Albert Pike and 3 world wars letter is a hoax

Started by MikeWB, August 18, 2009, 01:24:30 AM

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MikeWB

Does anyone think this is real? This is a complete fabrication. Albert Pike was a lot of things but he was not a seer. This was written by someone else long, long after he died. Where's the original? Oh, it's hidden somewhere... Right!

QuoteCarr claimed the following was excerpted from a letter to Giusseppe Mazzini from Albert Pike, dated August 15, 1871:

"The First World War must be brought about in order to permit the Illuminati to overthrow the power of the Czars in Russia and of making that country a fortress of atheistic Communism. The divergences caused by the "agentur" (agents) of the Illuminati between the British and Germanic Empires will be used to foment this war. At the end of the war, Communism will be built and used in order to destroy the other governments and in order to weaken the religions."
"The Second World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences between the Fascists and the political Zionists. This war must be brought about so that Nazism is destroyed and that the political Zionism be strong enough to institute a sovereign state of Israel in Palestine. During the Second World War, International Communism must become strong enough in order to balance Christendom, which would be then restrained and held in check until the time when we would need it for the final social cataclysm."
"The Third World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences caused by the "agentur" of the "Illuminati" between the political Zionists and the leaders of Islamic World. The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam (the Moslem Arabic World) and political Zionism (the State of Israel) mutually destroy each other. Meanwhile the other nations, once more divided on this issue will be constrained to fight to the point of complete physical, moral, spiritual and economical exhaustion...We shall unleash the Nihilists and the atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil. Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with Christianity, whose deistic spirits will from that moment be without compass or direction, anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view. This manifestation will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time."3
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kolnidre

Is the "Carr" above William Guy Carr, author of Pawns in the Game?

As far as I'm concerned, like the Protocols it describes the agenda. It's disseminated to flaunt it in our faces, demoralize us, and get us to give up our free will in acceptance. Same with the Bible. Reads like a blueprint for an agenda to me, not a prophecy.

I'm less inclined to care about and get caught up in the details these days; rather, like LAV I'm interested in how things play out.
Take heed to yourself lest you make a covenant with the inhabitants of the land whither you go, lest it become a snare in the midst of you.
-Exodus 34]

MikeWB

Problem is that you'll be a victim of success bias if you think of it that way. We tend to record the successful predictions and ignore missed. This is called a confirmation bias. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias There's dozens of these types of hoaxes that people ignore because they're wrong. This one has a lot of truth to it so people spread it around and ascribe it to Pike. And it was definitely not written by Pike. When Pike lived, Zionism was not even a word. It just smells like bullshit.

This is not in the same class as Protocols. We know exactly when The Protocols were released and there's a long chain of newspaper articles and writers discussing them.

Pike's letter was "discovered" relatively recently and no one but one person has seen the original and no one else has discussed it when it was written in 1871. IN fact, no one has seen it nor discussed it for over 60 years. That means it's a fabrication.
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hurensohn

The language is too modern, A. Pike would not have worded it in that way.

kolnidre

Quote from: "MikeWB"Problem is that you'll be a victim of success bias if you think of it that way. We tend to record the successful predictions and ignore missed. This is called a confirmation bias. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias There's dozens of these types of hoaxes that people ignore because they're wrong.
What I'm saying is that it doesn't matter if it's a hoax or not. If you invest in it then it becomes real to you. I've come to the point where I observe and digest the data, but try not to get emotionally attached to any source of information or the information itself. Divide and conquer works because of attachments people make to push-button issues, individual "leaders," parties, policies, or agendas, leaving them open to manipulation. I can barely even summon enthusiasm for my favorite baseball team after a lifetime of passion for baseball, because I've observed how blind loyalty affects me/us. That's why I don't give a fuck about Obama and don't even care about the fate of "the Republic" as an institution, because it's all theater being played out before us. All we can do is live our lives as best we can and influence those we have a connection to - often without even trying.

Wasn't it John Coleman who supposedly first brought this letter to the forefront? I've had the feeling that guy is British intel ever since I first encountered him. Just like Alan Twat.
Take heed to yourself lest you make a covenant with the inhabitants of the land whither you go, lest it become a snare in the midst of you.
-Exodus 34]