically to shut-me-the-fuck-up any way he can,  and gets stuck in the crapper. I will support you or anyone else here 100% in anti-war efforts but I will also support the Iranian people that are suffering under their tyrannical regime to overthrow that regime and take over, hopefully installing a non-usury creative-free-market system. Islamic ran, which I have come to believe, was and is controlled opposition (don't believe me go read some of the stuff I posted) in the same way that I would the Russian people during Soviet times in the Gulags, whether or not the Russians were supposedly enemies of the U.S. or not.

As far as the Maynard thread goes, it wasn't a  'joke post' you insensitive dufus, it was a deadly serious post about a hardcore anti-Zionist who killed his wife and himself, a guy much more important to the 'moviement' than yourself, but to the mentality of a 14 year old that's all fun and games. 'Rage thread,' what a pile of shit, another lie to cover his ass. It was not a rage-thread, it was your usual back-and-forth argument if a little heated, it became a 'rage thread' because of Mr-baboon-turd fanning the flames on purpose, just like he tried to do here, to his own embarrassment. Watch him squirm and cry like a baby making up excuses trying to cover his hypocritical phony self. Don't cry monkey boy it's not like people didn't already know you were a two-faced phony and used whatever face served your purposes of the moment. I just refreshed their memory a little bit. Be proud!  I'm not out to censor you, you little monkey-dictator, you're out to censor me!  

It was anything but a joke, it was a deliberately nasty provocation by you passed off as 'humor,' about as humorous as 'nigger jokes' at a black funeral  or lynching meant to provoke and  piss off Khanverse, which it did, and when he flew off the handle with the other guys, it got him banned.  That was you talking like the racist phony that you are but spinning a little humor in so you can deny it later; I know how it works, I wasn't born yesterday; it's a smart-assed tactic but it won't work on non-retards  :lol:  You sure let us see your true colors there, didn't you Monkey-boy?  When he has no defense and he's busted flat, he just babbles another lie or obfuscation.  

Just like you came in here trying to piss me off, which didn't work, did it?  Instead you got laughed at and smacked in the head like you deserve.  You're still getting laughed at.  

Promoting war my ass!!  If I was going to promote war why in the fuck would I do it on a tiny forum like this to people who are all anti-war including myself?  Let's say I converted you all, what have I gained 50 people?  One night of TV watching gets millions brainwashed. All I'm doing is presenting facts which some people here, like Mr. Baboon-boy don't like,  because it doesn't support their propaganda line and makes people think too much, and thinking too  much is not good in propaganda wars, so he comes in here and right away, straight off the bat, starts name-calling and talking shit.    You're just a Stalinist gulag monkey who demands free speech for his own self and tries his best to deny it to others.  Way to go turning this forum into a ridiculous fucking, laughable, and I mean truly pathetic JOO-JOO-JOO Guess-who's-the-Jew Witch-Hunt for juvenile retards!!  The central committee must be proud of you comrade monkey-boy!  You have identified the HERETIC!   You have pegged the enemy an 'enema'  :lol:

You've copy/pasted the same anti-iranian talmudic shyt some 30 times! YOu spend every waking hour of your time attacking Iran. Every single post you make is to defame Iran and promote war and genocide against the enemies of Israel. You might as well be posting on JTF.org (if you aren't already  )

