Hello.

[Panoptimist]

I came upon the forums following some web-trail that led me to a thread on the presence of an Illuminati member in WeAreChangeNYC. I recently moved to this city (oh, what was I thinking), on impulse, and looking into the group I learned immediately that they're a bunch of propagandists and people who don't know any better...

...I met a 'mentor' upon my arrival here who led me down a much more 'esoteric' rabbit hole... I've always been skeptical, always questioned authority, etc. When I was first to exposed to the 9/11 false-flag, I got as serious in acting as I thought I could as an 18-year-old college student who previously knew or cared nothing for government or policy. In those first years I became involved with the Campaign For Liberty Group and the Young Americans for Liberty Group, helped establish a homegrown paper, etc. Now, I realize, I've been misinformed even in those endeavors.

I moved to this city from the middle of the woods - quite counter-intuitive in retrospect. However, in my short time here, I've gained a wealth of knowledge that only experience could provide. Along with making some major changes mentally and physically (law of attraction and positive thinking as 'the secret', eating as clean and well as I can). These past few months I've been introduced to another side of the 'conspiracy' coin, the deeper side. My journey has brought me to metaphysical dissertations and locations that I never before could have even conceived (and I have always felt, in some deep way, 'tuned in'). Things have been clicking and I'm beginning to learn that my entire approach to life has been completely wrong - I want to change for the better. Instead of fighting this system, I'm slowly learning to create my own.

I'm here to make sense of the philosophy behind these global catastrophes, to understand the reality of 'the elite', to situate metaphysically a working conception of the plan and motives of not only the powers that be, but the bigger picture as well. I'd like to learn a lot more about the role of Zionists in 'the plan', the difference between Zionism and Hasidicism. I live in a purely jewish neighborhood now, and am trying to come to grips with some of their customs, mannerisms, etc. I'd like to understand more about the history and metaphysics/ontology - some of things I've learned are pretty scary.

I'm a college senior studying English, Journalism, and Philosophy. Ultimately, I feel that I can learn a lot from being here.
I've got a blog too, but considering the thought that dwelling on negative that cannot be immediately changed, it may just be a fruitless form of self-expression/release of energy more than anything else. Still, I don't know why certain issues are not receiving more attention; it will be impossible to teach philosophy/psychology/metaphysics of 'the big picture' to everyone, but we can wake them up by emphasizing the most important things. Anyway, enough of the serial digressions. Here's my blog if interested: panoptimist.againstnwo.com

Look forward to future discussion.  

[Ognir]

[Panoptimist]

:up:

[kolnidre]

Nice intro. Don't be so hard on yourself, i.e. "getting it all wrong." You are where you are in this journey, and without your previous experiences you would never have arrived at this point.

I had to laugh at your statement that you live in an entirely Jewish neighborhood. That describes practically the whole of NYC!

Personally I don't think there is much apprciable difference between Hasidism and Zionism, except that Zionism is chock full of "secular" Jews and useful idiots who in some twisted way think of themselves as Christians. All are related to the notion that Jews are different from other lesser humans (untermenschen) and thus should have license to exercise dominion over the goyim. So-called "Torah true" Jews and Talmudists all believe in the same ludicrous myths of a jealous, murderous god and his side occupation as a real estate agent.

[Panoptimist]

Thanks a lot for the reply. Kind words are much appreciated. By the way, can anyone answer me this question: is there a particular reason why Jews are freakishly scared of dogs (I can think of one obvious one)?

[asianlion7]

Welcome,

So-called "Torah true" Jews and Talmudists all believe in the same ludicrous myths of a jealous, murderous god and his side occupation as a real estate agent.

This group is full of proud-to-be atheists.  The second I joined this group I was harassed for believing in the jealous ONE.  The jealous ONE is very jealous because the jealous one gets so little love.  A lack of love is a recipe for Jealousy.  When people give their hearts to evil spirits like Lucifer/Satan, it makes the Jealous ONE especially Jealous.

Communist Jews plan to destroy all faiths and property rights then have a one world religion for Lucifer.   Albert Pike the freemason mentions that WWIII is a orchestrated scrap between Muslims, Christians and Atheists, all of which will get exhausted after fighting, then embrace Lucifer.   Ironically in this "Anti-zionist" site, there are some that have already fallen for the Communist objective to despise all faiths.  Atheists scorn all faiths but have no problem accepting the faith of Charles Darwin's unproven theories.  Charles Darwin first studied Theology then did a 180 degree turn to promote atheist non sense.  Why?

