The nature of survival

[0th0d0xypr0xy]

I've had a few talks with mgt23 on this issue, with the mass media openly discussing conflict with Iran - of which neither gentiles living within the Western world (i.e Europe and America) want it seems that the end game has indeed presented itself.

Supposing what seems to be the inevitable happens. Martial law is declared after the last of America's gun holders are stripped of their right to bear arms, the UK joins with the EU to form the truly magnaminous bloc of European nations. What then?

What i'm trying to get at is the nature not only of survival but of active resistance. What can and must be done not only to save those of the white race (CSR - that is for you) but gentiles the world over. Are our actions going to be marked by violence, savagery and brutality so often seen throughout history. Or is resistance more spiritual in nature?

Forgive me, I do not know enough of Christianity and the Atlantean myth to comment with knowledge on the world's religions, but put bluntly; should our resisitance and survival be through peace or war?

[Michael K.]

I think that one has to consider the needs of the whole person.  Man does not live by bread alone, but he doesn't live without some, too.  In the order of importance, spiritual survival is first because it transcends the flesh and is eternal in nature.  But there must be some space on earth for the spiritual survivor to exist, as well.  This is why Anarchy is not a functional solution to the survival needs of a large group.  Rather, with individual freedom under the God's Law as a premise, there must be organization, councils and some hierarchy to coordinate man's efforts to maintain his free space.  

A "truly magnanimous" EU, which incorporates both the UK and the CIS/Russia, is the Kingdom of the Kike Anti-Christ, IMO.  And it will attack with utmost savagery the enemies of its survival, which is paradoxically White survival, but also Kike victory.  The current game is about getting Whites away from Jesus Christ and getting them to cling to "Western Civilization" or some other expression of mystical Kike racialism and/or scientific atheism.  This is the path of the NWO.

Be more spiritually holy if you possibly can, and don't be ashamed to fight for your freedom to do what is good.  If you put materialism first, I'm sure that you can see what a dark road war will take you down.

[Timothy_Fitzpatrick]

Good points, MK.

I think that non-spirtual people gravitate towards racialist constructs like white nationalism while the spiritually minded gravitate towards theological constructs like Christianity. They see white nationalism as enslaving and spirituality as liberating. And this is the dichotomy within the anti-Judaic movement: racial anti-Semitism vs. theological anti-Judaism. Both despise the Jew, but both go about dealing with the Jew in very different ways. And I fully agree that white nationalism is no different than Jewish ethnocentrism. Evil cannot overcome evil. It is doomed to failure.

[GordZilla]

Timmy, what is your apparent grudge against White Nationalism? You've been expressing it a lot lately and frankly your misguided opinion of it is more divisive than what White nationalism is in itself. If you speak to almost any White nationalist with honesty, and for but a short length of time, you will soon discover that the movement is not about suppression, or oppression ...this is a bogus fallacy put out there by our friends; the Jews -and you should know better. Is it cause you fall for their b.s. so completely that you believe every White Nationalist is akin to every -Hollywood- version of a Nazi? Are you kidding me?

 I can quickly illustrate to you where this fallacy comes apart, and I know people that have this same opinion as yours who often find no problem at all with any other racial nationalism. For example; I wager you have no problem with Japan for the Japanese or the Congo for the Congolese et cetera. And nor do I. But what is your problem when someone says 'Germany for Germans'? or 'England for the English'? What about those statements is different for you? White Nationalism is only that, the belief that traditional White nations should be for White people and AT THE SAME TIME every other nation being for its respective traditional peoples. It's not in conflict with them, nor does it wish to oppress them - again that's just Jewish propaganda shinning thru,  It's not -at all- the truth of the matter. Self determination is absolutely a natural phenomenon and it's usually supported full heartedly by all nations. Supporting and respecting a nation and its people's sovereignty is a hallmark of a respectable and honorable nation.  In fact, apart from White European nations what other nations do you see bending over backwards (albeit by the hand of the Jew) to accommodate other races? - The answer is none, absolutely none! Only traditionally White nations are targeted for mass immigrations and when they finally get the courage and the balls to protest this they are labeled as 'dirty white national supremacists ' by people with your opinion, and more vocally by Jews themselves. Your focus lately is upon getting the so called 'White Nationalists' out of this movement, your wish for them is the EXACT same one shared by the Jew, and that is for them to have no voice -no say in the matter. Well sorry Timmy but that's utter B.S. and no other Nation on earth would tolerate it, why must White nations?

