Who do you trust? Alex Jones, David Icke, Michael Savage, Dr David Duke or Dr William Pierce?

[Whaler]

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Here's a discouraging comment left by a 'troofer'

you have zionism which is evil and brutal but this is just the same venom that killed 6 million people jews for just being jews.

Very much doubt he is a doctor!

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"we got a long way to go but a short time to get there"...I still see a staggering amount of stupidity from within the 'movement' and it is unsettling.

Can't let it keep ya down though...Keep on truckin.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3PJEZcA4Kw

[Androgynus]

I'll presume the title question is rhetorical... Still, I'd say that at least 50% of all alternate/independent media political commentators/presenters are some degree of recognizable to stealth disinformation agents (imo)... Obvious Actors such as Alex Jones or Glenn Beck also serve as useful mass-focus distractions in of themselves also.

I think what comprises "stupidity" has more to do with mixtures of ego, grades of immaturity and emotional attachments/denials to all sorts of social attachments and cherished symbolisms... Persistent, weighty mental stumbling blocks from within that silently distort objectivity, reality and critical truth-recognition.  

~~A~~

[Whaler]

I'll presume the title question is rhetorical... Still, I'd say that at least 50% of all alternate/independent media political commentators/presenters are some degree of recognizable to stealth disinformation agents (imo)... Obvious Actors such as Alex Jones or Glenn Beck also serve as useful mass-focus distractions in of themselves also.

I think what comprises "stupidity" has more to do with mixtures of ego, grades of immaturity and emotional attachments/denials to all sorts of social attachments and cherished symbolisms... Persistent, weighty mental stumbling blocks from within that silently distort objectivity, reality and critical truth-recognition.  

~~A~~

Yeah I would agree with that. The refusal of of some people to accept hard facts about Jewish power is a combo platter of emotional stupidity and ego.

I also think that many people refuse to accept reality and they think they are 'taking a stand' against the hateful "nazis"...They are so deeply programmed that they are simply unable to admit their world view is based on a fraudulent historical narrative.

The Jews have put electric PC dog collars on the baby boom/gen x generations. It has been so effective that even when people 'wake up' to the NWO, they are unable to make the next logical step in their awakening(realizing the origins, financing of the NWO is Jewish) To some people the thought of blaming Jews for anything evil is not an option.

Still, many people are waking up. The deniers are not as bold as they used to be. A couple of years ago, mentioning anything anti Jewish in the "troof movement' was met with total denial and shouts of "you anti-Semites are cointelpro disinfo agents!!!!"
Now these same people will admit to Zionism being a big deal but try to downplay it's importance. Now, your typical response from these robots is, "Zionism is just a part of the NWO, they don't run the NWO...they are being scapegoated...every race has it's elite criminals...the Jews are no different than other group..."

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Here is an example of someone that is still in complete and total denial still. According to him, Zionism "is nothing" and it's the Jesuits to blame.

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Re: There are still nitwits that think the Jesuits run it all
by thirdeyewise » Sat Oct 23, 2010 7:57 pm
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Yeah, and here is their king. This guy Mcduffy is a major moron. I thought he was Caucasian at first but then realized he is too pro Jewish,even when presented with indisputable evidence. Plus he has that Ashkenazi paleness about him.

There was something creepy about this guy but I could not put my finger on it. Then one day I noticed that he does not blink throughout the entire video...CREEPY! (in southern accent) I think this dude is one of them there psychopaths....for real!


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[Whaler]

FINDING TRUTH IN THE AGE OF DELUSION
By Rev. Ted Pike
25 Oct 10
http://www.truthtellers.org/alerts/find ... lusion.htm

Since I began my literary and video criticism of Jewish supremacism in the mid-1980s, various attempts to discredit me have been made. The first was a national campaign by Norman Lear's People for the American Way in 1988. More recently, the Anti-Defamation League and Southern Poverty Law Center have attacked. Various other groups, sometimes boasting as Jewish "experts," have tried but similarly failed, sliding off the Teflon barrier of sound reasoning and impeccable documentation.

Still, some readers are disoriented by these seemingly credible attacks. What are the steps a person must take to find the truth in a conflict?

When it comes to the Jewish agenda—and other controversial truths such as racial/gender differences or creationism—there is a great price to pay for taking the unpopular view. Most human beings fear man, not God and His truth. They reflexively and emotionally think of their own self-interest first. Even without realizing it, this egoism creates an intense, knee-jerk desire to reject painful or taboo truths, even if our intellect quietly says they might be right.

For this reason, the main impediment to finding truth is not intellectual but spiritual. Man must somehow be emboldened to attain a higher level of courage and conviction. The very first step for any truth seeker is to bow his knees before God, yielding himself and his whole life to God and asking for the willingness to pay any price for the sake of knowing truth and being on God's side.