Evolution is no way an recent idea.  There are cuniform tablets from ancient Mesepotiamia with descriptions of evolution.  Even if creatures are changing into different ones, it still doesn't explain how life first stated.  The atheist would argue life first EVOLVED; But how can things EVOLVE out of nothing?

The fundamental difference between Hasidicism and Zionism is that zionists believe you can have a Israeli state before the messiah comes and a the Hasidics don't.  However both Hasidic and Zionists both generally reject Yeshua.  I really don't see how wearing Russian clothes and a hat too small for your head can make you pious.

Do you believe in Yeshua? Many of these New-Agers(really babylonian Mystery religion Old-Agers) will scorn the notion of Yeshua, but have no problem with accepting Buddah which I find hypocritical.

I notice on your blog at panoptimist.againstnwo.com you have Jesse Ventura and Alex Jones - WARNING !!! THESE JOKERS ARE SHILLS!  

  too

[Timothy_Fitzpatrick]

You will find Jews and Freemasons in the We Are Change leadership. Thanks to this forum, it has been made known. Kudos to those posters.



http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4616984 ... _-_Poncins

[kolnidre]

This group is full of proud-to-be atheists.  The second I joined this group I was harassed for believing in the jealous ONE.  The jealous ONE is very jealous because the jealous one gets so little love.  A lack of love is a recipe for Jealousy.  When people give their hearts to evil spirits like Lucifer/Satan, it makes the Jealous ONE especially Jealous.

There is probably a majority of atheists here because the membership is a cross-section of people living in a mostly faithless world, many of whom grew up in the past several decades when Christianity was being mocked, undermined and destroyed, while materialism was promoted full force. Now that materialism has usurped faith the would-be controllers are inserting Gaia worship at the same time they're pushing to accept lowered standards of living.

I believe God is good, and that if God is good God isn't petty or jealous. The god of the Old Testament reads to me like a personification of nature, conjured up to exercise control over people. Like the way parents make up things to put a little scare into their children to make them easier to manage. In fact, both organized religion and society have been designed specifically for the purpose of making people easy to manage and control.

[asianlion7]

I believe God is good, and that if God is good God isn't petty or jealous.

If people are married or in a relationship and someone is cheated on, if the other party is truly in love, they get jealous.

Solomon and other Jews began worshiping evil spirits their ancestors were warned not to bother with like, Baal, Ashtoreth, Moloch(burning alive their first born babies), etc.. which made their Creator so jealous, the Jews were dispersed all over the earth and Jerusalem burned to the ground.

[asianlion7]

http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4616984 ... _-_Poncins

Sweet link. Thanks.

 :up:

[Panoptimist]

Thanks for the continued discussion. I'm starting to learn that I don't know anything about Judaism.  

Personally, when it comes to beliefs of a "divine" nature, I've never been able to put my finger on where I stand. Not Atheist, but I don't believe in a "god", at least how is described in mainstream religions. It's something to do more with an "energy", a feeling of being a part of or involved in some "absolute." As I've always been a pretty negative person, and waking up to a lot of this shit has only encouraged that negativity, I've been recommended to start studying the law of attraction, and the power of the subconscious mind in directing action. I know there is a lot of truth in the notion that you really do attract what you get. I can literally FEEL connections I have with certain people, animals, situations, and I know the idea of positive reaping positive holds very true. As I look back on my life I realize this is the case. As I begin to apply the 'science' of this, I see it working. Like anything, its a discipline I have to stay at. I believe in things like "ether". I believe we've been purposefully removed from the truths of life - for example, the sheer power of experience, of feeling, of the metaphysical. I'm learning now that I must perfect myself before I can do anything else. In some sense, I must first be the master of my own temple.

I'll print a copy of the book as well. Thanks for that.

I was the kid at 10 years old standing in the middle of the woods, looking around and up at the trees asking, "What am I? Who am I?" Trying to tease out those big fucking monsters of thoughts at that young age left me mysti fuckin fied. Naturally, I gravitated toward the realm of philosophy. I began to fall in love with the philosophy of existentialism, specifically Sartre's brand. Now I'm starting to learn that while he makes some great points, maybe he was just complicating the real issue. Lots of these guys (read: philosophers) come across to me as disinformation agents now, though in them there is to be found a wealth of knowledge.

[thirdeyewise]

The fundamental difference between Hasidicism and Zionism is that zionists believe you can have a Israeli state before the messiah comes and a the Hasidics don't.  

Chabad Lubavitch is all over this plan for world conquest; they're hasidics, right?

http://www.amalekite.blogspot.com/


They are orthodox Jews, right? So that means they believe in the old testament saying that the Jews will rule the world. They are in effect Zionist.
It seems to me that there is a cooperation between most of these sects to accomplish Jewish goals.