That's another lie, I posted a lot of Iran stuff but on only 4 or 5 threads.  So what if it makes a brutal dictatorship look bad ?  Is tyranny only fucked-up and nasty when Jews are forcing it down people's throats?     Any other comments besides those 4 or 5 Threads which I didn't even start were one-off and I never even started a single thread on Iran here, and wasn't planning to start more than one either.  I just posted heavily on other people's threads, mainly because I sensed people were trying to censor the topic. If you want a criminal analogy, they were supporting Charles Manson in order to be able the bust Al Capone.   Well, in my book, you don't support any murderers anti-Al-Capone or not. And when you try to censor me I'll come out fighting twice as hard every time, you can bet your bananas on that monkey-boy.  On the other hand infant-monkey-boy the JOO-screamer started at least 15 to 20 (it could be even more, I don't have time to count all his nonsense)  on EVIL AMERICANS.  In fact, the very first time I posted Iran stuff was as a response to monkey-turd-boy's endless U.S. bashing. I didn't try to censor him, I didn't call him racial epithets for Jews in as many ways as I could muster, I just posted some different views. It's called free speech and discussion. And all writings are propaganda the instant more than 3 of 4 people read it, there's no way to avoid propaganda. And all propaganda has potentially harmful aspects if not reasoned through and tempered by a logical mind. Propaganda becomes harmful when reasoning is no longer applied but a certain line is taken and then defended against heresy.  That's when you have bullshit propaganda wars with heretics on both sides, gigantic blind spots on both sides and no real understanding, only imposed tunnel-vision.  To a Zionist Jew and American Military, the heretic is anyone that supports certain Muslims because they say that they're all potential terrorists and we must be forever on guard,  to the anti-Zionist the heretic is anyone who criticizes those same Muslims, even when well-deserved because it doesn't serve their propaganda line that Jews are the biggest evil and they will use this for their ends and we must be forever on guard. Both sides are full of shit but more full of shit than that are those like Mr. Monkey-boy gate-keeper that claim to be open-minded but, in fact, are no more tolerant of free-speech than Ahmedinejad's Mullahs in Iran and other two-bit dictators. They are practicing gate-keeping in a deliberately irrational manner which advances their agenda at the expense of truth. Both sides are scared of giving up ground by being truthful or consistent in pursuing truth to the bitter end, they want the sweet dog shit of faith and self-imposed blindness and selective vision irrationality instead. :up:    


[youtube:1guuwlje]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0z6ATxLk8Q[/youtube]1guuwlje]

I never stole any research and called it my own. I never claimed to be the journalist who uncovered any of the info in that thread-- I just gathered the info, summarized it and put it all together in one article (and linked to the sources of the info within the article), you
obese Armenian kike.

Exactly, you're no journalist, you UNCOVERED NOTHING, you just copied Chris Bollyn and a few others and  linked sources and organized things very nicely. So you're a nice organizer like the rest of us, right?  And you organized a good pamphlet that got a ton of views due to constant linkage by the anti-zionist crowd right?  But, as a result, you seem to think you're God around here. So you're not a thief,  and I was out-of-line for calling you a thief. But I would have never called you a damn thing at all if you hadn't come in here and started bashing on me.  When you start shit, don't expect me not to finish it for you everytime and make you look like a well-deserved jackass in the process.

Will Monkey-boy-Monkey-shit ever be man enough to admit he was out-of-line for coming in here and calling me a :



TURD IN THE PUNCHBOWL

 Comparing me to Daniel Pipes (now that's worse than all the other insults combined and I'll never forgive monkey-turd for that insult) :lol:

WAR PROMOTER

WAR PROPAGANDIST,

doesn't give a shit about Palestinians, he

doesn't give a shit about Iraqis

doesn't give a shit about Afghans

 he certainly doesn't give a shit about Iranians ,

 JEW,

JEW,

YID,

JEW CLOWN

Kike

Talmud Head

NegenFuckhead,

COWARD TALMUDIC SCUM

A Skumbag Jew

Lame Sinveling Jew,  

obvious Kikes like You,

little sniveling/scheming 'blackmailing' Jew  

Talmudic Slanderer

Talmudic Shyt

You might as well be posting on JTF.org (if you aren't already)    

Obese Armenian Kike!  (I don't know why he projected his own fat-ass on me on this one but hey, schizoid boy thinks he's clairvoyant, let him dream that he's not alone) :lol:

23 straight insults and nothing but insults and slander as soon as he came in  and  I'm supposed to just sit here and take it. But when I show what a phony he is with his own post, now I'm trivializing and defaming poor monkey boy and his 'contradictions' uhum,  I mean his 'contributions.'   Ahh stuff it !  You're about to make me cry, I'm so touched by your predicament, you heroic douchy boy  man of honour !!!    :lol:  

But this is interesting, a worthless nobody whose done/contributed NOTHING to this movement--AT ALL-- is trying to defame me and trivialize my efforts. I guess we can't expect any different from one of "God's Chosen". Now run off to your kibbutz you little Baruch Goldstein worshiping wacko.