 Frankly White nationalism is nothing more than what it states, a nation ( a nation - not the whole world) for Whites. And although I do not define myself as a 'White Nationalist', I see no problem in their ideology as I know it doesn't include oppression of others nor do I find fault in any other country's predominate race wanting and maintaining nationalism for themselves.  That is all it means Timmy, the oppression and 'hollywood nazi' -like world domination bits are a fallacy perpetuated, in part, by the; 'look what those evil Whites did to Jews in the holocaust' or slavery -both a product of Jewish hands and imaginations. And sure North America is pretty much anyone's county but if Germany, France, England, Holland or any other traditionally White nation stood up tomorrow and declared themselves to be White Nationalists I could only applaud such an action - cause the only ones it would hurt are the Jews (and perhaps your sensibilities). Just as Congo doing the same for the Congolese I'd  still have no problem with that, same with the Chinese ...et cetera.

 You want unity in this movement and so do I, and I respect you for that, but alienating White Nationalists because of how you perceive them is not going to help our cause, it only furthers theirs. Perhaps your vision of what 'White Nationalists' are is brought  to you by White racists, and if that's the case I can agree with you, but the two groupings are not one in the same. Maybe it's the world 'White' that makes the difference, let's try replacing it with others;

French Nationalism, German Nationalism, Japanese Nationalism, Ethiopian Nationalism, Iranian Nationalism, Black Nationalism, Arab Nationalism, Native American Nationalism.

 Yup, it's the word isn't it?, because I suspect you can find no fault with those other examples, if you can then , sorry to say, but it is you that's the oppressor, it is you who cannot or will not respect their individual nation's sovereignty.  I however believe they all have a right to self determination and  without the Jew's influence. Perhaps 'European Nationalism 'would be more to your liking, I don't know.  What I do know for sure is that it is only White nations that are under attack by mass (and often illegal) immigration to further weaken their respective sovereignty orchestrated by the Jew - only White nations!  And it's because of this fact that the flavor of 'Nationalism' you hear talked about the most is the' White' variety. If Japan were to suffer the same mass immigration policies that most of Europe has to deal with well by tomorrow morning 'Japanese Nationalism' would also be a buzz word in the lexicon of most media savvy people.

 It begs the question; Why is it that only White nations are the ones that are systematically targeted as victims for these agenda driven mass immigration policies? And furthermore why do you also, apparently, support that notion?

[youtube:3gx1tfv8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tFsgo7S8n4[/youtube]3gx1tfv8]

"Europe has not yet learned how to be multicultural" She says. I might ask;  as opposed to what country?...excluding the Americas (as they were born from and in multiculturalism) what other county? Has Japan? Has Israel? Has the Congo or South Africa?

Can you not see thru this Timmy? They are the ones pushing this false belief that 'White Nationalism' completely equates with 'White Supremacism' -but they simply do not- the two are mutually exclusive. The latter has very few members and most are considered racist and bigoted right off their first words - by their very nature and definition.  But 'White Nationalism' is only the wish for self determination within the traditionally White nation in question. I respect, and expect, that for all races;  to practice nationalism within their own nations - unimpeded by any outside influence. In fact I wish Jews did too. I wish they'd pick a deserted island somewhere and collectively all move there and start practicing it ....hell tomorrow would be too late. They should start right now!

One other note, the Jews are as much a race as an ideology. Ask one yourself.

fellist made a good point on this thread along these same lines;
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=17144&start=15

[Timothy_Fitzpatrick]

Gordzilla,

The Jews don't oppose white nationalism because there is some inherent truth in it; the Jews oppose white nationalism because it would displace their current ethnocentric hegemony. Do you see the difference?

I've seen the above video many times. I watch all of David Duke's videos, and I regularly read Kevin MacDonald's material. You act as if I don't know the inner workings of white nationalism. I was a nationalist, probably before you ever heard of the New World Order.

The intentions behind pursuing white nationalism are fine. I don't have a problem with that. But, white nationalism is anti-Christ, in that it seeks to establish Heaven on Earth (utopia) through WASP hegemony. Meanwhile, Christ taught us to seek Heaven within ourselves and in the next life. This world is not worth fighting for. Seeking Christ's Kingdom, saving souls, and charity are what  He commanded us to do. The current course of events will not be reversed. It is written. The Church Age, which lasted just over 1,000 years from the time of Christ, is over. This is the final test, my friend. Worry about your soul and your own standing with God before worrying about some rebellion against the Jewtocracy. I am not advocating submission. Fight when and where you can, but don't expect some glorious white revival that will bring peace on Earth, because it won't happen. True peace only comes through Christ, who already came to Earth to show us the way.