[Timothy_Fitzpatrick]

The fundamental difference between Hasidicism and Zionism is that zionists believe you can have a Israeli state before the messiah comes and a the Hasidics don't.  

Chabad Lubavitch is all over this plan for world conquest; they're hasidics, right?

http://www.amalekite.blogspot.com/


They are orthodox Jews, right? So that means they believe in the old testament saying that the Jews will rule the world. They are in effect Zionist.
It seems to me that there is a cooperation between most of these sects to accomplish Jewish goals.

Just a correction: The Old Testament doesn't say Jews would rule the world, it says the anointed one (Messiah) would. However, many Jews believe they are collectively the Messiah, as Marx once stated.

[asianlion7]

Chabad Lubavitch is all over this plan for world conquest; they're hasidics, right?

http://www.amalekite.blogspot.com/


They are orthodox Jews, right? So that means they believe in the old testament saying that the Jews will rule the world. They are in effect Zionist.
It seems to me that there is a cooperation between most of these sects to accomplish Jewish goals.

Fritz Spingmeier is rotting in jail for deprogramming MKUltra slaves and exposing evil.  Fritz' work shows that the Illuminati is set up like an onion.  The outside of the onion has various religious groups like the Mormons, Jahovah's Witness, Sufi Muslims, etc..  At the core of the onion of ALL these religious groups are elite Satanists that keep the members at the outside layer in complete ignorance.  

I suspect the Chabad Lubavitch has been infiltrated by Sabbatean-Frankist Satanists.  A true Jew does not worship Satan/Lucifer.  The Rothschilds are Sabbatean-Frankists and believe Lucifer is God. Yeshua called Jews the worship Lucifer, the Synagogue of Satan.

John Todd (Lance Collins) was an emissary for Phillipe De Rothschild.  John Todd payed off fake Christian churches, barked orders at presidents like Jimmy Carter who is really a Satanist, and murdered babies in Satanic rituals with senators but later became a born again Christian himself.

John Todd explains that witches call witchcraft "The Force" just like in Star Wars.  As he climbed up the Illuminati ladder the Satanists explained to him everything he learned in witchcraft was nonsense.  Witches believe that Lucifer is the good God and Christ (Yeshua) is the evil one and imitator.  Then as he became a Satanist he was taught another set of beliefs.  High level Satanists like the Rothschilds believe that Lucifer and Christ is the same!

Movies like the "SECRET" with it's laws attraction are just entry level recruitment for wanna-be witches who are still at the lowest level believing only in "Energy" and scorning the idea of any god. If they ever get to eat babies with the Rothschilds, they will believe Christ and Lucifer are the same.

Everyone needs to stop judging the outside world's outwards appearance.  Fritz said the number one front alter of these multiple personality MKUltra Satanists is CHRISTIAN CLERGY.

The Chabad Lubbies are are a front for the Prince Of Darkness.

[Timothy_Fitzpatrick]

Chabad Lubavitch is all over this plan for world conquest; they're hasidics, right?

http://www.amalekite.blogspot.com/


They are orthodox Jews, right? So that means they believe in the old testament saying that the Jews will rule the world. They are in effect Zionist.
It seems to me that there is a cooperation between most of these sects to accomplish Jewish goals.

Fritz Spingmeier is rotting in jail for deprogramming MKUltra slaves and exposing evil.  Fritz' work shows that the Illuminati is set up like an onion.  The outside of the onion has various religious groups like the Mormons, Jahovah's Witness, Sufi Muslims, etc..  At the core of the onion of ALL these religious groups are elite Satanists that keep the members at the outside layer in complete ignorance.  

I suspect the Chabad Lubavitch has been infiltrated by Sabbatean-Frankist Satanists.  A true Jew does not worship Satan/Lucifer.  The Rothschilds are Sabbatean-Frankists and believe Lucifer is God. Yeshua called Jews the worship Lucifer, the Synagogue of Satan.

John Todd (Lance Collins) was an emissary for Phillipe De Rothschild.  John Todd payed off fake Christian churches, barked orders at presidents like Jimmy Carter who is really a Satanist, and murdered babies in Satanic rituals with senators but later became a born again Christian himself.

John Todd explains that witches call witchcraft "The Force" just like in Star Wars.  As he climbed up the Illuminati ladder the Satanists explained to him everything he learned in witchcraft was nonsense.  Witches believe that Lucifer is the good God and Christ (Yeshua) is the evil one and imitator.  Then as he became a Satanist he was taught another set of beliefs.  High level Satanists like the Rothschilds believe that Lucifer and Christ is the same!