' this is interesting'  'this movement' 'contributed' 'trivilaize my efforts' ; two minutes ago he was ranting and raving, now he's all serious and contemplating like Galileo, the paranoid freak.   Ah man! they should make a case study of this guy's psychosis and paranoia, it would fill a whole book and be a laugh-a-minute!  

The gut-wrenchingly absurd and farcical ego of a lunatic is all that you have.  :lol: What the hell have you 'contributed'  that's so goddman special besides 'Jews did 9-11' as if people didn't know that already from reading Bollyn and no it better and in far better depth than reading your post. Sorry to have to break it to you Monkey Boy, but your main contribution is as a pamphleteer, designer and organizer for some of Bollyn's research and a few others thrown in, so get over yourself!  And by the way, DBS has to link to your pamphlet because he no longer speaks to Bollyn or links to him, so he has to use your pamphlet's intermediary to get the benefit of Bollyn research without directly having to praise Bollyn and admit he was wrong for bashing Bollyn.  You know it's true and everyone else here does too, but your little ego's in the way of that one isn't it ?  

YOU CAME IN HERE AND CALLED ME EVERY INSULT IN THE BOOK!  YOU WENT ON THE ATTACK THE MOMENT YOU CAME IN HERE! Why? And for what? Because I hate some fucking medieval bastards and gave every last reason why and in your opinion hating fucking medieval bastards is wrong because as long as they kill their own people and we pretend it doesn't happen and look the other way,  we won't support any support any MSM propaganda and can avoid war ?

Bullshit! Who says you can't be anti-war and anti-medieval-tyrant at the same time?  I am both. Monkeyshit is apparently pro-medieval tyrant and anti-war, go figure.   When I make an anti-tyranny post, I make the case for it, I don't just blurt it out of my ass and don't back it up like Monkey-boy. Would you rather I just blurt out some insult and give no reasons like you do?  Oh, but I'm defaming and tivializing him, the vicitm !  Man,  you don't want to be defamed and trivialized don't go fucking around and write a check your ass can't cash, DEFAMING & TRIVIALIZING OTHERS FIRST, DON'T GO TRYING TO CENSOR WHAT YOU DON'T LIKE,  you sorry-assed hypocrite !!  :lol: No attempt to understand, just name calling and name-calling by association and then trying to  make guilt-by-association stick like some scumbag at Communist Party show trials!  Throwing lots of shit to see which one wil stick, that's what you specialize in Baboon-boy!  

Nothing you've done on this thread is anything else but infantile name-calling and a pathetic attempt to censor free-speech you don't like.  You deserve every ounce of crap that's been flung towards you on this thread 100 percent and I hope it sticks to your phony baboon face like lice on a dog.  :lol:   YOU CAME IN HERE AND ATTACKED ME, as everyone can see on this very thread just a few posts ago. So just shut your trap and go post 50 more 'Filthy American Butchers' threads. You can bet your pathetic hypocritical, tryannical little, Monkey-Gulag ass I won't be in there either reading your scribblings or trying to censor you.  You see I ain't lke you Monkey-boy, I respect the free speech of people I have no respect left for whatsoever. :up:

[Negentropic]

Negentropic,

What's your favorite chapter in the Protocols of the Elders of Zion?

All of it, homes! I've read the whole thing many times, as I hope most people here have as well. Would ya like to give me a pop quiz?    :lol:  

Or is that your way of calling me a    without looking as ridiculous and juvenile as Monkey-boy? Playing the Jew   card  again are we?  How's that any different from you and Ognir or anyone else from this forum being called a Nazi and anti-semite and racist on other forums? Can you clarify that for me please?

