She Sold Her Soul to the Devil on EBay

Started by mgt23, July 17, 2012, 09:39:15 AM

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mgt23

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QuoteWoman attempts to sell her soul on ebay for $2000.

...........is seriously, seriously, seriously concerned at the state of commercial human mentality today.

Anonymous

She is smart, it is doubtful that a person has a soul and even if it was, a soul would not be something able to be transferable by a contract.

If anyone wants to buy my soul, PM me, I'll sell it to you for $2,000 as well.

Christians becoming upset by this really shows off their child like mentality and how they can not think clearly or logically.

mgt23

what happens if you consider one to have a soul, comprising the essence of oneself able to transcend the void? Do i happen to be a child like christian to believe that? why should you prostitute yourself and your character to prove someone else a fool?
  you sound like a jew...........

Anonymous

mgt23, there is no evidence at all to support any theory of humans having a soul that is eternal. I believe in the laws of nature and that through a very long, painful and struggling process of evolution and natural selection humans became the dominant species on the Earth today. Simply put the teachings of Christ contradict the laws of nature, and in the world of nature, any species which would follow the laws of Christ would be taken advantage and quickly go extinct.

THAT IS IT, welcome to the real world, most people reject the harsh truth and reality of life, instead prefer to accept a religion that psychologically shields them from the truth and prevents them from MANNING UP! That is exactly what the jews want, they know if they can indoctrinate people into Christianity, they are then incapable of devising any effective, permanent means of dealing with them.

mgt23, I am guessing you are one of those people who think that if anyone criticizes your belief system, they are a jew, how convenient for you.

mgt23

Quotemgt23, there is no evidence at all to support any theory of humans having a soul that is eternal.

.......oh really then why does science say we have a singularity at the start of the universe in the big bang. A point of which the laws of known physics break down and creation spread forth. Shall i discount this physics?

QuoteSimply put the teachings of Christ contradict the laws of nature, and in the world of nature, any species which would follow the laws of Christ would be taken advantage and quickly go extinct.
....this is why we look to martyrs as an example of self sacrifice.

QuoteTHAT IS IT, welcome to the real world, most people reject the harsh truth and reality of life, instead prefer to accept a religion that psychologically shields them from the truth and prevents them from MANNING UP! That is exactly what the jews want, they know if they can indoctrinate people into Christianity, they are then incapable of devising any effective, permanent means of dealing with them.
.......whilst true of those Zionist Christians it is not true of all Christians.

Quotemgt23, I am guessing you are one of those people who think that if anyone criticizes your belief system, they are a jew, how convenient for you.
......how convenient of you to totally miss my point. Even if i believed i didn't have a soul, i still wouldn't go on ebay prostituting my public self for $2000 or rip off some deranged satanist who wants to buy it giving them spiritual energy. This is spiritual/psychological warfare and your comment plays into their hands.

Anonymous

Quoteoh really then why does science say we have a singularity at the start of the universe in the big bang. A point of which the laws of known physics break down and creation spread forth. Shall i discount this physics?

I fail to see how that relates as evidence of humans having eternal souls.

Quotehow convenient of you to totally miss my point. Even if i believed i didn't have a soul, i still wouldn't go on ebay prostituting my public self for $2000 or rip off some deranged satanist who wants to buy it giving them spiritual energy. This is spiritual/psychological warfare and your comment plays into their hands

No I would not have the nerve to do it either, 1st I do not need to stoop so low to get money and 2nd it is just weird, but if anyone wants to do it I don't have a problem with them doing it. I don't know about the spiritual warfare, that is presupposing a dimension exists outside of ours which there is no evidence, but I agree if you go through with it, you may have some psychological issues unless you are stern in the mind.

Christopher Marlowe

Quotehttp://socyberty.com/philosophy/platos- ... -the-soul/
Plato's Theory of the Existence of the Soul
by therese in Philosophy, April 2, 2009

An exploration of philosophical theories concerning the soul.
The concept of the soul is one which has existed since the Ancient Greeks. The philosopher Plato was extremely far advanced in his philosophical ideas, as was his mentor, Socrates. Their theories were radical and thought provoking, moving away from the traditional world of the polytheistic Greek gods. Plato was monotheistic, believing in the highest principle, the Good. A major theory which he develops concerns the make-up of man. He maintained resolutely that human beings consisted of two distinct entities, body and soul. The body is completely physical and materialistic, being of this world. The soul which is infused at each birth into the body is immortal, and spiritual, and is our true self. The body is the embodiment of evil, as it is laden with worldly desires, and it entraps the soul, distracting them from reaching the truth of the World of the Forms. 
 
The soul is a key element in Greek philosophy. Plato made the observation that since our universe is mutable and imperfect; a place must also exist where immutability and perfection can be found in the Good and the Forms. This place is beyond the physical world, in a transcendent realm. This is where the eternal and unchanging forms exist, which are the original blueprints of every created entity in the physical realm. Souls originate and pre-exist in this World of the Forms, and absorb all possible knowledge that the afterlife can offer. However it is necessary that their knowledge of this world is cleansed from their memory before they are incarnated into a mortal, physical body.