Movies like the "SECRET" with it's laws attraction are just entry level recruitment for wanna-be witches who are still at the lowest level believing only in "Energy" and scorning the idea of any god. If they ever get to eat babies with the Rothschilds, they will believe Christ and Lucifer are the same.

Everyone needs to stop judging the outside world's outwards appearance.  Fritz said the number one front alter of these multiple personality MKUltra Satanists is CHRISTIAN CLERGY.

The Chabad Lubbies are are a front for the Prince Of Darkness.

You disinformationists are all the same. Blame it on absolutely anything other than Judaism, even if you have to make up a bunch of different groups. If you weren't so obvious, you might be believable.

[Panoptimist]

Abe Lincoln and Obama are cut from the same mold. The Civil War was designed to kill the South's best men; the only men who could fight were healthy boys, adolescents, and men. Women and children stayed home, along with the crippled and unfit and old. The Civil War is why the South has the stigma of "inbred" and "poor". If you've never heard of Goldenseal, there's a reason... Someone explain these:





He just looks like a lizard or something...something really not right about this guy...

Another blue-blood...









Not Booth...:rolleyes:  







Anyone note the correlation here? I'm assuming all of this is elementary. Of course we never see these pictures...it was an interesting find to me.

[asianlion7]

You disinformationists are all the same. Blame it on absolutely anything other than Judaism, even if you have to make up a bunch of different groups. If you weren't so obvious, you might be believable.

 

The Rothschilds are Jews which are at the top of the Satanic pyramid and answer only to Lucifer.  Witches and Satanists consider the Rothschilds gods.

Yes it's the Jews alright, but mainly the ones that worship Satan.  A true faithful Jew does not worship Satan/Lucifer.  Nice try on smearing me. Better luck next time.

  for Yeshua

[Timothy_Fitzpatrick]

The whole line: it's not the Jews, it's the Frankists.

It's not the Jews, it's the Sabbateans.

It's not the Jews, it's the Jesuits.

It's not the Jews, it's the Bilderbergers. and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on.....

Don't you see your contradiction? You cry that Jews can't be blamed as one collective group, yet people like you turn around and single out specific groups. Perhaps you cannot see your own bias.

[asianlion7]

http://jewsribsinbearjaw.wordpress.com/ ... for-satan/

http://www.kt70.com/~jamesjpn/articles/ ... minati.htm

http://www.whale.to/b/sp/springmeier_h.html

[jenniferhoops01]

Hello Friends, I am new on this Forum.

[Ognir]

welcome to you

[Christopher Marlowe]

Welcome Panoptimist.

Personally, when it comes to beliefs of a "divine" nature, I've never been able to put my finger on where I stand. Not Atheist, but I don't believe in a "god", at least how is described in mainstream religions. It's something to do more with an "energy", a feeling of being a part of or involved in some "absolute."

I used to be there. I was an "existentialist", and my feelings about Christianity were largely informed by Nietzsche, whose name I can spell without a spell-check.

In the University, I was taught about the Bible by a Jewish professor who taught literary criticism. I did not question his beliefs, but merely made them my own because they fit in with my rebellion against the Church. As long as I could explain how the Bible text was edited together, I felt that put me beyond believing in what the Book had to say. No rational person could espouse faith into a book that was edited to allow differing political philosophies concerning the Mosaic priesthood, sacrifices, genealogy, etc...

I think that I sought God, and I considered myself a disciple of the Truth.

As I've always been a pretty negative person, and waking up to a lot of this shit has only encouraged that negativity, I've been recommended to start studying the law of attraction, and the power of the subconscious mind in directing action. I know there is a lot of truth in the notion that you really do attract what you get. I can literally FEEL connections I have with certain people, animals, situations, and I know the idea of positive reaping positive holds very true. As I look back on my life I realize this is the case. As I begin to apply the 'science' of this, I see it working. Like anything, its a discipline I have to stay at. I believe in things like "ether". I believe we've been purposefully removed from the truths of life - for example, the sheer power of experience, of feeling, of the metaphysical. I'm learning now that I must perfect myself before I can do anything else. In some sense, I must first be the master of my own temple.

It's interesting to hear thoughts similar to my own calling back to me from twenty years.

For me, the Truth came hard and fast. That was in the days before the internets, and my conscious was a awakened by a series of coincidences that became to great to ignore. I was forced to conclude that God existed, because messages, immediate responses to my own current thought, were being communicated to me everywhere by my surroundings: lights, voices, images and writings spoke to my in words and pictures that I understood. So I reasoned that God existed and was conscious.