You want unity in this movement and so do I, and I respect you for that, but alienating White Nationalists because of how you perceive them is not going to help our cause

White nationalism alienates everyone. It doesn't work. There are too many stigmas attached to it. There is nothing wrong with seeking all things white at a local level, but as a movement, it just doesn't work. The system will not allow it. It will only end up in a repeat of NAZI Germany, which was corrupt to begin with and which was a complete failure in its results.

[CrackSmokeRepublican]

Here Tim, this is for you:

The Catholic View of Judaism
Joey McGoebbels
Jett and Jahn Media

http://jettandjahn.com/books/CatholicViewPDF.pdf

[Michael K.]

RE: Catholic View PDF:

The Catholic Church's ability to protect European culture was increasingly weakened
following the Protestant Reformation.

Here the author makes two fundamental assumptions which are not supported anywhere in the document:

1.)  That before the Church entered the picture, there was something called "European culture" and that it was good; and,

2.)  The Catholic Church's merit and mission are judged by its protection of the pre-existent "European culture".

If by "European culture" the author means Roman Culture, then I don't have to go far to prove that Roman culture was not good, but sick and immoral at the time the Catholic Church challenged its validity.

If by "European culture" the author means Germanic/Celtic culture, then I don't have to go far to prove that Germanic/Celtic culture was not good either, but superstitious and immoral at the time the Catholic Church challenged its validity.

So my argument thus far is that the fundamental assumption made regarding the Catholic Church protecting "European culture" is flawed, because it can not be assumed that the mission of the Catholic Church was ever to protect said culture.  In fact, Christianity is hostile to many pagan customs common throughout Europe, such as; child molesting, homosexuality, sacrifice to trees and pools, witchcraft and many more.

This is where it gets ridiculous in the extreme, with some so-called White Nationalists claiming that the essence of "European culture" is faggotry (i.e. Greg Johnson/Counter-currents).


Re: White Nationalism

http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/top ... ationalism

nationalism, ideology based on the premise that the individual's loyalty and devotion to the nation-state surpass other individual or group interests.

Nationalism is a modern movement. Throughout history people have been attached to their native soil, to the traditions of their parents, and to established territorial authorities; but it was not until the end of the 18th century that nationalism began to be a generally recognized sentiment molding public and private life and one of the great, if not the greatest, single determining factors of modern history. Because of its dynamic vitality and its all-pervading character, nationalism is often thought to be very old; sometimes it is mistakenly regarded as a permanent factor in political behaviour. Actually, the American and French revolutions may be regarded as its first powerful manifestations. After penetrating the new countries of Latin America it spread in the early 19th century to central Europe and from there, toward the middle of the century, to eastern and southeastern Europe. At the beginning of the 20th century nationalism flowered in the ancient lands of Asia and Africa. Thus the 19th century has been called the age of nationalism in Europe, while the 20th century has witnessed the rise and struggle of powerful national movements throughout Asia and Africa.

Identification of state and people

Nationalism, translated into world politics, implies the identification of the state or nation with the people—or at least the desirability of determining the extent of the state according to ethnographic principles. In the age of nationalism, but only in the age of nationalism, the principle was generally recognized that each nationality should form a state—its state—and that the state should include all members of that nationality. Formerly states, or territories under one administration, were not delineated by nationality. Men did not give their loyalty to the nation-state but to other, different forms of political organization: the city-state, the feudal fief and its lord, the dynastic state, the religious group, or the sect. The nation-state was nonexistent during the greater part of history, and for a very long time it was not even regarded as an ideal. In the first 15 centuries of the Christian Era, the ideal was the universal world-state, not loyalty to any separate political entity. The Roman Empire had set the great example, which survived not only in the Holy Roman Empire of the Middle Ages but also in the concept of the res publica christiana ("Christian republic" or community) and in its later secularized form of a united world civilization.

The actual theory of nationalism is that ethnic peoples should form states, and that the fundamental identification of the ethnic group should be with the state. It is actually a radical argument for statism, socialism and war over ethno-territory.  It is also the philsophical basis for the validity of the "State of Israel" holding territory in Palestine for "Jews", and in many ways the emergence of political nationalism parallels the emergence of political Zionist thought.