Didn't you guys ban Khanverse for playing the race-card? Is this a 'think-tank' or is this a junior high school? Is that your sly way of telling me to get-the-fuck-out-of-here without sounding like a complete free-speech-killing dictator douchebag like Monkey-boy ? If I'm in the wrong and some two-faced phony who came in here and hurled 23 straight insults my way is so right, how come you haven't banned me yet, CSR? You haven't banned me but you join the smearing started by a known-juvenile two-faced phony without putting forth any reasons why you feel my arguments are wrong. Can I ask why? Does feeling and what you feel you know about something take precedence over reason and logical argument between friends then? Because if dissenting opinions are not allowed when they're argued well enough to throw even a small monkey-wrench in the ways you all have become accustomed to thinking in here, then just say so! Put this sign on the front page of the forum:

NO DISSENTING OPINIONS WITH ARGUMENTS THAT FORCE US TO RE-THINK OUR PROPAGANDA LINE ALLOWED! DISSENTING OPINIONS WITH ANY LEVEL OF SUSTAINED ARGUMENT BEYOND TWO PAGES WILL BE SMEARED DIRECTLY & VULGARLY BY OUR STREET PUNKS AND SLYLY BACKED-UP AND DISMISSED WITH ONE LINE INDIRECT SMEARS BY OUR ELDERS AND ADMINISTRATORS WITHOUT ANY FURTHER COMMENT !!

That way people can be forewarned not to come in here expecting any thinking or reasoned argument that can make them gain new insights and understanding about a complex world but only a PROPAGANDA LINE, not to be dissented from, enforced by all. And that way you guys can have a non-stop 24 hour Jew-bashing / Islamic-fundamentalist loving party.


As a response to Ahmed, who claimed that Ahmedinejad has not played into anyone's hands and Iran is not in any way controlled opposition, I made my arguments and put forth my evidence (ALL THE EVIDENCE because he just kept ignoring it and moving on) the best I could. I have made a case for why I have come to think of Iran as contolled opposition and why I am anti-fundamentalist-Islam and anti-war at the same time.

You've got a problem with that position CSR?

Then let's hear your arguments one by one, without any name-calling and insults, direct or indirect, o.k.? You think you can handle that?


Or would that expose too much uncomfortable dissenting opinion for you ?

Why don't you do what Monkey-boy and Ahmed couldn't do, offer a coherent argument for why the Islamic government of Iran is not as bad as it looks and / or why its brutal internal tyranny is only temporary and is really looking to spread a kind of Islamic 'freedom' (a million times better than the Patriot act as Ahmed claimed) not too different from what we had here in United States until this last decade?

Let's say Iran takes over Israel and the entire middle east tomorrow. Do you really believe that Islamic fundamentalism, as soon as it gets rid of Israel is going to be any milder than it is now or will the freeing of the Palestinians from complete and brutal subjugation by Israel only subjugate everyone in the region to the milder but still brutal Islamic dictatorship of Iran. Will winning the war against the Zionist Jews make Iran's tyrants somehow moderate even to the Dubai level?

 

If yes, then would a Dubai level Islamic fundamentalist state with those kind of laws be acceptable to you as an American and would you be willing to move there even-semi-permanently under those conditions?

 

Will he answer or will he play the    card? The only one left in his deck it seems. Oh I can't stand the suspense!    

[Negentropic]

Negentropic,

What's your favorite chapter in the Protocols of the Elders of Zion?

All of it, homes! I've read the whole thing many times, as I hope most people here have as well. Would ya like to give me a pop quiz?    :lol:  

Or is that your way of calling me a    without looking as ridiculous and juvenile as Monkey-boy? Playing the Jew   card  again are we?  How's that any different from you and Ognir or anyone else from this forum being called a Nazi and anti-semite and racist on other forums? Can you clarify that for me please?

Didn't you guys ban Khanverse for playing the race-card? Is this a 'think-tank' or is this a junior high school? Is that your sly way of telling me to get-the-fuck-out-of-here without sounding like a complete free-speech-killing dictator douchebag like Monkey-boy ? If I'm in the wrong and some two-faced phony who came in here and hurled 23 straight insults my way is so right, how come you haven't banned me yet, CSR? You haven't banned me but you join the smearing started by a known-juvenile two-faced phony without putting forth any reasons why you feel my arguments are wrong. Can I ask why? Does feeling and what you feel you know about something take precedence over reason and logical argument between friends then? Because if dissenting opinions are not allowed when they're argued well enough to throw even a small monkey-wrench in the ways you all have become accustomed to thinking in here, then just say so! Put this sign on the front page of the forum:

NO DISSENTING OPINIONS WITH ARGUMENTS THAT FORCE US TO RE-THINK OUR PROPAGANDA LINE ALLOWED! DISSENTING OPINIONS WITH ANY LEVEL OF SUSTAINED ARGUMENT BEYOND TWO PAGES WILL BE SMEARED DIRECTLY & VULGARLY BY OUR STREET PUNKS AND SLYLY BACKED-UP AND DISMISSED WITH ONE LINE INDIRECT SMEARS BY OUR ELDERS AND ADMINISTRATORS WITHOUT ANY FURTHER COMMENT !!