"If this is God's truth, the whole truth about vital moral issues," we must pray, "I will face any offense or shame or loss of friends in order to defend it, to defend You."

Christ Himself is the Truth—the Logos, the explanatory principle and deepest of all realities. When we are servants of God's truth, we know Him. When we sacrifice for that truth, we draw closer to Christ, who paid the ultimate price for it. Christ promised that His Spirit will lead us into all truth (John 16:13) as we become His disciples through yielding to God absolutely everything we are and possess. (Matthew 10:37) This is the first and most central step toward finding and knowing the whole truth, especially about controversial and painful subjects. The second is to fearlessly compare new ideas with established fact, especially with the help of Biblical revelation.

However, if we look merely at surfaces and are not led by the Spirit of God in self-surrender and true logic, we will be deceived. Because evil is not bound by the truth and is demonically empowered, it is often intellectually acute, devious and charming. As a result, it can often outperform and out-debate those who simply tell the truth, sometimes in weakness and limitations. God has in fact not chosen the "wise" and strong—the philosophers and debaters of this age—to be His defenders. (1 Corinthians 1)

Today, Christians are so conditioned to fear and loathe anti-Semitism that they react emotionally, not rationally, to any criticism of evil Jewish leaders. (This reflexive, irrational response can also be observed toward other politically taboo statements, such as about racial differences or Holocaust inaccuracies.) Most Christians instinctively describe criticism of evil Jews as "hate" (cursing God's chosen people) and want to flee the conflict altogether. One thing frightened Christians almost never do is research "anti-Semitic" claims to see if they are substantiated.

In 1987, popular local talk show host Lew Davies accused me of anti-Semitism for two and a half afternoons on Oregon/Washington radio, even though he had never read my book or watched my video The Other Israel. Tens of thousands of listeners were alienated from me and our family's Christian/conservative pioneering leadership in the Northwest. In the following months and years, not one Christian wrote or called to ask about the sources I might present to justify my views critical of Jewish supremacism. (These include extensive documentation from Jewish encyclopedias, Talmud and Zohar, testimony from Jews themselves, etc.)

Jesus promised that if we seek, we will find. But in order to truly seek, we must actually want the whole truth, even if it costs us social comfort, friends, or even freedom. Few Christians want truth substantiating the threat of Jewish supremacism. They have a deep, visceral fear of how this truth would incur the anger of people around them. It's far easier to simply dismiss Ted Pike as an anti-Semitic hater and be done with the issue, fleeing danger as fast as possible. Clearly, the availability of truth isn't really the problem. Honest inquiry could fairly rapidly lead a person to see that my writings agree with Christ and the Hebrew prophets. The problem is the inability of most Christians to be willing to pay any price for truth. Babylon the Great, international Zionist control, is continuing to rise in power and corruption of the world, just as Scripture repeatedly predicts. "Israel-first" evangelicals will be judged for refusing to face this deeply important warning.

If the problem really is spiritual, how much can a truthteller argue with those who aren't even interested in the whole truth? Jesus rarely debated the insincere. The Pharisees repeatedly claimed that Jesus could not be Messiah since, they thought, he was born in Nazareth. On the authority of Scripture, they said, Messiah can only come from Bethlehem. Jesus could easily have set the record straight, but He wanted to test the people to see if they would believe according to the deeper, more substantial realities of His message and person. A few would. Most wouldn't. Similarly, when Paul visited far regions of the Mediterranean and asked if people knew about Christianity, some did but said it had a bad reputation; it was "everywhere spoken against." God allows lies to spread about Himself and His servants so that people will have to make a spiritual decision about whether to accept controversy and possible loss in order to know the whole truth.

At National Prayer Network, our ministry is remarkably free of substantive criticism after 26 years of total truthtelling about the Zionist danger. Yet God allows liars such as ADL and the SPC to be available to those wanting a "quick fix" to remove the vexing possibility that I am speaking the truth. Just as God allows Satan's existence, so He allows very tangible alternatives to the whole truth for those who are insincere. Will we look to God and use faith, reason, and truly honest inquiry—or will we take the path of least resistance and choose socially rewarding half-truths and lies?

God wants to test and judge those who don't want truth. There is a limit to how much I or any truthteller can respond to every quibble or accusation. Meanwhile, hundreds of thousands are coming to the whole, Biblical truth about Judaism and Israel at Truthtellers.org and are thanking God for what we are doing.

(Adapted from Rev. Ted Pike's recent Bible study, "Finding Truth in the Age of Delusion"
http://www.truthtellers.org/biblestudie ... lusion.mp3