ATHEISM: The Jewish Way of Subverting Western Fellowship

[Timothy_Fitzpatrick]

"Almost without exception, the intellectual leaders of Marxist atheism in Germany were Jews, among them being Erich Weinert, Felix Abraham, Dr. Levy-Lenz and others. At regular meetings, held in the presence of a notary public, members were requested to register their declaration of withdrawal from their church for a fee of 2 Marks. And this the fight for atheism was carried on. Between 1918 and 1933 the withdrawals from the German Evangelical Churches alone amounted to two- and-a-half million persons in Germany. The programme which these atheistic societies laid down in regard to sexual matters is amply charcterized in the following demands publicly expressed at meetings and distributed in leaflet form:

1) The complete abrogation of the paragraphs of the law dealing with the crime of abortion, and the right to have abortion procured free of charge in State Hospitals.

2) Non-interference with prostitution.

3) The abrogation of all bourgeois-capitalistic regulations in regard to marriage and divorce.

4) Official registration to be optional and the children to be educated by the community.

5) Abrogation of all penalties for sexual perversities and amnesty to be granted to all persons condemned as 'sexual criminals'.

"Truly a case of methodical insanity, which has for its aim the wilful destruction of the nations and their civilization and the substitute of barbarism as a fundamental principle of public life.

"Where are the men behind the scenes of this virulent world movement? Who are the inventors of all this madness? Who transplanted this ensemble into Russia and is today making the attempt to have it prevail in other countries? The Bolshevic International is in reality nothing less than a Jewish International."

Communism with the Mask Off by Joseph Goebbels.
http://www.calvin.edu/academic/cas/gpa/goeb58.htm


Is the pope Catholic? Richard Dawkins - Jewish.

His mother was Jean Mary Vyvyan Dawkins (nee Ladner).
http://www.biographybase.com/biograp...s_Richard.html

Ladner Name Meaning and History
Jewish (Ashkenazic): occupational name for a shopkeeper, from a
derivative of Laden 'shop'.
http://www.ancestry.com/facts/Ladner-civil-war.ashx

-Names ending in "-ner" (Asner, Lardner, etc.)
http://64.233.183.104/search?q=cache...n&ct=clnk&cd=3

According to Jewish law, a child born to a Jewish mother... is considered a Jew.
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/...m/whojew1.html


'Jewish lobby' model for atheist
JTA, Published: 10/02/2007

A renowned atheist cited the "Jewish lobby" as a model for his campaign to promote atheism in the United States.

Richard Dawkins said he wanted to gain the same kind of influence as the Jewish lobby, saying it "monopolizes" U.S. foreign policy.

"When you think about how fantastically successful the Jewish lobby has been, though, in fact, they are less numerous I am told -- religious Jews anyway -- than atheists and [yet they] more or less monopolize American foreign policy as far as many people can see," Dawkins, a British evolutionary biologist who advocates atheism, told the Guardian newspaper. "So if atheists could achieve a small fraction of that influence, the world would be a better place."

Dawkins, an Oxford professor who wrote the best-seller "The God Delusion," told the Guardian that he wants to organize American atheists to counter the influence of religious groups.

"I think some sort of political organization is what they need," he said.

http://64.233.183.104/search?q=cache...n&ct=clnk&cd=1


What are they up to?

"The Communists are against religion (Christianity), and they seek to destroy religion; yet, when we look deeper into the nature of Communism, we see that it is essentially nothing else than a religion (Judaism)." (A Program for the Jews and Humanity, Rabbi Harry Waton, p. 138).
__________

"The Jews welcome this revolution in the Christian world, and the Jews should show an example. It is not an accident that Judaism gave birth to Marxism, and it is not an accident that the Jews readily took up Marxism: all this was in perfect accord with the progress of Judaism and the Jews." (A Program for the Jews and Humanity, by Rabbi Harry Waton, p. 148). __________

http://wake-up-america.net/jews_and_...sm__part_1.htm


Kevin MacDonald's 'The Culture of Critique' Reviewed

"In The Culture of Critique, Kevin MacDonald advances a carefully researched but extremely controversial thesis: that certain 20th century intellectual movements – largely established and led by Jews – have changed European societies in fundamental ways and destroyed the confidence of Western man. He claims that these movements were designed, consciously or unconsciously, to advance Jewish interests even though they were presented to non-Jews as universalistic and even utopian. He concludes that the increasing dominance of these ideas has had profound political and social consequences that benefited Jews but caused great harm to gentile societies. This analysis, which he makes with considerable force, is an unusual indictment of a people generally thought to be more sinned against than sinning." {..] http://www.heretical.com/miscellx/culturec.html

http://www.prometheism.net/library/C...OfCritique.pdf
http://www.kevinmacdonald.net/books.htm

Amazon.com: The Culture of Critique: An Evolutionary Analysis of Jewish Involvement in Twentieth-Century Intellectual and Political Movements: Kevin MacDonald: Books

Jews, Jewish Plans, and Atheism

Part 1

Statistical studies show that atheism and/or non-religiousness has been rising in modern times. People who study history will note that atheism and non-religiousness have rarely been as widespread as they have been in the later 20th and early 21st Centuries.

The spread of atheism in the modern world is not merely a coincidental development due to scientific progress (by the way, the majority of scientists are actually theists and NOT atheists).

Those of us who know about the Jews' domination (and that should be almost all of us) of our media, economy, and political systems know that the Jewish elite are responsible for cultural change and distortion/destruction (such as the dominance of modern art and architecture, which was planned and carried out by Jews), and atheism is a part of this.

