TiU Radio 15th Aril 2010 - guest New York Post Michael Gray

[Ognir]

TiU Radio
www.theinfounderground.com
Hosted by Ognir
Recorded 15th April 2010

Guest Michael Gray
Deputy Sunday Business Editor
New York Post
http://theinfounderground.com/archives/ ... l.Gray.mp3
and lots more

PS Micheal was on a cell phone so quality not 100%

[LordLindsey]

People, you need to keep the momentum going with this as "ONE" of the weakest links in this treason against humanity has been exposed in large part thanks to the work of Mr. Michael Gray and the personal sacrifice of Mr. Maguire, the JP Morgan whistleblower; these gentlemen need ALL OF OUR SUPPORT and this interview needs to go "viral" across the world so that those people in finance know the score as we know it.

God bless you, Mr. Michael Gray, and know that you are not alone in your efforts, and "WE" know that we are not alone in our efforts as it relates to the mainstream media.

LINDSEY

[LordLindsey]

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/s ... clnk&gl=us

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/business/j ... 5KdevIsQ7N

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/business/i ... bCMbFFzotL

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/business/m ... z0knioYd8m

Would someone PLEASE post these complete articles here for posterity and ease-of-access?

Thank you.

LINDSEY

[mgt23]

added to TIUTV.......listening now

[superzebra]

micheal gray is zionist...he does not want to say word about israel.
he ignores every questions..about israel....
shame on you micheal...just shame for all Americans.

are the Americans need mind transplant???(rense.com and ufo crap)....

[LordLindsey]

Zebra, your negativity is DULY-noted; when "YOU" can find an assistant editor of a major newspaper to come-on TIU and say the news-worthy things that Mr. Gray is saying about these Zionist criminals doing this shit to the world, then "YOU" have the right to criticize him.

In fact, why don't you try to find someone who is in a similar position as Mr. Gray in Occupied-Palestine or Israel-proper to say the things that this man said in Ognir's interview and let Ognir interview him/her!?   :lolno:

Didn't think so...

LINDSEY

[Rockclimber]

micheal gray is zionist...he does not want to say word about israel.
he ignores every questions..about israel....
shame on you micheal...just shame for all Americans.

are the Americans need mind transplant???(rense.com and ufo crap)....

Think of it this way: Do you think for a second that he didn't research this site an Ognir before doing this interview?

Really think about that.

Kudos to Michael Gray for putting himself out there.

[LordLindsey]

http://www.iamthewitness.com/audio/Bill ... 4-2010.mp3

This is the interview that was in-part responsible for Mr. Gray's latest article dealing with the manipulation of gold and silver; this is a must-listen interview for anyone wanting to know WHY and HOW this is happening and what it means for the world economy at-large.

LINDSEY

[LordLindsey]

The Military KNOWS that Israel Did 911...

viewtopic.php?f=35&t=10233

2.3 Trillion Dollars Missing from the Pentagon While Rabbi Dov Zakheim Was the Comptroller...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eootfzAhAoU

The Missing TRILLIONS Announced by Donald Rumsfeld on 09-10-01, One Day Before the 9-11 Attacks...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xU4GdHLU ... re=related

Israel Did 911, All the Proof in the World...

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=5367

LINDSEY

[LordLindsey]

Mr. Michael Gray was a guest on Rick Adams' show for the first hour, but the conversation was continued into the second hour, so would someone please post both hours of this very important show?  This was an absolutely terrific show and the momentum is continuing just as I had hoped it would!

LINDSEY

[LordLindsey]

http://www.scribd.com/doc/29364741/Tungsten-Genesis

The "tungsten-gold" story and its beginnings.

LINDSEY

[LordLindsey]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/mobile/business/8625931.stm

"Goldman Sachs, the Wall Street powerhouse, has been accused of defrauding investors by America's financial regulator.

The Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) alleges that Goldman failed to disclose conflicts of interest.

The claims concern Goldman's marketing of sub-prime mortgage investments just as the US housing market faltered.

Goldman rejected the SEC's allegations, saying that it would "vigorously" defend its reputation.

News that the SEC was pressing civil fraud charges against Goldman and one of its London-based vice presidents, Fabrice Tourre, sent shares in the investment bank tumbling 12%.