Plato had definite ideas explored in Phaedrus on how the soul enters the body. It is for him an end of a journey, a journey which begins with the procession of winged charioteers being drawn by two horses (the souls of the gods and mortals) travelling to reach the absolute truth. The gods naturally effortlessly pass on through to this realm, while we mortals experience great difficulty. Those among us unable to glimpse the wonders of this realm in its full truth and glory lose strength in their wings and plunge unhappily earthwards, to be trapped into a body, forgetting what they had learnt. This body is the human body in the first incarnation, however if one is not sufficiently enlightened by the end of the physical body's life to be worthy enough to ascend to the World of the Forms, then the soul keeps reincarnating in various bodies until they finally reach the fullness of the truth. These can include animal form as well as human. 

Thus humans are in a state of ignorance of this perfect paradise, and the aim of the soul is to regain as much memory of this transcendent world as is possible throughout their time on earth. The soul merely forgets where it originated from. This previous knowledge is not lost forever; it is simply the question of remembering lost information. There are several ways we can help our souls to recollect this knowledge through reflection, word associations, reason and education. It is also necessary to grow in the likeness of these perfect forms. 
This theory of recollection is famously illustrated by an analogy in Plato's The Republic. Prisoners are shackled in a cave positioned to face the back of the cave. All their life they have only seen shadows cast on the wall via puppeteers and fire-light, to them this is reality. One of the prisoners manages to escape from the cave into the bright sunlight. He learns that this is the true world, and sees the full beauty of the real world. When he attempts to tell the others they threaten to kill him, they do not believe him.
Plato recorded his theories in the form of dialogues. His theory of recollection was discussed by the characters Socrates and Meno, in reference to an uneducated slave boy, whom Socrates has discovered has knowledge of geometry needed in order to answer Socrates' question. Socrates gets Meno to agree that there is only one possible explanation for the boy of being certain of his mathematical answer. Socrates argues that he could not have learnt it in this world; consequently he must have learnt it at another time when he was not a slave boy. The only logical explanation is that there is a part of him which has known a former life where he could have learnt this mathematical awareness. This is his soul, which retains knowledge of all former incarnations, and which can be trained to recall this knowledge.
Plato's theory of recollection did not include just the infusion and remembering of academic knowledge, but of morality as well. The existence of our conscience is further area of evidence of the soul's existence, for it is a vague memory of the truth once known and since forgotten. This was a natural development in Plato's thought; as humans have dormant knowledge of principles such as whole truthfulness, perfection etc, it followed logically that we must also have a dormant sense of morality, of right and wrong. This sense of morality is common to all; it just is present in everyone in varying degrees.
The credibility of this theory of the soul's existence is reliant on belief in the initial premises laid down by Plato. There must be an acknowledgement that there is a supernatural realm where all things exist in their true forms, the copies of which can be found on earth, where change, decay and destruction can be found. There must be recognition that there are varying levels of truth, but that the eternal truth is found beyond this world with the perfect completion of all the principles. This was a rational conclusion made by Plato as a result of the empirical evidence around him. He saw that the world is far from perfect, however we still have an innate knowledge of the concept of perfection, thus concluded that perfection must exist in another realm. There is a reason why we exist thus Plato formulated theories which gave an explanation. 
Plato's hypothesis of recollection as an argument proving the existence and immortality of the soul is an interesting attempt. It is a theory which Plato returns to several times in Meno, Phaedo and Phaedrus. It is an exploration equivalent to the chicken and the egg conundrum; which came first, the principles or the people? Did society form the principles, or did the principles precede the human race? Plato believed in the latter, for empirical study showed that principles such as justice, happiness, morality, beauty, goodness and equality are ideals accepted by society but which are also accepted to be lacking in completion. We can perceive the concept of perfect equality and justice, however it is readily accepted that this state can never be achieved. How therefore is it possible that we have an awareness of the perfect scenario? Plato concludes that there exists an eternal part in us which is connected to these eternal principles, thus we can have an innate knowledge of them. We may not remember how or why we have knowledge of perfection, but we know enough to realise that our world is not perfect. It must be admitted that there is an undeniable logical thread throughout this line of argument resulting in the existence of an eternal soul, our link to the World of principles and perfection. Plato's argument regarding the existence of conscience also holds credibility, for it cannot be denied that everyone has an innate sense of what is right or wrong, independent of religious beliefs. The all too familiar nagging sense of guilt is your soul recollecting that an act is wrong, although you have not explicitly been taught that it is so.  
The allegory presented by Plato describing the soul's descent into the body however weakens his rational argument in my opinion, for here he moves away from logical evidence and presents a mythical story, complete with gods from his Greek culture. He has a rational idea of the World of the Forms, where the Highest Good reigns, thus it appears contradictory to move to a story which is more aligned with Greek mythology, with gods travelling to the realm of the Forms.
Also Plato acknowledges that animals do not have the capability to reason, or recollect forgotten knowledge, only humans are recognised to have a soul and have this level of awareness. How can the soul therefore be expected to reincarnate within animals and continue with their journey to gain knowledge of the forms? Surely it would make more sense for the soul to be confined merely to the human being, thus having a chance to recollect past knowledge. Plato may recognise that there is a soul within every living thing, for he believed that the soul was the life force within living creatures and plants. However this primitive soul differs surely to the soul within a human, which has cognitive ability, and is connected to the World of the Forms. However on the whole Plato presents a strong argument for the soul's existence, one which naturally begins with no religious premise, being deduced on philosophical terms, which adds to its credibility.
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