The atheist voices are purposely made far too easy to hear and propaganda gives the message that science and logic supports it. Of course, many average people who listen to these messages do not take the time to think deeply and therefore do not see beyond the superficial aspects of science. Deeper investigation reveals that science is neither as clear nor as accurate as the illusion of it that is presented.

Protocol 4 of The Protocols of the Elders of Zion declares:
"It is indispensable for us (Jews) to undermine all faith, to tear out of the mind of the Goyim (Gentiles) the very principle of God-head and the spirit, and to put in its place arithmetical calculations and material needs."
But of course, the Protocols are often assumed to be a forgery and could possibly be such (although they still lay out the very plans that have been observed being carried out over the decades). Because of that, it is important to note that there are numerous intellectual sources revealing that the Jews are behind cultural changes as well as the spread of atheism.

Professor Kevin MacDonald notes in his book Culture of Critique that Jews such as Freud and Frankfurt School Marxist intellectuals developed ideas and doctrines to criticize and ultimately eliminate religions, especially Christianity.

David Duke, in Jewish Supremacism, explains this same problem, concluding that "... the ultimate triumph of Jewish Supremacism would mean the destruction of all heritages, nationalities and religions other than their own."

Yet another work that explains Jewish cultural plans is Freemasonry and Judaism by Leon de Poncins.

Adolf Hitler observes the same thing in Mein Kampf:
"Of religion he (the Jew) makes a mockery. Morality and decency are described as antiquated prejudices and thus a systematic attack is made to undermine those last foundations on which the national being must rest if the nation is to struggle for its existence in this world."
And the Romanian hero Codreanu, in his book For My Legionaries, makes the same observation about Jewish strategies against Gentiles:
"They will try to break the spiritual ties of the Romanian to heaven, and to earth. To break our ties with heaven they will engage in widespread dissemination of atheistic theories in order to separate the Romanian people or at least some of the leaders from God; separating them from God and their dead they can destroy them, not by sword but by severing the roots of their spiritual life."
The list of sources goes on and on, it shouldn't be necessary to provide all of them, because the origin of widespread atheism is obvious. This fact alone should be enough to convince anyone that is concerned with saving our race that widespread atheism cannot possibly be a good thing for us.

Part 2

I need to explain here some facts about Jews that some people might not be aware of.

To begin, we should remember that Jews are not merely a religion. The Jews themselves view their people as a race-nation, not a religion. One can be an atheist Jew and still be counted as a Jew (for example, Marx and Lenin were both atheist but both are considered Jews by most Jews). Here are a few examples revealing that Jews identify themselves as racially separate people:

"Hitler was right in one thing. He calls the Jewish people a race and we are a race."
- Rabbi Stephen F. Wise

"If Israel had not come into existence after World War II then I am certain the Jewish race wouldn't have survived...I stand before you and say you must strengthen your commitment to Israel."
- Former Israeli Prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu

"We have to recognize that Jewish blood and the blood of a goy are not the same thing"
- Rabbi Yitzhak Ginsburg

It is notable that currently a large amount of the Jewish people is actually atheist (although they may still follow many of the rules and customs of Judaism, which is what the religion is largely made up of).

I will deal with the materialistic nature of Jews and their ideologies in a later section.

Sources: http://www.thephora.net/forum/showthread.php?t=45087
http://www.vnnforum.com/blog.php?b=375

[Yo Mama]

So because Richard Dawkins is half-Jewish that somehow means that the imaginary Jewish war god Yahweh actually exists and he's up in the sky watching us right now?

Interesting logic you have there, Timothy Fitzpatrick.   :lol:

[Timothy_Fitzpatrick]

So because Richard Dawkins is half-Jewish that somehow means that the imaginary Jewish war god Yahweh actually exists and he's up in the sky watching us right now?

Interesting logic you have there, Timothy Fitzpatrick.   :lol:

Hah. you are the one making a big deal about Brandon Dean's remote Jewishness, and now you are saying Hawkins Jewishness is no big deal. You, sir, are a hypocrite and have just outed yourself.

[Yo Mama]

Actually, there's no proof that Richard Dawkins is a Jew.  You haven't proven that his mother is Jewish.  "Ladner" can be a German and a Dutch surname.  Plus, his mother's name is Jean Mary Vyvyan.  Not very Jewish, I'm afraid.  And, on top of all that, Richard Dawkins was attacked by the Jewish media for saying that Jews control American foreign policy.  

LADNER name meaning and history
http://www.ancestry.com/facts/ladner-fa ... story.ashx

German: occupational name for a joiner who made Laden 'chests', 'wardrobes' (also 'armor'), from a derivative of Middle Low German, Middle High German lade 'chest', '(wooden) container'.
Jewish (Ashkenazic): occupational name for a shopkeeper, from a derivative of Laden 'shop'.

[ada]

They can't hide their destructive ways for their goal of world domination.Thats impossible and therefor they will get lost terribly.

Rabbi Sherwin T. Wine was the founder of the denomination known as Humanistic Judaism and the first humanistic temple in North America, the Birmingham Temple, in the suburbs of Detroit, Michigan. Rabbi Wine is the subject of the book A Life of Courage and the author of Judaism Beyond God, Celebration, Staying Sane in a Crazy World, and hundreds of articles on humanism, ethics, and religion. In 2003, he was honored as Humanist of the Year by the American Humanist Association, joining an illustrious group of prior recipients that includes Stephen Jay Gould, Betty Friedan, Carl Sagan, Richard Dawkins, Barbara Ehrenreich, and Margaret Sanger.