"White":


According to scholarship on the subject, and example of which is that of Alastair Bonnett, University of Newcastle in  White Identities: An Historical & International Introduction, Copyright: 2000, the term "White" entered common use in the European languages in the late 17th century, as a social distinction between free people and the subjects of the Kike slave trade.


Conclusion:  "White Nationalism" is a deceptive, materialist, modern philosophical construct which can be confused with either patriotism or loyalty to one's people, if one is white-skinned.  It leads to the most outrageous conclusions in some of its adherents, and it opposes Christian civilization on a territorial basis.

[GordZilla]

I understand your points Timmy, and frankly they are wise. Which is one of the reasons I don't fully identify myself as a White Nationalist. I too have been awake to the Jew for a long time, about half my life now (since about '92-93) and I have witnessed (as with you I'm sure) much of the infighting. When 9/11 happened I was hoping to see this infighting come to an end. I was hopping people would finally see the common enemy we ALL have, but alas - thanks to the likes of Alex Jones and other pied pipers, this did not come to be. That is why I will often rally against such ideas that propose that you are 'either with us or with them', it's simply too divisive. To me, being Jew wise is enough to make me your ally in this fight, but there is one caveat to that; they must be JEW WISE, not half wise but wise to the real nature of this beast. That's why I can't find too much fault with most White nationalists because most are ready and willing to fight this Jew monster. That to me is all I need to hear. Couple that with the facts that most are not supremacists, many have a spiritual side as well, many consider themselves Christians ... well add that all up and you perhaps can see why I get defensive about the idea that our camp is split down two sides. I personally do not think it is, it's up to our individual acceptance and tolerance of the other. If we choose to tolerate another who is Jew wise but maybe not faithful, or maybe identifies as a White nationalist, or maybe an 'over the top' Christian or Muslim -to me I will still try to make inroads rather than simply slamming the door shut. Cause bottom line is we are all brothers in this fight and we still need more numbers.

 As I said before Timmy I respect you, I just think you should maybe tone down the visceral reaction you get when someone might defend their own point of view on ideologies you might not concur with. I still maintain White Nationalists are not helping our enemy, and most are Jew wise, of course not all. Yes some are flat out racists and those I could never get behind. And that's not because, when generalizing, we can identify some perceived faults with certain races but rather because of this one inherent truth of the matter, that being; no one chooses who they are born as. For me that truth means I must always yield the benefit of the doubt and everyone I meet I categorize them into one of  3 camps; A good person, an asshole or a Jew  -the last one I don't even consider human (which is why I always italicize their personal pronouns) An asshole can change, a Jew rarely (if ever) does ...Frankly I can only think of 2 good Jews off hand; David Cole and Bobby Fischer. Even the everyday Jews we run into in our day to day lives will seem fine but when pressed they will instinctively side with the Jewish cause over any -and all-  gentile ones. Little off topic but I'm just explaining why there are 3 categories of human classification used in my life :-)

 Bottom line; we need to try to find common ground, not widen the gap.

 

[Timothy_Fitzpatrick]

I understand your points Timmy, and frankly they are wise. Which is one of the reasons I don't fully identify myself as a White Nationalist. I too have been awake to the Jew for a long time, about half my life now (since about '92-93) and I have witnessed (as with you I'm sure) much of the infighting.

I stand corrected. You have been awake longer than me.  

When 9/11 happened I was hoping to see this infighting come to an end. I was hopping people would finally see the common enemy we ALL have, but alas - thanks to the likes of Alex Jones and other pied pipers, this did not come to be. That is why I will often rally against such ideas that propose that you are 'either with us or with them', it's simply too divisive. To me, being Jew wise is enough to make me your ally in this fight, but there is one caveat to that; they must be JEW WISE, not half wise but wise to the real nature of this beast.

Daily, I struggle with the prioritizing of my yearning for Christ and my fight against the Jewtocracy. It takes wisdom to put things in their place, and I am just beginning to do that.

That's why I can't find too much fault with most White nationalists because most are ready and willing to fight this Jew monster. That to me is all I need to hear. Couple that with the facts that most are not supremacists, many have a spiritual side as well, many consider themselves Christians ... well add that all up and you perhaps can see why I get defensive about the idea that our camp is split down two sides. I personally do not think it is, it's up to our individual acceptance and tolerance of the other. If we choose to tolerate another who is Jew wise but maybe not faithful, or maybe identifies as a White nationalist, or maybe an 'over the top' Christian or Muslim -to me I will still try to make inroads rather than simply slamming the door shut. Cause bottom line is we are all brothers in this fight and we still need more numbers.