There is a leap of faith here that God is a Good and Just and Merciful God, rather than an petty, mean and spiteful God.  That belief gets at the duality expressed by those Luciferians and others who engage in debate as to whether satan is god, or friends with God, or God's attorney.  IMHO, the only God who is worthy of praise is a God that is wholly Good. What is the point in worshiping a God only because he is stronger than I am?

I don't expect that you have to accept my recollections as proof of anything, but perhaps as my own Truth. There is always the explanation that I had a psychotic episode, and that I am only bearing witness to that.

Everyone must find his own Truth.  In climbing the mountain of Faith, he inspects each foothold for himself.  If he follows some faker to the wrong peak, or later tumbles from a perch of disbelief, he has only his own bad judgment to blame.

I won't be overlong because I know I could write tedious volumes on this subject. But I only wanted to send a note of encouragement to continue along your path. The Truth is your best guide, because God will never require that you should be false.

One of my own pitfalls was my own stubborn refusal to acknowledge that I could never be the "master of my own temple". In pursuing the Good, the Moral, the Fearless God, I always fell short of these attributes in my own estimation. I could never become worthy of God's love, although I still considered worthiness a prerequisite.  I had this idea in the back of my mind that I would someday figure out a code that would explain God, or that I would uncover some writing that unlock the mystery of the universe.  But all of these ideas are based in my own self-worship: The idea that I could work to make myself worthy.

It was after years of consistent failure that I came to realize that I could never justify myself, and that my failure was okay because God still loves me. I am now a Catholic and I confess my belief in Jesus as my Savior. I have come to believe that the entirety of the Holy Bible is to gather the chosen people of God to Jesus, and that every story, every verse of the Bible was created for that purpose. Everything I do that is good was a gift from God because I could not even begin to imagine what goodness is, let alone accomplish such a feat without God's grace.  The world is entirely too tricky for me to figure out.  

So I'll leave that with you to ponder. I don't wish to control what you do, because I don't feel that I was appointed your master. But you can take it in the spirit of one who, upon seeing a stranger embarking on a journey, would point out that the stranger should bring a flashlight.

[Panoptimist]

Welcome Panoptimist....

Christopher,

Shortly after I came across this forum and made this post I discovered this piece of material: http://www.archive.org/download/TheLawO ... hought.pdf (It was actually after I had read sever other of Atkinson's works that I came across this. It's the best starting place in my opinion, so I am proffering it.)

I'm actually quite surprised at your choice in Catholicism. Not that it is a bad thing necessarily, just based on your account. After learning "the law," I've become quite interested in occult history. I am now able to look back on certain instances in my life and see exactly how the law was in action the whole time. I've since confirmed it. Now that I know the law in its purest form, it makes me wonder about the mode of a lot of our secret societies and philosophies. Certain philosophers certainly tried to reveal the truth in such a way that you still had to pull the wheat from the chaff, but I can't understand the diversity in application when it comes to the law - the different occult schools practice it differently, but at the top they all know the same law. I gather that those philosophers and thinkers who did try to reveal the law in their own way did so because they did want us to draw their same conclusions based on our own experience - and they to guide us through it. This is why, based on my new understanding, I need to go back and read the greats, particularly "Meditations." Still, I'm ultimately taking this law to its logical conclusion...

Have you read "The Myth of Sisyphus" by Camus? You may be able to pull something from that. Specifically interesting to me is your relationship with God - it seems so self-imposed. Why put so many barriers in front of yourself when it comes to faith? It seems like some of it is based on a general pseudo scientific/religious psychology that pervades society. Especially the guilt, or worth (lackthereof).

I've still been slipping, don't get me wrong, and I find that I'm still bogged down by much flak. It's been hard to keep my mind clear, especially with the start of another school year - and certainly now that I'm no longer interested in what I'm learning in the classroom or how it is taught (though my professors are some of the best people I've ever met in the world.) The law is ALWAYS in effect. And HERE'S WHAT THE MASONS/JEWS (read: elite) KNOW: The average person WILL NOT take responsibility, WILL NOT CONSCIOUSLY APPLY THE LAW IN EVERY SINGLE ACTION. WE HAVE NO CONSCIOUS/MENTAL DISCIPLINE. It's much MUCH easier to hide this knowledge now (really for several reasons).

Thanks for your kind welcome!



Oh, and welcome to the other new member who graced the thread with her presence!


P.S. I've since bought Freemasonry & Judaism (referred to me in the thread, thanks!)...got it today! A MUST READ FOR ANYONE NEW TO THIS OR WANTS TO HONE THEIR KNOWLEDGE!! Hell of a bibliography. I'm going to grab the rest of Poncins' stuff. I've also been thinking about stopping by the publisher - they're close by.

