The Vigor Wave Energy Converter

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CrackSmokeRepublican

November 27, 2010, 08:43:26 PM
The Vigor Wave Energy Converter is based on a floating hose, using water and air as mechanical parts to absorb the wave energy. The principle has the potential to produce large amounts of electricity at low cost and the Vigor Wave Energy Converter will be one of the power plant solutions supplying renewable and cost efficient energy to a future sustainable society.

http://www.vigorwaveenergy.com/
After the Revolution of 1905, the Czar had prudently prepared for further outbreaks by transferring some $400 million in cash to the New York banks, Chase, National City, Guaranty Trust, J.P.Morgan Co., and Hanover Trust. In 1914, these same banks bought the controlling number of shares in the newly organized Federal Reserve Bank of New York, paying for the stock with the Czar\'s sequestered funds. In November 1917,  Red Guards drove a truck to the Imperial Bank and removed the Romanoff gold and jewels. The gold was later shipped directly to Kuhn, Loeb Co. in New York.-- Curse of Canaan

Wimpy

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November 27, 2010, 09:33:17 PM Last Edit: November 27, 2010, 09:44:06 PM by Wimpy
There is more to the concept than shown and , surely, seeing will be believing.  The immediate problem I see would be maintaining a positive air pressure  at the tail end of the flow direction.  Without this, air would break the water seal via bubbling backwards through the segment of sea water; to much pressure and it breaks through the other way.  Once that occurs the entire length of tubing would just slosh sea water back and forth, with a little pouring out at the "turbine" end.  I think this could only work if each water 'segment' could somehow pass along the tube as a finite "cylinder" of water.  Rather small tubing would probably work in theory, however, due only to surface tension.  I envision hundreds of square miles of sea covered with 1' diameter hoses and tiny turbines, each generating  a few watts.  Scaling up this 'surface tension' effect won't work.

I have seen a more viable way to capture wave energy which uses a combination of "One Way" clutches, two large floating objects (say 10' square tanks) that are joined by a hinge shaft.  The shaft, via the one way clutches, turns in only one direction and captures the full wave energy.  The generator would be attached directly to the shaft.  Energy Output vs. Cost= Too Prohibitive.
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CrackSmokeRepublican

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November 27, 2010, 09:41:55 PM
Well Wimpy they have a video with a little more detail on how it works... it is basically an "air pump" :

[youtube:1skkh4ge]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fzM3BSGHc0[/youtube]1skkh4ge]


[youtube:1skkh4ge]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsGAFsnLCwQ[/youtube]1skkh4ge]


Looks like an improvement on this design though different:

[youtube:1skkh4ge]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0mzrbfzUpM[/youtube]1skkh4ge]

[youtube:1skkh4ge]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFD4vgHGEj4[/youtube]1skkh4ge]
After the Revolution of 1905, the Czar had prudently prepared for further outbreaks by transferring some $400 million in cash to the New York banks, Chase, National City, Guaranty Trust, J.P.Morgan Co., and Hanover Trust. In 1914, these same banks bought the controlling number of shares in the newly organized Federal Reserve Bank of New York, paying for the stock with the Czar\'s sequestered funds. In November 1917,  Red Guards drove a truck to the Imperial Bank and removed the Romanoff gold and jewels. The gold was later shipped directly to Kuhn, Loeb Co. in New York.-- Curse of Canaan

Wimpy

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November 27, 2010, 09:50:16 PM
I did watch the video before posting and I do like the music and graphics.  Where would this "net" positive air pressure be created?

I see check valves and possibly a small venturi effect.
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Wimpy

#4
November 27, 2010, 10:06:47 PM
Yes, the Hydraulic Cylinders feeding a Hydraulic Motor which turns a Generator shaft would definitely work (as the video proves).  Again, I suspect the Investment vs Energy Output is way out of proportion,...someday it may not matter.
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CrackSmokeRepublican

#5
November 27, 2010, 10:29:48 PM
Yeah, i just figured since they won some national awards and all, at least they have something "proven" in the real and actual. (which they don't have a video of??).  Most Swedish, Danish, German, Finn, Norwegian, etc. don't tend to give out National awards for "ideas" that much unless a they have some kind of working model.
Perhaps they are using a special hose of some sort?  Kind of like a ballast that reduces friction for water but not air.. dunno?
After the Revolution of 1905, the Czar had prudently prepared for further outbreaks by transferring some $400 million in cash to the New York banks, Chase, National City, Guaranty Trust, J.P.Morgan Co., and Hanover Trust. In 1914, these same banks bought the controlling number of shares in the newly organized Federal Reserve Bank of New York, paying for the stock with the Czar\'s sequestered funds. In November 1917,  Red Guards drove a truck to the Imperial Bank and removed the Romanoff gold and jewels. The gold was later shipped directly to Kuhn, Loeb Co. in New York.-- Curse of Canaan

jai_mann

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November 28, 2010, 09:58:06 PM
It's a neat idea but pretty unnecessary. Storms could be bad news due to choppy weather. It's also another monopolized source of energy. If people want to extract energy from the environment, then all the work was done long ago by Tesla. We're moving through an invisible sea of aether at all times and it has already been demonstrated, and replicated, that we can tap this aether using high frequency currents in Tesla's patent 568,176. His patents on high frequency currents are there for those who are motivated and capable.Energy needs can easily be met for individuals and tiny network such that no one stands in between the consumer and the energy.  These energy plants would monopolize a shit load of resources. People would not be allowed any where near them. I imagine they could also use these things to set certain areas off limits to fishing, and then they would stake a claim in the best fishing areas, and then stop commercial fishing, thereby further reducing population access to food.

Don't think they wouldn't try it. Decentralization and dispersal of control over necessary things in our life is always a shift away from the parasites.

Panoptimist

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November 29, 2010, 01:34:46 PM
The Orthodox Nationalist [11/18/10] - Berdayev and Dostoevsky; Modernism and Materialism; The critique of the bourgeois [Must Listen]
"[W]ithin himself / The danger lies, yet lies within his power]PL[/i] Book IX, ln. 349-356.
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