[Timothy_Fitzpatrick]

They can't hide their destructive ways for their goal of world domination.Thats impossible and therefor they will get lost terribly.

Rabbi Sherwin T. Wine was the founder of the denomination known as Humanistic Judaism and the first humanistic temple in North America, the Birmingham Temple, in the suburbs of Detroit, Michigan. Rabbi Wine is the subject of the book A Life of Courage and the author of Judaism Beyond God, Celebration, Staying Sane in a Crazy World, and hundreds of articles on humanism, ethics, and religion. In 2003, he was honored as Humanist of the Year by the American Humanist Association, joining an illustrious group of prior recipients that includes Stephen Jay Gould, Betty Friedan, Carl Sagan, Richard Dawkins, Barbara Ehrenreich, and Margaret Sanger.

Shhh! Linking Jews with atheistic humanism is strictly forbidden!

[Timothy_Fitzpatrick]

Why so many Jews are atheists
http://www.ynetnews.com/home/0,7340,L-3443,00.html
Real cause of overwhelming Jewish atheistic tendencies seems to be tragic ignorance of Judaism's most profound teachings and ideas
Published:    11.25.09, 08:40 / Israel Jewish Scene

Rabbi Levi Brackman   

It is indisputable that a disproportionate amount of secular Jews self identify as atheist or agnostics. The celebrated atheist Christopher Hitchens has suggested that this is because Jews carry an atheist gene. This is an interesting and arguably racist conclusion that I wholeheartedly disagree with. Though it does make me think that Hitchens the atheist with Jewish lineage and many of the great Jewish theists have much in common.
 
Now, it is undeniable, and Hitchens agrees, that Jews have traditionally been deeply analytical questioners. One has only to study the Talmud (the magnum opus on Jewish law canonized in the fifth century) to recognize this. In fact the entire genre of rabbinic literature is full of questions, arguments and intellectual query.
 
For thousands of years Jews have been taught to question and delve deeper to uncover the truth inherent in any discussion. This tradition lives on in the Jewish community despite the fact that many Jews do not study classical Jewish texts as intensely as they used to.
 
One might argue that the entire literature of Jewish mysticism, otherwise known as the Kabbalah, is based on a single existential question pertaining to the meaning of the famous biblical phrase, "Hear O' Israel the Lord our God the Lord in One" (Deuteronomy 6:4). The Jewish mystics wanted to understand what the Bible meant when it said that God is one. They question how one unified God was able to create a universe so fragmented. The question of why a God would care what humans do (or don't do) is a question that Jewish mystics prominently ask.
 
These are questions that atheists also ask. It is fair to say that most Jewish metaphysicians were skeptics at heart. They doubted the simplistic way of understanding the Bible. But their motives for asking these existential questions were different than those of the atheist. For the mystic intellectual inquiry brings a deeper appreciation and understanding of the truth inherent in the words of the Bible. The atheist, conversely, questions in order to disprove. The fundamental quest for truth, however, remains similar.
 
No atheist gene
In my view, many secular Jews become atheists because of a lack of Jewish knowledge rather than because of an atheist gene. Most contemporary Jews—if they are given a Jewish education—discontinue all formal Jewish education at around age thirteen. This is because synagogues make part-time religious school attendance a condition to having a synagogue based Bar or Bat Mitzvah. Thereafter, however, most young Jews discontinue any formal Jewish involvement or education.
 
Thus, most secular Jewish adults, at best, have a thirteen year olds concept of how Judaism perceives God. Based on this miniscule amount of formal Jewish education it is little wonder that secular Jews tend towards atheism. No one can expect naturally skeptical adults to continue believing in a sophomoric concept of God. Indeed the concept of God I believed in at age thirteen has little resemblance to what I believe in today after many years of study.
 
To be sure, belief in monotheism is not solely dependent on an in-depth knowledge of Jewish metaphysical teachings. But a sophisticated understanding of the uniquely Jewish concept of God is necessary if such a belief is to stand to the intense scrutiny of a deeply analytical and questioning mind. My experience tells me that most Jews—especially those who claim to atheists—lack such knowledge and the God they say they don't believe in I don't believe in either. It is difficult to take the claim of being an atheist seriously knowing that the individual has not studied the extensive literature on Jewish metaphysics.

Thus, the real cause of overwhelming Jewish atheistic tendencies seems to be a tragic ignorance of Judaism's most profound teachings and ideas and therefore a juvenile understanding of the Jewish idea of a monotheistic God. Undoubtedly, the concept of Jews carrying an "atheist gene" is a red herring that has little evidentiary basis. To ignore the evidence and choose instead to believe in an unevidenced and unprovable "atheist gene" sounds to me like the type of belief system the likes of Hitchens have themselves criticized within religion. How ironic.

[Timothy_Fitzpatrick]

National Socialism Against Atheism
By Norse Wolf

http://www.vnnforum.com/blog.php?bt=512

We know that many great figures in the white racialists & anti-Jewish movements such as David Lane, Ron McVan, George Lincoln Rockwell, William Simpson, Corneliu Codreanu, etc. opposed Atheism and supported religion, whether Christianity or otherwise.
Even Revilo Oliver (Atheist) was actually dismayed at the fact that non-religiousness/Atheism was increasing among Whites.
These people knew that spirituality is important to Aryans and their writings prove this.