That way people can be forewarned not to come in here expecting any thinking or reasoned argument that can make them gain new insights and understanding about a complex world but only a PROPAGANDA LINE, not to be dissented from, enforced by all. And that way you guys can have a non-stop 24 hour Jew-bashing / Islamic-fundamentalist loving party.




As a response to Ahmed, who claimed that Ahmedinejad has not played into anyone's hands and Iran is not in any way controlled opposition, I made my arguments and put forth my evidence (ALL THE EVIDENCE because he just kept ignoring it and moving on) the best I could. I have made a case for why I have come to think of Iran as contolled opposition and why I am anti-fundamentalist-Islam and anti-war at the same time.

You've got a problem with that position CSR?

Then let's hear your arguments one by one, without any name-calling and insults, direct or indirect, o.k.? You think you can handle that?


Or would that expose too much uncomfortable dissenting opinion for you ?

Why don't you do what Monkey-boy and Ahmed couldn't do, offer a coherent argument for why the Islamic government of Iran is not as bad as it looks and / or why its brutal internal tyranny is only temporary and is really looking to spread a kind of Islamic 'freedom' (a million times better than the Patriot act as Ahmed claimed) not too different from what we had here in United States until this last decade?

Let's say Iran takes over Israel and the entire middle east tomorrow. Do you really believe that Islamic fundamentalism, as soon as it gets rid of Israel is going to be any milder than it is now or will the freeing of the Palestinians from complete and brutal subjugation by Israel only subjugate everyone in the region to the milder but still brutal Islamic dictatorship of Iran. Will winning the war against the Zionist Jews make Iran's tyrants somehow moderate even to the Dubai level?

 

If yes, then would a Dubai level Islamic fundamentalist state with those kind of laws be acceptable to you as an American and would you be willing to move there even-semi-permanently under those conditions?

 

Will he answer or will he play the    card? The only one left in his deck it seems. Oh I can't stand the suspense!    

[MonkeySeeMonkeyDo]

negentropic,

you yap and yap and yap but you don't say much. 98% of your spiel is worthless, paranoid, schizophrenic conjecture that nobody has time for.

If yes, then would a Dubai level Islamic fundamentalist state with those kind of laws be acceptable to you as an American and would you be willing to move there even-semi-permanently under those conditions?

Americans have a habit of sticking their noses in other peoples business -- business they ought not be concerned with. A habit ya'll likely acquired from the Jews that run your country. These Islamic countries can solve their own problems and work out their own disputes. The west has meddled enough in the Middle-East, it's time for complete and total withdrawal on all fronts, no exceptions. Like many Americans you have a habit of pointing the finger at someone else without addressing the monstrous pile of shit in your own backyard.

LIke I said to you before, you are wasting your time here with this shit. You'd get a better reception over at Hannity's forum or some other Zio-Nut neo-con hangout. If you insist that this is such a problem then here's what I suggest you do instead of polluting this forum with this toxic Jew-approved drivel -- Why don't you go get yourself a fucking rifle and head over there and start a revolution!?

[ldrancer]

all the middle east is doing is agreeing with the bible.  cut gay boys penises off.  cut noses off whores.  i think they should do that here.  if a bitch can't stay with one guy, cut her nose off so everone will know.  i think everyone should know forever what a whore they are.  then they don't have to sleep with a whore.  no guy wants to sleep with a whore.

[Wimpy]

Yu shur tupid.  ha yu eat wit that mouf?