PEACE AND LOVE.

[Christopher Marlowe]

Have you read "The Myth of Sisyphus" by Camus? You may be able to pull something from that.

I haven't read that one yet. I read "The Stranger" and "The Plague".  

Specifically interesting to me is your relationship with God - it seems so self-imposed.

Perhaps. But my faith was awakened by a conscious contact with a higher power that seemed omniscient, omnipotent and omnipresent. Of course I can't give you my thoughts and experiences, but it was enough for me.

"For those who have faith, no explanation is necessary. For those who don't, none will suffice."

Why put so many barriers in front of yourself when it comes to faith? It seems like some of it is based on a general pseudo scientific/religious psychology that pervades society. Especially the guilt, or worth (lackthereof).

I don't know that I put barriers in front of myself.

Is guilt necessary?  I think guilt has a proper function.  e.g. Most people would be offended by someone who committed a horrific act of violence against an innocent person and yet felt no guilt. Such a person would be said to have no conscience.  That person would be a sociopath.  

I would say that guilt is a the conscience awakened by its own fault.  Not by accident, but by doing something it knew to be wrong. Why would someone do something they knew was wrong? St. Paul says,

I do not understand my own behaviour; I do not act as I mean to, but I do things that I hate.
While I am acting as I do not want to, I still acknowledge the Law as good,
so it is not myself acting, but the sin which lives in me.

Even people who are not sociopaths do things that they know are wrong. Why?

It was my own inability to be perfect that I recognized. I was not worthy of calling myself perfect because I knew that would be a lie.

It's very interesting that even Christians get caught up in the trap of trying to justify themselves. But that is a trap that is commonly believed by most in society.  They take pride in their own accomplishments, rarely recognizing all the grace that went into their birth and upbringing, let alone the very structure of the universe and their own flesh and blood. All these factors were beyond their control, but they still take credit for their achievement.  Out of Pride.  

A very clever book was put out a couple of years ago: "The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night-Time" by Mark Haddon.  He has a brilliant take on this topic.    

PEACE AND LOVE.

Yes. Peace and love.

[CrackSmokeRepublican]

Careful with that one.  It speaks of the same Blavatsky - Nationalism - Eastern Mysticism that seep through many "New Age" movements in American Occultism.
This is likely a Jew. His wife's name was Black which is typically Jewish in the US.

Mysteries of the Qabalah
by Elias Gewurz (pseud. William Walker Atkinson?) [1922]
Theosophy infused with Jewish mysticism

http://www.sacred-texts.com/eso/moq/index.htm

Seems like he had a number of pseudonyms throughout his career.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Walker_Atkinson

Note Chicago becoming the center of Mysticism about the time a large number of Rabbis settled there from Russia:

By the early 1890s Chicago had become a major centre for New Thought, mainly through the work of Emma Curtis Hopkins, and Atkinson decided to move there. Once in the city, he became an active promoter of the movement as an editor and author. He was responsible for publishing the magazines Suggestion (1900–1901), New Thought (1901–1905) and Advanced Thought (1906–1916).

In 1900 Atkinson worked as an associate editor of Suggestion, a New Thought Journal, and wrote his probable first book, Thought-Force in Business and Everyday Life, being a series of lessons in personal magnetism, psychic influence, thought-force, concentration, will-power, and practical mental science.

He then met Sydney Flower, a well-known New Thought publisher and businessman, and teamed up with him. In December, 1901 he assumed editorship of Flower's popular New Thought magazine, a post which he held until 1905. During these years he built for himself an enduring place in the hearts of its readers. Article after article flowed from his pen. Meanwhile he also founded his own Psychic Club and the so-called "Atkinson School of Mental Science". Both were located in the same building as Flower's Psychic Research and New Thought Publishing Company.
[edit] Publishing career and use of pseudonyms

Throughout his subsequent career, Atkinson wrote and published under his own name and many pseudonyms. It is not known whether he ever acknowledged authorship of these pseudonymous works, but all of the supposedly independent authors whose writings are now credited to Atkinson were linked to one another by virtue of the fact that their works were released by a series of publishing houses with shared addresses and they also wrote for a series of magazines with a shared roster of authors. Atkinson was the editor of all of those magazines and his pseudonymous authors acted first as "contributors" to the periodicals, and were then spun off into their own book-writing careers—with most of their books being released by Atkinson's own publishing houses.

One key to unravelling this tangled web of pseudonyms is found in "Advanced Thought" magazine, billed as "A Journal of The New Thought, Practical Psychology, Yogi Philosophy, Constructive Occultism, Metaphysical Healing, Etc."