Here I will specifically show that National Socialism, a movement which we racialists know to be great and important (whether or not we all belong to it), was also against Atheism. I'll deal with Hitler, the founder & leader, and Alfred Rosenberg, its greatest philosopher.


"It must be noted too that the attack on the dogmatic principles underlying ecclesiastical teaching increased steadily in violence. And yet this human world of ours would be inconceivable without the practical existence of a religious belief. The great masses of a nation are not composed of philosophers. For the masses of the people, especially faith is absolutely the only basis of a moral outlook on life. The various substitutes that have been offered have not shown any results that might warrant us in thinking that they might usefully replace the existing denominations. But if religious teaching and religious faith were once accepted by the broad masses as active forces in their lives, then the absolute authority of the doctrines of faith would be the foundation of all practical effort. There may be a few hundreds of thousands of superior men who can live wisely and intelligently without depending on the general standards that prevail in everyday life, but the millions of others cannot do so. Now the place which general custom fills in everyday life corresponds to that of general laws in the State and dogma in religion. The purely spiritual idea is of itself a changeable thing that may be subjected to endless interpretations. It is only through dogma that it is given a precise and concrete form without which it could not become a living faith. Otherwise the spiritual idea would never become anything more than a mere metaphysical concept, or rather a philosophical opinion. Accordingly the attack against dogma is comparable to an attack against the general laws on which the State is founded. And so this attack would finally lead to complete political anarchy if it were successful, just as the attack on religion would lead to a worthless religious nihilism.
The political leader should not estimate the worth of a religion by taking some of its shortcomings into account, but he should ask himself whether there be any practical substitute in a view which is demonstrably better. Until such a substitute be available only fools and criminals would think of abolishing the existing religion.
Undoubtedly no small amount of blame for the present unsatisfactory religious situation must be attributed to those who have encumbered the ideal of religion with purely material accessories and have thus given rise to an utterly futile conflict between religion and science. In this conflict victory will nearly always be on the side of science, even though after a bitter struggle, while religion will suffer heavily in the eyes of those who cannot penetrate beneath the mere superficial aspects of science.
But the greatest damage of all has come from the practice of debasing religion as a means that can be exploited to serve political interests, or rather commercial interests. The impudent and loud-mouthed liars who do this make their profession of faith before the whole world in stentorian tones so that all poor mortals may hear – not that they are ready to die for it if necessary but rather that they may live all the better. They are ready to sell their faith for any political quid pro quo. For ten parliamentary mandates they would ally themselves with the Marxists, who are the mortal foes of all religion. And for a seat in the Cabinet they would go the length of wedlock with the devil, if the latter had not still retained some traces of decency.
If religious life in pre-war Germany had a disagreeable savour for the mouths of many people this was because Christianity had been lowered to base uses by political parties that called themselves Christian and because of the shameful way in which they tried to identify the Catholic Faith with a political party.
This substitution was fatal. It procured some worthless parliamentary mandates for the party in question, but the Church suffered damage thereby.
The consequences of that situation had to be borne by the whole nation; for the laxity that resulted in religious life set in at a juncture when everything was beginning to lose hold and vacillate and the traditional foundations of custom and of morality were threatening to fall asunder."
- Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, Volume I: Chapter 10


"Jewry has always been a nation of a definite racial character and never differentiated merely by the fact of belonging to a certain religion. At a very early date, urged on by the desire to make their way in the world, the Jews began to cast about for a means whereby they might distract such attention as might prove inconvenient for them. What could be more effective and at the same time more above suspicion than to borrow and utilize the idea of the religious community? Here also everything is copied, or rather stolen; for the Jew could not possess any religious institution which had developed out of his own consciousness, seeing that he lacks every kind of idealism; which means that belief in a life beyond this terrestrial existence is foreign to him. In the Aryan mind no religion can ever be imagined unless it embodies the conviction that life in some form or other will continue after death. As a matter of fact, the Talmud is not a book that lays down principles according to which the individual should prepare for the life to come. It only furnishes rules for a practical and convenient life in this world.
The religious teaching of the Jews is principally a collection of instructions for maintaining the Jewish blood pure and for regulating intercourse between Jews and the rest of the world: that is to say, their relation with non-Jews. But the Jewish religious teaching is not concerned with moral problems. It is rather concerned with economic problems, and very petty ones at that. In regard to the moral value of the religious teaching of the Jews there exist and always have existed quite exhaustive studies (not from the Jewish side; for whatever the Jews have written on this question has naturally always been of a tendentious character) which show up the kind of religion that the Jews have in a light that makes it look very uncanny to the Aryan mind. The Jew himself is the best example of the kind of product which this religious training evolves. His life is of this world only and his mentality is as foreign to the true spirit of Christianity as his character was foreign to the great Founder of this new creed two thousand years ago. And the Founder of Christianity made no secret indeed of His estimation of the Jewish people. When He found it necessary He drove those enemies of the human race out of the Temple of God; because then, as always, they used religion as a means of advancing their commercial interests. But at that time Christ was nailed to the Cross for his attitude towards the Jews; whereas our modern Christians enter into party politics and when elections are being held they debase themselves to beg for Jewish votes. They even enter into political intrigues with the atheistic Jewish parties against the interests of their own Christian nation."
- Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, Volume I: Chapter 11