I guess you have to ask yourself, what is more important, waking people up to the Jewish conspiracy, or living like Christ? For me, I think I have convinced myself that by showing people the truth about the world conspiracy (which is anti-Christ), I can somehow show them Christ. Maybe I am deluded, maybe not, but I find myself putting things in perspective more. I am realizing that one needs balance. It can't always be about the movement, and cultural reform takes place firstly on a person-to-person level. Men must change before Kingdoms can. If men won't change, then what is the point in winning some war?

As I said before Timmy I respect you, I just think you should maybe tone down the visceral reaction you get when someone might defend their own point of view on ideologies you might not concur with. I still maintain White Nationalists are not helping our enemy, and most are Jew wise, of course not all. Yes some are flat out racists and those I could never get behind. And that's not because, when generalizing, we can identify some perceived faults with certain races but rather because of this one inherent truth of the matter, that being; no one chooses who they are born as. For me that truth means I must always yield the benefit of the doubt and everyone I meet I categorize them into one of  3 camps; A good person, an asshole or a Jew  -the last one I don't even consider human (which is why I always italicize their personal pronouns) An asshole can change, a Jew rarely (if ever) does ...Frankly I can only think of 2 good Jews off hand; David Cole and Bobby Fischer. Even the everyday Jews we run into in our day to day lives will seem fine but when pressed they will instinctively side with the Jewish cause over any -and all-  gentile ones. Little off topic but I'm just explaining why there are 3 categories of human classification used in my life :-)

All I can say is that there can be no harmony between racial anti-Semitism and theological anti-Judaism. One is based in the self while the other is based in truth (Logos). For a Christian like yourself, you should have a problem with the white nationalists' reliance on Darwinian evolutionary biology. There is truth in evolutionary biology, but where the Darwinian white nationalist fails is in his lack of comprehension of the spiritual world. A Christian should always think bigger than a white nationalist, because a Christian believes in a much larger world. The white nationalist, like the Jew, is restricted to that which is material and temporal. How are we doing Christ's work if we witness the truth to a Jew and his victims but ignore witnessing to the white nationalist? We chastise the Jew for his error but say nothing to the nationalist...this is irrational. We cannot refrain from risking offending a white national, just as we wouldn't think twice about offending a Jew with the truth. They both suffer from the same falsehood.

In the early days of my awakening, I found myself allying with Muslims. Then it was the white nationalists. But now, I have realized that these were just bumps along the path of life. It's Christ or nothing. I don't ally myself with anyone anymore other than Christ and His body of believers—at least I try to uphold this maxim. As a sinner, I screw up from time to time, like anyone else. It's fine to associate with them, but be sure of where you stand in Christ, because that is your true identity. I guess you could say, that after my awakening, what I was really seeking was an identity. I looked here and there but did not find satisfaction until I realized that only Christ can give you that identity, not some movement. As Christians, our allegiance is to Christ first, not to democracy, or whatever you want to call it. Christians know that the only true defence against Jews and their anti-Logos temporal kingdom is Christ. This a war between Christ and the Jews (led by Satan). Frankly speaking, white nationalists and Muslims figure nowhere into this equation. They are scenery.

[0th0d0xypr0xy]

I think that one has to consider the needs of the whole person.  Man does not live by bread alone, but he doesn't live without some, too.  In the order of importance, spiritual survival is first because it transcends the flesh and is eternal in nature.  But there must be some space on earth for the spiritual survivor to exist, as well.  This is why Anarchy is not a functional solution to the survival needs of a large group.  Rather, with individual freedom under the God's Law as a premise, there must be organization, councils and some hierarchy to coordinate man's efforts to maintain his free space.  

A "truly magnanimous" EU, which incorporates both the UK and the CIS/Russia, is the Kingdom of the Kike Anti-Christ, IMO.  And it will attack with utmost savagery the enemies of its survival, which is paradoxically White survival, but also Kike victory.  The current game is about getting Whites away from Jesus Christ and getting them to cling to "Western Civilization" or some other expression of mystical Kike racialism and/or scientific atheism.  This is the path of the NWO.

Be more spiritually holy if you possibly can, and don't be ashamed to fight for your freedom to do what is good.  If you put materialism first, I'm sure that you can see what a dark road war will take you down.