[Negentropic]

Ike I said to you before, you are wasting your time here with this shit. You'd get a better reception over at Hannity's forum or some other Zio-Nut neo-con hangout. If you insist that this is such a problem then here's what I suggest you do instead of polluting this forum with this toxic Jew-approved drivel -- Why don't you go get yourself a fucking rifle and head over there and start a revolution!?

Ahhhh!  He's back from the dead is he?   Did the medication calm you down?  :lol:  

You said nothing before and you're saying nothing now.  So give yourself a medal for saying jack shit! :lol:


What a laugh! It was Pipes before, it's Hannity now !  :lol:  

A smear campaign, smear tactic or simply smear is a metaphor for activity that can harm an individual or group's reputation by conflation with a stigmatized group (in this case the stigmatized group by leftists and anti-Zionists being Pipes, Kristol Neocons)

Conflation occurs when the identities of two or more individuals, concepts, or places, sharing some characteristics of one another, become confused until there seems to be only a single identity — the differences appear to become lost

Smear tactics differ from normal discourse or debate in that they do not bear upon the issues or arguments in question. A smear is a simple attempt to malign a group or an individual and to attempt to undermine their credibility

Smear tactics are commonly used to undermine effective arguments or critiques.


Let's take an example and see if we can fill in the spots for the exact same tactics used by so-called anti-zionists:

Anti-Semitism and Anti-Zionism
Normal human: What's anti-semitism?
Zionist: Well, since Israel is a Jewish state, any criticism of Israel is anti-semitism.
NH: Israel is a Jewish state and has acted despicably toward the Palestinians. It deserves criticism!
Zio: Ooh! You anti-semite! How could you say such a thing! Are you a Nazi? Oh!oh!oh! Anti-semite!
NH: Actually, Israel's despicable actions have made anti-semitism almost respectable.
Zio: Oooohh!! [Faints rather than acknowledge facts evident to everyone else.]


Anti-Zionim and Zionist Shilling

Normal human: What's zionist shilling?
Anti-Zionist: Well, since Israel is a criminal, zionist state, any sustained criticism of Israel's enemies, no matter how well-deserved and justified, and even if the enemies are big criminals themselves, aids and abets the real enemy, World Zionism, and is therfore Zionist shilling.
NH: Iran is also a criminal state and has acted despicably towards its own population. It's laws and record prove it. It deserves criticism!
Anti-Zionist: Ooh! You Jew Neo-Con bastard ! How could you say such a thing! Are you a Yid? Hey, do us all a favor and stop pretending you're a Gentile! Oh!oh!oh! You Pro-war son-of-a-Pipes! I have spotted a Kike!
NH: Actually, Iran's despicable actions towards its own citizens as shown in their laws and criminal code have made being anti-fundamentalist-Islam-tyranny almost respectable.
anti-Zio: Shut Up Kike, Beat it Yid! [Faints rather than acknowledge facts evident to everyone else.]



Shit?  You should know, you specialize in it. You're calling what I wrote 'shit'' after you came in here with ZERO LOGICAL ARGUMENT AND nothing but a non-stop barrage of 25 straight kike-this and kike-that insults and SMEARS and were  proven to be two-faced hypocrite with your own post?  :lol: And Khanverse was banned from this forum just for calling a few dudes white supremacists?  The hypocrisy of this forum is beyond absurd! Enough to make all white men smile!



 :lol: Yapin his non-sensical bullcrap again trying to save face after he got smacked like a Chihuhua dumping on the carpet :lol:



Not that your yapping is worthy of  a reponse but I'll be nice. I  already said I was anti-war and I already said I don't care what you think, so go be a festering zit on somebody else's ass, huh?


And even if I was genuinely pro-War like Chihuaha says: Using your own hare-brained logic: Why don't you go live in Iran right now and fight the good fight for the 'sand critters' and Fundamentalist SHIZZLAM as you yourself called them and it in your own post (hee hee ha ha what a ridiculous phony :lol: )  and experience some of this 'good life' :

[youtube:g4b9xbe8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YphdANokeqk[/youtube]g4b9xbe8]
pretty damned good method actors aren't they?

[youtube:g4b9xbe8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7aLxywU-88[/youtube]g4b9xbe8]
all this guy did was protest some girl getting arrested for not having the proper state-approved clothes on.
Let's see how you like getting whipped in public Monkey-boy!  Staged performance to discredit the regime worthy of Marlon Brando isn't it?