"That is why the Jew systematically endeavours to lower the racial quality of a people by permanently adulterating the blood of the individuals who make up that people.
In the field of politics he now begins to replace the idea of democracy by introducing the dictatorship of the proletariat. In the masses organized under the Marxist banners he has found a weapon which makes it possible for him to discard democracy, so as to subjugate and rule in a dictatorial fashion by the aid of brute force. He is systematically working in two ways to bring about this revolution. These ways are the economic and the political respectively.
Aided by international influences, he forms a ring of enemies around those nations which have proved themselves too sturdy for him in withstanding attacks from within.
...
Economically he brings about the destruction of the State by a systematic method of sabotaging social enterprises until these become so costly that they are taken out of the hands of the State and then submitted to the control of Jewish finance. Politically he works to withdraw from the State its means of susbsistence, inasmuch as he undermines the foundations of national resistance and defence, destroys the confidence which the people have in their Government, reviles the past and its history and drags everything national down into the gutter.
Culturally his activity consists in bowdlerizing art, literature and the theatre, holding the expressions of national sentiment up to scorn, overturning all concepts of the sublime and beautiful, the worthy and the good, finally dragging the people to the level of his own low mentality.
Of religion he makes a mockery. Morality and decency are described as antiquated prejudices and thus a systematic attack is made to undermine those last foundations on which the national being must rest if the nation is to struggle for its existence in this world."
- Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, Volume I: Chapter 11

From two of Hitler's speeches:

"And now Staatspräsident Bolz says that Christianity and the Catholic faith are threatened by us. And to that charge I can answer: In the first place it is Christians and not international atheists who now stand at the head of Germany. I do not merely talk of Christianity, no, I also profess that I will never ally myself with the parties which destroy Christianity. If many wish today to take threatened Christianity under their protection, where, I would ask, was Christianity for them in these fourteen years when they went arm in arm with atheism? No, never and at no time was greater internal damage done to Christianity than in these fourteen years when a party, theoretically Christian, sat with those who denied God in one and the same Government."
- Adolf Hitler (Stuttgart -- Speech of February 15, 1933)

"The Government, being resolved to undertake the political and moral purification of our public life, is creating and securing the conditions necessary for a really profound revival of religious life.
The advantages of a personal and political nature that might arise from compromising with atheistic organizations would not outweigh the consequences which would become apparent in the destruction of general moral basic values. The national Government regards the two Christian confessions as the weightiest factors for the maintenance of our nationality. It will respect the agreements concluded between it and the federal States. Their rights are not to be infringed. But the Government hopes and expects that the work on the national and moral regeneration of our nation which it has made its task will, on the other hand, be treated with the same respect...."
- Adolf Hitler (Berlin, Reichstag -- Speech of March 23, 1933)

Hitler's Table Talk is often used as a work to point out that Hitler is anti-Christian and supports science foremost. While the work is possibly not authentic, I will use it to further prove that Hitler is anti-Atheist.

From Hitler's Table Talk: 1941 – 1944 (first published 1952 by Weidenfeld & Nicolson Ltd, London and translated by Norman Cameron and R.H. Stevens):

"We do not want to educate anyone in atheism."

"An educated man retains the sense of the mysteries of nature and bows before the unknowable. An uneducated man, on the other hand, runs the risk of going over to atheism (which is a return to the state of the animal) as soon as he perceives that the State, in sheer opportunism, is making use of false ideas in the matter of religion, whilst in other fields it bases everything on pure science."

Alfred Rosenberg, in his masterful philosophical work, The Myth of the Twentieth Century (1930), writes the following concerning religion (from Book 3, Chapter 5: Church and School):

"A German peoples' church is today the longing of millions. The confirmation of this fact means that we must demand the profoundest responsibility from those who give expression to this longing. Today there has been enough loud talk. Indeed, there has been more than enough! We talk about the insufficiency of the form and of the content of our churches. The deep underlying roots of this feeling of dissatisfaction have been discussed in this work, whilst showing respect towards religious thought. This theology has been ennobled by the faith, life and death of many generations. But the truth demands the immediate admission that this new longing has nowhere yet appeared as vital action, as an allegory of life.

In no German region has a religious genius appeared. No one has come forth to reveal through his life a new religious type to replace the existing ones. This fact is decisive insofar as no German conscious of responsibility may direct a demand to leave the churches at those who still cling to them in faith. If one did so it could possibly make the masses uncertain and disintegrate them spiritually. Before we destroy what the people presently have, we must be prepared to offer a substitute.

The liberal epoch brought enormous desolation in the church domain. This was precipitated by its many pseudoscientific beliefs such as evolution. Religion as such seemed to be. These intellectual pygmies overlooked the fact that understanding and reason represent only one means of drawing up a world picture. Religion is fundamentally something else. Art is a third means of understanding. Science is a system. Religion relates to the will. Art is symbolic. Every domain has its own inner law. Science could only destroy the churches when the latter falsely risked entering the former's domain. This occurred in a thousand cases. Real science can never destroy real religion because the latter is only a symbol for organic values of will. If a religion is to be restructured, newly born, or replaced through another, then the supreme values must be overthrown or transvaluated.

The tragic thing about the spiritual history of the last hundred years is that the churches have made the liberal materialistic outlook their own. They then defended their position in the field of science instead of operating in their own sphere of values. And it is even more tragic that they had to do this since they were developed historically. They had proclaimed old testament tales to be true. The later materialistic legends were the fundamental constituent of their totality. Thus the Darwinian era was able to create enormous confusion. It is instructive to compare the initial representation of the link between rationalism and magic. Simultaneously, science and religion were to free the way for occult sects: theosophy, anthroposophy, and a large number of other secret doctrines and charlatan hoaxes. A frightful confusion of spirit, for which dogmatism and liberalism bear the same guilt, is the sign of the times. Even under the rule of the Christian Social party in Austria, over 200,000 persons in Vienna alone have left the catholic church in the course of not less than ten years. These conversions came under the influence of new religious values, but as a consequence of a Marxist, egocentric activity which destroyed communal values which were directed against a still rigid, coercive, materialistic dogma.