Interesting man, it does certainly bring interesting questions regarding what element of 'survivalism' one should journey down and try and bring about within one's own life.
I can see why the virtue of spirituality is of such high importance, and appreciate the break-down difference of National-Socialist anti-semitism (semites apparently numbering more then 14 tribes - of which, ironically the Palestinians more then likely feature) and theological anti-Judaism. I came across William Pierce and his YouTube segments uploaded which detailed among other topics Haiti, Jews and what his followers envisage a 'Racial Holy War' in which white women are strung up for sleeping with black men and the events penned within The Turner Diaries are openly discussed.

As mgt23 said though, William Pierce and others like him react like an angry woman upset and angry with rodents in her house and blaming the rodent and not the person opening the door and letting them in. This is what I felt to be the crucial difference between TiU and Stormfront, with White Nationalists/Supremacists seeking to rally themselves based upon the materialistic observation of similarity and placing that above the quest for truth - namely the Judaic conspiracy linking the beginnings and the end of time together. It is for this reason I do not place materialism first and have undergone attempts to seek out greater spiritual/religious understanding - I am cautious however to simply examine Christianity as does it not share the same Judaic origins as the Torah? Essentially maintaining belief in the Jew God YHWEH but with an added component of Jesus. I've been recommended several times to read into Celtic Christianity but feel it is both safer, sensibler and somewhat securer to label oneself 'independent' as one explores these puzzling concepts first before coming to a definitive conclusion.


I also wanted to show you guys Alan Watts, someone I liked to listen to before I met mgt23 who told me he was more then likely a shill with an agenda:

[youtube:1oj2pnxh]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WluMvUJ12Nw[/youtube]1oj2pnxh]

[youtube:1oj2pnxh]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHLIDLk0GO0[/youtube]1oj2pnxh]

Thanks for all your responses so far!  :mrgreen:

[Michael K.]

I am cautious however to simply examine Christianity as does it not share the same Judaic origins as the Torah? Essentially maintaining belief in the Jew God YHWEH but with an added component of Jesus

Yes, use supreme caution when approaching Christianity: there are many counterfeits (heresies) and many lies spread about the subject.  Orthodox Christianity is a repository of truth, it is the unbroken tradition of the Apostles, yet many who claim to be OC are not.

The Jews are liars, and when they say "Torah" they mean the Talmud, the Zohar and the Kabbalah, not the literal Old Testament.  The Jews hated and killed Jesus Christ, is that not a matter of fact?  The Jews are the rebels against the Old Testament, substituting their twisted interpretations for the simple truth.  

What the Jews believe has its origins in the same place and time as the Old Testament, but from the opposite point of view.  They are the "sons of the devil". Will you let their lies blind you to what the OT really means?

[0th0d0xypr0xy]

I know I'm resurrecting a dead thread, however I feel that what this thread should encapsulate is important enough to warrant its resurrection.

I confess, I'm very much a new player in the field of conspiracy having been introduced to it largely by a friend whose experience far outweighs my own. I am however keen to contribute and would welcome both constructive comment and criticism by the members of this forum.

Having read the comments made on this thread, I was left feeling that the subject of discussion drifted and instead focused upon existing differences of approach between members of the forum.

What I wanted to tackle here has been the subject of conversations I've had between friends throughout my life. Namely, the nature of resistance, struggle and any foreseeable objective of attaining victory. For instance, whilst I appreciate Timothy and Marlowe's points that the evil to which we assert ourselves against is one spiritual in nature, I feel it insufficient to rely exclusively upon one's devotion towards God/Christ/the creator.

My intention as a student was to write a comprehensive book on Power and assess, analyse and examine the role in which capital, currency and land title have been the fundamental tools by which a tripartite system of power develops. Please note, this is still very much in its infancy - and I am aware an author by the name of David Priestland has written a book exploring the same concepts. I am not discouraged however, as my aim is to seek a state of symbiosis within my environment through which my actions are neither parasitic nor predatorial.

I've been learning survival skills, listening to tekno and asking advice from the homeless in Bodmin about how they survive. Through this I hope to develop greater self-confidence and adapt to changing circumstances previously deemed distant and alien to me.

Having dwelt upon the task in hand however, I'm slightly disheartened by the direction in which survival and victory shall be ascertained. Please forgive my ramblings, I simply wanted this thread to serve as a thrust to what our actions should be focused towards, and an assessment of the necessary steps to take us there.


'Most men lead lives of quiet desperation and go to the grave with the song still in them' — Henry David Thoreau