This magazine, edited by Atkinson, advertised articles by Atkinson, Yogi Ramacharaka, and Theron Q. Dumont—the latter two being pseudonyms of Atkinson—and it had the same address as The Yogi Publishing Society, which published the works attributed to Yogi Ramacharaka.

Advanced Thought magazine also carried articles by Swami Bhakta Vishita, but when it came time for Vishita's writings to be collected in book form, they were not published by the Yogi Publishing Society. Instead they were published by The Advanced Thought Publishing Co., the same house that brought out the Theron Q. Dumont books—and published Advanced Thought magazine.
[edit] Hinduism and yoga

In the 1890s, Atkinson had become interested in Hinduism and after 1900 he devoted a great deal of effort to the diffusion of yoga and Oriental occultism in the West. It is unclear at this late date whether he actually ever converted to any form of Hindu religion, or merely wished to write on the subject. If he did convert, he left no record of the event.

According to unverifiable sources, while Atkinson was in Chicago at the World's Columbian Exposition in 1893, he met one Baba Bharata, a pupil of the late Indian mystic Yogi Ramacharaka (1799 - c.1893). As the story goes, Bharata had become acquainted with Atkinson's writings after arriving in America, the two men shared similar ideas, and so they decided to collaborate. While editing New Thought magazine, it is claimed, Atkinson co-wrote with Bharata a series of books which they attributed to Bharata's teacher, Yogi Ramacharaka. This story cannot be verified and—like the "official" biography that falsely claimed Atkinson was an "English author" -- it may be a fabrication.

He may have helped kick off the early Nazi Party with tracts like these that speak of Vril...

The 'Arcane Teaching' Books

A series named The Arcane Teaching is also attributed to Atkinson. Perhaps significantly, the doctrine behind The Arcane Teaching is remarkably similar to the philosophy in The Kybalion (another title attributed to Atkinson), and significant portions of material from The Arcane Teaching were later re-worked, appearing nearly verbatim in The Secret Doctrines of the Rosicrucians by Magus Incognito (yet another Atkinson alias).

Nothing is known of the first edition of The Arcane Teaching, which apparently consisted of a single volume of the same name.

The second edition was expanded to include three 'supplementary teachings' in pamphlet form. The four titles in this edition were: The Arcane Teaching (hardback), The Arcane Formulas, or Mental Alchemy (pamphlet), The Mystery of Sex, or Sex Polarity (pamphlet), and Vril, or Vital Magnetism (pamphlet). This edition was published by A. C. McClurg—the same publisher who brought out the Tarzan the Ape-Man series by Edgar Rice Burroughs -- under the "Arcane Book Concern" imprint, and the name of the publisher, A. C. McClurg, doesn't actually appear anywhere upon the books in this edition. The series bears a 1909 copyright mark, listing the copyright holder as "Arcane Book Concern". There also appears to have been a pamphlet entitled Free Sample Lesson which was published under the "Arcane Book Concern" imprint, indicating that it may have appeared concurrently with this edition.

The third edition split the main title, The Arcane Teaching, into three smaller volumes, bringing the total number of books in the series to six. This edition consisted of the following titles (the three titles marked with an asterix (*) are the volumes that had appeared together as The Arcane Teaching in the previous edition): The One and the Many* (hardback), Cosmic Law* (hardback), The Psychic Planes* (hardback), The Arcane Formulas, or Mental Alchemy (binding unknown), The Mystery of Sex, or Sex Polarity (binding unknown), and Vril, or Vital Magnetism (binding unknown). The third edition of The Arcane Teaching was published by A. C. McClurg under its own name in 1911. The books in this series bear the original 1909 copyright, plus a 1911 copyright listing "Library Shelf" as the new copyright holder.

A search of the Library of Congress' web site has revealed that none of The Arcane Teaching series resides in its current collection.

[Panoptimist]

Thank you for the replies, guys.
Christopher, I understand much more clearly your perspective now. It seems mine is still very skewed.

CrackSmokeRepublican,

You are right. He's most surely associated with some masonic/Jewish sect. I didn't pick up on this until a few days ago. Now I really understand why they killed that dude. Jewdan Maxwell, Michael Judion, etc., are all shills...and a very dangerous kind.

I was quite disappointed to learn that promulgating "the law" in the form of self-help courses was a subversive masonic movement.

But it leads me to the question: In Atkinson, and a few other writers, you seem to get the whole truth. Sure, if I knew more about masonic terminology, maybe I'd find that it resonates, but they seem to provide a pure view of the law without strings attached. Please read Atkinsons' 'The Law of The New Thought." He seems removed - but divide and conquer is the name of the game...all of the secret societies are the same at the topic.