The SEC says Goldman failed to disclose "vital information" that one of its clients, Paulson & Co, helped choose which securities were packaged into the mortgage portfolio.

These securities were sold to investors in 2007.

But Goldman did not disclose that Paulson, one of the world's largest hedge funds, had bet that the value of the securities would fall."

It looks like Mr. Gray was well-ahead of the curve...

LINDSEY

NB:  This is giving the impetus to try to make "the people" believe that the government is going to make everything better:  http://www.yahoo.com/_ylt=ArgwsuHZ5bMc0 ... mpanyfraud

[Ahmed]

Superzebra makes a fair point. But it was as good an interview as anyone could hope to get from Mr Gray, who obviously wouldn't be drawn on certain issues, though the Ogster tried his best IMO: "North Koreans"

Superzebra is, by all accounts, on the frontline 24/7 since he or she lives in Palestine (there is no "Israel proper"). Thus I have the utmost respect for anyone who has to deal with Zionist Jews up close and can understand the frustration at those who don't engage with the wider issue of Zionism directly. Even DBS loses his cool with people who don't name names.

Michael Gray is 80% of the way there and I applaud his recent efforts to highlight this particualr scandal, though I'd like to know how he thinks he can work around the fact that the NY Post is a Zionist owned outlet. Otherwise, good work as usual.

[LordLindsey]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pD8viQ_DhS4

This is the video that exposed the FINANCIAL ATTACK that occurred on Thursday, September 11, 2008; the funny thing is that it occurred from about 8 AM until 11 AM, which is ALMOST EXACTLY THE SAME TIME THAT THE ATTACKS OCCURRED ON 9-11, seven years previously!

LINDSEY

NB:  The most important part of this video begins at 02:19.

[LordLindsey]

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid= ... nzv8MC0s7k

This article goes into detail about specifically what Goldman Sachs did that was illegal; it is regarding CDO's.

LINDSEY

[skyline]

@superzebra

micheal gray is zionist...he does not want to say word about israel.(snip)

Just finished listening to the interview after hearing Lindsey mention it on both the Mike Piper and Rick Adams programs and would have to say I think you're being a little harsh with Mr. Gray. He stated he had visited this site and would suspect he would assume his audience would be aware of the more nuanced details without having to go balls out, fall on his sword adding little if anything to the topic at hand- Gold/Silver manipulation. DBS, which he mentioned, covers that aspect quite well.

As a practical matter, if people haven't figured out what's what and who's who by now, it's a little late to spoon feed them. Hell, most of them don't even know there is a gold market, let alone how it works, or at least how it is supposed to work.  What's a Goldman Sachs? Do you know how hard it is to even discuss anything meaningful with most people today? I try everyday, every single day, and it seems no matter how gingerly I approach a topic of import, it is met with state-sanctioned opinions and propaganda. I swear, sometimes, I think I'm talking to third graders. It's like listening to rap music or something, gives me a headache; so, now, I don't discuss- I just ask- got food?

I'm not just talking about your man-on-the-street here. I know fund managers, currency traders, ex-pats, that don't even want to go near this stuff. The working man, who has been getting a beat down all his life, is much more receptive, at least willing to listen, talk about it once in awhile.

I'm not sure how they do things in the EU, but I think Ognir should be aware that here in the States as the underclass begins to swell, reaches critical mass, the government is not going to feed them. Think Katrina. They don't have the supplies even if they wanted to. There used to be something like 70+lbs of stored food surplus per person, now it is around 7 lbs comprised of mostly processed (junk) food.

[VoltaXebec]

Well said skyline.

[FlierFlyLilly]

But Did Ognir seize the opportunity to bring up the one subject everybody wants to avoid?
http://www.livevideo.com/video/socialse ... d-out.aspx

Why didn't Ognir ask why NewsCorp / FOX had that video deleted from their archive and if they would explain it for us?
Fox and NY Post are owned by the same parent company......NewsCorp.

[LordLindsey]

OH, SHIT!!!  Here comes the dis-information meant to distract from the message!

   :think:  :wtf:

 :down:

I have two words for this chicanery:

EPIC FAIL.