Between the mass hosts of Marxist chaos and the faithful of the churches, millions wander around upon false paths. These people are completely destroyed inwardly. They have been delivered up to confusing doctrines and false prophets who seek only personal gain. In the large, however, they were driven by a powerful longing for new values and new forms.
It must be stated over and again that we must have a new genius who will reveal the new Myth to us. That saviour has still not been granted to us. This recognition still does not remove us from the duty of performing those preliminary works which have always had to be done when a new vital feeling struggles for expression, producing spiritual tensions. Soon the time will come for the great man who will teach and live what, hitherto, millions have only been able to stammer.

As the introduction to this work says, our message is not directed at the present day generation who still believe in the church. We will not hinder them from pursuing their established, chosen course of life. It is directed at all those who have already broken inwardly with church belief, but have still not found their way to another Myth. These persons must at least be snatched away from despairing nihilism through a revitalisation, through a new feeling of belonging. We seek the rebirth of very old yet eternally young values. It will be the task of a later genius to elevate to real forms of religion. Presently, many can search for probable representations. This is the duty of each individual today. Every individual must search since religious societies without religious geniuses only grow rigid. They turn into ordinary associations and small sects, which have no lasting influence over others. To occupy oneself with religion is therefore not a matter of any particular existing ethical, social or political association. Conversely, these can not be made responsible for the personal religious creed of their members.

From the newly blossoming nationalist Myth grow spiritual powers in all directions. Each of these organisations can only be guided by great personalities. It is naturally possible that one of them embodies a concentration of many powers of will. However, such a claim should be raised only by a completely great man devoid of any fault in character and soul.
Thus we wait for the poet of the world war, for the great dramatist of our life, for the great architects and sculptors. Thus we struggle for the Leader of the new Reich. We try to outline the limits of will which apply to the coming German folkish church. Its essential character seems to be clearly outlined even today. On the one side, we reject the materialistic magical which, as revealed by liberalism, was so closely linked with church dogmatism. On the other we must cultivate the values of honour, pride, inward freedom, aristocracy of soul, and faith in the indestructibility of the soul of man."

[Yo Mama]

Well, maybe if Christians worshiped some kind of European deity, it might be okay.  But Christians worship the genocidal Jewish war god Yahweh.  That's not okay.

Christians are Jew Whores
http://christians-are-jew-whores.blogspot.com/

 :up:

[Yo Mama]

What Exactly is Faith?

http://christians-are-jew-whores.blogsp ... faith.html

What exactly does it mean when someone is in a state of faith?  Faith is the state of believing.  My friend Bjorn often tells me that faith is the state of not knowing.  That is a great insight.

Believing means not knowing, for if you know something you don't have to believe it.  For instance most people know that 2 + 2 = 4.  You don't have to believe since everyone already knows it based on the study of mathematics.  When it comes to god, no one knows if god is real so those who say they know it are in a state of faith.  If I don't have proof of god neither do you.  If you say you do you are a poser as Bill Maher in the movie Religulous says perfectly:  

"And anyone who tells you they know, they just know what happens when you die, I promise you, you don't. How can I be so sure? Because I don't know, and you do not possess mental powers that I do not."

Thus we might conclude from the logic thus far that if something is not generally known then you must believe in it, so long as you have no evidence to back up your faith. Simplifying this logic, a belief is something that cannot be proven.  Once you prove something it is no longer and article of faith, it then becomes fact.

Christianity, like all religions, have never been proven;  that is why Christianity has never become science.  It is unlikely that Christianity will ever be proven because it is a religious memeplex, a collection of unproven memes.



What are memes and memeplexes? A meme is a term referring to a unit of cultural information transferable from one mind to another.  A memeplex is a set of related memes, a religious memeplex are a set of related but unproven religious memes that strengthen one another.  For instance, in the Christian memeplex god is omnipotent and omniscient, yet the most smartest and most powerful being in the Universe can not be seen with the naked eye because god is also invisible.

In science every meme must be proven and reproducible, in religion no meme ever has to be proven.  Religion constantly creates new unproven memes to "prove" or reinforce older memes that do not face up to logical reasoning.  For instance, say a bunch of argumentative cardinals at the Vatican can't agree on what happens to infants that happen to die before being baptized yet have committed no sin, do they go heaven or hell?  To heal the schism a new meme, purgatory, is invented.  Purgatory is a place between heaven and hell, a solution meme to a bad memeplex.  This doesn't mean purgatory is real, it is only a new meme used to reinforce the older memes.  If the priests were actually honest and bright, they might have used the schism as proof that the earlier memes were false, but that would mean they would have to get real jobs.  Never mind that, belief in Purgatory is mandatory for faithful Catholics.

Christians like to pretend their faith is a strength, but it is their greatest weakness in proving their religion.  Not one of the Bible memes used to build Christianity have ever been proven, thus even if some are proven correct it is likely the vast majority of memes will stay unproven.  Thus based on probability alone, Christianity, a memeplex of greater than a thousand memes, will likely have a greater chance than 99.99% of staying false.  In other words Christianity has less than .01% chance of being true, rounded off to the nearest decimal it has zero chance of ever being proved correct.