Blavatsky is the one who taught Alice Bailey (Lucis Trust).

This is why I think it will be good to go back and read Descartes Meditations...he attempted to reveal the secret then, shortly before masonry swallowed it up.

I know the law. The law contains the proof in itself that groups are in place to undermine the majority while supporting the minority.

Thanks for this information.

[Panoptimist]

I believe he may actually be legit. The real point is that he provides a seemingly unbiased point of view regarding the sacred knowledge. Though he does study and write about Jewish mysticism, I'm not keen enough to pick up on nuances that would reveal his "stance."

Regardless, once the law is understood, it becomes clear that giving attention to anything either in a positive or negative light always brings more of that thing.

50 pages. Worth the read.

http://www.archive.org/details/TheLawOfTheNewThought

[Panoptimist]

But New Thought and New Age do differ, whether or not both are viewed as religions. One big difference is interest in the occult. Crystals, pyramids, and other occult trappings belong to New Age( ), not New Thought. Unity  founders Charles and Myrtle Fillmore investigated various occult practices such as channeling early in their ministry and rejected them as largely ineffective and possibly even dangerous for dabblers. Still, New Thought does remain open to truth from whatever unlikely source it may spring. It may discourage interest in the occult, but it does not invariably condemn it.

In the early years of current New Age thinking, John Charles Cooper, in his Religion in the Age of Aquarius, characterized New Age interest in the occult as a wholesale rejection of a society founded on materialistic positivism (not to be confused with positive thinking). He found that this interest originated in people's frustration with social conditions that they believed that they could not control. If this is so, New Age and New Thought have different psychological origins; New Thought never has suffered from a feeling of inability to deal adequately with a world held to be essentially mental and subject to mental control.

The supposedly channeled New Age work, A Course in Miracles, purportedly coming from Jesus, remains popular among Unity churches despite efforts to discourage its use. Many people undoubtedly have been helped by the Course, especially by its emphasis on forgiveness and its discussion groups in which people share their problems, but it remains quintessentially New Age, not New Thought. New Agers Gerald Jampolsky and Marianne Williamson have mined the valuable nuggets of the Course and set them down admirably in their own writings. . . .

New Thought more nearly relies exclusively on spiritual healing than does New Age. New Thought allows and sometimes even encourages use of both conventional medicine and alternative healing methods, but recognizes them as outside New Thought. In contrast, most if not all of the alternative forms of healing are within the broad boundaries of New Age. . . .

Summary

New Thought concentrates on the power of the mind to heal and to prosper in a world in which all is mind. New Age especially extends this healing, prospering transformation to the entire planet, and with the inquisitiveness of youth, pokes its nose into numerous interesting corners, some clearly valuable, some questionable, in the process. It is possible to share in many of these interests, beliefs, and practices, yet continue to belong to mainstream Christianity or other religions. ( )

The success of both New Thought and New Age can be measured to a considerable extent by the degree to which their interests and teaching have seeped into cultures that neither know nor care about either group by name. By this measure, both are successful, and probably will become increasingly so. It seems almost certain that New Thought will continue in largely its current organizational ways. Many New Agers will find their way to New Thought organizations, but probably most will remain outside any organized religion, or even organized spirituality. However, the world is far too complex and the changes that are occurring are far too profound to make predictions worth much. What seems clear is that with or without capital letters, we have entered a promising new age, and New Thought will remain an important and distinguishable part of it.

New Thought = Pure.
New Age = Masonic/Jew Subversion.

[Panoptimist]

("New thought" is the oldest thought in the world.)

[Panoptimist]

And those who form groups based on any singular understanding of the law misunderstand the law completely. Masterminding seems the only effective result of "combining forces," as creating a group identity based on the association alone is completely false and is good only for those at the top who exploit the knowledge. Not to mention the bullshit rituals and "meditations" - bastardized conceptions of the law to used to keep the gullible in line.

The law is completely singular, completely subjective, and completely objective all at the same time.

I can see how these teachings adhere to the general plan of destroying the Old World and replacing it with the New, but there is a way to use their own principles against them - they just know that people are in general too bitch and too selfish to do anything.

How long do you think a radio host would last who shed the light on anti-Zionism, while at the same time using psychological methods to encourage people to GROUP TOGETHER not based on race, sex, creed, but CONSCIOUSNESS. LOL The elite would be fucked then...white America deserves what's coming. Just because our parents and grandparents fucked up shit for us doesn't mean we can avoid responsibility now. But we want to. And we will pay. While we sleep and watch T.V., someone is spending their time writing laws to govern us and building technology to watch us.