LINDSEY

[LordLindsey]

This comes from another Topic, but is very important for people to see; it is from AbdulMaria.

LINDSEY

"Since the news about fraud in the metals markets broke with the Andrew Maguire interview on about March 23, I have been watching the US government and Zio-Bankers attempts to "put the genie back in the bottle." Which they have been working very hard to do.

For example, on March 31, 2010, somebody shut down GoldisMoney.info. GIM was the largest independent precious metal trader websites. GIM was home to a very anti-Zio-banker group, including many people who were outspoken anti-Zionists - people who were not afraid to criticize specifically Jewish criminals.

Well, that community, where it was safe to talk about fraud in the $5.4 Trillion LBMA London gold markets, and to talk about fraud on the COMEX (which GIM'ers typically referred to as Crimex) - that community disappeared on March 31.

I have no doubt that it was shut down because of the nature of the discussions there. I was an active member. It was the kind of place where you could get a chuckle by making a reference to the Lubavitchers, and generally I had the feeling I was dealing with real people, not the Israeli web troll squad.

Well, the government has continued trying to put the genie back in the bottle. One of their primary agents for this is Jim Puplava. He came down hard on the Saturday April 10 broadcast, and the attempt to smooth everything over continues this week. Jim is a career investor & investment adviser. One of his own anecdotes was about putting away a ton of silver back when gold downticked from $20 to $9 in 2008 (he got it for close to the low price).

At about 5:30 in today's 2nd hour of the April 17 broadcast, Puplava (Disinfo Specialist #1) takes a call from somebody who is obviously very well-informed (Disinfo Specialist #2) and insists that Jim counter the "terrible rumors" that have been circulating the last few weeks. (Reference URL's below). It's in this part of the webcast -
http://www.netcastdaily.com/broadcast/f ... 0417-2.mp3


Well, GIM was one of my favorite websites. The shutdown of that was pretty much like having the government come into my living room and say, "we're killing the community that you like". Can you imagine the government shutting down TIU - but with 100 times more members ?

It's a very interesting battle to watch. As Andrew Maguire points out, a deep-pocketed investor who is willing to short the US dollar and go long gold can invest $trillions and come out on top, betting against the short positions of JPMorgan, HSBC, and the US government. In the process bankrupting JPMorgan and HSBC - 2 of the primary instruments of the Rothschild's et al.

Obviously Israel enters into this. We are talking about a government run by and for Zionist bankers. They just shut down a website that had a very active "Israel did 9-11" discussion, in addition to the precious metal trader knowledge.

In general the Zio-bankers want to prop up the fiat currency (the US $) that enables their worldwide empire. One of the ways they do this is by manipulating metals markets to reduce the price of gold, as denominated in US $. The details of that manipulation were described by a London metal trader & whistleblower in a webcast interview that first aired about March 23, 2010. The GIM website was shut down 8 days later. 3 weeks later, Jim Puplava is working very hard and providing some very informative interviews about precious metals trading and investing, without ever confronting the specific charges of Harvey and Lenny Organ and Andrew Maguire and Bill Murphy and Daryl and Mohammed - each of whom has an insight that rivals Jim Puplava's.

In the meantime, Puplava has substantiated the tungsten-gold story, literally verifying one part of the fraud, while working to re-assure a "nervous investing public" that their paper gold investments are "safe".

Anyway, it's an interesting piece of history to watch.


References ~

interview with Andrew Maguire, metals trader & whistleblower

http://kingworldnews.com/kingworldnews/ ... 3A2010.mp3

right click, "save as" or "save target as", to save the *.mp3.

/ more on the CFTC (Commodity Futures Trading Commission) Hearings last week.
http://kingworldnews.com/kingworldnews/ ... 3A2010.mp3


Commentary @ Zero-hedge
http://www.zerohedge.com/article/former ... gold-ponzi

http://www.zerohedge.com/article/whistl ... ion-scheme


More interview, with GATA Founder Bill Murphy
http://www.iamthewitness.com/audio/Bill ... 4-2010.mp3


follow-up interviews

Harvey & Lenny Organ & Adrian Douglas
http://kingworldnews.com/kingworldnews/ ... 3A2010.mp3

John Williams on Unemployment & Inflation
http://kingworldnews.com/kingworldnews/ ... 3A2010.mp3


article, "Hong Kong Pulls All Gold Reserves From Depositories In London"
http://www.kingworldnews.com/kingworldn ... liver.html

customers sue Morgan Stanley for charging storage fees for Paper Gold
http://www.kingworldnews.com/kingworldn ... ansal.html


Financial Sense article on Tungsten Gold
http://www.financialsense.com/fsu/edito ... /1118.html"

[CrackSmokeRepublican]

Well said skyline.