But believers insist what they believe is true.  When questioned, most Christians use circular logic to defend their faith.  Circular logic is faulty logic and not valid, often Christians say the Bible is true based on the claim that the Bible says its true. They are unable to find a logic proof to validate their faith scientifically because of the very nature of how their faith was constructed.  Unproved meme one added to unproven meme two and so on makes for an unprovable system of thought.

All faiths are constructed this way, they are complex, require study and memorization and have remained unproven even with huge efforts within archeology to prove them correct.  For instance, many recent digs have shown that Biblical historical events were completely fabricated.  If the Hebrew tribe lost the battle the Rabbis could respin the event into a moral lesson from god or change the outcome to a victory.  What is true in religion is true if the propagandist says its true.  Such methodology is now being used with the Holocaust, legal enforcement of a memeplex that is not holding up to scientific inquiry.  As many commentators have noted, the Holocaust is a new religion used to extort money from the Western world.



Circular reasoning means your belief is based on faulty reasoning and thus has a high probability to be wrong.



Humans are often wrong about their beliefs, even in visible natural phenomenon like the shape of the earth or the trajectory of the planets.  Everyone believed in something now proven wrong.  What chance do religions have when the faith based memes were constructed from the unseen?

So what evidence do Christians have for the existence of Jesus?  None!  They have absolutely no historical proof for the existence in the miracle man who could walk on water and raise himself from the dead.  If such a man really existed you would think that at least one rabbi, scholar, scribe, historian, politician would have at least made a footnote.

How do you like that?  People base their entire lives on something with no proof.  Politicians and their masters love that, if people can be motivated without proof then the government can stage 9112001, say Muslims did it, then send millions to their deaths.

How do they get away with it?  Faith.  They insist you believe that they have the evidence of Saddam's nukes when in fact they can offer no proof.  If they had proof why would they fake it?  The government say Muslims did 911 except there is absolutely no proof of any Muslim being involved in 911.   Muslims are being carpet bombed based on your faith.

Faith as a political weapon works on America because so much of America exists in a state of religious faith.  America is gullible primarily because of Christianity, faithful Christians are easily duped into wars. I often hear from my Christian friends that the President wouldn't of been involved in 911 based on their religious indoctrination and public school brainwashing belief in the credibility of the President.

Facts don't matter to the faithful and that is why we are fucked.

Why is tax free status bestowed upon religion?  Because the politicians are investing in a faithful and thus gullible public.

[Michael K.]

Dear Yo Mama,

First, one of the problems with your general argument is that it attempts to describe Christianity from the perspective of one who doesn't really understand it.  Granted, the verbal formulas you use to attack Christianity are based on a form of logic.  But all logic starts with an axiom, and a flawed axiom is a basis for a fallacious argument.  Let's take this example:

Well, maybe if Christians worshiped some kind of European deity, it might be okay. But Christians worship the genocidal Jewish war god Yahweh. That's not okay.

I would have to agree with you if all Christians were really in the thrall of some racist Semitic thunder god, but since that reasoning is based on a false presumption, I do not agree.  Now, you may be able to show me some called Christians who DO worship this god-concept, but since there is no law against calling one's self Christian (just yet) there is no reliable way to generalize what one cult believes pertains to the whole.

Christians worship Jesus Christ, and he is not a genocidal Jewish war God, just look at what the New Testament has to say.  Even the Old Testament is not all about a genocidal war god, but that does not rule out the Jews interpreting it that way.  Yet even if it is true that the Jews have an idolatrous worship of a false, racist god they call YWHW, or Tetragrammaton, it does not mean that the Old Testament is really all about this god, either.

All in all, you start with incorrect presumptions, let's just say for no other reason than that's how it seems to you to be true, and you get false conclusions which are of little scholarly significance, but more resemble the type of things people rant about on blogs, or write epithets about on bathroom walls.  Which is all too bad, since you clearly want to make a difference of some sort.

Here's another one:



It seems superficially clever and ever reasonable, but it only represents the spiritual bankruptcy of Protestant theology, which (having rejected the Church through the influence of Jews) is a sterile and dead end.  In actuality, the Church existed before the Bible, and has existed all along in an unbroken succession of transmitters of the primal faith.  The Bible is secondary to the active presence of the Holy Spirit, without which the Bible becomes a plaything for fools to justify their own sins.  So whether or not you know it, you are only refuting Protestant heresy, which has already been refuted by the Church.

There isn't enough time or space on this blog to tell you what Christianity is, but I suggest that you study the actual Christianity of the Apostles, Eastern Orthodox Christianity, and start your arguments with the actual facts.  Even if you disagree, you can't do better than to know the historical reality underlying all claims to Christianity.  Refuting heretical arguments is not refuting what the Apostles believed and taught.  You are missing the mark because you have not studied the target.

[Yo Mama]

Michael K., I'm going to answer you by posting something that was written by Alex Linder today in a thread on VNN forum.  It's very appropriate:

Every christ crank thinks it's the real christian, and all christ cultists believe there's some 'real' christ-insanity separable from the 1001 manifestations. There is not. The whole thing is a stupid, counter-factual, ridiculous cult for dogs on two feet.

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http://vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=128852

 8-)

[Yo Mama]

Christians worship Jesus Christ, and he is not a genocidal Jewish war God, just look at what the New Testament has to say.