And the academy award for best actor in KING OF THE HYPOCRITES goes to Chihuaha Monkey Boy in Canada!  May he live long and prosper and yap again and get his nose stuck in his own doo again.  :lol:  

[sirbadman]

Ok who is going to terminate this negen guy from the forum?

He sounded like he was full of crap from when he joined.

I've told him about trying to make his posts concise, about avoiding all the different colours, about getting rid of the lame images he uses and he still persists.

Negen wants to bash DBS and labels his followers as some kind of cult, and he clearly wants to bash Iran like any of the jewcons you can see on tv.

Now he's making an ass of himself trying to attack MSMD.

We dont need BS TIU members like this guy. OBviously there has been a ramp up in this sort of shit ever since the IDF started recruiting people to post shit full time.

Negen is just here to waste our time and pollute all the posts in TIU to make us all look crazy, plus to slag off important people who have had success in spreading the truth.

[MonkeySeeMonkeyDo]

Ok who is going to terminate this negen guy from the forum?

He sounded like he was full of crap from when he joined.

I've told him about trying to make his posts concise, about avoiding all the different colours, about getting rid of the lame images he uses and he still persists.

Negen wants to bash DBS and labels his followers as some kind of cult, and he clearly wants to bash Iran like any of the jewcons you can see on tv.

Now he's making an ass of himself trying to attack MSMD.

We dont need BS TIU members like this guy. OBviously there has been a ramp up in this sort of shit ever since the IDF started recruiting people to post shit full time.

Negen is just here to waste our time and pollute all the posts in TIU to make us all look crazy, plus to slag off important people who have had success in spreading the truth.

yeah, I think he might have downs-syndrome or something; probably semi-retarded. I want to ban him but I'm afraid that if I do he might off himself seeing as relentlessly spewing useless clownish junk on this forum seems to be the highlight of his day each day -- he's on here 24/7.

What to do, what to do...  :problem: :lol:

[Travis]

yeah, I think he might have downs-syndrome or something; probably semi-retarded.

Please do not compare Negentropic to people who by no fault of their own have mental problems. Negentropic is a willing **** (Oxford definition: B: an unpleasant or stupid person)

What to do, what to do... :problem: :lol:

You got any cheese?

[Brandyman]

[Ahmed]

All of this   clown's Iran trash talk proves one thing -- he doesn't give a shit about Palestinians, he doesn't give a shit about Iraqis, he doesn't give a shit about Afghans and he certainly doesn't give a shit about Iranians otherwise he wouldn't be non-stop promoting pro-war Talmudic propaganda that rivals the shit put out by the likes of William Kristol, Daniel Pipes and Pamela Geller.

Absolutely, Negentropic gave himself away early on, but I was still prepared to give him the benefit of the doubt, put it down to him being a Lady Gaga-esque attention seeker of some kind.

But when someone compares having a different point of view to him, as being the equivalent of supporting the rape of a virgin. Well then you're in Talmudic territory without a map.

One of Negen's most blatant nods to the self-chosen was in a thread when he posted a bunch of quotes on the nature of truth. Fine,  but the only one that wasn't referenced was one from The Talmud! You've got to hand it to him for sheer chutzpah and an unwavering commitment to the spread of cointel-pro disinformation. The whole Hitler bait-and-switch routine wasn't a bad bit of theatre either    'Hitler was great'  

Now will you all please stop this smear campaign against Negentropic, after all, this forum with our "...little roster of 40-50 loyal members" is enough to damage his credibility on an international level  :lol:

[CrackSmokeRepublican]

From what I've heard....

A group of concerned Goyim citizens found his scamming Zio-Ass....and kicked it hard with Angry Goyim Truth... so it looks like the Corrupter, "NegenTropic",  is finally gone .... to crazy Yiddo land where he belongs.  

[Ahmed]

From what I've heard....

A group of concerned Goyim citizens found his scamming Zio-Ass....and kicked it hard with Angry Goyim Truth.

 :clap:

[Travis]

Anyone can use the net...