I agree with VoltaXebec... you are in the club skyline...  

[MikeWB]

GREAT interview! Michael Gray's awesome!!!

But Did Ognir seize the opportunity to bring up the one subject everybody wants to avoid?
http://www.livevideo.com/video/socialse ... d-out.aspx

Why didn't Ognir ask why NewsCorp / FOX had that video deleted from their archive and if they would explain it for us?
Fox and NY Post are owned by the same parent company......NewsCorp.

Seriously, GTFO! That video doesn't even show a plane cone but mass ejected by the impact. You're now warned for trying to derail a thread with nonsense.

[superzebra]

Zebra, your negativity is DULY-noted; when "YOU" can find an assistant editor of a major newspaper to come-on TIU and say the news-worthy things that Mr. Gray is saying about these Zionist criminals doing this shit to the world, then "YOU" have the right to criticize him.

In fact, why don't you try to find someone who is in a similar position as Mr. Gray in Occupied-Palestine or Israel-proper to say the things that this man said in Ognir's interview and let Ognir interview him/her!?  

Didn't think so...

LINDSEY

for start i say like this:

1.87% of the arab world beleive 9/11 was mossad op.
100% of the palestnian believe it.(include israel and occupied west bank and gaza).

2.in the west bank they teach the protocols of zion in school and church and mousqe.
in gaza as well, in israel we know since 1948 and it is pass by generation.


http://www.palwatch.org/STORAGE/OpEd/Protocols_of_the_Elders.pdf
3.every arab inside israel who dare to open his mouth publicaly will be shut or expelled,see dr azmi bshara and many others
muhmud drweish.

4.i got no problom to go radio show and to speak,invite me.
5.there a lot of mainstream arab newspaper attacks the nwo.
6.american and eu media do not even mention the word zion.
in short i do not understand why you call me not proper....

[LordLindsey]

I was a bit harsh towards you, and for that I apologize; however, please understand that he said and HAS DONE all that he can and STILL KEEP HIS JOB where he can continue to SPEAK THE TRUTH THROUGH THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA.

Knowing that someone is on our side and KNOWS WHAT WE KNOW is enough for me at this point because the more that those WHO ARE SILENT WHILE KNOWING THE TRUTH hear others in their field doing what Mr. Gray is doing, THE MUCH GREATER THE CHANCE THAT THEY WILL HAVE THE COURAGE TO COME-OUT AND TELL THE TRUTH THEMSELVES.

LINDSEY

[Whaler]

Bombshell!-NY Post reporter exposes Wall Street Gold Manipulation-TIU Radio

[youtube:2loarjzz]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-ix_N9VFb8[/youtube]2loarjzz]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-ix_N9VFb8
This is the teaser...I am in the process of editing the entire interview. Should be up in a few hours.

[Whaler]

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[G-Loc]

top show Ognir, nice one!

[Free Truth]

I just wanted to say I thought he was a great guest.

Even though he did dance a little...

Do you know how hard it is to even discuss anything meaningful with most people today? I try everyday, every single day, and it seems no matter how gingerly I approach a topic of import, it is met with state-sanctioned opinions and propaganda. I swear, sometimes, I think I'm talking to third graders. It's like listening to rap music or something, gives me a headache; so, now, I don't discuss- I just ask- got food?

Oh, I know...

Talking about real issues with "normal" people is simply foreign to them.
You can see a change in the look in their eyes once you've started on a topic they know nothing about, don't understand and/or don't want to talk about.

They are made to stay like children psychologically .

[LordLindsey]

This deserves a listen, especially with everything that has happened since the interview.

LINDSEY