Wrong.  Jesus Christ and Yahweh are the same entity:

I and the Father are one.
- Rabbi Jesus, John 10:30


And I agree with you that we should "look at what the New Testament has to say."  In fact, I think we should look at the words of Jesus Christ himself:

Brother will betray brother to death, and a father his child; children will rebel against their parents and have them put to death.
- Rabbi Jesus, Matthew 10:21

Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword.
- Rabbi Jesus, Matthew 10:34

For I have come to turn a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law
- Rabbi Jesus, Matthew 10:35

Do you think I came to bring peace on earth? No, I tell you, but division.
- Rabbi Jesus, Luke 12:51

From now on there will be five in one family divided against each other, three against two and two against three.
- Rabbi Jesus, Luke 12:52

The father shall be divided against the son, and the son against the father; the mother against the daughter, and the daughter against the mother; the mother in law against her daughter in law, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
- Rabbi Jesus, Luke 12:53

 :lolno:

[ada]

Jesus Christ:
All who hate Me love death.

[ada]

Jesaja 5:20-21
Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!
Woe unto them that are wise in their own eyes, and prudent in their own sight!

[ada]

John 10:
24   Then came the Jews round about him, and said unto him, How long dost thou make us to doubt? If thou be the Christ, tell us plainly.
25   Jesus answered them, I told you, and ye believed not: the works that I do in my Father's name, they bear witness of me.
26   But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you.
27   My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
28   And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any [man] pluck them out of my hand.
29   My Father, which gave [them] me, is greater than all; and no [man] is able to pluck [them] out of my Father's hand.
30   I and [my] Father are one.
31   Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him.
32   Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me?
33   The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.
34   Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?
35   If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken;
36   Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?
37   If I do not the works of my Father, believe me not.
38   But if I do, though ye believe not me, believe the works: that ye may know, and believe, that the Father [is] in me, and I in him.
39   Therefore they sought again to take him: but he escaped out of their hand,

[ada]

John 8:
39   They answered and said unto him, Abraham is our father. Jesus saith unto them, If ye were Abraham's children, ye would do the works of Abraham.
40   But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God: this did not Abraham.
41   Ye do the deeds of your father. Then said they to him, We be not born of fornication; we have one Father, [even] God.
42   Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me.
43   Why do ye not understand my speech? [even] because ye cannot hear my word.
44   Ye are of [your] father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
45   And because I tell [you] the truth, ye believe me not.
46   Which of you convinceth me of sin? And if I say the truth, why do ye not believe me?
47   He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear [them] not, because ye are not of God.
48   Then answered the Jews, and said unto him, Say we not well that thou art a Samaritan, and hast a devil?
49   Jesus answered, I have not a devil; but I honour my Father, and ye do dishonour me.
50   And I seek not mine own glory: there is one that seeketh and judgeth.
51   Verily, verily, I say unto you, If a man keep my saying, he shall never see death.
52   Then said the Jews unto him, Now we know that thou hast a devil. Abraham is dead, and the prophets; and thou sayest, If a man keep my saying, he shall never taste of death.
53   Art thou greater than our father Abraham, which is dead? and the prophets are dead: whom makest thou thyself?
54   Jesus answered, If I honour myself, my honour is nothing: it is my Father that honoureth me; of whom ye say, that he is your God:
55   Yet ye have not known him; but I know him: and if I should say, I know him not, I shall be a liar like unto you: but I know him, and keep his saying.
56   Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw [it], and was glad.
57   Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham?
58   Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.
59   Then took they up stones to cast at him: but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by.

[ada]

[youtube:3976ud7x]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkBD20edOco[/youtube]3976ud7x]

5 things that cannot be scientifically evidenced, but we're all rational to accept:

1. Logical and mathematical truths, science presupposes logic and math.
2. Metaphysical truths. Like the universe was created 5 minutes ago with the appearance of age.
3. Ethical beliefs and statements of value
4. Esthetic judgments. Beautiful, like the good, cannot be scientifically proven
5. Science ITSELF cannot be justified by the scientific method. Its also permeated with unprovable assumptions.

[ada]

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[Yo Mama]

Christianity, a Totalitarian Jewish Cult

Anyone who loves his father or mother more than me is not worthy of me; anyone who loves his son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.
- Rabbi Jesus, Matthew 10:37

If anyone comes to me and does not hate his father and mother, his wife and children, his brothers and sisters - yes, even his own life - he cannot be my disciple.
- Rabbi Jesus, Luke 14:26

In the same way, any of you who does not give up everything he has cannot be my disciple.
- Rabbi Jesus, Luke 14:33

The man who loves his life will lose it, while the man who hates his life in this world will keep it for eternal life.
- Rabbi Jesus, John 12:25

Many deceivers, who do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh, have gone out into the world. Any such person is the deceiver and the antichrist.
- Rabbi Saul, 1 John 1:7

Who is the liar? It is the man who denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a man is the antichrist - he denies the Father and the Son.
- Rabbi Saul, 1 John 2:22

but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming and even now is already in the world.
- Rabbi Saul, 1 John 4:3

If anyone does not love the Lord - a curse be on him. Come, O Lord!
- Rabbi Saul, 1 Corinthians 16:22

We demolish arguments and every pretension that sets itself up against the knowledge of God, and we take captive every thought to make it obedient to Christ.
- Rabbi Saul, 2 Corinthians 10:5

[Timothy_Fitzpatrick]

Interesting video, Ada. Thanks. Good to see something logical for a change.